Official/Unofficial 3rd Pick Thread (PPR) (1 Viewer)

[randomposter]

What do you guys think? The conventional wisdom, naturally, is to go with an RB in Rd 1. Who are your top 3-4 backs? Are you worried about CJ's holdout? Can you count on Foster? Do you still like Ray Rice, despite the Ricky signing? Can you really pass up AP if he falls to you? What do you guys think?

Has anyone started thinking about Rounds two and three?

I will add my thoughts, but first I wanted to hear from you guys.

 

[randomposter]

Ok, I'll start.

I believe, as do you many of you, that you can't win with your first pick, but you certainly can lose with it. Therefore, I would like to minimize my risk with this pick. I would certainly like a "high ceiling", but I don't want, under any circumstances, a "low floor". I view AP as the safest of the RBs. He has consistently performed, no matter the WR corps or the QB. He is a consistent TD producer. And, while he doesn't catch as many balls as some of the other choices, neither is he absent from the passing game (and you have the obligatory "We need to get him more involved in the passing game." comments from McNabb and the coaching staff. After this, I am very torn. I guess I would go Foster, next. Surely, he won't repeat his numbers from last year. But even a 20% drop in production would still be acceptable. I am worried about the hammy (I know it's early). And I am worried that he lost a stud fullback. But he is fairly safe, so long as you aren't counting on a repeat of last year. Next I would go CJ. But this is where I really start worrying. No talent around him. New coaching staff and QB. Possibility of prolonged holdout. Gold teeth. Etc. Ray Rice is next. High floor/high ceiling, in my opinion. Baltimore looks like they are going to have to be run-heavy, this year. I don't think Ricky should take away too much production, though Rice doesn't figure to be a big TD guy. But he catches lots of balls, and unless he gets hurt, he should easily be in the top 5 or 6 backs. I view McCoy and Charles as the next best guys. I would take Charles, I guess. I am nervous, given the way he is used (not used) at times. But he has the kind of "go off" potential that could be instrumental in you winning your league. I think McCoy is the safer choice. But I don't see McCoy single-handedly winning you anything.

Thoughts?

 

[DerwoodG]

If AP falls to the 3 spot, he's mine. AF would also be gobbled up at that spot. CJ is worring me with 1) the hold-out, 2) new coaching staff, and 3) new QB. Hard to predict how things will go for the Titans this year. Ray Rice is looking real good even with Ricky in the picture. Beyond that, #3 is kind of a tough spot to draft from this year.

 

[kneeshooter]

If I'm looking to minimize risk I'm putting Ray Rice right behind AP. Makes up for the TDs w/receptions and the addition of Leach as fullback is a major plus. If those two are gone I would go CJ.

What are you thinking for Rd 2? In my twelve team I'd love to grab SJax as my RB2 - I see a drop off after him in Hillis/Matthews/Turner. Probably go VJax or Austin if he's gone.

 

[randomposter]

I also like VJax. But I am hoping to get him in the 3rd.

In the second round, I am likely to also go WR, unless either Rivers or Brady is there. I get that there are at least 7 good QBs and several more "serviceable" ones. But in my league, the QBs go fast. And I would rather have elite production than musical chairs at QB. The reason I am likely to skip RB in the second is the number of serviceable backs I expect will still be there for me in the 4th. I expect at least one of the following to still be there: Blount, Shonn Greene, Moreno, Ingram. Whereas, if you wait 'til the fourth for WRs, you're looking at some "feast or famine"-type guys.

 

[brainee]

In a 12-team 0.5 PPR league (start QB, 2 RBs, 2 WRs, R/W flex, TE, K, DEF) I just found out I'm picking 3rd. So I went looking for this thread! I guess the good thing is that the 1st round is pretty straight-forward - you get the best RB on the board. Which for me will be one of: Foster, AP, CJ, or Rice (in that order). It's not out of the realm of possibility that a QB gets taken ahead of you, so you may have to choose between 3 of them. The more I hear about Rice and CJ, though, the closer I am to switching them in the rankings.

The 2nd and 3rd rounds are giving me more thought, and will really set the makeup of your squad. I'm really unsure of how the draft will unfold, since 0.5 PPR is kind of intermediate. I've never played with these settings and this group so I don't know what to expect. Sometimes you'll see the other managers not really pay attention to special scoring (like PPR) and draft according to regular ADPs. Sometimes they'll stick really close to the Yahoo default rankings. And sometimes you'll find yourself swimming with sharks and needing to be on your "A" game. What lists do you guys look at to get an idea of ADP? The numbers I see at different sites can be vastly difference (Yahoo, ESPN, FBG, etc).

