jamny
Footballguy
who!He recovered nicely from his gunshot wounds from Sons of Anarchy.Walton Goggins said:anyone see the latest Burn Notice and see a familiar face?
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***OFFICIAL*** The Shield - Season 7 (1 Viewer)
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Homer J Simpson
I don't push
Dutch has played a d-bag in two series since The Shield went bye-bye.who!He recovered nicely from his gunshot wounds from Sons of Anarchy.Walton Goggins said:anyone see the latest Burn Notice and see a familiar face?
jamny
Footballguy
Thanks. Good for him. I was hoping it was Vic. Any news on what he's up to?Dutch has played a d-bag in two series since The Shield went bye-bye.who!He recovered nicely from his gunshot wounds from Sons of Anarchy.Walton Goggins said:anyone see the latest Burn Notice and see a familiar face?
Your Mother
Footballguy
I'm glad the sub-title of this thread isn't "Family Meeting Inside"
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
I just blew threw all 7 seasons of this show in the past four weeks. There's something to be said for doing it this way. Awesome when you don't have to wait a week (or several months between seasons) for the next episode. Did the same thing with Lost, Prison Break and The Wire in previous months.
This show was indeed fantastic. The first two seasons were especially epic. The first half of the final season was a bit slow, with the whole Armenian/Mexican thing, but boy did it ever pick up steam. Vic is one of the most magnetic, complex TV personalities ever.
If I liked this show, do you guys think I'd also like Michael Chiklis in The Commish? If so, I'll make that my next project.
This show was indeed fantastic. The first two seasons were especially epic. The first half of the final season was a bit slow, with the whole Armenian/Mexican thing, but boy did it ever pick up steam. Vic is one of the most magnetic, complex TV personalities ever.
If I liked this show, do you guys think I'd also like Michael Chiklis in The Commish? If so, I'll make that my next project.
hooter311
Footballguy
Just wrapped up watching the DVD set of season 7.
My thoughts:
- I still can't believe that Vic ratted on Ronnie. Ronnie was so loyal to Vic he never even considered it, especially when he watched Vic turn down the first deal in front of him. I think it was totally out of character for Vic to not warn him before leaving the bust. Regardless of the stipulations given to him by the feds for his immunity. That was the last straw in me having any emotions at all invested in Vic. The last words of him yelling "Ronnie!" as the cops barge into the Strike Force room and Ronnie's dumbfounded reaction will be with me a long time.
- Scene of the whole series was in the 2nd to last episode with Vic needing a few minutes before he starts confessing his sins. I can't believe he spilled the beans, regardless of what was on the table.
- Goggin's acting owned the last season. Almost came to tears when he meets his end, and never expected to see what they found in the next room. His letter makes me think that he wishes he could have taken Vic down with him, but knew he didn't have the balls to do it. As someone previously said, Shane always looked to death as a way out the entire series. He was the character I could relate with the most.
- I wish Dutch would have had a real ending. Would have loved to see the kid kill him, or at least have Dutch kill one of the strike team members.
The ending wasn't very satisfying for me and the direction they went with Shane, Vic, or Ronnie. But just because the events didn't play out like I wanted doesn't take anything away from the quality in which they were done.
The Wire still holds top billing for me as far as series go, but The Shield had the best final season of any series I've ever watched. After watching the final episode and seeing how the end game plays out, I don't know if I could ever watch the earlier seasons again.
*****
Rot in hell Vic Mackey.
My thoughts:
- I still can't believe that Vic ratted on Ronnie. Ronnie was so loyal to Vic he never even considered it, especially when he watched Vic turn down the first deal in front of him. I think it was totally out of character for Vic to not warn him before leaving the bust. Regardless of the stipulations given to him by the feds for his immunity. That was the last straw in me having any emotions at all invested in Vic. The last words of him yelling "Ronnie!" as the cops barge into the Strike Force room and Ronnie's dumbfounded reaction will be with me a long time.
- Scene of the whole series was in the 2nd to last episode with Vic needing a few minutes before he starts confessing his sins. I can't believe he spilled the beans, regardless of what was on the table.
- Goggin's acting owned the last season. Almost came to tears when he meets his end, and never expected to see what they found in the next room. His letter makes me think that he wishes he could have taken Vic down with him, but knew he didn't have the balls to do it. As someone previously said, Shane always looked to death as a way out the entire series. He was the character I could relate with the most.
