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***OFFICIAL*** USC v Texas GameThread (1 Viewer)

No doubt in my mind that Vince Young isn't the best athlete in college football. How far do you let someone special like him fall in the draft. He's a STUD.Wow, his stock was high, but it's thru the freaken roof.Vince Young = National Championship

 
Even though I agreed with Carroll's decision to go for it, that one play will pretty much keep him in Southern California. That's the only clip GMs need to see to look elsewhere for leadership.

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Hmmmmmmmmm, can't we revote for Heismann?????On 4th and 2........there's a running play and the Heisman Trophy winner is on the bench with the National Championship on the line!If he can't be in the game then, how is he going to be better than Dominic Davis or whoever next year when games are on the line?

 
I've been saying all along he's not gonna drop outta the top 10.Got scoffed at He might go as high as 3rd.1- bush2- lienart3- youngheck maybe NO take young.

 
Hmmmmmmmmm, can't we revote for Heismann?????

On 4th and 2........there's a running play and the Heisman Trophy winner is on the bench with the National Championship on the line!

If he can't be in the game then, how is he going to be better than Dominic Davis or whoever next year when games are on the line?
Exactly why I think they should do the Heisman AFTER bowls...
 
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Texas 38 USC 35

The two best teams in the land bar far. The two narrow victories by USC over Fresno St. and Notre Dame...........and the unimpressive win vs. Oregon, all teams who LOST in this bowl season makes me believe that Texas will win this game.

I'm taking the 7 points though! :excited:
Not a bad prediction!
 
Wow, unimpressive last play by Leinart. Needed to get rid of that ball so it wasn't the last play, given that they weren't throwing deep... at least throw it away so you can try a hail mary.

 
Hmmmmmmmmm, can't we revote for Heismann?????

On 4th and 2........there's a running play and the Heisman Trophy winner is on the bench with the National Championship on the line!

If he can't be in the game then, how is he going to be better than Dominic Davis or whoever next year when games are on the line?
Exactly why I think they should do the Heisman AFTER bowls...
I've always said the same thing, and the list of heisman winners would be vastly different were that the case.
 
Thank FREAKIN' GOD! Congrats Longhorns! Now the media and everyone can finally move on from their media darlings (USC, Bush, Leinart)...

 
I wouldn't worry about not being taken in the top 5 if I were Young, LOL. Reggie just might have some competition for the #1 pick. One thing is for sure, Leinart won't be the first QB taken if Vince comes out. If anything was proven tonight, that was.

 
So which offense is the best ever now? Texas scored more points on the year and in the head to head matchup.

 
What a terrible interview....Leinart says it was a great win for them, and then the interviewer signs off with saying good game Vince to Leinart. LOL

 
Great game, congrats to the Longhorns. I live in Pasadena and I'll be heading out to the bars for a couple of brewskies. Should be interesting.

 
How do you like that Pete Carroll call now, going for it on 4th down?
It was the right call. The defense (if there technically was a defense) couldn't stop Young. They could have started from the 1 inch line and Young would have put the 8 on the board.But I don't understand why Bush was on the sidelines. That really makes the consensus "best player in college football" look weak.

I guess the question would have been: Had Bush gotten the ball and not converted, would that have been the play that GMs remembered?

 
How do you like that Pete Carroll call now, going for it on 4th down?
I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't have done the EXACT same thing.
With the way White was running in the second half, you're damn straight I woulda gone for it on 4th down... don't blame Carroll one bit for that call...
 
Here's the most impressive stat for the Longhorns this season:They went OVER for all 13 games this season! What a cash machine that play was all season!

 
3 things stand out to me after watching this game. One, the non review of the first TD that Texas had on the latteral by Young. Two, USC not realizing that Young ONLY runs to his right and they fail to see that. Three, USC going for it on 4th down to give Texas great field position.

 
Should Pete Carroll be blamed for the loss?
Not at all........he was entirely right. He knew his defensive couldn't stop Vince Young so he tried to take the game out of his hands. I totally think that was the right call.Unless it was some spectacular kick inside the 5 yard line, Young had enough time to score. And if you're going to hope for a spectacular play by punting, why not just get a spectacular run and never give him the ball.

This game was won by Vince Young, not lost by any one person. Also want to throw in David Thomas, TE from Texas who had a solid game.

Congrats Texas fans, enjoy. I know Young was saying he was staying in Texas, but you'd have to rethink now that he's won the National championship and played the way he did.

Congrats too to USC fans, great team. They had a great run and play with a lot of heart.

