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**Official** "The Office" Thread (2 Viewers)

I was being sarcastic. Erin and New Jim isn't an interesting storyline. It's boring because it's been done before and done much, much, much, much, much, much, much better. I can see them trying some things with Jim and Pam but it really is limping to the finish line.ETA - also remember the episode when Michael came back from vacation with Jan? He started by playing music and was totally into the island vibe. At the end he was depressed and the music had no good feeling for him anymore.Nice to see they didn't attempt to duplicate that almost exactly with Andy's return.

 
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GB Parks and Rec. Everything else is gone or destroyed now.
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:goodposting: Community, Parks and Rec and The Office was once a powerhouse 90-minute lineup. Only 30 minutes of it is really still firing on all cylinders now.
 
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'packersfan said:
'Skipdog77 said:
'Good said:
GB Parks and Rec. Everything else is gone or destroyed now.
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Ron, Chris, and Ben all rolling around the floor with food poisoning had me cracking up...
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Andy getting fired up at the thought of April wearing a blonde wig was great too.
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:goodposting:April is pretty smoking. Also, loved Swanson's "I believe you've made a mistake; you've given me the food my food eats" line when they gave him a salad.Re: the Office, it's at least decent to watch, but it's basically stopped being a comedy. It feels like the final 15 minutes of a rom-com, and we're just seeing the ending rather than watching a show that's supposed to be a comedy. But if you've watched for close to a decade, hard to turn off now.
 
'Chase Stuart said:
'packersfan said:
'Skipdog77 said:
'Good said:
GB Parks and Rec. Everything else is gone or destroyed now.
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Ron, Chris, and Ben all rolling around the floor with food poisoning had me cracking up...
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Andy getting fired up at the thought of April wearing a blonde wig was great too.
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:goodposting:April is pretty smoking. Also, loved Swanson's "I believe you've made a mistake; you've given me the food my food eats" line when they gave him a salad.
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Every character on the show is great in some fashion. I loved Jerry getting blown off by Andrew Luck couple episodes ago just like everyone on the show blows him off. And the part where he talked about meeting his wife and she was gorgeous with a perfect body and he says something along the lines of that because of that she was not his type. :lmao:
 
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It's interesting the direction that they've taken. Personally I've enjoyed this season more than the last couple. They've taken a lot of the comedy out simply because they've run out of ideas. You can see that the lifespan of the series has passed and the material dried up so they've gone back and re-hashed the same storylines with minor changes. Andy pretty much doing the 'Michael Scott Paper' bit and getting David Wallace back as the boss. The secretary leaving her boyfriend for a Jim-clone. Plus many other things.They are using the Pam-Jim relationship to bring the series a little dose of reality. Pam started off as this surprisingly attractive secretary who dressed down at work and was in a dead end relationship. Then comes Jim and after the whole back and forth, they get together. Pam starts dressing more attractively and her and Jim become this perfect couple. She pops out a couple kids and it's back to being plain looking Pam. Meanwhile Jim realizes that he's not going anywhere with this job and finally does something about it while leaving Pam behind. It's a realistic arch in a couple's life that many can relate to. Is it good comedy? Not at all. But it's better than what they've been doing the last couple of years.A good question is where the show jumped the shark. Maybe when they decided to keep doing the show after Michael left or when they picked a Michael clone to be the new boss. Either way that's when the show took a nosedive. The last couple seasons with Michael weren't the best but the show was still one of the top network comedies.

 
'Hinezer said:
A good question is where the show jumped the shark.
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When they decided to carry on without Carell. He was at the foundation of the show. Moving forward without him was idiotic. But as is so often the case, greed won out over intelligence. There was no way NBC was going to lose "The Office" even if the foundation was gone. So they bled it dry until the show was dead and often times was a limp characterture of its former self. FOX did the same thing years ago with "The X-Files" after losing David Duchovny. I think if you polled everyone connected with "The Office" and asked them to answer honestly they'd all agree the show should've ended when Carell left. There was very little chance the show would be better without him and a large chance the show would go in the toilet. It may not have been flushed down the drain completely (at times there's still a spark), but it clearly isn't anywhere near the show it once was.
 