- I wish Dutch would have had a real ending. Would have loved to see the kid kill him, or at least have Dutch kill one of the strike team members.
The ending wasn't very satisfying for me and the direction they went with Shane, Vic, or Ronnie. But just because the events didn't play out like I wanted doesn't take anything away from the quality in which they were done.
The Wire still holds top billing for me as far as series go, but The Shield had the best final season of any series I've ever watched. After watching the final episode and seeing how the end game plays out, I don't know if I could ever watch the earlier seasons again.
*****
Rot in hell Vic Mackey.
No. 16
Footballguy
I think that was the point of the series finale to show that Vic was/is looking out for himself. That they made you actually like the guy for 7 seasons is a testament to the great writing of the show.
exactly... even though I did feel a tad sorry for him, when he looked out the window at the sirens and lights
Masked Vigilante
Footballguy
I never knew Walton Goggins' wife committed suicide back in 2004. Must have been a tough final scene for him to shoot.
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
I am at this point now. I saw the next post which kinda ruins the next episode. Tevon rtns? Looking forward to it.
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
post 329Two episodes left for me.
I included the second-to-last episode in the best television episodes of all time thread.
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
OK I have finished the series. Holy ####, I was torn apart over the family meeting. That scene with Mara and Jackson on the bed may haunt me forever. I wish Vic was killed at the end. Even though he lost almost everything it was not enough. Him getting his gun and that smirk on his face just infuriated me. I want him dead. It was a great series.
I cant get that image of Mara and Jackson out of my head.
It kills me 
I cant get that image of Mara and Jackson out of my head.
It kills me
No. 16
Footballguy
My favorite television series of ever.OK I have finished the series. Holy ####, I was torn apart over the family meeting. That scene with Mara and Jackson on the bed may haunt me forever. I wish Vic was killed at the end. Even though he lost almost everything it was not enough. Him getting his gun and that smirk on his face just infuriated me. I want him dead. It was a great series.I cant get that image of Mara and Jackson out of my head.It kills me
anakin
Footballguy
I just re-watched the last 7 episodes this week, but the point was to to put everyone in their own personal hell. Ronnie wanted to be free and he was the smartest and least violent member of the Strike Team. Ronnie now is stuck fighting for his life every day to survive locked up. Vic always hated Aceveda "the suit" and what he did. He always had the crutch of "his family" to justify what he did and why he did it. Now with the ex-wife and kids being taken care of by the feds and hidden to him, he is as caged as Ronnie is. Vic could survive and do well in prison regardless of his enemies as he still has the connections and survival instincts. Vic dying would end his pain. Having to write 10 pages each day of reports on things he wanted to experience and never seeing his kids again or going to prison for life after everything he confessed... Hard to choose which one I would take.The series changed for me when Lem died. He was the only guy I could relate to well. Shane went off the deep end when he did that and his dealings with Antoine Mitchell. Shane became a lot more human at the end to find out how much he loved his family. Shane was right in his last note....Vic and Shane made each other worse, but neither one was worse than the other one.OK I have finished the series. Holy ####, I was torn apart over the family meeting. That scene with Mara and Jackson on the bed may haunt me forever. I wish Vic was killed at the end. Even though he lost almost everything it was not enough. Him getting his gun and that smirk on his face just infuriated me. I want him dead. It was a great series.I cant get that image of Mara and Jackson out of my head.It kills me
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
I see what you are saying but I think Vic will be fine as always in a little time. To me that smirk on his face and the gun grab said that he realized that. He is such a despicable character that I wanted him to suffer more. I thought Shane suffered the most and that did not seem fair to me. Vic made Shane as far as I was concerned. Lem was the only decent human being on the strike team. Great show though and I have to say I had nightmares about "family meeting" last night. I am so glad we did not see the meeting. I may have needed psychiatric care if I saw that.I just re-watched the last 7 episodes this week, but the point was to to put everyone in their own personal hell. Ronnie wanted to be free and he was the smartest and least violent member of the Strike Team. Ronnie now is stuck fighting for his life every day to survive locked up. Vic always hated Aceveda "the suit" and what he did. He always had the crutch of "his family" to justify what he did and why he did it. Now with the ex-wife and kids being taken care of by the feds and hidden to him, he is as caged as Ronnie is. Vic could survive and do well in prison regardless of his enemies as he still has the connections and survival instincts. Vic dying would end his pain. Having to write 10 pages each day of reports on things he wanted to experience and never seeing his kids again or going to prison for life after everything he confessed... Hard to choose which one I would take.The series changed for me when Lem died. He was the only guy I could relate to well. Shane went off the deep end when he did that and his dealings with Antoine Mitchell. Shane became a lot more human at the end to find out how much he loved his family. Shane was right in his last note....Vic and Shane made each other worse, but neither one was worse than the other one.OK I have finished the series. Holy ####, I was torn apart over the family meeting. That scene with Mara and Jackson on the bed may haunt me forever. I wish Vic was killed at the end. Even though he lost almost everything it was not enough. Him getting his gun and that smirk on his face just infuriated me. I want him dead. It was a great series.I cant get that image of Mara and Jackson out of my head.
