*** OFFICIAL The Pacific Thread *** (1 Viewer)

[Rovers]

My grandfather was also in this war, responsible for ship to shore communications. He said he would go ashore and see dead American soldiers hanging from trees with their manhood cut off and stuffed into their mouth.

Well it took them all of 1 week to show this.

i didnt see the manhood part. Not that this is something i desire to go back and see, but was that really what was going on last night when they came across those dead guys in the jungle?

When they were moving through the jungle and came upon the dead Americans, one was tied to a tree and had blood all around his groin. Another American had been decapitated and had something phallic hanging from his mouth.

saw that part but missed those details.Not sure if i want to go back and watch it.

I thought they were natives, not Marines... I DVD'd it, and already watched it a second time. Hate to do the BoB comparison, but I've watched BoB at least 8 times, every episode. It had legs. My first viewing of Pacific had me on the edge of my seat. My second viewing of Pacific wasn't nearly as enjoyable as watching BoB the second time. The writer character is a little too over done. I also though his perfect shot with a .45 from twenty yards away to kill that paniced *** soldier was a reach. A one handed shot like that... very hard to do. maybe it happened...

 

[Todem]

Enjoyed part one and I am sure the character development will get more meaty as we move forward.

Great stuff. But I can't compare it to BoB becuase that is the pinnacle of WWII movies/mini series. My favorite of all time.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

Good stuff.

Hard to keep track of all the characters with their helmets and pack on (aside from the main three - and that even took awhile), but I remember having the same problem at first in Band of Brothers. (Luz - Heffron - Talbert - Penkala, Shifty - Popeye). Watching them at Currahee, ect. helped a little with this.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

Also, the stark contrast between the shiny reinforcements and the newly "seasoned" guys was very interesting. You learned quick.

 

[Christo]

meh

 

[jamny]

Good start.

Nice to see a couple of guys from The Black Donnellys get work.

 

[Hellfire Snail]

meh

My expectation was that the first one would be the weakest. I think it will improve each week.

 

[Harry Manback]

Loved it.

 

[beer 30]

Since BoB was a book first about a group that went from training to war as a unit and in this it's more focused on the events of three individual Marines it's going to be quite different. I did enjoy the first episode immensely.

I've driven countless miles down Basilone Road on Camp Pendelton and I'm well aware of his service in the Corps but the other two aren't as well known to me. It's funny, I know all about what happened in Europe during WW2 but haven't read near as much about the Pacific Campaigns with the exception of Iwo Jima and I was a Marine. I learned a bunch of Marine Corps History in boot camp but never really studied those battles.

Time to start hitting the books.

With The Old Breed by EB Sledge This will learn you all you need to know about Sledge. Just finished this book about a month ago, had no idea he was going to be one of the main characters in the series.Loved the first episode. If you have read much about the Pacific island hopping campaign I thought this captured the feeling pretty well. Both sides were feeling each other out tactically to see what worked and what didn't. You'll see a dramatic change in Japanese tactics before the end of the series that turned the Pacific into a meat grinder. These first battles were quite different than those waged on Okinawa or Iwo Jima. The only knock I would have is when the Navy left I think there was a much more profound sense of abandonment than what was portrayed last night but I'm not sure how you translate that feeling onto film.

Aside from that, anything that puts the spotlight on these guys is good to me. I'll say it again, we lose over 1,000 WWII vets every day. Do not let history die without taking the opportunity to thank one of them for their service

 

[Harry Manback]

Since BoB was a book first about a group that went from training to war as a unit and in this it's more focused on the events of three individual Marines it's going to be quite different. I did enjoy the first episode immensely.

I've driven countless miles down Basilone Road on Camp Pendelton and I'm well aware of his service in the Corps but the other two aren't as well known to me. It's funny, I know all about what happened in Europe during WW2 but haven't read near as much about the Pacific Campaigns with the exception of Iwo Jima and I was a Marine. I learned a bunch of Marine Corps History in boot camp but never really studied those battles.

Time to start hitting the books.

With The Old Breed by EB Sledge This will learn you all you need to know about Sledge. Just finished this book about a month ago, had no idea he was going to be one of the main characters in the series.Loved the first episode. If you have read much about the Pacific island hopping campaign I thought this captured the feeling pretty well. Both sides were feeling each other out tactically to see what worked and what didn't. You'll see a dramatic change in Japanese tactics before the end of the series that turned the Pacific into a meat grinder. These first battles were quite different than those waged on Okinawa or Iwo Jima. The only knock I would have is when the Navy left I think there was a much more profound sense of abandonment than what was portrayed last night but I'm not sure how you translate that feeling onto film.