Anyway, round 2 (2.10; 22nd overall): Feels too early to take a QB, unless a miracle happen and Rodgers or Vick drops. Though if QBs have been going fast (5 taken by this point), I'll give thought to it. Otherwise, it'll be be RB2 or WR1. Let's consider RBs that could be there. Looking at a few mocks and ADP lists these are guys we might be seeing: Forte, SJax, Gore, Hillis, Turner. Forte, SJax, or Gore being on the board would likely push me to taking them. At WR, if any of the top 5 (AJ, CJ, Roddy, Fitz, Nicks) are the on the board I don't think you can pass them up. But that's doubtful, so more realistically you're looking at the next tier (VJax, Austin, Wallace, DJax, Wayne, Bowe, Jennings). I don't know ... it feels early for any of them here to me.

Round 3 (3.0; 27th overall) is kind of an extension of round 2 (being so close to the turn). But the decisions are tougher since you'll have to suffer through 18 opponent picks before your next shot - if you pass on a borderline guy here, you probably won't get them. It's probably the last chance to get a top 6 QB. I know lots of advice guides are highlighting on Romo as a guy to target a round or two later. But you're playing a game of chicken to chance that (and your opponents are probably reading the same articles). How important is having a top 7 QB? RB possibilities open up a little - Bradshaw becomes a guy worth thinking about if you want him.

What will be there in the 4th/5th (46th and 51st overall)? If you want Romo, you'll have to go for it here. If Romo's gone and I need a QB, I'm waiting until later (Ben, Freeman, Stafford?). If you want an elite TE (Clark, Finley, Witten, Gates) you have to get one here. RB options could be Ingram, Moreno, Blount, Greene. WR options, looking at Yahoo ADPs could include Dez, Maclin (maybe not with the mystery illness, but if he's good to go he could be a steal in PPR), Lloyd, Marshall, Welker, Colston.

I'll have to mock this some and see what happens. At least with #3, we know we start with a stud RB and work from there. And going into each turn we can have a single approach for what we want to do, and use 2 picks to address it. There are a lot of ways it could go. Playing with DD's mocking (PPR expert ADP for the other team's drafting), none of the RBs or WRs I was hoping for drop to me in the 2nd. It's either: Hillis at RB (though he lasts until my next pick if I skip him), Brady/Brees/Manning/Rivers at QB (one of the 4 will last until 3rd round), or the next tier of WRs (most of which are there for the 3rd as well).

Taking QB and Hillis at the turn gave me a team like: QB-Brady; RB-CJ/Hillis/FredJackson; WR-Welker/Lloyd/Manningham; TE-Gronkowski

A WR (and top TE) approach (RB/WR/WR) gives me: QB-Stafford/Kolb (Romo didn't make it to the 4th); RB-CJ/FelixJones/FredJackson; WR-VJax/Austin/Manningham; TE-Witten (could've had Finley too)

WR and QB at 2/3 gives me: QB-Brady; RB-Rice/Best/FredJackson; WR-Austin/Lloyd/Manningham; TE-Gronkowski

Finally, RB and WR at 2/3: QB-Freeman; RB-CJ/Hillis/FredJackson; WR-VJax/Lloyd/MikeThomas; TE-Finley

Fred Jackson seems to keep finding his way on these mocks. Though he does seem to provide great PPR RB3 value for his round (7/8). If you want to imagine a better RB3, you could always replace Lloyd's or the premium TE's spot (4/5 turn). So you'd be looking at guys like Green, DWill, Best, Ingram, Grant, FelixJones, Benson.

Computer mocking is limited, but it does give me some things to think about. I could feel good about any of the above teams - and that's without having any other managers do anything crazy/stupid.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

If I'm looking to minimize risk I'm putting Ray Rice right behind AP. Makes up for the TDs w/receptions and the addition of Leach as fullback is a major plus. If those two are gone I would go CJ.What are you thinking for Rd 2? In my twelve team I'd love to grab SJax as my RB2 - I see a drop off after him in Hillis/Matthews/Turner. Probably go VJax or Austin if he's gone.

I am drafting 2nd tomorrow and those are my Rice/Peterson are my choices. (My order for them changes hourly though. )I agree on Round 2 and, my one later spot than the 3rd pick makes it even more likely I'll miss both Jacksons. I usually wait on QBs, but might take Rivers if they are both gone.

 

[brainee]

I've been doing a number of live mocks (on Yahoo) - #3 pick in a 12 teamer. The mock settings are limited to: no PPR, start QB, 2 RBs, 3 WRs, TE/K/DEF (and 6 bench). My personal league is a little different: 0.5 PPR, 100 yard and 300 yard bonuses (for RBs/WRs and QBs respectively). And with the 3rd WR starting spot replaced with a R/W flex. Despite the 0.5 PPR, these settings still suggest that RB value is increased (and calculated VBDs from DD strongly agree).