anakin
Footballguy
Three years in hell is still hell. As far as Shane goes, he killed Lem to protect himself. Shane had taken the grenade before Lem was backed into a corner by IAD. Vic and Ronnie would have never signed off on killing Lem. Lem was too loyal to the Strike Team. Lem would have taken the brunt of the prison time to save the others, but maybe not Shane as he loved Vic and Ronnie. After Lem burnt most of the money, Vic and Ronnie were angry but Shane wanted to take it out on Lem. The Strike Team was disbanded then and it was brought back together to save Shane for his messing with Mitchell. Unlike Vic, Shane didn't know how to maintain control of his business relationships. Mitchell took control of Shane. Then Shane started messing with the teenager who had a gang boyfriend and showed bad judgement earlier with the prostitute in the interigation room. When Vic cheated or played with the ladies, he never mixed with the criminal element: another cop, lawyer, federal agent, and domestic violence shelter worker.
Shane was out for only Shane and his family. He wanted to be closer to the Armenians and told the princess about the Money Train robbery to up his value. Shane knew that Vic's ex-wife and children didn't deserve the wrath that he had caused. Shane was a sloppy Vic without the foresight. Vic always had an endgame and the brains to get out of a jam. Vic got his endgame immunity, but it came at the cost of everything else he cared about: his family, Ronnie, Lem, and working the streets. Vic became a suit and he started smirking because he was already thinking about a way to get out of his jam.
Shane was out for only Shane and his family. He wanted to be closer to the Armenians and told the princess about the Money Train robbery to up his value. Shane knew that Vic's ex-wife and children didn't deserve the wrath that he had caused. Shane was a sloppy Vic without the foresight. Vic always had an endgame and the brains to get out of a jam. Vic got his endgame immunity, but it came at the cost of everything else he cared about: his family, Ronnie, Lem, and working the streets. Vic became a suit and he started smirking because he was already thinking about a way to get out of his jam.
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
I think if it came down to it Vic would have killed Lem.
Arch Stanton
Footballguy
Not a chance. Having Lem was the only thing that kept Vic from becoming what Shane became. Vic couldn't kill him any more than he could've sacrificed his kids.Two or three weeks ago I was breaking a 20 at a liquor store to get change from the laundromat and Goggins walked in. Living in LA for 10+ years I see actors all the time and most of the time don't give it a second thought. But I was literally star struck by him, my first instinct was sheer revulsion because of how well he played Shane. By the time I recovered he was out. Other than Glenn Close's turn on the show, Goggins was by far the most complex actor on the show. And that comes as a real surprise somewhere in the 4th and 6th seasons you just realize that.
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anakin
Footballguy
I think if it came down to it Vic would have killed Lem. No way Vic ever kills Lem. He might have had someone kill him in prison ala Aceveda, but no way Vic could kill him. Shane could kill anyone and he proved it during "Family Meeting"
Not a chance. Having Lem was the only thing that kept Vic from becoming what Shane became. Vic couldn't kill him any more than he could've sacrificed his kids. Great point!
Not a chance. Having Lem was the only thing that kept Vic from becoming what Shane became. Vic couldn't kill him any more than he could've sacrificed his kids. Great point!