Aside from that, anything that puts the spotlight on these guys is good to me. I'll say it again, we lose over 1,000 WWII vets every day. Do not let history die without taking the opportunity to thank one of them for their service

I was just thinking this last night.We're fast approaching a time where there will be no living WWII vets left.

And that's a damn shame.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

Since BoB was a book first about a group that went from training to war as a unit and in this it's more focused on the events of three individual Marines it's going to be quite different. I did enjoy the first episode immensely.

I've driven countless miles down Basilone Road on Camp Pendelton and I'm well aware of his service in the Corps but the other two aren't as well known to me. It's funny, I know all about what happened in Europe during WW2 but haven't read near as much about the Pacific Campaigns with the exception of Iwo Jima and I was a Marine. I learned a bunch of Marine Corps History in boot camp but never really studied those battles.

Time to start hitting the books.

With The Old Breed by EB Sledge This will learn you all you need to know about Sledge. Just finished this book about a month ago, had no idea he was going to be one of the main characters in the series.Loved the first episode. If you have read much about the Pacific island hopping campaign I thought this captured the feeling pretty well. Both sides were feeling each other out tactically to see what worked and what didn't. You'll see a dramatic change in Japanese tactics before the end of the series that turned the Pacific into a meat grinder. These first battles were quite different than those waged on Okinawa or Iwo Jima. The only knock I would have is when the Navy left I think there was a much more profound sense of abandonment than what was portrayed last night but I'm not sure how you translate that feeling onto film.

Aside from that, anything that puts the spotlight on these guys is good to me. I'll say it again, we lose over 1,000 WWII vets every day. Do not let history die without taking the opportunity to thank one of them for their service

I think I have posted this before (maybe even several times), but as a result of Band of Brothers, I got to thank Don Malarkey in person (while he was snacking on french fries at the Florham Park, New Jersey McDonalds years ago - on his way to West Point to speak to the cadets).:flag:

God bless em all.

 

[beer 30]

I think I have posted this before (maybe even several times), but as a result of Band of Brothers, I got to thank Don Malarkey in person (while he was snacking on french fries at the Florham Park, New Jersey McDonalds years ago - on his way to West Point to speak to the cadets).:flag:God bless em all.

I remember that story from on of the BoB threads floating about here. That's really cool, especially when it's not something planned or at an event. I had that opportunity twice a few weeks ago, in a restaurant and a mall, two older gents with WWII vet hats on along with the various insignia of their outfits. Thanked them both and after they figured out I wasn't trying to sell them something or mug them you could tell they were kinda taken aback. I think it's because it doesn't happen enough. No cooler feeling than to see an old vets eyes light up when you offer a hand and thank him for his service.Most the of the BoB guys, at least who are still alive have politely asked to be excused from the public eye. I think the spotlight was fun for most of them for a while but age, health and the constant pull to be somewhere or sign something has taken a toll on them.

 

[cr8f]

Back on tonight...

 

[ceo3west]

 

[higgins]

"Now you've got a clear field of fire."

Jeebus...

 

[prosopis]

"Now you've got a clear field of fire."

Jeebus...

yeah that was something.

 

[Christo]

meh

My expectation was that the first one would be the weakest. I think it will improve each week.

 

[Capella]

"Betty Hutton stopped by giving out blow jobs"

 

[Foosball God]

I wonder if they'll put the second episode online like they did the first.

 

[Sabertooth]

Good show, seemed like the episode tonight was about 20 minutes long. What draws me to this is that by most accounts this is pretty much what happened. I think of how lucky I am to be living right here, right now. I am truly grateful for it.

 

[biggamer3]

what a fantastic second episode!

First was a warmup and kinda boring, second was AMAZING, as good as any episode of BoB

Why didnt the Japs have a frags? Seems like they were walking into a deathtrap again and again, didnt they communicate with one another, someone should have said to throw some explosives in the American gunfire vicinity no?

 

[Mario Kart]

You're new nickname is Peaches. Have to write Vera about this, Peaches.

You're new name is Old Faithful.

 

[TLEF316]

You're new nickname is Peaches. Have to write Vera about this, Peaches.You're new name is Old Faithful.

Your doing it wrong.

 

[DPRugby]

what a fantastic second episode!First was a warmup and kinda boring, second was AMAZING, as good as any episode of BoBWhy didnt the Japs have a frags? Seems like they were walking into a deathtrap again and again, didnt they communicate with one another, someone should have said to throw some explosives in the American gunfire vicinity no?