Anyway, the first pick has to be a RB. If AP or Foster dropped to me things will be easy. But they probably won't, so it'll be CJ, Rice, or Charles. I never took Rice in any of the mocks, because I was curious where he is falling to (8,8,5,4). Which makes me think picking 4th or 5th would be better - but I can't do anything about that.

2nd/3rd rounds: personally, I'm looking RB to start. One of the following guys is always there: Gore, Forte, SJax, Hillis. Well, Gore only reached me once (he was 2.6, 2.3, 2.3 in the others). These mocks suggest that there's a very good chance at least one of Forte, Hillis, and SJax will still be there at 3.3. Except for one time when Nicks was there for me in the 2nd, usually you're looking at the next tier (VJax, DJax, Austin, Wayne, Jennings, Wallace). While the 4 picks between my 2nd and 3rd selections had a lot of these guys go off the board, some of them are left for you at 3.3.

This turned out to be an important point to think about QBs. In 4 mocks, none of the top 7 made it back to me at 4.10 (and in some drafts, guys like Ben and Ryan started to be gone too). The good news is that there was always a premium guy for the taking in either the 2nd or 3rd. Everytime, either Brady or Rivers were there at 3.3 (and a couple of times you could get Brees at 2.10). Brady is my pick of those 3, but I fear his Thursday preseason performance bumps his ADP.

4th/5th rounds. As you could guess, this is the stop you have to move if you want a top 5 TE. As many of my drafts had been RB heavy, I was looking to see what WRs were here. The best guys I had to pick from were: Dez, Marshall, Welker, Lloyd, Colston, Maclin (none of the mockers seemed scared by his health issues), Ochocinco (forget about getting him at a bargain - he's gone after this turn). Bowe dropped once, though I wouldn't count on that happening too often.

At QB, if you didn't take one yet, you'll still see guys like Ben, Shaub, Ryan. But if you don't take a QB here, you're looking at an economy QB approach later (Freeman, Stafford, Orton, Cutler). If you need RBs, there were still team starters regularly left: Benson, DWill, Best, Matthews, Lynch, Ingram, FJones, Grant, Moreno.

6th/7th rounds: Getting into sub territory here. If you haven't picked a QB, you might get away playing chicken with it until the next turn (Freeman would be by pick, and he'd sometimes drop to the 8/9 spots). At WR, Harvin, Britt, or Manningham might fall to you here. But don't count on it (and the word must be out on Manningham, because he's going well ahead of his listed ADP). More typically, Rice, Collie, SMoss, SSmith (CAR) are the WRs you'll see. And some interesting RBs occasionally drop down here: Lynch, Grant, Addai, FJackson. In fact, there always seems to be one RB that keeps dropping (and might even make it to the 8/9 picks) that has you thinking "I can't believe no one is taking him!" For those of you in start 3 WR leagues, this would argue towards taking at least 1 WR at the 2/3 spots.

Anyway, here are some of my teams:

mock #1. QB: Brady, Campbell; RB: Foster, Gore, FJax, Hightower; WR: Bryant, Harvin, Britt, Ford, Moore; TE: VDavis, Pettigrew; K: Suiham; DEF: NYG

mock #2. QB: Big Ben, Freeman; RB: Charles, Forte, Matthews, Addai, Hightower; WR: VJax, Marshall, Harvin, Ford, Evans; TE: Gronk, K: Suisham; DEF: Detroit

mock #3. QB: Rodgers (messed around seeing what I could do after taking him first), Flacco; RB: Forte, Best, Matthews, Hightower; WR: Nicks, Marshall, MThomas, Evans, Little; TE: Gronk; K: Suisham; DEF: NE

mock #4. QB: Brady, Campbell; RB: CJ, Forte, Best, FJones, Spiller; WR: Marshall, SMoss, MThomas, Ford, RWilliams; TE: Pettigrew; K: Henery; DEF: NE

Except the Rodgers one, I'd be happy with any of those. Hightower kept popping on my teams - he was always there around 11/12, and despite the scares about him it seems like a great price to take a chance. Ford kept popping up as my WR4 - another case of high upside and low price. If you're bargain hunting for TEs, there were always good guys really late (sometimes even undrafted) - Pettigrew, Cook, Gresham, Celek, Olsen. Despite my affinity for taking QBs early, I think #2 could be a powerhouse - especially if I passed on Ben, taking a top TE (Davis, Witten), or best available WR (Ocho, Welker) or RB (FJones, Ingram, Grant).

Anyway, if anyone bothers to read this hopefully it contributes a little. Like I said, I think I'm leaning towards a Rice/Forte/Brady (or Rivers) start to the draft. Either that, or the plan where I take VJax at 3.03 and target Freeman in the 8th (he would've made it 3 of the 4 mocks, but ADPs I read suggest he goes a round or two earlier). If I miss on Freeman, either there are other QBs around in that ADP range (Stafford, Bradford, Eli, Flacco). I don't know ... the potential value is great, but I always seem to fail when I go for the "wait on QB" approach.

