***Official Titans 2010 Draft Thread*** (1 Viewer)

[Matt Waldman]

Round 1: DE Derrick Morgan, Georgia Tech

Round 3: WR Damien Williams, USC

OLB Rennie Curran, UGA



Gotta say, I like it!

Morgan could be the best DE in this class despite Pierre Paul's upside. Williams is one of the best technicians at the position. Curran is a smart player. Won't likely be as good as Bulluck was, but he'll work out well.

 

[vandyt]

Was hoping for Shipley rather than Williams. With Gage likely moving on next year, addressing the slot was a bigger long-term need than Williams, IMO. Can't complain about it either way though...both were on the board way too long.

Love Morgan, glad Pierre-Paul didn't fall. Dont see the need for gambling on Paul's upside when Morgan looks like a lock to be a 10 year pro.

Glad they addressed LB depth, and glad they chose Curran.

I somewhat wanted them to go after LeFevour with the 2nd 3rd rounder....they need a QB to develop into a backup, and its not Simms.

 

[Matt Waldman]

Was hoping for Shipley rather than Williams. With Gage likely moving on next year, addressing the slot was a bigger long-term need than Williams, IMO. Can't complain about it either way though...both were on the board way too long.Love Morgan, glad Pierre-Paul didn't fall. Dont see the need for gambling on Paul's upside when Morgan looks like a lock to be a 10 year pro. Glad they addressed LB depth, and glad they chose Curran. I somewhat wanted them to go after LeFevour with the 2nd 3rd rounder....they need a QB to develop into a backup, and its not Simms.

I'm glad they waited on QB, still decent players to find who can start. Might still find a CB and could use a better RB than Ringer or White to back up Johnson, too. Few complaints. They could also find another receiver in this class that works out for them.

 

[vandyt]

Was hoping for Shipley rather than Williams. With Gage likely moving on next year, addressing the slot was a bigger long-term need than Williams, IMO. Can't complain about it either way though...both were on the board way too long.Love Morgan, glad Pierre-Paul didn't fall. Dont see the need for gambling on Paul's upside when Morgan looks like a lock to be a 10 year pro. Glad they addressed LB depth, and glad they chose Curran. I somewhat wanted them to go after LeFevour with the 2nd 3rd rounder....they need a QB to develop into a backup, and its not Simms.

I'm glad they waited on QB, still decent players to find who can start. Might still find a CB and could use a better RB than Ringer or White to back up Johnson, too. Few complaints. They could also find another receiver in this class that works out for them.

I'm not sure what I think about them at CB. I think they need help at the position, but I don't think they need it through the draft. With Mouton and McCourty, they really need another veteran (Hood is fine, but is he for sure at least a nickel?) and not another rookie.In rounds 4-7, I hope the do the following:QB - Draft a Qb to develop. LeFevour, Kafka, Skelton, whoever. No more going year to year with retreads...I don't trust Vince to be the long-term solution at the position (more to do with his mental makeup than ability).KR-PR - Get someone who can RETURN KICKS. Hell, draft Trindon Holliday if you have to...if they do nothing else but return kicks thats fine. They can't have another year where the punt return team goes out on the field just hoping to catch the punt. Maybe Gilyard or Ford?LB - Another LB who can play special teams. Theres only 4 LBs on the roster (with Curran) who belong on an NFL roster right now...unless they plan on bringing back Bulluck (or even if they do) they need another LB for depth who can cover kicks. I'm a big Eric Norwood fan...would be an interesting fit. AJ Edds would work toG/C - Need more depth along the interior of the line. Chris Scott from UT?

 

[Stewy]

I must say, as a huge Georgia Tech and Texans fan, I am mighty conflicted.

I guess I've had practice with Matt Harpring being a Jazz, but he wasn't nearly as intergral as Morgan. RIP Morgan fandom, you are now the enemy.

 

[jwinston2]

So Far I give it a B+ and I think Williams was very good value, this video says it all about him.

 

[Abraham]

I like the draft so far. Got to get a kick returner and a corner that can contribute. But I love the Morgan pick. Williams could be a nice find and while I agree that slot was a more pressing need, I'll take a young quality outside guy to pair with Britt at this point. I don't know much about the LB, but it was clearly an area of need.