 
Thank FREAKIN' GOD! Congrats Longhorns! Now the media and everyone can finally move on from their media darlings (USC, Bush, Leinart)...
Damn :goodposting: I was :X with ESPN and their gushing for the Condoms. Not a Texas fan by any stretch but good to see someone else with the title.By the way the 1996 Huskers are still the best team of all time!!! :football:
 
What a terrible interview....

Leinart says it was a great win for them, and then the interviewer signs off with saying good game Vince to Leinart. LOL
The whole broadcast was a joke. Keith Jackson seriously needs to re-retire. He's completely lost, like a deep-voiced Sumerall. He is hands down the worst play by play caller in sprts today. Absolutely clueless.
 
3 things stand out to me after watching this game. One, the non review of the first TD that Texas had on the latteral by Young. Two, USC not realizing that Young ONLY runs to his right and they fail to see that. Three, USC going for it on 4th down to give Texas great field position.
USC fan, I mean dOuSKUe,What about the missed extra points and field goals that were basically chip shots by Texas in the game. What about the fumbles early on and the injury to their best defensive player with only 6 minutes in the game after they bell behind by 2 scores but yet came back to win.

Hey, it was a great game. There were a lot of dynamics that went into this game, not just the few you pointed out.

 
My day is complete. SC's luck finally ran out and Pete Carroll is exposed as an idiot. I bet Texas was very pleased to see the Bush on the sidelines for 1/2 SC's offensive plays in the first half. Carroll and SC got what they deserved. There really is a football god.

 
2 turning points in the game:- The non-review of the TD lateral toss. He was down and the refs had lots of time to review the play. Also I think the lateral went forward. It was a horrible non-call.- Going for it on 4th and 1. They should have punted, and put Texas on the 5 yard line. I mean why go for it when you've got the lead?

 
Thank FREAKIN' GOD! Congrats Longhorns! Now the media and everyone can finally move on from their media darlings (USC, Bush, Leinart)...
Damn :goodposting: I was :X with ESPN and their gushing for the Condoms. Not a Texas fan by any stretch but good to see someone else with the title.

By the way the 1996 Huskers are still the best team of all time!!! :football:
When I think of great teams, especially in recent history that one always pops into my mind. I'm far from a Cornhusker fan.
 
3 things stand out to me after watching this game.  One, the non review of the first TD that Texas had on the latteral by Young.  Two, USC not realizing that Young ONLY runs to his right and they fail to see that.  Three, USC going for it on 4th down to give Texas great field position.
USC fan, I mean dOuSKUe,What about the missed extra points and field goals that were basically chip shots by Texas in the game. What about the fumbles early on and the injury to their best defensive player with only 6 minutes in the game after they bell behind by 2 scores but yet came back to win.

Hey, it was a great game. There were a lot of dynamics that went into this game, not just the few you pointed out.
LOL, USC fan? Read between the lines ;)
 
I'm a huge SC homer, and we have no excuses. Tip my hat to Texas, espcially Young. Man among boys. The only glaring mistake was blowing timeouts by USC in the 2nd half. Carroll was 100% right going for that on 4th down. He knew if hew got it, game over. If he punted, Young would beat him anyway, and that's what happened.

 
2 turning points in the game:

- The non-review of the TD lateral toss. He was down and the refs had lots of time to review the play. Also I think the lateral went forward. It was a horrible non-call.

- Going for it on 4th and 1. They should have punted, and put Texas on the 5 yard line. I mean why go for it when you've got the lead?
They didn't have that option, it's not available as far as I know. I'm sure if Pete Carroll were offered that he would have taken it. The ball just as easily could have bounced into the endzone giving Texas the ball at the 20, plenty of time for Young still to score.If you're needing a good play, why not just end the game. Tell me this, what was the best player in college football supposedly doing on the sideline with the National Chamipionsip on the line??? That to me is the biggest mystery.

 
Thank FREAKIN' GOD! Congrats Longhorns! Now the media and everyone can finally move on from their media darlings (USC, Bush, Leinart)...
Damn :goodposting: I was :X with ESPN and their gushing for the Condoms. Not a Texas fan by any stretch but good to see someone else with the title.

By the way the 1996 Huskers are still the best team of all time!!! :football:
Yet I still believe that the 1983 Husker team was the best of all time, even though they lost to Miami. (Still a balls move by Osbourne going for the win rather than the tie and the assured championship)Now to the game....quite possibly the best national championship game I have ever seen. What a treat.

As a devout Alabama fan, I just knew that the ghost of Bear Bryant wouldn't allow USC to equal my beloved Crimson Tide for the most national titles. ROLL TIDE!!!