That long night time battle scene was INTENSE. Just crazy.

 

[culdeus]

Since BoB was a book first about a group that went from training to war as a unit and in this it's more focused on the events of three individual Marines it's going to be quite different. I did enjoy the first episode immensely.

I've driven countless miles down Basilone Road on Camp Pendelton and I'm well aware of his service in the Corps but the other two aren't as well known to me. It's funny, I know all about what happened in Europe during WW2 but haven't read near as much about the Pacific Campaigns with the exception of Iwo Jima and I was a Marine. I learned a bunch of Marine Corps History in boot camp but never really studied those battles.

Time to start hitting the books.

With The Old Breed by EB Sledge This will learn you all you need to know about Sledge. Just finished this book about a month ago, had no idea he was going to be one of the main characters in the series.Loved the first episode. If you have read much about the Pacific island hopping campaign I thought this captured the feeling pretty well. Both sides were feeling each other out tactically to see what worked and what didn't. You'll see a dramatic change in Japanese tactics before the end of the series that turned the Pacific into a meat grinder. These first battles were quite different than those waged on Okinawa or Iwo Jima. The only knock I would have is when the Navy left I think there was a much more profound sense of abandonment than what was portrayed last night but I'm not sure how you translate that feeling onto film.

Aside from that, anything that puts the spotlight on these guys is good to me. I'll say it again, we lose over 1,000 WWII vets every day. Do not let history die without taking the opportunity to thank one of them for their service

They basically switch from offense to defense. Tends to change the mindset.

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

Since BoB was a book first about a group that went from training to war as a unit and in this it's more focused on the events of three individual Marines it's going to be quite different. I did enjoy the first episode immensely.

I've driven countless miles down Basilone Road on Camp Pendelton and I'm well aware of his service in the Corps but the other two aren't as well known to me. It's funny, I know all about what happened in Europe during WW2 but haven't read near as much about the Pacific Campaigns with the exception of Iwo Jima and I was a Marine. I learned a bunch of Marine Corps History in boot camp but never really studied those battles.

Time to start hitting the books.

With The Old Breed by EB Sledge This will learn you all you need to know about Sledge. Just finished this book about a month ago, had no idea he was going to be one of the main characters in the series.Loved the first episode. If you have read much about the Pacific island hopping campaign I thought this captured the feeling pretty well. Both sides were feeling each other out tactically to see what worked and what didn't. You'll see a dramatic change in Japanese tactics before the end of the series that turned the Pacific into a meat grinder. These first battles were quite different than those waged on Okinawa or Iwo Jima. The only knock I would have is when the Navy left I think there was a much more profound sense of abandonment than what was portrayed last night but I'm not sure how you translate that feeling onto film.

Aside from that, anything that puts the spotlight on these guys is good to me. I'll say it again, we lose over 1,000 WWII vets every day. Do not let history die without taking the opportunity to thank one of them for their service

They basically switch from offense to defense. Tends to change the mindset.

The book definitely goes into this more...very very good read

 

[culdeus]

Cream and sugar?

 

[stlrams]

Is the portrayal of the Japanese land tactics accurate? Why are they attempting frontal assualts against a dug in enemy with machine guns? I thought battlefield tactics and lessons had evolved based on what happen in WWI, civil war etc.....

 

[Christo]

Is the portrayal of the Japanese land tactics accurate? Why are they attempting frontal assualts against a dug in enemy with machine guns? I thought battlefield tactics and lessons had evolved based on what happen in WWI, civil war etc.....

At that point the Japanese had run through the western Pacific like a hot knife through butter. They didn't have too much reason to respect us as a fighting force.

 

[culdeus]

And is running full speed with a bayonet, at night, in a jungle, while being shot at, in a bog a good idea?

 

[Harry Manback]

And is running full speed with a bayonet, at night, in a jungle, while being shot at, in a bog a good idea?

There's a reason they lost the war.

 

[Christo]

And is running full speed with a bayonet, at night, in a jungle, while being shot at, in a bog a good idea?

There's a reason they lost the war.

They lost the war before Guadalcanal.

 

[beer 30]

Is the portrayal of the Japanese land tactics accurate? Why are they attempting frontal assualts against a dug in enemy with machine guns? I thought battlefield tactics and lessons had evolved based on what happen in WWI, civil war etc.....