If they can get a KR, CB, and perhaps a QB today then I'll be pleased.

 

[Matt Waldman]

Alterraun Verner of UCLA is a nice pick. He played on a horrible team, but he's a fine pick. I like this one too.

 

[The Captain]

Can we expect Dwyer, Blount or Dixon to replace LedDale?

 

[Matt Waldman]

Wish they got Dixon, but SF got him. Not liking the Rusty Smith pick considering there were better players on the board at his position. Still if he can develop a new release (throws it like a pitcher) he might surprise. Doubt it though.

 

[Matt Waldman]

Wish they got Dixon, but SF got him. Not liking the Rusty Smith pick considering there were better players on the board at his position. Still if he can develop a new release (throws it like a pitcher) he might surprise. Doubt it though.

The possibility of Blount or Dwyer is appealing. Joique Bell would be a good one too.

 

[Titans_fan]

Does the drafting of Myron Rolle change your outlook? I know he's smart, but what are the chances he sticks with the team?

 

[Matt Waldman]

Does the drafting of Myron Rolle change your outlook? I know he's smart, but what are the chances he sticks with the team?

Love it. Rolle is smart and athletic enough. He'll only get better. I think the chances are great that he sticks and fair that he eventually starts.

 

[jwinston2]

Can we expect Dwyer, Blount or Dixon to replace LedDale?

I think Javon Ringer will be replacing LenDale. The Titans like Ringer a lot.

 

[Matt Waldman]

Marc Mariani? He better be a lot better than Blair White who is still on the board...

 

[jwinston2]

Marc Mariani? He better be a lot better than Blair White who is still on the board...

Well he had one
at least.

 

[Matt Waldman]

Marc Mariani? He better be a lot better than Blair White who is still on the board...

Well he had one

Yep. Can't argue that!

 

[jwinston2]

With our signing of UDFA Stafon Johnson, I think the Titans had a good draft overall. I question the Marc Mariani and David Howard picks but since both are seventh round it is hard to complain. It seems like they focused on high character/immediate impact players this year which imo is always a good strategy.

 

[enfuego]

Titans also just stole Legarrette Blount, RB from Oregon, from the 49ers, where he originally agreed to a deal...

 

[Bri]

Hey Matt isn't Kevin Matthews OL that they signed from A&M Bruce's son?

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

Hey Matt isn't Kevin Matthews OL that they signed from A&M Bruce's son?

Yes, he is.

 

[Bri]

Hey Matt isn't Kevin Matthews OL that they signed from A&M Bruce's son?

Yes, he is.

Bet he sticks then. Good luck betting against that family working hard enough to win over a coach

 

[Abraham]

Does the drafting of Myron Rolle change your outlook? I know he's smart, but what are the chances he sticks with the team?

Love it. Rolle is smart and athletic enough. He'll only get better. I think the chances are great that he sticks and fair that he eventually starts.

This is the absolute other side of the spectrum. "Character concerns" make players drop, but being a Rhodes Scholar makes you drop too? Rolle hasn't played football in a year, so its understandable that he wasnt a high pick. He was ESPN's top HS prospect in the country the year he went to FSU, he was a 3rd team All American in 2008, and he clearly has his head on straight. I wouldn't be the LEAST bit shocked to see him starting by Halloween.As for the rest of the draft, I thought the team took a few project on day 2, but the help in the secondary (a huge need) should pay dividends early. No idea on Rusty Smith, but he holds the ball high, has good size, and appears to have a relatively short/quick release. THere isn't much tape out there that I can find, but I imagine he'll be a long term project.

 

[Bri]

No idea on Rusty Smith, but he holds the ball high, has good size, and appears to have a relatively short/quick release. THere isn't much tape out there that I can find, but I imagine he'll be a long term project.

Camp arm since they signed Chris Simms and even he is not likely to be on the roster if they continue to keep just 2 QBs as they have been doing.

 

[Abraham]

No idea on Rusty Smith, but he holds the ball high, has good size, and appears to have a relatively short/quick release. THere isn't much tape out there that I can find, but I imagine he'll be a long term project.