 

[dickey moe]

I've been doing a number of live mocks (on Yahoo) - #3 pick in a 12 teamer. The mock settings are limited to: no PPR, start QB, 2 RBs, 3 WRs, TE/K/DEF (and 6 bench). My personal league is a little different: 0.5 PPR, 100 yard and 300 yard bonuses (for RBs/WRs and QBs respectively). And with the 3rd WR starting spot replaced with a R/W flex. Despite the 0.5 PPR, these settings still suggest that RB value is increased (and calculated VBDs from DD strongly agree).Anyway, the first pick has to be a RB. If AP or Foster dropped to me things will be easy. But they probably won't, so it'll be CJ, Rice, or Charles. I never took Rice in any of the mocks, because I was curious where he is falling to (8,8,5,4). Which makes me think picking 4th or 5th would be better - but I can't do anything about that.2nd/3rd rounds: personally, I'm looking RB to start. One of the following guys is always there: Gore, Forte, SJax, Hillis. Well, Gore only reached me once (he was 2.6, 2.3, 2.3 in the others). These mocks suggest that there's a very good chance at least one of Forte, Hillis, and SJax will still be there at 3.3. Except for one time when Nicks was there for me in the 2nd, usually you're looking at the next tier (VJax, DJax, Austin, Wayne, Jennings, Wallace). While the 4 picks between my 2nd and 3rd selections had a lot of these guys go off the board, some of them are left for you at 3.3.This turned out to be an important point to think about QBs. In 4 mocks, none of the top 7 made it back to me at 4.10 (and in some drafts, guys like Ben and Ryan started to be gone too). The good news is that there was always a premium guy for the taking in either the 2nd or 3rd. Everytime, either Brady or Rivers were there at 3.3 (and a couple of times you could get Brees at 2.10). Brady is my pick of those 3, but I fear his Thursday preseason performance bumps his ADP.4th/5th rounds. As you could guess, this is the stop you have to move if you want a top 5 TE. As many of my drafts had been RB heavy, I was looking to see what WRs were here. The best guys I had to pick from were: Dez, Marshall, Welker, Lloyd, Colston, Maclin (none of the mockers seemed scared by his health issues), Ochocinco (forget about getting him at a bargain - he's gone after this turn). Bowe dropped once, though I wouldn't count on that happening too often.At QB, if you didn't take one yet, you'll still see guys like Ben, Shaub, Ryan. But if you don't take a QB here, you're looking at an economy QB approach later (Freeman, Stafford, Orton, Cutler). If you need RBs, there were still team starters regularly left: Benson, DWill, Best, Matthews, Lynch, Ingram, FJones, Grant, Moreno.6th/7th rounds: Getting into sub territory here. If you haven't picked a QB, you might get away playing chicken with it until the next turn (Freeman would be by pick, and he'd sometimes drop to the 8/9 spots). At WR, Harvin, Britt, or Manningham might fall to you here. But don't count on it (and the word must be out on Manningham, because he's going well ahead of his listed ADP). More typically, Rice, Collie, SMoss, SSmith (CAR) are the WRs you'll see. And some interesting RBs occasionally drop down here: Lynch, Grant, Addai, FJackson. In fact, there always seems to be one RB that keeps dropping (and might even make it to the 8/9 picks) that has you thinking "I can't believe no one is taking him!" For those of you in start 3 WR leagues, this would argue towards taking at least 1 WR at the 2/3 spots.Anyway, here are some of my teams:mock #1. QB: Brady, Campbell; RB: Foster, Gore, FJax, Hightower; WR: Bryant, Harvin, Britt, Ford, Moore; TE: VDavis, Pettigrew; K: Suiham; DEF: NYGmock #2. QB: Big Ben, Freeman; RB: Charles, Forte, Matthews, Addai, Hightower; WR: VJax, Marshall, Harvin, Ford, Evans; TE: Gronk, K: Suisham; DEF: Detroitmock #3. QB: Rodgers (messed around seeing what I could do after taking him first), Flacco; RB: Forte, Best, Matthews, Hightower; WR: Nicks, Marshall, MThomas, Evans, Little; TE: Gronk; K: Suisham; DEF: NEmock #4. QB: Brady, Campbell; RB: CJ, Forte, Best, FJones, Spiller; WR: Marshall, SMoss, MThomas, Ford, RWilliams; TE: Pettigrew; K: Henery; DEF: NEExcept the Rodgers one, I'd be happy with any of those. Hightower kept popping on my teams - he was always there around 11/12, and despite the scares about him it seems like a great price to take a chance. Ford kept popping up as my WR4 - another case of high upside and low price. If you're bargain hunting for TEs, there were always good guys really late (sometimes even undrafted) - Pettigrew, Cook, Gresham, Celek, Olsen. Despite my affinity for taking QBs early, I think #2 could be a powerhouse - especially if I passed on Ben, taking a top TE (Davis, Witten), or best available WR (Ocho, Welker) or RB (FJones, Ingram, Grant).Anyway, if anyone bothers to read this hopefully it contributes a little. Like I said, I think I'm leaning towards a Rice/Forte/Brady (or Rivers) start to the draft. Either that, or the plan where I take VJax at 3.03 and target Freeman in the 8th (he would've made it 3 of the 4 mocks, but ADPs I read suggest he goes a round or two earlier). If I miss on Freeman, either there are other QBs around in that ADP range (Stafford, Bradford, Eli, Flacco). I don't know ... the potential value is great, but I always seem to fail when I go for the "wait on QB" approach.

