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*OFFICIAL* Thread: WIS X and the Cluster of Sim (1 Viewer)

MrPhoenix said:
Kraft... said:
I dont think I have ever had this offensive oriented a team in any of the 10 sims. Even considering my ballpark that's the case (I have had some pretty offense favorable parks before, fenway etc).Oddly, a couple of my pitchers are actually considerably better at home, which is weird... though overall pitching is a total crapshoot here. You'd think 900 innings of 1.05, 1.01 and .99 WHIP, all with good HR numbers and other plus numbers, would be solid.Think again.
Pitching is getting killed this go round. Walk an HR numbers seem much higher than usual.
I know this is a bit :lmao: -ish of me, but I really wonder if there's a glitch or something that's causing these ridiculous walk rates.
lol
 
Here's an oddity - Ground Rule Double down the RF line in the Baker Bowl.

Isn't it a 60 foot wall out there? Thats one HELL of a bounce.

 
Here's an oddity - Ground Rule Double down the RF line in the Baker Bowl.Isn't it a 60 foot wall out there? Thats one HELL of a bounce.
I'm not sure a combination of a tennis ball and a trampolene could get it over the RF wall.
 
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Here's an oddity - Ground Rule Double down the RF line in the Baker Bowl.Isn't it a 60 foot wall out there? Thats one HELL of a bounce.
I'm not sure a combination of a tennis ball and a trampolene could get it over the RF wall.
It's a TOWERING fly ball, my goodness - that must be 600 feet in the air!!! The right fielder has lost it in the stratosphere and it has now hit a metal drain, bouncing 72 feet BACK in the air and over the wall for a ground rule double!
 
Here's an oddity - Ground Rule Double down the RF line in the Baker Bowl.Isn't it a 60 foot wall out there? Thats one HELL of a bounce.
I'm not sure a combination of a tennis ball and a trampolene could get it over the RF wall.
It's a TOWERING fly ball, my goodness - that must be 600 feet in the air!!! The right fielder has lost it in the stratosphere and it has now hit a metal drain, bouncing 72 feet BACK in the air and over the wall for a ground rule double!
Or if you're a commentator for WhatIfSports:"Jeff Heath hits it out to RF that bounces over the wall for a ground rule double".
 
The only thing that is keeping me from running away with my division is by garbage bullpen. Norm Charlton and Lee Smith combined to blow a 1-run lead in the 9th.

I would be open to trading ANY of my hitters for a "proven closer."

 
Tosche Station Bullpen Update:

Besides Sid Fernandez and the departing Bryan Harvey, none of my full time relievers has an ERA under SIX. Charlton failed the closers test against Babe Who? and now, I'm giving "TEN. POINT. SIXTYSIX." a shot. I fully expect Hernandez to fail miserably and to keep having my bullpen absolutely sabotage my season.

 
Talk about losing in style...

in a 7th inning 10-1 blowout, the first sightings of my mop up guys is made.

Result: 7 run inning on way to a 20-1 uber blowout. Ouch.

 
Lets get some trade talk going...

Available (Real Stats):

Name ..................... (B) Pos PA/ AB/ HR RBI SB AVG OBP SLG Salary

Lenny Dykstra..... '90 (L) CF* 691 590 09 60 33 .325 .418 .441 7.19M

Rickey Henderson '90 ® RF* 594 489 28 61 65 .325 .439 .577 7.70M

Reggie Jackson .. '80 (L) LF* 601 514 41 111 1 .300 .398 .597 5.53M

...............................IP/162 ERA OAV WHIP K/9 BB/9 Salary

Dave Steib .....'83 ® 278.0 3.04 .219 1.14 6.05 3.01 8.61M

Steve Carlton. '77 (L) 283.0 2.64 .223 1.12 6.30 2.83 9.04M

Couple things I would look for.

Could package two of the above OFs for an Uber Stud OF.

Could include Dykstra or Henderson and swap for a comparable lefty Power Bat (HRs and Doubles).

Could do one of those OFs (prob Dyk or Henderson) and one of those pitchers for a stud pitcher.

Basically, Im open to swap speed for power or upgrade by doing a 2-1 or 3-2 type deal.

 
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I'll be around in about an hour for sim live play and then I'll be around all this week to make up games with people. Just send me a pm if you want to play and I'll try to get over there, but otherwise just look for me.

 
Anything in the future involving dice rolls I'm out of. Thanks.
I had good intentions when I came up with this god forsaken idea.
Great idea, bad engine.
this shtick is pretty good considerign all the "good" teams are doing fairly well.
This sim is threatening to unsurp my knowledge of who was a legendary pitcher and who wasn't.Christy Mathewson = NOT A LEGEND

 
MrPhoenix said:
This sim is threatening to unsurp my knowledge of who was a legendary pitcher and who wasn't.

