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***Official Trump 2/28/17 Congressional Address Thread*** (1 Viewer)

He pandered and exploited her.  There was a nice moment..but come on with that line.  That you all can't even criticize that is very telling.
Criticize President Trump for recognizing the ultimate sacrifice by Ryan Owens? That is very telling.

 
He pandered and exploited her.  There was a nice moment..but come on with that line.  That you all can't even criticize that is very telling.
The left would never attempt such a move... :rolleyes:   Maybe Don is starting to learn how to play politics.

 
He pandered and exploited her.  There was a nice moment..but come on with that line.  That you all can't even criticize that is very telling.
As he was saying it my eyebrows went up a little. Then the camera hit her and she had a genuine smile. It was fine

 
The left would never attempt such a move... :rolleyes:   Maybe Don is starting to learn how to play politics.
The left may.  Can you name a specific time the left used something like the line about a dead serviceman being happy he got a long ovation (as if being critical of Trump is a sign of a hardcore leftist...)?

I can point out to you that others have honored people without such a line.  I can tell you that others did also use them for political props and I've never liked that.  And if they have used such lines they should never have.  It's a line that stuck out and some can't even be critical of even that.

 
Can someone quote Squistion's best retweets of the night for me here?
It is hard to choose, there are so many candidates to pick from, so here is one from this morning instead:

David Frum‏Verified account @davidfrum 3h3 hours ago

Pundit: “Doubts about Donald Trump have been quelled now that he has delivered

an hour-long speech without jamming a pen into anyone’s eye."

 
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/321747-bill-maher-trump-speech-will-fool-a-lot-of-people

Bill Maher: Trump speech ‘will fool a lot of people’

HBO’s Bill Maher says President Trump’s first address to a joint session of Congress will "fool" many Americans into thinking he is a "normal person."

“It’s teleprompter Trump,” Maher said late Tuesday on MSNBC’s “Hardball." "Every president, to a degree, talks out of two sides of their mouths, but this guy is on a level beyond what anybody has seen.”

“I think the bad thing is it will fool a lot of people,” the host of HBO’s “Real Time” continued. "[Trump might seem] like a fairly reasonable guy, too right-wing for me, but a normal person.”

Maher added Trump’s speech was a departure from the president’s typical behavior, which worries him.

“The problem isn’t the policy,” he told MSNBC’s Chris Matthews via phone. "It’s the personality. This is what worries me and most Americans.

“You can’t have somebody who is diagnosable like this with the narcissism and all the rest of it and think that it is going to come out well for us. Somebody who sees things that aren’t there.”

Trump struck a softer tone during his speech Tuesday night, telling Congress “the time for trivial fights is over” as he sought to settle jitters following his administration's first month.

“We just need the courage to share the dreams that fill our hearts, the bravery to express the hopes that still our souls and the confidence to turn those hopes and dreams into action,” he said.

 
http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/tv-ratings-donald-trump-first-address-congress-obama-1201999788/

Trump’s First Address to Congress Draws Smaller Audience Than Obama’s First Address

UPDATED: President Donald Trump delivered his first speech to a joint session of Congress Tuesday evening, and while the pundit class may be heaping praise on the performance, the hourlong address failed to draw the same kind of audience as his predecessor did in his first such outing.

According to Nielsen’s final official tally, Trump’s speech drew 47.74 million viewers from approximately 9 to 10:15 p.m. across 11 networks. Those 11 networks counted by Nielsen were ABC, CBS, Fox, NBC, Univision, PBS, CNN, Fox Business Network, Fox News Channel, MSNBC, and NBC Universo.

President Obama’s first address pulled in an audience of 52.37 million people across the four broadcast networks, Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, Telemundo, and Univision — a difference of about 9%. The audience for President George W. Bush’s first address, at 39.79 million, was overshadowed by the State of the Union Address he delivered in 2003, which brought in 62.06 million viewers.

While many outlets streamed Trump’s speech, live streaming tends to be additive to big live events like this, the Super Bowl, the Oscars, and the Grammys — average viewership is generally not more than a couple percent (at most) of the TV audience. Outlets that live stream these events seldom release viewership figures that are analogous to TV ratings, choosing instead to focus on number of unique visitors or number of streams started. TV ratings measure the average minute audience — the average number of people watching each minute of a program.

 
I thought it was interesting that pretty much he first thing did in the speech is discuss attacks on Jews and minorities in this country in recent weeks and condemn it all to a round of applause from BOTH sides of the aisle.  I'd say the rise of Nazi sentiment is real and is of concern to everyone.

Tonight, as we mark the conclusion of our celebration of Black History Month, we are reminded of our Nation's path toward civil rights and the work that still remains. Recent threats targeting Jewish Community Centers and vandalism of Jewish cemeteries, as well as last week's shooting in Kansas City, remind us that while we may be a Nation divided on policies, we are a country that stands united in condemning hate and evil in all its forms.
However, this is probably the worst way of handling the issue.

Let's rewind the clock to the 1992 election and Perot.  There is this sudden popular movement to fix the federal debt.  People begin to view Perot as a champion.  All of this catches the establishment off guard.  Perot is threatening to upend the system.  So both parties adopt debt reduction as part of their platform and that effectively destroys Perot and his movement.  

But what if they had instead done what Trump, republicans and democrats just did in the speech to congress?  What if they simply tried to show a unified front against a populist wave?  What if president Bush got up and said debt is healthy for a growing country and attempts to reduce it are dangerous and members of both houses of congress stood up and cheered?  Its clear what would have happened next.  Perot would take that video and use it as an extremely effective recruiting tool.  He would assert that the establishment does not share the concerns of you the people regarding debt and this video is proof that they are out of step.  He would swell his ranks.

So, in modern America, in 2017, a large percentage of middle class whites are growing increasingly skeptical that the democrat party is simply outright RACIST against white people.  They may not have been totally convinced but they are deeply concerned.  Every day, more people are converting into nazis.  Now, Trump gives THAT speech and both parties show a unified front.  What do you think is going happen next?  David Duke and people like him are going to use that as a recruitment tool.  He going to assert that BOTH parties, even Trump, is more concerned about playing identity politics and pandering to minorities instead of making sure whites don't feel disenfranchised.  

The problem just got a lot worse.

If you wanted to kill the Nazi movement and neuter David Duke, you would have said something like identity politics is wrong and we need to all just be americans instead.  That would take his power away.  But what happened in that speech is clearly the wrong move.

 
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If Trump is FDR, this nazi movement is his Huey P. Long.  FDR called Long his greatest political opponent, and FDR fended off Long by tacking to the Left and taking issues away from Long.  Trump needs to strategically tack to the right to take issues away from the nazi movement, only he just went to the left instead in that speech.  That's a mistake.

 

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