'packersfan said:
'Hinezer said:
A good question is where the show jumped the shark.
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When they decided to carry on without Carell. He was at the foundation of the show. Moving forward without him was idiotic. But as is so often the case, greed won out over intelligence. There was no way NBC was going to lose "The Office" even if the foundation was gone. So they bled it dry until the show was dead and often times was a limp characterture of its former self. FOX did the same thing years ago with "The X-Files" after losing David Duchovny. I think if you polled everyone connected with "The Office" and asked them to answer honestly they'd all agree the show should've ended when Carell left. There was very little chance the show would be better without him and a large chance the show would go in the toilet. It may not have been flushed down the drain completely (at times there's still a spark), but it clearly isn't anywhere near the show it once was.
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I think the show could've survived without Carrell. It was dying during Carrell's final years. But if they had replaced him with someone totally different, it would've revitalized the show. I always point to MASH was a prime example. Col. Potter was different than Col. Blake. Winchester was different than Burns. BJ was different than Trapper. Klinger was different than Radar. The office, they replaced Michael Scott with Michael Scott Lite.
 
'Rayderr said:
'packersfan said:
'Hinezer said:
A good question is where the show jumped the shark.
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When they decided to carry on without Carell. He was at the foundation of the show. Moving forward without him was idiotic. But as is so often the case, greed won out over intelligence. There was no way NBC was going to lose "The Office" even if the foundation was gone. So they bled it dry until the show was dead and often times was a limp characterture of its former self. FOX did the same thing years ago with "The X-Files" after losing David Duchovny. I think if you polled everyone connected with "The Office" and asked them to answer honestly they'd all agree the show should've ended when Carell left. There was very little chance the show would be better without him and a large chance the show would go in the toilet. It may not have been flushed down the drain completely (at times there's still a spark), but it clearly isn't anywhere near the show it once was.
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I think the show could've survived without Carrell. It was dying during Carrell's final years. But if they had replaced him with someone totally different, it would've revitalized the show. I always point to MASH was a prime example. Col. Potter was different than Col. Blake. Winchester was different than Burns. BJ was different than Trapper. Klinger was different than Radar. The office, they replaced Michael Scott with Michael Scott Lite.
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I disagree with the MASH analogy. Carell/Michael Scott was the Alan Alda of "The Office" in that scenario. Alda never left MASH. He remained at the show's center. I agree the show was losing steam in Carell's final couple of seasons but it still had moments of greatness and was far closer to what it always was than what it's been without him. I think there was a chance (albeit a very small one) the show could've worked without him. But the odds were it wasn't going to be anywhere near as good and it hasn't been. This wasn't a difficult outcome to see coming. It's what should have been expected. The fact the writers are re-hashing old storylines shows how out of gas the show really is.
 
'packersfan said:
I was being sarcastic. Erin and New Jim isn't an interesting storyline. It's boring because it's been done before and done much, much, much, much, much, much, much better. I can see them trying some things with Jim and Pam but it really is limping to the finish line.

ETA - also remember the episode when Michael came back from vacation with Jan? He started by playing music and was totally into the island vibe. At the end he was depressed and the music had no good feeling for him anymore.

Nice to see they didn't attempt to duplicate that almost exactly with Andy's return.
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I knew you were. Just reiterating the same thought that I felt several months back.
 
'packersfan said:
'Hinezer said:
A good question is where the show jumped the shark.
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When they decided to carry on without Carell. He was at the foundation of the show. Moving forward without him was idiotic. But as is so often the case, greed won out over intelligence. There was no way NBC was going to lose "The Office" even if the foundation was gone. So they bled it dry until the show was dead and often times was a limp characterture of its former self. FOX did the same thing years ago with "The X-Files" after losing David Duchovny. I think if you polled everyone connected with "The Office" and asked them to answer honestly they'd all agree the show should've ended when Carell left. There was very little chance the show would be better without him and a large chance the show would go in the toilet. It may not have been flushed down the drain completely (at times there's still a spark), but it clearly isn't anywhere near the show it once was.
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:goodposting: They definitely should have ended it when Carell left. As awesome as the large supporting cast is, them going on without him is like if Cheers would have tried to go on without Ted Danson. Just not a good idea.
 