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mr fancypants
Footballguy
Totally agree! When you saw Vic put a picture of Lem and Him (minus Shane & Ronnie) along with his kids at the end you knew his view of Lem.
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prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
I thought a lot less of Vic then others. I had sympathy for Shane because I think Vic made him what he was. Maybe you are correct that Vic could not kill Lem but I do think he could have and would have had Shane do it. The episode where Shane kills Lem was really hard to watch but when it happened I figured he did what Vic would have wanted him to do. I was a little surprised at Vics reaction when he found out Shane killed him.We all make our own decisions in life and we are responsible for them. I could could never let Shane off the hook but I felt he was a better person then Vic and if he had not met Vic he would have been a good citizen/family man. Disagreements like these are what makes this show interesting.
Just paid $50 or so for the final season a few weeks back. Didn't think of the holiday sale's coming.Great reading the last few pages after finishing the series. Great show. Terrific ending. Most of my thoughts have already been covered but anyone else dissappointed that Dutch and Danni did not get together.I know Dutch is his own worst enemy when it comes to women but Danni knew this. Would have liked her to just have said screw it and made it happen with Dutch. After the locker room scene, when the homeless guy died, I was hoping it was heading that way.
Senor Schmutzig
Footballguy
I have never seen Lie to Me but it may be worth watching to catch a glimpse of what was....
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Walton Goggins
Footballguy
No Goggins or Chiklis no thanks...like saying the Rolling Stones are on tour w/o Jagger and RichardsI have never seen Lie to Me but it may be worth watching to catch a glimpse of what was....
Porkchop Express
Footballguy
If Ronnie is sporting the beard or stache again Im there.No Goggins or Chiklis no thanks...like saying the Rolling Stones are on tour w/o Jagger and RichardsI have never seen Lie to Me but it may be worth watching to catch a glimpse of what was....
strykerpks
Footballguy
And if Danni is unpregnant and showing off those ####### (ETA BREASTS)...not to mention LemPorkchop Express said:If Ronnie is sporting the beard or stache again Im there.Walton Goggins said:No Goggins or Chiklis no thanks...like saying the Rolling Stones are on tour w/o Jagger and RichardsSenor Schmutzig said:I have never seen Lie to Me but it may be worth watching to catch a glimpse of what was....
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biggamer3
Footballguy
OMG. Just watched the entire series!!!
I have a few questions with the final season. First off the whole blackmail box they were focusing on was utterly ridiculous since they wanted it back the whole time, but it wasnt the box that was important but the info it contained. So say the Cartel thought the Armenians had it, even if they returned it if they just made copies of it, the cartel already lost their leverage.
Also are we to believe when they handed it back to cartel that Aceveda didnt take his file out?
Ronnie and Vic were so worried about Shane spilling beans on them, but he was on the run for an attempted murder charge. All his claims the Terry killing, the money train were loud suspicions about Vic and co for years, why couldnt Vic just say Shane is lying trying to bring others down with him? I doubt Shane's testimony would have been admissible in court to actually bring Vic down.
I have a few questions with the final season. First off the whole blackmail box they were focusing on was utterly ridiculous since they wanted it back the whole time, but it wasnt the box that was important but the info it contained. So say the Cartel thought the Armenians had it, even if they returned it if they just made copies of it, the cartel already lost their leverage.
Also are we to believe when they handed it back to cartel that Aceveda didnt take his file out?
Ronnie and Vic were so worried about Shane spilling beans on them, but he was on the run for an attempted murder charge. All his claims the Terry killing, the money train were loud suspicions about Vic and co for years, why couldnt Vic just say Shane is lying trying to bring others down with him? I doubt Shane's testimony would have been admissible in court to actually bring Vic down.
Obviously it's been a while for me. I seem to recall Shane had documented their transgressions and I think that, despite his dubious standing, he could have provided details that would have been damning to Vic, especially given that everyone was already out to get Vic anyway. As a side note, I was watching that dumb show No Ordinary Family with Chiklis and he made a reference to The Shield. A detective was explaining to his character about a train that transports money once a month from one location to another, and Chiklis says, "You mean a money train?" Then Chiklis' super-powered character stops the train from being robbed.
The Noid
Avoid me!