Christy Mathewson = NOT A LEGEND
Yeah, but it's Mathewson's sixth-best season, right? Even with the dice-rolling evening things out, there are still a lot of all-time batting performances out there. Take that same Mathewson season, and use it in an $80 million open league, and he'd probably clean up.I do think WIS needs to throttle back the BB rates somehow, though. Additonally, I think they tried to overcorrect for a relatively low number of errors in earlier engines, and now have an engine that spits out a few too many Es.

 
MrPhoenix said:
This sim is threatening to unsurp my knowledge of who was a legendary pitcher and who wasn't.

Christy Mathewson = NOT A LEGEND
Yeah, but it's Mathewson's sixth-best season, right? Even with the dice-rolling evening things out, there are still a lot of all-time batting performances out there. Take that same Mathewson season, and use it in an $80 million open league, and he'd probably clean up.I do think WIS needs to throttle back the BB rates somehow, though. Additonally, I think they tried to overcorrect for a relatively low number of errors in earlier engines, and now have an engine that spits out a few too many Es.
Yeah, it's Mathewson's 6th best, but is a pitcher with a 2.26 ERA, 1.15 WHIP, and a 3/1 K/BB ratio supposed to be bad? The pitcher with the highest ERA is Mickey Lolich, who had a higher ERA, WHIP, and lower K/BB ratio in the year he pitched.Granted, Mathewson hasn't reached "horrible" territory yet, but at a 4.78 ERA and 1.51 WHIP, something is amiss.

 
MrPhoenix said:
This sim is threatening to unsurp my knowledge of who was a legendary pitcher and who wasn't.

Christy Mathewson = NOT A LEGEND
Yeah, but it's Mathewson's sixth-best season, right? Even with the dice-rolling evening things out, there are still a lot of all-time batting performances out there. Take that same Mathewson season, and use it in an $80 million open league, and he'd probably clean up.I do think WIS needs to throttle back the BB rates somehow, though. Additonally, I think they tried to overcorrect for a relatively low number of errors in earlier engines, and now have an engine that spits out a few too many Es.
Yeah the errors seem way up also. I'm having trouble with giving up a lot of runs early for some reason and then there have been some audacious endings to games. I was up 8-1 on Phoenix in the 8th and he scored 7 to tie then 3 to take the lead in the 10th. I scored 4 in the bottom of the 10th to win. That's not fun because it's very improbable given I had my closer in with the score 8-3 and in three pitches he gave up a single, a two run double, and a three run HR.
 
MrPhoenix said:
This sim is threatening to unsurp my knowledge of who was a legendary pitcher and who wasn't.

Christy Mathewson = NOT A LEGEND
Yeah, but it's Mathewson's sixth-best season, right? Even with the dice-rolling evening things out, there are still a lot of all-time batting performances out there. Take that same Mathewson season, and use it in an $80 million open league, and he'd probably clean up.I do think WIS needs to throttle back the BB rates somehow, though. Additonally, I think they tried to overcorrect for a relatively low number of errors in earlier engines, and now have an engine that spits out a few too many Es.
Yeah, it's Mathewson's 6th best, but is a pitcher with a 2.26 ERA, 1.15 WHIP, and a 3/1 K/BB ratio supposed to be bad? The pitcher with the highest ERA is Mickey Lolich, who had a higher ERA, WHIP, and lower K/BB ratio in the year he pitched.Granted, Mathewson hasn't reached "horrible" territory yet, but at a 4.78 ERA and 1.51 WHIP, something is amiss.
The Matty season you're using has a 2.55 Log5 BB/9. There are a lot of guys worse in this Sim, but it's one of Mathewson's poorer years in this regard. Poor control is amplified in this Sim because a most of the hitters he's facing have way above average OBPs. Actually, I think the engine played a semi-realistic brand of ball during the Disco Era sim because there weren't as many freak seasons as outliers.'03 is Matty's thirteenth best season if you look purely at WHIP. He was an excellent pitcher for a long time and a gentleman on and off the field in an era when this wasn't the norm. He's still a legend whatever the sim does to his stats.

 
MrPhoenix said:
This sim is threatening to unsurp my knowledge of who was a legendary pitcher and who wasn't.

Christy Mathewson = NOT A LEGEND
Yeah, but it's Mathewson's sixth-best season, right? Even with the dice-rolling evening things out, there are still a lot of all-time batting performances out there. Take that same Mathewson season, and use it in an $80 million open league, and he'd probably clean up.I do think WIS needs to throttle back the BB rates somehow, though. Additonally, I think they tried to overcorrect for a relatively low number of errors in earlier engines, and now have an engine that spits out a few too many Es.
Yeah, it's Mathewson's 6th best, but is a pitcher with a 2.26 ERA, 1.15 WHIP, and a 3/1 K/BB ratio supposed to be bad? The pitcher with the highest ERA is Mickey Lolich, who had a higher ERA, WHIP, and lower K/BB ratio in the year he pitched.Granted, Mathewson hasn't reached "horrible" territory yet, but at a 4.78 ERA and 1.51 WHIP, something is amiss.
A 1.15 DEADBALL WHIP is not going to do well. In fact, sub 5 era and 1.5 whip is borderline good and at least decent.Take Larry Gura, doing worse than Math with a 1.01 WHIP and good numbers accross the board, or same with Spud .99 WHIP chandler.