At that point the Japanese had run through the western Pacific like a hot knife through butter. They didn't have too much reason to respect us as a fighting force.

Yes, the tactics are accurately displayed. As I mentioned earlier the Japanese have a major change regarding their tactics that you will see very soon.Christo is also correct in that during the early phase of the island campaign the Japanese didn't consider the US fighting man as a worthy opponent. Similar to how the Nazi's carved up Europe the Japanese hadn't lost or even had much opposition to this point in the war. They had no reason to believe that we would stand and fight.

 

[culdeus]

well, for those that don't like the non war stuff it looks like the next episode has little, if any, war action in it.

 

[Sabertooth]

And is running full speed with a bayonet, at night, in a jungle, while being shot at, in a bog a good idea?

There's a reason they lost the war.

They lost the war before Guadalcanal.

Can you unpack this. I'm not well versed in WWII.

 

[Christo]

And is running full speed with a bayonet, at night, in a jungle, while being shot at, in a bog a good idea?

There's a reason they lost the war.

They lost the war before Guadalcanal.

Can you unpack this. I'm not well versed in WWII.

The Japanese failure to sink our carriers at Pearl Harbor, Coral Sea and Midway along with their loss of three carriers at Midway crippled them. From then on it was just a matter of us grinding them up in the island hopping campaign.

 

[biggamer3]

well, for those that don't like the non war stuff it looks like the next episode has little, if any, war action in it.

Who exactly would watch the Pacific if not someone interested in war stuff?

 

[Senor Schmutzig]

Just got to watch the first episode and I enjoyed it like I thought I would. When watching this or BOB, my mind always goes to what I would be doing in that situation. These guys were tough.

Downloading episode 2 and will watch it later today,

 

[sjacksonfan]

I finally watched the first 2 episodes last night and I was pretty disappointed. Way overacted, way too many "poignant moments" and reflective pauses. The production value is pretty great but that doesn't rescue it from the corny script & the actors who are trying way too hard to act. Hope it gets better.

 

[culdeus]

well, for those that don't like the non war stuff it looks like the next episode has little, if any, war action in it.

Who exactly would watch the Pacific if not someone interested in war stuff?

I dunno. This episode is going to be skippable I guess. Instead of doing a boot camp episode I guess they decided to to it this way.

 

[gump]

What happened to run the *** navy off? One night they were crawling all over the canal...the next thing we see is the American navy back to pick up the troops after the victory.

 

[Raider Nation]

 

[culdeus]

What happened to run the *** navy off? One night they were crawling all over the canal...the next thing we see is the American navy back to pick up the troops after the victory.

Well, the entire episode as shown here was roughly 7 months condensed down into it's basic elements.And most of the naval battles were fought on the opposite side of the island out of view of the 1st Marines. So to that effect it was realistic. There were several key naval engagements, but the one that IIRC was the most crucial came when Japan over played their hand thinking they had knocked out the airbase with a large naval bombardment only to be met with significant air bombings only hours afterwards. I do believe there was an engineer that got CMOH honors for this amazing feat. Gradually the soldiers on the island took complete control of the seas during the daytime via airstrikes and harassment while the enemy had it at night, and finally the us navy took control of the seas at night. Game over.

 

[Harry Manback]

Blockbuster = Mmmmm mmmm good!

 

[Raider Nation]

Note to self: move to Australia.

 

[gump]

What happened to run the *** navy off? One night they were crawling all over the canal...the next thing we see is the American navy back to pick up the troops after the victory.

Well, the entire episode as shown here was roughly 7 months condensed down into it's basic elements.And most of the naval battles were fought on the opposite side of the island out of view of the 1st Marines. So to that effect it was realistic. There were several key naval engagements, but the one that IIRC was the most crucial came when Japan over played their hand thinking they had knocked out the airbase with a large naval bombardment only to be met with significant air bombings only hours afterwards. I do believe there was an engineer that got CMOH honors for this amazing feat. Gradually the soldiers on the island took complete control of the seas during the daytime via airstrikes and harassment while the enemy had it at night, and finally the us navy took control of the seas at night. Game over.

It seems like BoB had more narrative detail.

 

[derek19]

Note to self: move to Australia.

Ya, no ####..Sorry if i got something on your guy's TV. It was too much for the tube sock.

 

[higgins]

What in the wide world of sports was the point of this episode?

 

[Raider Nation]

What in the wide world of sports was the point of this episode?

Aussie chicks put out.

 

[prosopis]

What in the wide world of sports was the point of this episode?

Aussie chicks put out.

and fast