Really nice post. Thanks.

 

[hotboyz]

Im in a non ppr and i have the 3rd pick in a 12 team and I know it sound crazy but im leaning towards wr in the 1st rd we start 1Qb 1 Rb 1Wr 3 flex rb/wr 1 te 1def/st and the kicker is we go random draft order every odd rd so 1 and 2 are serpentin then random then 3 and 4 are serpentine 6 pts all tds under 40 yds 9 pts all td over 40 yds. So by me pickin 3 in the 1st rd and 10th in the 2nd but i dont pick again until 11 in the 3rd i can field a safe resonably good team but i want a title id rather attack wr make it the strongest corp in the league! I believe I can find RB in the middle rds!

 

[Frenchy Fuqua]

3rd pick PPR I've got them lined up this way:

1) Foster

2) Ray Rice

3) Peterson

Barring injury I don't think you can go wrong with any of these guys.

 

[brainee]

Im in a non ppr and i have the 3rd pick in a 12 team and I know it sound crazy but im leaning towards wr in the 1st rd we start 1Qb 1 Rb 1Wr 3 flex rb/wr 1 te 1def/st and the kicker is we go random draft order every odd rd so 1 and 2 are serpentin then random then 3 and 4 are serpentine 6 pts all tds under 40 yds 9 pts all td over 40 yds. So by me pickin 3 in the 1st rd and 10th in the 2nd but i dont pick again until 11 in the 3rd i can field a safe resonably good team but i want a title id rather attack wr make it the strongest corp in the league! I believe I can find RB in the middle rds!

In non-PPR and 3 flex (and only 1 mandatory starting WR), wouldn't RBs be enormously valued? I don't know ... with your settings, I don't see the value of aiming for the strongest WR corp. And if the other managers are thinking the way I'm thinking, your mid-round RBs bargains may not be as easy to get as you think. If you must have a top WR corp, I'd still rather put a stud RB in the bank right off the bat. A really good WR will be there in the 2nd (wouldn't be surprised to see Nicks or Fitz fall to you, and one of VJax/Wallace will be there at the worst). At your 3/4 turn, you'd be looking at RBs like Blount, Best, DeWill; and WRs like DJax, Tampa MikeW, Bowe, Austin, Dez (or the last of top 7 QBs). Of course, that's all dependent on regular drafting. If the other managers are savvy, RBs may go earlier than normal. If I were you, I'd rather start off Rice and VJax (or Wallace/Nick/Fitz) than AJ and Forte (or SJax/Hillis/Bradshaw).

3rd pick PPR I've got them lined up this way:1) Foster2) Ray Rice3) PetersonBarring injury I don't think you can go wrong with any of these guys.

I'm trying to psych myself up about Rice, because almost assuredly he'll be on the board when we pick. And if he isn't, then that means we get Foster or Peterson (which isn't a bad thing to happen). Is there anyone of us who isn't sold on Rice at this spot, and would rather take Charles or CJ? CJ's situation is just so scary. I hate drafting this early because of situations like this. But I wouldn't at all be surprised if he comes back (missing no games) with a big chip on his shoulder and finishes RB1.

 

[hotboyz]

Im in a non ppr and i have the 3rd pick in a 12 team and I know it sound crazy but im leaning towards wr in the 1st rd we start 1Qb 1 Rb 1Wr 3 flex rb/wr 1 te 1def/st and the kicker is we go random draft order every odd rd so 1 and 2 are serpentin then random then 3 and 4 are serpentine 6 pts all tds under 40 yds 9 pts all td over 40 yds. So by me pickin 3 in the 1st rd and 10th in the 2nd but i dont pick again until 11 in the 3rd i can field a safe resonably good team but i want a title id rather attack wr make it the strongest corp in the league! I believe I can find RB in the middle rds!