 
MrPhoenix said:
This sim is threatening to unsurp my knowledge of who was a legendary pitcher and who wasn't.

Christy Mathewson = NOT A LEGEND
Yeah, but it's Mathewson's sixth-best season, right? Even with the dice-rolling evening things out, there are still a lot of all-time batting performances out there. Take that same Mathewson season, and use it in an $80 million open league, and he'd probably clean up.I do think WIS needs to throttle back the BB rates somehow, though. Additonally, I think they tried to overcorrect for a relatively low number of errors in earlier engines, and now have an engine that spits out a few too many Es.
Yeah, it's Mathewson's 6th best, but is a pitcher with a 2.26 ERA, 1.15 WHIP, and a 3/1 K/BB ratio supposed to be bad? The pitcher with the highest ERA is Mickey Lolich, who had a higher ERA, WHIP, and lower K/BB ratio in the year he pitched.Granted, Mathewson hasn't reached "horrible" territory yet, but at a 4.78 ERA and 1.51 WHIP, something is amiss.
The Matty season you're using has a 2.55 Log5 BB/9. There are a lot of guys worse in this Sim, but it's one of Mathewson's poorer years in this regard. Poor control is amplified in this Sim because a most of the hitters he's facing have way above average OBPs. Actually, I think the engine played a semi-realistic brand of ball during the Disco Era sim because there weren't as many freak seasons as outliers.'03 is Matty's thirteenth best season if you look purely at WHIP. He was an excellent pitcher for a long time and a gentleman on and off the field in an era when this wasn't the norm. He's still a legend whatever the sim does to his stats.
I agree... the few outlier seasons made the Disco Era very much like real baseball. In this one, you have some unlucky #6 rolls, your usual SIM mysteries (Im talking to you Spud) and have enough top 2-3 seasons of the uber greats to throw things a bit out of whack.This would have to be the most range we have had in a sim between good players and some mediocre players tosses in. When a mediocre offensive player goes against a top pitcher, they get out. reverse the rolls and you get some stupid walks and offense.

 
MrPhoenix said:
This sim is threatening to unsurp my knowledge of who was a legendary pitcher and who wasn't.

Christy Mathewson = NOT A LEGEND
Yeah, but it's Mathewson's sixth-best season, right? Even with the dice-rolling evening things out, there are still a lot of all-time batting performances out there. Take that same Mathewson season, and use it in an $80 million open league, and he'd probably clean up.I do think WIS needs to throttle back the BB rates somehow, though. Additonally, I think they tried to overcorrect for a relatively low number of errors in earlier engines, and now have an engine that spits out a few too many Es.
Yeah, it's Mathewson's 6th best, but is a pitcher with a 2.26 ERA, 1.15 WHIP, and a 3/1 K/BB ratio supposed to be bad? The pitcher with the highest ERA is Mickey Lolich, who had a higher ERA, WHIP, and lower K/BB ratio in the year he pitched.Granted, Mathewson hasn't reached "horrible" territory yet, but at a 4.78 ERA and 1.51 WHIP, something is amiss.
The Matty season you're using has a 2.55 Log5 BB/9. There are a lot of guys worse in this Sim, but it's one of Mathewson's poorer years in this regard. Poor control is amplified in this Sim because a most of the hitters he's facing have way above average OBPs. Actually, I think the engine played a semi-realistic brand of ball during the Disco Era sim because there weren't as many freak seasons as outliers.'03 is Matty's thirteenth best season if you look purely at WHIP. He was an excellent pitcher for a long time and a gentleman on and off the field in an era when this wasn't the norm. He's still a legend whatever the sim does to his stats.
That's the biggest thing...the cutoff between good and bad pitchers BB/9 didn't go up at all like I expected. There's no real way to combat that after the fact. The one part that I didn't expect is that defense and stadium have had a whole heck of a lot more effect than I would have expected. My MI combo of Boudreau and Schoendist turn a ridiculous # of DPs.

 
Agree that the errors seem goofy. Cases in point:

Harland Clift: B/B - 9 errors

Rod Carew: A/A- - 7 errors

Arky has C/B and 15 errors, I guess that's ok because he made 46 in RL.

Greco, trade me Hack for Tiny Bonham or someone...

 

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