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I just caught up on the last 4 episodes at work. I held in two chuckles. Why do I feel an obligation to see this to the end? Andy comes back as the biggest ### with no explanation? Writers better be embarrassed about what they have been airing.

 
'Plaid Boxer said:
I just caught up on the last 4 episodes at work. I held in two chuckles. Why do I feel an obligation to see this to the end? Andy comes back as the biggest ### with no explanation? Writers better be embarrassed about what they have been airing.
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This is my issue. He goes from breakin up with a gf and driving to FL to be with Erin to completely dismissing her and not thinking about her at all. So weird.
 
'iamsmilin said:
'Plaid Boxer said:
I just caught up on the last 4 episodes at work. I held in two chuckles. Why do I feel an obligation to see this to the end? Andy comes back as the biggest ### with no explanation? Writers better be embarrassed about what they have been airing.
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This is my issue. He goes from breakin up with a gf and driving to FL to be with Erin to completely dismissing her and not thinking about her at all. So weird.
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:yes:Their arc makes no sense. When Andy was courting Erin, his affection was genuine and deep. But we're to believe that suddenly this all stopped? After those awful months with Angela, Andy would have bent over backwards for a nice girl like Erin. The writers blew this one just for another dumb plot device.
 
After last night's episode, I just want this to end. Dwight needing Angela's help to hose down his filthy aunt? Is that really the best the writers can now come up with? The Michael Scott-like guy Pam interviewed with was slightly entertaining, but came off as a bit too contrived.Just bizarre overall.

 
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The problem is, the show just isn't funny anymore. Okay, humor is subjective, so it's possible that people out there are laughing, but while this was never a show that had you in stitches from start to finish (vs. a traditional comedy like Seinfeld), you could usually count on at least several hard laughs per episodes and a lot of chuckles. Now, barely anything makes me even chuckle anymore on the show. Even Stanley's one-liner last night about horny people barely got a chuckle out of me. Like I said before, I am only watching now to see how they resolve the show and what they do with the characters.

 
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'Ghost Rider said:
After last night's episode, I just want this to end.

Dwight needing Angela's help to hose down his filthy aunt? Is that really the best the writers can now come up with?

The Michael Scott-like guy Pam interviewed with was slightly entertaining, but came off as a bit too contrived.

Just bizarre overall.
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Better call Saul.
 
'Ghost Rider said:
The problem is, the show just isn't funny anymore. Okay, humor is subjective, so it's possible that people out there are laughing, but while this was never a show that had you in stitches from start to finish (vs. a traditional comedy like Seinfeld), you could usually count on at least several hard laughs per episodes and a lot of chuckles. Now, barely anything makes me even chuckle anymore on the show. Even Stanley's one-liner last night about horny people barely got a chuckle out of me. Like I said before, I am only watching now to see how they resolve the show and what they do with the characters.
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I started watching the new episode last night on DVR around 10, stopped after 10 minutes to watch the Carnival cruise ship coverage. I care 0% about anyone on the show anymore. Send them off a cliff on a bus for all I care, just put it out of its misery already.
 
'Ghost Rider said:
The problem is, the show just isn't funny anymore. Okay, humor is subjective, so it's possible that people out there are laughing, but while this was never a show that had you in stitches from start to finish (vs. a traditional comedy like Seinfeld), you could usually count on at least several hard laughs per episodes and a lot of chuckles. Now, barely anything makes me even chuckle anymore on the show. Even Stanley's one-liner last night about horny people barely got a chuckle out of me. Like I said before, I am only watching now to see how they resolve the show and what they do with the characters.
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:goodposting:Amen.
 
I enjoy the show now for what it is which is a romantic comedy skewing more towards the stories than the comedy. It was always a romantic comedy but was usually more about the comedy.