In non-PPR and 3 flex (and only 1 mandatory starting WR), wouldn't RBs be enormously valued? I don't know ... with your settings, I don't see the value of aiming for the strongest WR corp. And if the other managers are thinking the way I'm thinking, your mid-round RBs bargains may not be as easy to get as you think. If you must have a top WR corp, I'd still rather put a stud RB in the bank right off the bat. A really good WR will be there in the 2nd (wouldn't be surprised to see Nicks or Fitz fall to you, and one of VJax/Wallace will be there at the worst). At your 3/4 turn, you'd be looking at RBs like Blount, Best, DeWill; and WRs like DJax, Tampa MikeW, Bowe, Austin, Dez (or the last of top 7 QBs). Of course, that's all dependent on regular drafting. If the other managers are savvy, RBs may go earlier than normal. If I were you, I'd rather start off Rice and VJax (or Wallace/Nick/Fitz) than AJ and Forte (or SJax/Hillis/Bradshaw).

3rd pick PPR I've got them lined up this way:

1) Foster

2) Ray Rice

3) Peterson

Barring injury I don't think you can go wrong with any of these guys.

I'm trying to psych myself up about Rice, because almost assuredly he'll be on the board when we pick. And if he isn't, then that means we get Foster or Peterson (which isn't a bad thing to happen). Is there anyone of us who isn't sold on Rice at this spot, and would rather take Charles or CJ? CJ's situation is just so scary. I hate drafting this early because of situations like this. But I wouldn't at all be surprised if he comes back (missing no games) with a big chip on his shoulder and finishes RB1.

I hear what you are saying but i am truly torn over this i am strongly considering going Calvin in the 1st Nicks/Fitz in the and 2nd and believe it or not Dez in the 3rd with Romo in the 4th i believe with this wr corps i can win with a rb corps of lynch,jackson,wells,bush,best. I think going with rb then wr then rb again gives me a decent safe team but going wr-wr-wr-qb gives me a boom or bust team with a chance to fall or be the highest scoring team in the league

 

[LHUCKS]

Foster/Rice/AP

This is easy.

On the way back go WR/WR or WR/RB

 

[brainee]

Well, I had my draft for real this afternoon. 12-team Yahoo redraft league. Scoring is fairly normal: 1 pt/25 yds passing, 1 pt/10 yds rushing and receiving, 0.5 PPR, TDs are 4 pts for QBs and 6 pts for everyone else, INTs are -1 and fumbles are -2. There are yardage bonuses, but they seem minor enough to not change rankings any (+1 at 100 yds rushing/receiving with an addition +2 for 150 yds, +3 for 300 yds passing with +4 more at 400 and +5 more at 500). We start: QB, 2 RBs, 2 WRs, R/W flex, TE, K, DEF. And there's a silly single IDP starter (feel free to ignore this guy's presence on my team). Benches are pretty deep (8 spots) so it was a scramble for deep sleepers and handcuffs.

And with that, I present my team (with draft spot selection in parentheses, projected starters in bold)!

QB: Brees (2.10), Flacco (10.10)

RB: Foster (1.03), SJax (3.03), Best (4.10), Jacobs (8.10), RJennings (11.03)

WR: Holmes (5.03), Harvin (6.10), Ochocinco (7.03), MThomas (9.03), Branch (16.10), Philly SSmith (18.10)

TE: Pettigrew (12.10), Gresham (15.03)

K: Suisham (17.03)

DEF: New Orleans (14.10)

D: Timmons (13.03)

If you think it sucks, be gentle ... my feelings are easily hurt

But seriously ... at least right now, I'm happy with how things turned out. Foster dropping to me was a dream scenario (Brady and Peterson were taken first - I love Patriot homers). QBs were going fast before my 2nd round pick was up. Brees was the only elite guy left, and I felt I had to move if I wanted one (I was thinking that 2 of Brady, Brees, Rivers would be on the board but that wasn't the case). It probably turned out for the best IMO, because later in the draft every QB who would've been my backup plan (Ryan, Big Ben, Eli, Schaub, Stafford, Freeman) got taken before I would've had a shot.

BTW, no one from my second tier of WRs fell to me at 2.10. And the RBs I were thinking might drop (Gore, Forte) didn't fall either. SJax and Hillis were the board, as were the next tier of WRs (VJax, Austin, Wallace, DJax). I figured one of the RBs would drop to 3.03 - if they didn't, VJax would be an easy pick. And it was close ... Hillis, Blount, and Bradshaw all went in those 4 picks. But I'm happy with SJax - a solid RB2 in a PPR league.

