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Steve Tasker said:
I could see how people would see it that way, to be honest.  Canelo threw with more power.  I don't think his punches landed as well as the crowd did, and GGG countered effectively, but I could see how people looking for the big punch would've given a few more rounds to Canelo.  He fights a very viewer-friendly style.  Sits on the ropes and picks his spots while GGG picks him apart punch-by-punch.
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Canelo's punches had zero effect on GGG though. He walked right through them all night long.  Didn't look to me like Alvarez has much power at this weith.  Whereas GGG clearly made Canelo stop in his tracks a few times.  GGG completely commanded the ring after the 3rd round. 

 
Adelaide Byrd should never score a title fight again. She should never score a fight again, period. I wouldn't hire her to work a mop at an adult theater. 

 
Prince Myshkin said:
Canelo's punches had zero effect on GGG though. He walked right through them all night long.  Didn't look to me like Alvarez has much power at this weith.  Whereas GGG clearly made Canelo stop in his tracks a few times.  GGG completely commanded the ring after the 3rd round. 
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I agree with you.  I scored it 116-112 GGG and it wasn't really close.  Gave 2, 3, 12, and one of the mid-rounds to Canelo.  Otherwise GGG owned the ring.

 
Anyone have the final CompuBox numbers? I was watching a British feed from round 4 on and they have no unofficial scorer, no punch stats.

 
With how much is on the line economically, I think judges should face criminal charges when they're that ridiculous. They should have to go to court and defend the score card. If they can't, they should go to jail unless they pay restitution to everyone they screwed.

 
Chaos Commish said:
With how much is on the line economically, I think judges should face criminal charges when they're that ridiculous. They should have to go to court and defend the score card. If they can't, they should go to jail unless they pay restitution to everyone they screwed.
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boxing scoring is on par with figure skating.  No idea why boxing keeps shooting themselves in the foot.  the 118-110 judge could have at least made it reasonable and still had Canelo winning.

 
I realize that wimmens scorecard was ridiculous, and IMO GGG won the fight by a close enough margin where it shouldnt be a draw, but yinz that are #####ing about the scorecard, #### being fixed, etc can go. 

I think GGG won that fight but ill be damned if i wasnt hoping for a rematch. Some of you should high five that judge lol

 
Chaos Commish said:
With how much is on the line economically, I think judges should face criminal charges when they're that ridiculous. They should have to go to court and defend the score card. If they can't, they should go to jail unless they pay restitution to everyone they screwed.
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I understand but in the end, the voting is subjective. No way to make it a criminal charge.

 
Women in general do not understand sports at a high level. They are more interested in which guy they like more.

 
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ILUVBEER99 said:
boxing scoring is on par with figure skating.  No idea why boxing keeps shooting themselves in the foot.  the 118-110 judge could have at least made it reasonable and still had Canelo winning.
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That's a very good point. As I stated earlier--I'm not boxing expert--but I thought that GGG was the better fighter for most of the fight. However--Canelo did finish strong and did land a lot of power punches.  I don't think it would have been super egregious if a judge had Canelo winning by a couple points--which still would have ended in a draw--I just don't know how anybody could have watched that fight and had Canelo winning 118-110.  I personally enjoyed the fight enough to be suckered into buying a rematch. 

 
A rematch was practically guaranteed from the beginning unless someone got destroyed in a lackluster fight. The 118-110 was incompetent or dirty but likely both.

 
jvdesigns2002 said:
That's a very good point. As I stated earlier--I'm not boxing expert--but I thought that GGG was the better fighter for most of the fight. However--Canelo did finish strong and did land a lot of power punches.  I don't think it would have been super egregious if a judge had Canelo winning by a couple points--which still would have ended in a draw--I just don't know how anybody could have watched that fight and had Canelo winning 118-110.  I personally enjoyed the fight enough to be suckered into buying a rematch. 
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yes, great fight and overall i can't complain about it ending in a draw.  That one judge just gave no f's about being obvious.  

Looking forward to the re-match.

 
Kenny Powers said:
I realize that wimmens scorecard was ridiculous, and IMO GGG won the fight by a close enough margin where it shouldnt be a draw, but yinz that are #####ing about the scorecard, #### being fixed, etc can go. 

I think GGG won that fight but ill be damned if i wasnt hoping for a rematch. Some of you should high five that judge lol
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Alvarez had a rematch clause in the contract...there would be a rematch even if they had scored the fight correctly. 

 
I was just coming in here to look for a link :lol:  

How was the fight? Besides the decision I'm hearing about. 

Dude on my local radio called this. He said if it goes the distance Canelo will win. Said one guy always scores for the house. His words. Guess he meant favorite. Then he said the lady judge always has kooky scorecards and expect something weird from her. 

 
SacramentoBob said:
Much less controversial scoring than Canelo getting a 114-114 on one scorecard vs Mayweather.
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I was venting/joking about the criminal charges thing, guys, but appreciate the replies. As to the quote, I was pretty miffed at that too, but it didn't change the outcome. Earlier today I mentioned liking Golovkin a good bit more than Alvarez. There's no real reason to dislike Canelo other than the judges seem to be slanted his way. "He's cute. He must have won that round."

 
So I had a bunch of drinks, etc. Several people ended up my house to watch the fight. Opinions were very mixed. I thought Canelo did well but was too small. GGG had the size to wear Canelo down.  As for rounds, I didn't keep score but people here have it scored every which way.  

 
Ilov80s said:
So I had a bunch of drinks, etc. Several people ended up my house to watch the fight. Opinions were very mixed. I thought Canelo did well but was too small. GGG had the size to wear Canelo down.  As for rounds, I didn't keep score but people here have it scored every which way.  
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yep.  i don't think anyone is livid about the draw, both of them came to fight and it was competitive.  The main post fight problem is the moronic judge who scored it 118-110.

I had GGG 8-4 or 7-5, but a lot of rounds were close...but there were at least 4 rounds where GGG 100% won, so the 118-110 score just makes boxing look really bad.  Shows at least one judge was trying to fix it.

 
ILUVBEER99 said:
yep.  i don't think anyone is livid about the draw, both of them came to fight and it was competitive.  The main post fight problem is the moronic judge who scored it 118-110.

I had GGG 8-4 or 7-5, but a lot of rounds were close...but there were at least 4 rounds where GGG 100% won, so the 118-110 score just makes boxing look really bad.  Shows at least one judge was trying to fix it.
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I agree that I don't see it 118-110 but remember a fight could be very close and still be  scored 118-110. 

 
Ilov80s said:
I agree that I don't see it 118-110 but remember a fight could be very close and still be  scored 118-110. 
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sorry, there is zero justification for Canelo winning 118-110 in this fight.  In certain fights where rounds are super close i could see it, but not in this one.  Nobody with a brain could have given Canelo 10 rounds.

i had no issue with the 115-113 Canelo score.  didn't agree with it but can justify it.  The 118-110 judge shouldn't be scoring fights.  GGG won at least 4 rounds clearly.

 
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