 
'Sarnoff said:
At least the Strangler storyline from the last 3 years was wrapped up in 30 seconds.
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I was barely paying attention, but other than Toby telling Nellie that he was going to visit the strangler, what was that all about? Who is the strangler?
 
I'll be really disappointed if Michael doesn't at least make a cameo in the finale. He made this one of the best sitcoms ever. It would be a borderline affront to the viewer if he wasn't included in some way. Carell seems like a good guy, so I can't imagine he wouldn't be cooperative if the script was right.

 
'Jaysus said:
'Sarnoff said:
At least the Strangler storyline from the last 3 years was wrapped up in 30 seconds.
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I was barely paying attention, but other than Toby telling Nellie that he was going to visit the strangler, what was that all about? Who is the strangler?
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The next scene, Toby is outside the prison, saying he's going to look the Strangler in the eye, tell him he thinks he may be innocent, and hopes a new (Toby's "first") friendship is born. Smash cut to Toby being brought out on a stretcher to an ambulance, having nearly been choked to death by the stranger. "Well, at least I know he really did it."/storyline
 
'McGarnicle said:
I'll be really disappointed if Michael doesn't at least make a cameo in the finale. He made this one of the best sitcoms ever. It would be a borderline affront to the viewer if he wasn't included in some way. Carell seems like a good guy, so I can't imagine he wouldn't be cooperative if the script was right.
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He's been quoted as saying he's not coming back for the finale. :sadbanana:
 
'FDAS said:
'McGarnicle said:
I'll be really disappointed if Michael doesn't at least make a cameo in the finale. He made this one of the best sitcoms ever. It would be a borderline affront to the viewer if he wasn't included in some way. Carell seems like a good guy, so I can't imagine he wouldn't be cooperative if the script was right.
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He's been quoted as saying he's not coming back for the finale. :sadbanana:
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Could just be saying that so as not to spoil the surprise. I think he'll be back.
 
'FDAS said:
'McGarnicle said:
I'll be really disappointed if Michael doesn't at least make a cameo in the finale. He made this one of the best sitcoms ever. It would be a borderline affront to the viewer if he wasn't included in some way. Carell seems like a good guy, so I can't imagine he wouldn't be cooperative if the script was right.
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He's been quoted as saying he's not coming back for the finale. :sadbanana:
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That could be just to make it to where his appearance will be a surprise (to some). I think the fact that Michael Scott was even mentioned in last week's episode is a possible sign that he will make an appearance, as it seemed like they were going out of their way to avoid mentioning him since he left the show, almost like he never existed, which I thought was weird, but I guess they thought too many mentions of him would make viewers yearn for his return, or remind them of better days. ;)If the final episode focuses a lot on the documentary, I could see a brief clip of Michael and Holly watching it in their home in Colorado or something like that.
 
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'jamny said:
'FDAS said:
'McGarnicle said:
I'll be really disappointed if Michael doesn't at least make a cameo in the finale. He made this one of the best sitcoms ever. It would be a borderline affront to the viewer if he wasn't included in some way. Carell seems like a good guy, so I can't imagine he wouldn't be cooperative if the script was right.
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He's been quoted as saying he's not coming back for the finale. :sadbanana:
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Could just be saying that so as not to spoil the surprise. I think he'll be back.
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I tend to agree with this. I'll be surprised if there is not some level of Carell cameo in the finale.
 
'Sam Quentin said:
'Rayderr said:
'Office' spinoff scoop: Dwight's brother castby James HibberdAnother young talent has joined NBC’s Office spinoff.Former College Humor comedy actor Thomas Middleditch is going down to The Farm. Middleditch, who also has a role in the upcoming film The Campaign, will play Dwight Schrute’s brother Jeb.Jeb is described as a pot farmer who’s failed at bunch of wacky business ventures (such as Bigfoot hunter). He joins actress Majandra Delfino who’s been previously cast as Dwight’s younger sister Fannie.With The Farm filling out its cast and NBC deciding to end The Office after the upcoming ninth season, it seems very likely this spinoff will at least make it to the pilot stage (which as an episode of The Office during the final season).
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Sounds horrible.
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I agreeNBC sucks
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yep
 
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