It's sit back and calmly watch the draft unfold for those long 18 pick intervals we have to go through. I was planning on WR/WR or RB/WR depending on who dropped. When 4.10 came up, there were still a lot of WRs I liked on the board (Marshall, Holmes, Welker, Ocho, Harvin). But RB was clearly moving down a tier - Best, FJax, Ingram, Felix, Matthews, Lynch, DThomas were some of the names on the board. ADPs suggest some these guys may stick around for a while, while Best was right at the top of Yahoo's default ranking - so that's the move I made. High-risk/reward move in a PPR league, but at least he's only my team's RB3 (or flex starter) in the worst case scenario. Marshall was taken leaving Holmes as my first WR at 5.03.

I was surprised to see Ocho and Harvin there for my 6/7 turn. There were still good RBs to be had (Grant, Wells, Addai, RBush, Hightower, Stewart) but I couldn't resist taking Harvin for my WR2. And I was pleasantly surprised that Ocho was still there at 7.03. After that it's backup, sleeper, and scrub time. Someone took my Foster handcuff early (some guy had an odd-looking plan of taking nothing but RB handcuffs). Though I got MJD's handcuff, who's probably more likely to have to play. And as an Eagles fan, I'll admit my last pick was nothing more than wanting to pick an Eagle. He's a talented WR, so at pick 208 I figure why not. Yeah, I know 6 WRs is overkill but I just didn't like any of the RBs around that time. Looking at the undrafted RB list ... Ricky Williams is still there! That might be worth a pick-up ... if for nothing else than to ruffle the feathers of the RRice owner (his fault for sleeping on it) EDIT: Thinking about it more, I see Jerome Harrison is available. He's proven very effective when given the chance. That has to be the pickup, replacing SSmith (PHI), right? To protect my Best selection (and the really big bench gives me that luxury for my RB3, especially since others have snagged my Foster and SJax handcuffs).

Hope this proves useful to those of you with drafts at #3 still coming. Feel to ask me (in the forum or pm) any additional specific things about my draft if you were wondering.

 

[hotboyz]

Well, I had my draft for real this afternoon. 12-team Yahoo redraft league. Scoring is fairly normal: 1 pt/25 yds passing, 1 pt/10 yds rushing and receiving, 0.5 PPR, TDs are 4 pts for QBs and 6 pts for everyone else, INTs are -1 and fumbles are -2. There are yardage bonuses, but they seem minor enough to not change rankings any (+1 at 100 yds rushing/receiving with an addition +2 for 150 yds, +3 for 300 yds passing with +4 more at 400 and +5 more at 500). We start: QB, 2 RBs, 2 WRs, R/W flex, TE, K, DEF. And there's a silly single IDP starter (feel free to ignore this guy's presence on my team). Benches are pretty deep (8 spots) so it was a scramble for deep sleepers and handcuffs.

And with that, I present my team (with draft spot selection in parentheses, projected starters in bold)!

QB: Brees (2.10), Flacco (10.10)

RB: Foster (1.03), SJax (3.03), Best (4.10), Jacobs (8.10), RJennings (11.03)

WR: Holmes (5.03), Harvin (6.10), Ochocinco (7.03), MThomas (9.03), Branch (16.10), Philly SSmith (18.10)

TE: Pettigrew (12.10), Gresham (15.03)

K: Suisham (17.03)

DEF: New Orleans (14.10)

D: Timmons (13.03)

If you think it sucks, be gentle ... my feelings are easily hurt

But seriously ... at least right now, I'm happy with how things turned out. Foster dropping to me was a dream scenario (Brady and Peterson were taken first - I love Patriot homers). QBs were going fast before my 2nd round pick was up. Brees was the only elite guy left, and I felt I had to move if I wanted one (I was thinking that 2 of Brady, Brees, Rivers would be on the board but that wasn't the case). It probably turned out for the best IMO, because later in the draft every QB who would've been my backup plan (Ryan, Big Ben, Eli, Schaub, Stafford, Freeman) got taken before I would've had a shot.

BTW, no one from my second tier of WRs fell to me at 2.10. And the RBs I were thinking might drop (Gore, Forte) didn't fall either. SJax and Hillis were the board, as were the next tier of WRs (VJax, Austin, Wallace, DJax). I figured one of the RBs would drop to 3.03 - if they didn't, VJax would be an easy pick. And it was close ... Hillis, Blount, and Bradshaw all went in those 4 picks. But I'm happy with SJax - a solid RB2 in a PPR league.

It's sit back and calmly watch the draft unfold for those long 18 pick intervals we have to go through. I was planning on WR/WR or RB/WR depending on who dropped. When 4.10 came up, there were still a lot of WRs I liked on the board (Marshall, Holmes, Welker, Ocho, Harvin). But RB was clearing moving down a tier - Best, FJax, Ingram, Felix, Matthews, Lynch, DThomas were some of the names on the board. ADPs suggest some these guys may stick around for a while, while Best was right at the top of Yahoo's default ranking - so that's the move I made. High-risk/reward move in a PPR league, but at least he's only my team's RB3 (or flex starter) in the worst case scenario. Marshall was taken leaving Holmes as my first WR at 5.03.

