*OFFICIAL* Thread: WIS X and the Cluster of Sim (1 Viewer)

[Koya]

I am open to trading my hitting. I seem to be in need of some quality SP. Dwight Evans is who I would like to trade but am willing to trade Snider if I get a top SP. Evans is raking though so far.

Check me out. I have some guys who are pitching way under where they should (Im talking to you, Spud) and a couple others performing a bit subpar but not terrible when you consider the gravity of offense at my park.Could do straight up or an arm and a decent bat for Snider if it works.Of course, I should be looking for lockdown pitching in lieu of Spud Chandler, but dont see how that will happen.

 

[Doug B]

This version just seems more random than others. You always have players that outperform or underperform - though it mostly evens out to some degree over a season. In addition, there are players who for some reason do better in the SIM than in real life and vice versa... That said, there are some pitchers especially this go around that just seem to be spitting the bit, and I really can't understand why. Their measurables, in SIM terms are good or very good. Some have a good history of SIM performance amongst us, and elsewhere. Others may feel differently, but it seems that there is something going on that is unlike past sims, and I for one can't get a handle on it.

I see exactly the same thing. I wonder if there is an effect from the shallow end of the player pool being so statistically poor relative to the top end.I also wonder about the recent sim engine changes and how they affect team management. I have noticed in one case that a seemingly minor adjustment to one of my pitcher's advanced settings increased his success level markedly. It seems like rest (for batters) and pitch-count per game (for starters) are much more ticky-tack than in past renditions. You've got to be more precise and diligent with the settings, it seems.

 

[Koya]

This version just seems more random than others. You always have players that outperform or underperform - though it mostly evens out to some degree over a season. In addition, there are players who for some reason do better in the SIM than in real life and vice versa... That said, there are some pitchers especially this go around that just seem to be spitting the bit, and I really can't understand why. Their measurables, in SIM terms are good or very good. Some have a good history of SIM performance amongst us, and elsewhere. Others may feel differently, but it seems that there is something going on that is unlike past sims, and I for one can't get a handle on it.

I see exactly the same thing. I wonder if there is an effect from the shallow end of the player pool being so statistically poor relative to the top end.I also wonder about the recent sim engine changes and how they affect team management. I have noticed in one case that a seemingly minor adjustment to one of my pitcher's advanced settings increased his success level markedly. It seems like rest (for batters) and pitch-count per game (for starters) are much more ticky-tack than in past renditions. You've got to be more precise and diligent with the settings, it seems.

I wish the management side could shed more light, but I have never been one to let my starters go particularly far in any of these sims, so pitch count shouldnt much matter.And while I expect more variation because of the pool, it still doesnt explain why so many near or sub 1.0 WHIP guys (again, I dont mean a low whip from a marginal dead ball pitcher) are just sucking tremendously.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Ian why did you leave? I'm still over there if you want to beat me some more.

Gaylord Perry 1974

.204 OAV

1.02 WHIP

2.51 ERA

2.76 BB/9

Gaylord Perry in this SIM

.294 OAV

1.67 WHIP

6.23 ERA

4.15 BB/9

 

[Sammy3469]

This version just seems more random than others. You always have players that outperform or underperform - though it mostly evens out to some degree over a season. In addition, there are players who for some reason do better in the SIM than in real life and vice versa... That said, there are some pitchers especially this go around that just seem to be spitting the bit, and I really can't understand why. Their measurables, in SIM terms are good or very good. Some have a good history of SIM performance amongst us, and elsewhere. Others may feel differently, but it seems that there is something going on that is unlike past sims, and I for one can't get a handle on it.

I see exactly the same thing. I wonder if there is an effect from the shallow end of the player pool being so statistically poor relative to the top end.I also wonder about the recent sim engine changes and how they affect team management. I have noticed in one case that a seemingly minor adjustment to one of my pitcher's advanced settings increased his success level markedly. It seems like rest (for batters) and pitch-count per game (for starters) are much more ticky-tack than in past renditions. You've got to be more precise and diligent with the settings, it seems.

I wish the management side could shed more light, but I have never been one to let my starters go particularly far in any of these sims, so pitch count shouldnt much matter.And while I expect more variation because of the pool, it still doesnt explain why so many near or sub 1.0 WHIP guys (again, I dont mean a low whip from a marginal dead ball pitcher) are just sucking tremendously.