Watched the entire series for the first time over the last 2 months. Glad I did, good stuff. Not in the same league as "The Wire" but still a great run.
Hot chick rankings from the 7 seasons:
1) Officer Tina
2) Girl that "used" Shane in the interrogation room
3) Dina the car thief
4) Vic's lawyer
5) Corpse dog chick
6) Guardo's girlfriend the stirke team kidnapped
7) Aceveda's call girl
8) ICE Agent Olivia
9) Mara
10) Aceveda's wife
11) Kavanaugh's crazy ex-wife
12) Kesakhian's daughter
13) Danni
14) Corrine
15) Claudette
Hot chick rankings from the 7 seasons:
1) Officer Tina
2) Girl that "used" Shane in the interrogation room
3) Dina the car thief
4) Vic's lawyer
5) Corpse dog chick
6) Guardo's girlfriend the stirke team kidnapped
7) Aceveda's call girl
8) ICE Agent Olivia
9) Mara
10) Aceveda's wife
11) Kavanaugh's crazy ex-wife
12) Kesakhian's daughter
13) Danni
14) Corrine
15) Claudette
I never liked Vic. I could see that he was capable of doing good and noble things, moreso, when Rawlings was captin, but then he'd show the monsttrous side again. Loved that they nalied Ronnie's smug ### to the wall. The onloy thing I would have added would be the officers of the barn treating Vic to a blanket party after learning what happened to Crowley.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
About halfway through Season 2 of my first re-watch since the series finale. The final season was gut-wrenching, it's taken me this long to want to revisit it. It's kind of nice because I had forgotten some of the earlier plot (like how Armadillo finished up).
I'm also re-watching now because Breaking Bad is reminding me so much of this show. The issues of morality and consequences. BB's got that whirlwind of inevitability towards the end where you just know that nobody gets away unscathed.
I have no idea how much inspiration Gilligan drew from The Shield, but the show's feel an awful lot alike to me.
It's pretty amazing for The Shield that all the great set-up for the amazing finale was pretty much done by the end of Season 2, and it only got better and better.
It seems like The Shield gets underrated, compared to the other greats, though it does make some sense.
It's a cop show. Hardly a new genre, and it looks like most other cop shows early on (except for the end of the pilot). Admittedly, it has that look of other cop shows, which is kind of ugly compared to the visual style of BB.
It was also running against another show that's technically a cop show, and happens to be the best show of all time.
Then the show took awhile to find itself.
With so much intensity and, at times, seeming to want to shock for the sake of shocking (Sutter's touch, I think), it was probably easy to assume it wasn't a very deep show.
Anyway, the 2nd time through is pretty awesome. The characters are so great, and I'd forgotten just how much it sucks you in and won't let go.
I figure I'll finish back up right around the time BB ends, and I'll have to decide what I think the 2nd best show of all-time is
I'm also re-watching now because Breaking Bad is reminding me so much of this show. The issues of morality and consequences. BB's got that whirlwind of inevitability towards the end where you just know that nobody gets away unscathed.
I have no idea how much inspiration Gilligan drew from The Shield, but the show's feel an awful lot alike to me.
It's pretty amazing for The Shield that all the great set-up for the amazing finale was pretty much done by the end of Season 2, and it only got better and better.
It seems like The Shield gets underrated, compared to the other greats, though it does make some sense.
It's a cop show. Hardly a new genre, and it looks like most other cop shows early on (except for the end of the pilot). Admittedly, it has that look of other cop shows, which is kind of ugly compared to the visual style of BB.
It was also running against another show that's technically a cop show, and happens to be the best show of all time.
Then the show took awhile to find itself.
With so much intensity and, at times, seeming to want to shock for the sake of shocking (Sutter's touch, I think), it was probably easy to assume it wasn't a very deep show.
Anyway, the 2nd time through is pretty awesome. The characters are so great, and I'd forgotten just how much it sucks you in and won't let go.
I figure I'll finish back up right around the time BB ends, and I'll have to decide what I think the 2nd best show of all-time is
Homer J Simpson
I don't push
You'll cry again at the end of Season Six. Friggin' Shayne, that ####### hillbilly.
Homer J Simpson
I don't push
I've been re-watching as well, about 5 episodes left. It's easily #3 for me among dramas.