Camp arm since they signed Chris Simms and even he is not likely to be on the roster if they continue to keep just 2 QBs as they have been doing.

I think COllins is the odd man out. Plus they carried three QBs two years ago (Simms, Collins, VY) and 3 years ago (Rattay, Collins, Young) IIRC.

 

[vandyt]

Really like the draft overall. Still would have liked Shipley or Gilyard over Williams, but thats nitpicking.

Jared Cook is basically our 2nd rounder since he didnt do anything this past year and we paid for it with this year's second rounder. If he comes around, this will be an excellent draft. Hopefully hes not Ben Troupe 2.0.

 

[Aardvarks]

Overall, it was a typical ho-hum draft for Tennessee. We sorta reverted back to our old ways:

1) Grab the most technically sound, best available defensive player we can get, preferably a lineman. (Derrick Morgan)

2) Take a bargain-bin WR or two in rounds 3 & 4 and watch him disappear by his 3rd season. (Damian Williams)

3) Be sure and pass on a 2nd/3rd-round stud QB & WR when all of Nashville is screaming, "Take him!".... (passing on Colt McCoy & WRs Brandon LaFell, Eric Decker?).

4) Of course we didn't have a 2nd-round pick because we gave it away last year to move up and take TE Jared Cook. Too bad, the 2nd round was *deep* this year.

5) Signing RB LeGarrette Blount (undrafted) was interesting. Then again, he has to make the 53 first. Will he give 110% on special teams?

6) Then for the cherry on top we *donated* LenDale White & DT Kevin Vickerson, like the Seahawks were a homeless man behind our stadium. We didn't *get* a 4th & 6th round pick for those two players -- we only switched spots with Seattle and moved up 6 spots in those two rounds. Baffling.

 

[vandyt]

6) Then for the cherry on top we *donated* LenDale White & DT Kevin Vickerson, like the Seahawks were a homeless man behind our stadium. We didn't *get* a 4th & 6th round pick for those two players -- we only switched spots with Seattle and moved up 6 spots in those two rounds. Baffling.

Better than cutting them. They essentially got the combined value of a 6th rounder, which I think if fair for White. White wasn't coming back...as an impending FA who thinks hes alot better than he is, he just would have been a locker room problem. CJ is more than capable of scoring in the RZ, and White doesn't play ST. In the middle of the field, White doesn't do anything better than Javon Ringer will. A scarecrow could run routes with more enthusiasm than White does.

Vickerson is just a guy.

 

[Aardvarks]

6) Then for the cherry on top we *donated* LenDale White & DT Kevin Vickerson, like the Seahawks were a homeless man behind our stadium. We didn't *get* a 4th & 6th round pick for those two players -- we only switched spots with Seattle and moved up 6 spots in those two rounds. Baffling.

Better than cutting them. They essentially got the combined value of a 6th rounder, which I think if fair for White. White wasn't coming back...as an impending FA who thinks hes alot better than he is, he just would have been a locker room problem. CJ is more than capable of scoring in the RZ, and White doesn't play ST. In the middle of the field, White doesn't do anything better than Javon Ringer will. A scarecrow could run routes with more enthusiasm than White does.

Vickerson is just a guy.

No the smart thing to do - since no one would bite on LenDale leading up to draft - is hold onto him (no Roster or Option bonus due) and wait for mini-camp/training camp RB injuries to strike around the league, then trade White to a needy team for a 2011 4th or 5th. You don't give away a former 1000-yd rusher. Vickerson? A popular team player who has upside. Tennessee just donated 2 very viable players to Pete Carroll. It was like Jeff gave Pete the Fellow USC Buddy discount. Ridiculous.

With drafting and trading, it's about the little things. Pitt and NE do them well. We don't.

 

[jwinston2]

Overall, it was a typical ho-hum draft for Tennessee. We sorta reverted back to our old ways:

1) Grab the most technically sound, best available defensive player we can get, preferably a lineman. (Derrick Morgan)

2) Take a bargain-bin WR or two in rounds 3 & 4 and watch him disappear by his 3rd season. (Damian Williams)

3) Be sure and pass on a 2nd/3rd-round stud QB & WR when all of Nashville is screaming, "Take him!".... (passing on Colt McCoy & WRs Brandon LaFell, Eric Decker?).