I have a feeling part of it is people are looking at composite stats that looks "good" when one component of those stats is just so bad that it drags the pitcher down. It looks like the acceptable BB/9 rate didn't go up at all and that once that happens a whole lot of "bad" can happen to a pitcher especially if they give up HRs. I also think people have much worse defenses this go around and actually think that's having a pretty large effect. In past sims everyone had good to great defenses (or at least at critical positions) this time, not so much. To put it in some context, my team is averaging almost 3 double plays a game which is erasing a whole bunch of walks and hits....plus my guys aren't giving up any HRs (though that's more a function of the Astrodome). Basically hitting metrics didn't much change while pitching and defense did which produces a whole lot of screwy results.

 

[Kraft...]

Thought this crowd would appreciate this. A challenge was put fourth by a cousin of mine this past weekend at a family party:

Can you name an entire lineup of players with five syllable last names?

I came up with two so far with minimal effort:

mytagid = Math.floor( Math.random() * 100 );document.write("

2B/SS Buddy Biancalana

SS/3B/1B Nomar Garciaparra *** SPOILER ALERT! Click this link to display the potential spoiler text in this box. ***");document.close();

 

[Doug B]

Thought this crowd would appreciate this. A challenge was put fourth by a cousin of mine this past weekend at a family party: Can you name an entire lineup of players with five syllable last names?

The first few long-name guys I thought of didn't qualify:Masanori Murakami (4 syllables)Gerald Saltalamacchia (6)William Van Landingham (4)This is a good brainteaser.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Frank Catalanotto

Tony Conigliaro

Juan Encarnacion

Edwin Encarnacion

 

[oso diablo]

Can you name an entire lineup of players with five syllable last names?

SS Luis Aparicioall i've got so far

 

[Tremendous Upside]

C

1B Nomar Garciaparra

2B Buddy Biancalana

SS Luis Aparicio

3B Edwin Encarnacion

OF Juan Encarnacion

OF Tony Conigliaro

OF

P

 

[oso diablo]

Can you name an entire lineup of players with five syllable last names?

SS Luis Aparicioall i've got so far

OF Angel Echevarria3B Mike Pagliarulo (is that 5?)

 

[Tremendous Upside]

C

1B Nomar Garciaparra

2B Buddy Biancalana

SS Luis Aparicio

3B Edwin Encarnacion

OF Juan Encarnacion

OF Tony Conigliaro

OF Angel Echevarria

P John Candelaria

 

[Kraft...]

Frank Catalanotto

Tony Conigliaro

Juan Encarnacion

Edwin Encarnacion

How did I not get Tony C right away

 

[MrPhoenix]

C Angel Encarnacion

1B Nomar Garciaparra

2B Buddy Biancalana

SS Luis Aparicio

3B Edwin Encarnacion

OF Juan Encarnacion

OF Tony Conigliaro

OF Angel Echevarria

P John Candelaria

Filled.

 

[Kraft...]

well done

 

[MrPhoenix]

Believe it or not, Angel Encarnacion's Baseball Reference page is sponsored:

Bill B. sponsor(s) this page.( You can sponsor a page. Page Expires: 2008-12-28 Alert Me!) I was at this guy's debut game at Busch Stadium on 5/2/95 where he got a pinch single in the 7th. The scoreboard was broken, he wasn't on the scorecard, and the announcer garbled his name. Had no idea who he was then, but he became one of my faves!

 

[oso diablo]

P John Candelaria

and he's on my sim team

 

[MrPhoenix]

I'm dumb.

I was looking at my lineup and I have Damon in against RHP's and Aaron in against LHP's. Both suck terribly. Meanwhile, I have Gil Hodges on my bench and I just learned he has OF elgibility.

pik, 2 GB is as close as you're getting. The bleeding stops now. Hodges has arrived!

 

[MrPhoenix]

Hank Aaron is available for pitching. If you think an offer might offend me, offer it anyway. I'm so desperate to find a remotely decent reliever or possibly a starter that it's come to this.

 

[Koya]

Hank Aaron is available for pitching. If you think an offer might offend me, offer it anyway. I'm so desperate to find a remotely decent reliever or possibly a starter that it's come to this.

Id take aaron back.