I was surprised to see Ocho and Harvin there for my 6/7 turn. There were still good RBs to be had (Grant, Wells, Addai, RBush, Hightower, Stewart) but I couldn't resist taking Harvin for my WR2. And I was pleasantly surprised that Ocho was still there at 7.03. After that it's backup, sleeper, and scrub time. Someone took my Foster handcuff early (some guy had an odd-looking plan of taking nothing but RB handcuffs). Though I got MJD's handcuff, who's probably more likely to have to play. And as an Eagles fan, I'll admit my last pick was nothing more than wanting to pick an Eagle. He's a talented WR, so at pick 208 I figure why not. Yeah, I know 6 WRs is overkill but I just didn't like any of the RBs around that time. Looking at the undrafted RB list ... Ricky Williams is still there! That might be worth a pick-up ... if for nothing else than to ruffle the feathers of the RRice owner (his fault for sleeping on it) EDIT: Thinking about it more, I see Jerome Harrison is available. He's proven very effective when given the chance. That has to be the pickup, replacing SSmith (PHI), right? To protect my Best selection (and the really big bench gives me that luxury for my RB3, especially since others have snagged my Foster and SJax handcuffs).

Hope this proves useful to those of you with drafts at #3 still coming. Feel to ask me (in the forum or pm) any additional specific things about my draft if you were wondering.

Ok team I guess? But in a league that only awards 4pts for QB I dont think I would ever draft a QB before the 6th Rd! at 2.10 you should have taken a WR there I know there had to be a stud on the board especially since you said QB's were flying off the board! Hell I wouldve taken Mike Wallace before I took a QB at 2.10 and in a league that rewards for receptions you didnt pick any possesion wr's wheres amendola or welker lance moore?

 

[brainee]

Ok team I guess? But in a league that only awards 4pts for QB I dont think I would ever draft a QB before the 6th Rd! at 2.10 you should have taken a WR there I know there had to be a stud on the board especially since you said QB's were flying off the board! Hell I wouldve taken Mike Wallace before I took a QB at 2.10 and in a league that rewards for receptions you didnt pick any possesion wr's wheres amendola or welker lance moore?

That's ok. From the earlier posts, it's clear we have very different approaches to the draft. Even though my league was 0.5 PPR, only needing to start 2 WRs suggested that the position's value decreased (which Draft Dominator agreed with strongly). Maybe in full PPR, start 3 WRs (no R/W flex) I could go with RB-WR-WR (I still think WR-WR-WR is crazy). But it didn't seem the right move here. I was pleased I was able to put together a squad like how I was planning.

 

[hotboyz]

I do think your squad is decent I wouldn't go wr-wr-wr with your league setup either but I def would not go QB in the 2nd round just think you could've been a stronger team by going wr or RB at 2.10

 

[brun]

FPC League, drafted a week ago. I've identified my 1st 10 picks. I had looked to get seeing Charles, Rice or Foster at 1.3. As it turned out, that's the order they were picked. The rest of the 1st round: Peterson went 4th, McFadden 5th, McCoy 6th, Cal Johnson 7th, Andre 8th, Mendenhall 9th, Fitz 10th, Chris Johnson 11th, Forte 12th.

Mark Sanchez

Ben Roethlisberger 7

Carnell Williams

Shonn Greene 2

Danny Woodhead 8

Arian Foster 1

Derrick Ward

Tashard Choice

Arrelious Benn

Mike Williams 10

Miles Austin 3

Greg Little 9

Jerome Simpson

Anquan Boldin 4

Marcedes Lewis 6

Zach Miller

Owen Daniels 5

Ed Dickson

Garrett Hartley

Philadelphia Eagles

 

[chihawk]

What are you guys thinking now at #3?

A few weeks ago, this looked to be whoever remained of Foster, CJ, and AP. With CJ continuing his hold out I think he is being dropped way past #3 in most leagues. Now that Foster is dealing with his hammy, are you picking him #3 if he is there or dropping him past #3? I would really like Rice, but I fear he will go #1 or #2 with AP...leaving 3# in a tough spot. Charles or Foster...or someone else?

 

[hotboyz]

What are you guys thinking now at #3? A few weeks ago, this looked to be whoever remained of Foster, CJ, and AP. With CJ continuing his hold out I think he is being dropped way past #3 in most leagues. Now that Foster is dealing with his hammy, are you picking him #3 if he is there or dropping him past #3? I would really like Rice, but I fear he will go #1 or #2 with AP...leaving 3# in a tough spot. Charles or Foster...or someone else?

Honestly im looking to trade out of the spot im not feeling comfortable with any available backs at #3