BB
Wire
Shield
BB
Wire
Shield
pollardsvision
Footballguy
I'm dreading that far.You'll cry again at the end of Season Six. Friggin' Shayne, that ####### hillbilly.
Connie was rough enough. Followed by the Co-Pilot episode a few episodes later really sucked.
Speaking of Connie, it's hard not to make comparisons right now.....
Corrine plus Connie>>>>>>>>>>>>>Skyler plus the meth-head hooker in BB
Homer J Simpson
I don't push
The Shield had some smokin hotties over the years.I'm dreading that far.You'll cry again at the end of Season Six. Friggin' Shayne, that ####### hillbilly.
Connie was rough enough. Followed by the Co-Pilot episode a few episodes later really sucked.
Speaking of Connie, it's hard not to make comparisons right now.....
Corrine plus Connie>>>>>>>>>>>>>Skyler plus the meth-head hooker in BB
pollardsvision
Footballguy
I love me some Tulip, especially after one of the greatest lines in TV historyThe Shield had some smokin hotties over the years.I'm dreading that far.You'll cry again at the end of Season Six. Friggin' Shayne, that ####### hillbilly.
Connie was rough enough. Followed by the Co-Pilot episode a few episodes later really sucked.
Speaking of Connie, it's hard not to make comparisons right now.....
Corrine plus Connie>>>>>>>>>>>>>Skyler plus the meth-head hooker in BB
I've got a yammy full of Georgia joy juice
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Speaking of hot women, I had no idea who the hell Kristen Bell was the first time around. Holy hell, she's hot, and I would've never known, but she can act a too. That ####### Armadillo.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Wow, what a finale to Season 2 and a powerful scene to end it. I loved Vic's excitement coming to meet the rest of the Strike Team that quickly faded to match the rest of the team's "oh ####, what do we do now?" demeanor.
That pile of cash was another similarity with Breaking Bad. Both moments represent the last major heist and beginning of the free fall towards total annihilation.
That pile of cash was another similarity with Breaking Bad. Both moments represent the last major heist and beginning of the free fall towards total annihilation.
Chaka
Footballguy
:(You'll cry again at the end of Season Six. Friggin' Shayne, that ####### hillbilly.
Poor Lem
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No, I don't feel sorry for him. He knew who he was dealing with. He knew, pretty much, what happened to Crowley. He took a risk running with that gang and then going against orders by not going to Mexico. He's complicit and was on the receiving end of a predictable result.:(You'll cry again at the end of Season Six. Friggin' Shayne, that ####### hillbilly.
Poor Lem
That's S5 you guys are talking about. I agree that The Shield gets underrated. I just list it with the Wire as 1a and 1b for me. If Breaking Bad ends well as I expect it to, it will make 1c. Mad Men has a chance at 1d if it does the same. I've never had the gut-wrenching feeling watching a TV show the way I had on a few occasions watching The Shield.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Just went through Eps. 4, 5, and 6 from S3. Ugh.
SPOILERS
From Vic turning pimp on the hooker to Shane's romantic proposal to the Shane-Tavon-Mara fight to the Aceveda "incident" that I can't even bare to speak of.
I had forgotten just how awesome and terrible Mara is at the same time. I loved the end of the fight scene, when Tavon lunged at her, loyal to the bitter end Mara is ready to blast him again with that iron. Those 2 are so perfect for each other. I've still got 4.5 seasons to go, but it's already tormenting me.
I fully expect BB to stick the landing, and I'd still be shocked if they surpass "Family Meeting". I don't even see how it would be possible.
strykerpks
Footballguy
Almost 4 years later, in the season 7 thread, I don't think you have to worry about season 3 spoilers
But I'm still on S1 of Breaking Bad so give me a break
The Shield was probably the first show I was ever emotionally invested in. Was on the edge of my seat nearly every episode. I've got all the Shield DVDs but have to watch The Wires, BB and a few others for the first time before I can go back and watch this for a 3rd time.
But I'm still on S1 of Breaking Bad so give me a break
The Shield was probably the first show I was ever emotionally invested in. Was on the edge of my seat nearly every episode. I've got all the Shield DVDs but have to watch The Wires, BB and a few others for the first time before I can go back and watch this for a 3rd time.
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