 

[Frostillicus]

45 unearned runs given up in 55 games

 

[MrPhoenix]

Hank Aaron is available for pitching. If you think an offer might offend me, offer it anyway. I'm so desperate to find a remotely decent reliever or possibly a starter that it's come to this.

Id take aaron back.

PM sent.

 

[oso diablo]

anyone had a player ejected?

in this afternoon's game against TU, Gene Tenace, my starting catcher, was ejected in the 1st inning for arguing balls & strikes (after he struck out).

any other oddities you've seen in your games (besides the of underperforming pitchers)?

 

[Doug B]

anyone had a player ejected?in this afternoon's game against TU, Gene Tenace, my starting catcher, was ejected in the 1st inning for arguing balls & strikes (after he struck out).any other oddities you've seen in your games (besides the :( of underperforming pitchers)?

Not this season, but in past seasons. First time I've seen it happen for arguing with the ump, though.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

anyone had a player ejected?in this afternoon's game against TU, Gene Tenace, my starting catcher, was ejected in the 1st inning for arguing balls & strikes (after he struck out).any other oddities you've seen in your games (besides the of underperforming pitchers)?

Shameful display by Tenace there Replays show the pitch was clearly a strike as well

 

[Sammy3469]

Tre >>

 

[oso diablo]

Shameful display by Tenace there Replays show the pitch was clearly a strike as well

losing can be frustrating. sometimes you have to kick-start things with a little passion. (didn't work)

 

[oso diablo]

Fergie Jenkins took a no-hitter into the 9th this afternoon. Gave up a leadoff single in the 9th, then was yanked. Pen almost blew the 5 run lead, before Dizzy Dean closed it out, lead down to 1 with runners on 1st and 3rd.

:suttersucks:

 

[Hoos First]

Fergie Jenkins took a no-hitter into the 9th this afternoon. Gave up a leadoff single in the 9th, then was yanked. Pen almost blew the 5 run lead, before Dizzy Dean closed it out, lead down to 1 with runners on 1st and 3rd.:suttersucks:

my team tried to comeback. GG

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Just took two of three from Sparty to move within striking distance of first place in the NL Central (19 games). Again thanks to whomever decided we'd have Koya, RnR, me, and Sparty in the same division. More thanks to those who joined the live league that never play live.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Just took two of three from Sparty to move within striking distance of first place in the NL Central (19 games). Again thanks to whomever decided we'd have Koya, RnR, me, and Sparty in the same division. More thanks to those who joined the live league that never play live.

 

[Greco]

Just took two of three from Sparty to move within striking distance of first place in the NL Central (19 games). Again thanks to whomever decided we'd have Koya, RnR, me, and Sparty in the same division. More thanks to those who joined the live league that never play live.

Quit your #####ing and draft better, #####.

 

[Doug B]

Friggin' Sammy's team is kicking the hell out of my Pelicans. We've managed to stay within 1-3 games all season, but if we can't take a series from Rolled, the division title is out of reach.

 

[oso diablo]

More thanks to those who joined the live league that never play live.

only team not to play live so far in the "live league" is SNC's team. He didn't ask to be put there; the commish needed one more team and decided to put one SNC team in each of the two leagues.Besides that team, the least number of live games played (in the live league) is 21, a mark held by two teams, one of which is Nap's Cleveland Steamers, managed by one dr_detroit.

 

[Hoos First]

More thanks to those who joined the live league that never play live.

only team not to play live so far in the "live league" is SNC's team. He didn't ask to be put there; the commish needed one more team and decided to put one SNC team in each of the two leagues.Besides that team, the least number of live games played (in the live league) is 21, a mark held by two teams, one of which is Nap's Cleveland Steamers, managed by one dr_detroit.

 

[Doug B]

Friggin' Sammy's team is kicking the hell out of my Pelicans. We've managed to stay within 1-3 games all season, but if we can't take a series from Rolled, the division title is out of reach.

Finally got one from Sammy in a 2-1 classic pitching duel. Next game could be more of the same -- the Pelicans' Dazzy Vance (#2 in PL Cy Young race) vs. Rolled's Walter Johnson (#3).

 

[RnR]

Just took two of three from Sparty to move within striking distance of first place in the NL Central (19 games). Again thanks to whomever decided we'd have Koya, RnR, me, and Sparty in the same division. More thanks to those who joined the live league that never play live.