4) Of course we didn't have a 2nd-round pick because we gave it away last year to move up and take TE Jared Cook. Too bad, the 2nd round was *deep* this year.

5) Signing RB LeGarrette Blount (undrafted) was interesting. Then again, he has to make the 53 first. Will he give 110% on special teams?

6) Then for the cherry on top we *donated* LenDale White & DT Kevin Vickerson, like the Seahawks were a homeless man behind our stadium. We didn't *get* a 4th & 6th round pick for those two players -- we only switched spots with Seattle and moved up 6 spots in those two rounds. Baffling.

Wow so negative and I completely disagree with your opinion.1) Great Pick, should have an immediate impact

2) Damian Williams is not a bargain-bin WR, he will have an immediate impact in punt returns, something we desperately needed.

3) No one in Nashville that I know was screaming take a WR or QB, really this is just silly and was not a need position for the team. We did however take a a great LB in Rennie Curran, FS in Robert Johnson, and CB in Alterraun Verner all needs.

4) Jared Cook is better than any TE available in the 2nd Round this year, I am fine with him being our second plus he now has 1 year of experience

5) We also signed S. Johnson and still have J. Ringer, we are deep at RB and did not have a need for LenDale anymore.

6) I did not like the trade, but it was known that L. White has been up on the block for a while and no one wanted him, when he has no value you cannot expect a lot for him.

This was far from a typical draft for the Titans, they mostly drafted players that should contribute from the start with high intelligence/character. This draft seemed more like a Patriots draft than a Titans one.

 

[Abraham]

6) Then for the cherry on top we *donated* LenDale White & DT Kevin Vickerson, like the Seahawks were a homeless man behind our stadium. We didn't *get* a 4th & 6th round pick for those two players -- we only switched spots with Seattle and moved up 6 spots in those two rounds. Baffling.

Better than cutting them. They essentially got the combined value of a 6th rounder, which I think if fair for White. White wasn't coming back...as an impending FA who thinks hes alot better than he is, he just would have been a locker room problem. CJ is more than capable of scoring in the RZ, and White doesn't play ST. In the middle of the field, White doesn't do anything better than Javon Ringer will. A scarecrow could run routes with more enthusiasm than White does.

Vickerson is just a guy.

No the smart thing to do - since no one would bite on LenDale leading up to draft - is hold onto him (no Roster or Option bonus due) and wait for mini-camp/training camp RB injuries to strike around the league, then trade White to a needy team for a 2011 4th or 5th. You don't give away a former 1000-yd rusher. Vickerson? A popular team player who has upside. Tennessee just donated 2 very viable players to Pete Carroll. It was like Jeff gave Pete the Fellow USC Buddy discount. Ridiculous.

With drafting and trading, it's about the little things. Pitt and NE do them well. We don't.

Disagree. Teams have very detailed plans for the coming season and White/Vickerson did not factor in. Sure, they could have been held on to til camp but the gains realized would have been negligible. I think (hope) that the Titans got 4 immediate contributors in Morgan, Williams, Curren, and Rolle. Better to move forward on your plan as fast as possible then to wait wait wait for a hair more value. And i agree Cook was better then all but one TE in this draft, so I'm good with them using the pick to get him last year.

 

[No Way Jose]

Titans picked up Mico Mcswain from North Alabama as a FA.....Mico is a baller who once set the total yardage in a game record at Ole Miss. He could be a great punt returner.

!

 

[vandyt]

6) Then for the cherry on top we *donated* LenDale White & DT Kevin Vickerson, like the Seahawks were a homeless man behind our stadium. We didn't *get* a 4th & 6th round pick for those two players -- we only switched spots with Seattle and moved up 6 spots in those two rounds. Baffling.

Better than cutting them. They essentially got the combined value of a 6th rounder, which I think if fair for White. White wasn't coming back...as an impending FA who thinks hes alot better than he is, he just would have been a locker room problem. CJ is more than capable of scoring in the RZ, and White doesn't play ST. In the middle of the field, White doesn't do anything better than Javon Ringer will. A scarecrow could run routes with more enthusiasm than White does.