Hats off to Texas. Hook 'em horns!

 
I'm a huge SC homer, and we have no excuses. Tip my hat to Texas, espcially Young. Man among boys. The only glaring mistake was blowing timeouts by USC in the 2nd half. Carroll was 100% right going for that on 4th down. He knew if hew got it, game over. If he punted, Young would beat him anyway, and that's what happened.
I'm with you there, although I'm not going to give Carroll a free pass. The play calling was terrible tonight. White was running through Texas, but they didn't stick with him and rarely gave him carries on back-to-back plays. That botched 2nd and 7 screen attempt to Hancock cost them the game. If they hand it to White on that play and on third down then they win the game. Nevertheless, a loss is a loss. USC had no answer for Young all night long.

 
2 turning points in the game:

- The non-review of the TD lateral toss.  He was down and the refs had lots of time to review the play.  Also I think the lateral went forward.  It was a horrible non-call.

- Going for it on 4th and 1.  They should have punted, and put Texas on the 5 yard line.  I mean why go for it when you've got the lead?
They didn't have that option, it's not available as far as I know. I'm sure if Pete Carroll were offered that he would have taken it. The ball just as easily could have bounced into the endzone giving Texas the ball at the 20, plenty of time for Young still to score.If you're needing a good play, why not just end the game. Tell me this, what was the best player in college football supposedly doing on the sideline with the National Chamipionsip on the line??? That to me is the biggest mystery.
While we're second-guessing, let me add along these lines that on the mistaken 4th-down call in the first quarter (where Carroll wanted the timeout but didn't get it), Texas were able to jam the middle and stuff the QB sneak. One might think that something a bit less obvious was in order...something outside...something to, maybe, Reggie Bush?
 
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2 turning points in the game:

- The non-review of the TD lateral toss.  He was down and the refs had lots of time to review the play.  Also I think the lateral went forward.  It was a horrible non-call.

- Going for it on 4th and 1.  They should have punted, and put Texas on the 5 yard line.  I mean why go for it when you've got the lead?
They didn't have that option, it's not available as far as I know. I'm sure if Pete Carroll were offered that he would have taken it. The ball just as easily could have bounced into the endzone giving Texas the ball at the 20, plenty of time for Young still to score.If you're needing a good play, why not just end the game. Tell me this, what was the best player in college football supposedly doing on the sideline with the National Chamipionsip on the line??? That to me is the biggest mystery.
Really? C'mon. White has been the short yardage back his entire career. He was dominant tonight, a monster who scored 3TD's. Forget about that?. Bush should have been on the sideline. What's with all the hyperbole, folks? If you want to knock Bush, knock him. But enough of this "what's the best player in football doing on the sideline" crap..
 
2 turning points in the game:

- The non-review of the TD lateral toss. He was down and the refs had lots of time to review the play. Also I think the lateral went forward. It was a horrible non-call.

- Going for it on 4th and 1. They should have punted, and put Texas on the 5 yard line. I mean why go for it when you've got the lead?
Are you referring to the TD that Young had earlier in the game, the one where he was down. No doubt he was down.However, let's also think about this. Looking at this game, I think we can say there's a very realistic shot that Texas would have scored a TD anyway. It wasn't like the last play of the half and if they called him down, then they weren't getting any points of the drive. It would have been 1st and 10 from the 11 or 12 yard line. Maybe they wouldn't have scored a TD, but the odds were pretty good that they would score............and because they were rushing, trying to get the play in, they missed the XP.

Also, it was only the 2nd Qtr and timeouts aren't as important........why didn't USC's coaching staff call a timeout to force more time for the refs to look at the play. Call a freaken timeout.......then they would have reviewed it!

 
2 turning points in the game:

- The non-review of the TD lateral toss. He was down and the refs had lots of time to review the play. Also I think the lateral went forward. It was a horrible non-call.

- Going for it on 4th and 1. They should have punted, and put Texas on the 5 yard line. I mean why go for it when you've got the lead?
They didn't have that option, it's not available as far as I know. I'm sure if Pete Carroll were offered that he would have taken it. The ball just as easily could have bounced into the endzone giving Texas the ball at the 20, plenty of time for Young still to score.If you're needing a good play, why not just end the game. Tell me this, what was the best player in college football supposedly doing on the sideline with the National Chamipionsip on the line??? That to me is the biggest mystery.
Two great points. I guess Lindell White is the power / short yardage guy. As for the not punting. USC has awesome special teams. Making Young go 90 or 80 yards is better than putting him on the 50 yard line. I think that was a horrible decision by Pete Carroll.
 

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