"$11.95 down the drain..."

 

[Doctor Detroit]

More thanks to those who joined the live league that never play live.

only team not to play live so far in the "live league" is SNC's team. He didn't ask to be put there; the commish needed one more team and decided to put one SNC team in each of the two leagues.Besides that team, the least number of live games played (in the live league) is 21, a mark held by two teams, one of which is Nap's Cleveland Steamers, managed by one dr_detroit.

I'm in there a lot waiting for games. Also I was out the first 10 days of the season or so on vacation when people were playing. Now everyone returned to their lives and will never play again.

 

[Sammy3469]

Friggin' Sammy's team is kicking the hell out of my Pelicans. We've managed to stay within 1-3 games all season, but if we can't take a series from Rolled, the division title is out of reach.

Finally got one from Sammy in a 2-1 classic pitching duel. Next game could be more of the same -- the Pelicans' Dazzy Vance (#2 in PL Cy Young race) vs. Rolled's Walter Johnson (#3).

Got two starts out of ol' Walter in that series, so it probably wasn't that fair.

 

[Doug B]

Friggin' Sammy's team is kicking the hell out of my Pelicans. We've managed to stay within 1-3 games all season, but if we can't take a series from Rolled, the division title is out of reach.

Finally got one from Sammy in a 2-1 classic pitching duel. Next game could be more of the same -- the Pelicans' Dazzy Vance (#2 in PL Cy Young race) vs. Rolled's Walter Johnson (#3).

Got two starts out of ol' Walter in that series, so it probably wasn't that fair.

In any case, my team schatte the bed again against your squad. 2-6 on the season so far against Rolled Need help from the rest of the PL to catch up. At least the Pelicans have some breathing room in the WC race.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I'll be sitting in live after 4 pm EST waiting for a game or three.

 

[ianfitzy]

im in live for a bit right now

 

[Koya]

Looking for a blockbuster. Want an ace pitcher if a team has two or three but needs some offense.

Would do Reggie Jackson, or Rickey Henderson plus a pitcher for an ace.

Would consider JIMMY FOXX... yes, MVP Foxx... if I got an ace and a good 1B to replace him (Id be able to put something back in).

Need to shake this up to have any hope.

 

[Spartans Rule]

Slightly surprising development in my staff:

Cy Young 10-9, 3.96

Joe Wood 18-4, 3.03

Eddie Cicotte 18-3, 3.01

Obviously I'd be an idiot to complain about that kind of production, but I didn't figure Cy would lag so far behind the others, especially since he has the best walk rate. His OAV is getting blown up though(.299 now). I almost thought about trading him, but no reason to mess with the success I'm having overall. But the other two guys will be the ones getting the ball when it counts.

My hitting stats are really weird. Don't even want to get into that.

 

[Kraft...]

Jack Fournier .355/.429/.548 Available for a pitcher that can get an out, this bullpen situation is beyond rediculous

 

[Doug B]

Jack Fournier .355/.429/.548 Available for a pitcher that can get an out, this bullpen situation is beyond rediculous

Preach on ... even with drafting/rolling great stats from Billy Wagner in the 4th ( ). Dude's ERA is pushing 6.00 :(

 

[MrPhoenix]

Just got swept by Truffle Shuffle. Didn't score a run in the 3-game series and lost two back-to-back games 1-0.

This sim continues to suck worse and worse. Mathewson has an ERA near 5, my bullpen is being spearheaded by Sid Fernandez and **** Radatz, and now apparently I can't generate any offense.

This next grouping of words comes from Bob Costas' book "Fair Ball":

"Somewhere past midnight, during the commercial break accompanying yet another pitching change, my partner Bob Uecker stared out into the night and said to no one in particular, "This game sucks!" "

 

[Koya]

Most Random SIM yet? What say ye who have seen at least 3-5 of these...

 

[Koya]

And why wont people even talk trade?

 

[Greco]

Most Random SIM yet? What say ye who have seen at least 3-5 of these...

Seems very very random.Mickey Lolich and Dean Chance have performed beyond expectations. Cobb is :money:Hack Wilson BLOWS!!!!! I can't figure out how I have his all time greatest season and Ted Kluzewski is out performing him.