Vickerson is just a guy.

No the smart thing to do - since no one would bite on LenDale leading up to draft - is hold onto him (no Roster or Option bonus due) and wait for mini-camp/training camp RB injuries to strike around the league, then trade White to a needy team for a 2011 4th or 5th. You don't give away a former 1000-yd rusher. Vickerson? A popular team player who has upside. Tennessee just donated 2 very viable players to Pete Carroll. It was like Jeff gave Pete the Fellow USC Buddy discount. Ridiculous.

With drafting and trading, it's about the little things. Pitt and NE do them well. We don't.

Going to respond to the two bolded points:1) Sure you do...being a 1000 yard rusher is not remarkable in this league, especially in the manner which Lendale White did it. Being given 300 carries to only get 1100 yards is poor production...a reflection of them having no one better to give the ball to and his durability. Not sure trying to get better value than what they did is worth the risk of him sustaining any type of injury and owing him his $1.8 mil salary for this year.

2) They obviously didn't fit into the Titans' plans, and I would refuse to believe they didnt shop either of them to other teams. They got what they were able to get. Vickerson wasn't going to make the final cut unless there was an injury along the DL in camp. White's salary was $1.2 million more than what they're paying Ringer, and $1.5 million more than what Blount or Johnson will make as a 3rd stringer.

 

[Bri]

No idea on Rusty Smith, but he holds the ball high, has good size, and appears to have a relatively short/quick release. THere isn't much tape out there that I can find, but I imagine he'll be a long term project.

Camp arm since they signed Chris Simms and even he is not likely to be on the roster if they continue to keep just 2 QBs as they have been doing.

I think COllins is the odd man out. Plus they carried three QBs two years ago (Simms, Collins, VY) and 3 years ago (Rattay, Collins, Young) IIRC.

It's been two until an injury or til Young "lost it".ITYM Ramsey not Rattay

 

[Weapon of Mass Instruction]

No idea on Rusty Smith, but he holds the ball high, has good size, and appears to have a relatively short/quick release. THere isn't much tape out there that I can find, but I imagine he'll be a long term project.

Camp arm since they signed Chris Simms and even he is not likely to be on the roster if they continue to keep just 2 QBs as they have been doing.

I think COllins is the odd man out. Plus they carried three QBs two years ago (Simms, Collins, VY) and 3 years ago (Rattay, Collins, Young) IIRC.

If Collins agrees to reduce his salary, he'll be back this year. If so, then Simms is out and Smith is in.

 

[Aardvarks]

Look, it really comes down to this: The Titans draft was not a success for one reason and one reason only... They didn't address the quarterback position.

Vince is not a leader and not a Super Bowl quarterback (cue the thread-hijacking here, sorry about that).

Sure, Vince came in at midseason, made a few plays, mostly handed off to the league's premier yardage-generator, and won a bunch of games vs. St. Louis, Buffalo, Jacksonville and San Francisco... But those inside the organization, and those connected, know Vince is not the man. Only the owner is in the dark.

What was the risk in selecting Colt McCoy late in the 3rd? No signing bonus, no downside. He's only the winningest college QB ever. Who cares if he's not 6'4?

Yeah, they might have pulled 3-4 "immediate contributors" out of this draft (though 2 is more realistic) but it doesn't matter as long as a flake is taking snaps under center.

Rusty Smith? Practice squads for Tennessee, St. Louis, and Miami over the next 2 years-- then we forget he ever existed.

Morgan should be a good player, maybe great- and he better be, because if he doesn't notch 7-8+ sacks in a starting role then you're looking at a pile-of-poop draft. The Colts own the division, the Texans are pushing hard, and until we have a leader at QB our 10+ win days will slide further and further in the rear view mirror.

Colt McCoy in the 3rd. Remember that one when he's making plays for Cleveland in 2011.

 

[Bri]

thoughts now?

Mariani? and some others have similarly made excellent first impressions.

Who knows with Mariani. That said, who is really in his way here that he can't find some playing time?

Now, I think Rusty goes to PS and Simms is elsewhere. It might be more of a roster space decision than a "best player" choice. Gotta remember that teams are rarely ever winning if they are onto their 3rd QB.