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***OFFICIAL*** Washington Nationals ongoing thread (1 Viewer)
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Don Quixote
Footballguy
I think they'd be willing to add a bit to payroll, but it's hard to know what Rizzo/Lerner are thinking. Werth's contract is now off the books. They made a substantial offer to Jansen last offseason, but he turned it down. So, they showed some willingness for the right player. But I guess we'll see what the offseason holds.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
"It can't go on forever" doesn't mean "it ends today." It means it can't go on forever. Someone will break through eventually.
But just to be sure, I guess it's time for me to start looking at the housing market in Silver Spring.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Dusty definitely has some flaws as a manager, but also not sure who they think can/will be a better manager. Should be an interesting hiring process. They've gone through a lot of managers, but this is the first where I've had a "I don't know if they should have let him go" sort of reaction to it.
I wonder if it's too late to make a play for Cora, or if he's all signed up with the Red Sox as the reports suggest.
I wonder if it's too late to make a play for Cora, or if he's all signed up with the Red Sox as the reports suggest.
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Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Yeah, not sure about changing up everything with all these guys having one year left before the team gets broken up.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
That does not worry me as much, as it's easier to transition manager and coaching staff in baseball than most other sports (Maddux is the big exception there, but maybe the next manager will try to keep him on board).
....Assuming Cora is locked up, the next big name out there is probably Ausmus, but I'm having a hard time getting excited about him.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Everyone around here is upset because Dusty is so lovable. But I'm just pissed they made me think about baseball and the Nationals when I really want to forget they both exist for a couple months.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Send me $10K to repair all the damage my 2,3 and 5 year old have done to the house so we can put it on the market and it's a deal.
Although like I said I was out of town for the 09-10 Caps collapse so I can't promise results.
I am really surprised that Dusty will not be back. One way to look at it: how many Nationals had career years this year? Taylor, Rendon, Zimmerman, Difo, Strasburg, Gio. You can probably throw Hendrick and Lind in there too. That is really good. The manager's job is to get players to play up to their potential. Dusty did that.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Of course there's always a flip side, though. Turner regressed badly, as did Roark. Wieters was atrocious. Werth finally fell off the cliff ... yet Dusty batted him second in Game 5 of the NLDS, where he generally hit well but also struck out in the 9th with the Nats down 1 and Rendon and Murphy buried lower in the order. He made a number of other poor choices in Game 5 as well- not pinch-hitting for Wieters in a huge spot but double-switching him out the next inning being the most obvious, but there were plenty of others both in that game and earlier in the series.
This article sums it up pretty well I think. It's an odd but defensible decision in a vacuum, but the Nats haven't earned the benefit of the doubt because they're just so bad at PR.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Dave Martinez being brought in for an interview. He seems overdue for a job, but hard to know how a first-time manager will do. I'm a bit more excited about that than dipping back into the well of guys with managerial experience who were fired for a reason (and Martinez has been around as a coach longer than Matt Williams).
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Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
at Ray Knight
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Dump truck for Girardi? Not perfect, but as Joe E. Brown would say, "nobody's perfect."
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Yeah, hopefully they learned their lesson after Bud Black. But I guess we'll find out.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Wade Boggs breaking news?
Wade Boggs
@ChickenMan3010
Congrats to former teammate Dave Martinez on the Nat 's job great baseball guy good luck
Wade Boggs
@ChickenMan3010
Congrats to former teammate Dave Martinez on the Nat 's job great baseball guy good luck
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Since nobody else has this, I'm guessing Boggs hasn't been this wrong since he argued that the greatest British Prime Minister was Pitt the Elder.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Being reported Martinez getting three years with option for a fourth.
Anyone got the scoop on his possible style? Everyone saying it’s a good hire.
Anyone got the scoop on his possible style? Everyone saying it’s a good hire.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Does Stanton to the Yankees help keep them away from Harper? They can't have a Stanton, Judge, Harper OF, right?
Don Quixote
Footballguy
I don’t think it really prevents. I think they could move Stanton to first, if they wanted to.
I think Victor Robles' season this year will have a bigger impact on whether or not Harper signs with The Nats then anything The Yankees do. I'm very interested to see what's going to happen at The Winter Meetings. I'm betting on Taylor getting shopped around a bit.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Two minutes apart on Twitter:
I enjoy Heyman most of the time, but he's such a transparent Boras shill.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Kintzler back for 2 years. Guess that's a no on Wade Davis and Addison Reed.
Sounds like they aren't going to pay Arrieta's price tag and looking to deal for Chris Archer, Jake Odorizzi, or Zach Greinke.
Sounds like they aren't going to pay Arrieta's price tag and looking to deal for Chris Archer, Jake Odorizzi, or Zach Greinke.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Matt Adams joins the club on a 1 year $4 million deal to be the 2018 Adam Lind.
I was kinda bummed they didn't bring back Lind but I think they did pretty well here. He won't replicate 2017 Lind numbers most likely, but then neither would Lind. And if memory serves, Adams is a defensive upgrade from Lind. Neither is good, but I believe Adams isn't a total disaster at 1B like Lind was. And Adams is several years younger.
I was kinda bummed they didn't bring back Lind but I think they did pretty well here. He won't replicate 2017 Lind numbers most likely, but then neither would Lind. And if memory serves, Adams is a defensive upgrade from Lind. Neither is good, but I believe Adams isn't a total disaster at 1B like Lind was. And Adams is several years younger.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Like the move to bring back Kendrick. There are only a few players with that kind of versatility, which they may need, particularly with Eaton and Murphy coming back from injuries.
The roster is looking in pretty good shape. I'm not sure what more they may try to do -- maybe if there's a back of the rotation piece available for the right price, or someone to compete for backup catcher?
The roster is looking in pretty good shape. I'm not sure what more they may try to do -- maybe if there's a back of the rotation piece available for the right price, or someone to compete for backup catcher?
Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
I've read that they want JT Realmuto, as Weiters was brutal last year. I assume Miami would want young cost-controlled talent in return.Don Quixote said:
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Anyone else kinda hoping the Nats go after Arrieta? I understand it would mean throwing in the towel on Bryce Harper after this season, but I think they should give up on that anyway. They're deep at OF with Eaton and Taylor under team control until 2020 and Robles, Soto and Goodwin all waiting in the wings. But the future at SP is bleak with Scherzer turning 34 this summer and no elite pitching prospects in the system and there's not a lot to like about next year's free agent SP class. I think it's a risk worth taking.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Yeah, I feel the same. They need at least a #5 starter, but I think really could use someone to step in as a #3 starter for the postseason. And, with Gio a free agent after this year, they are going to need another starter next year anyway. May as well take the leap this year, when the band is together for one last year.
I think there's only a 10% chance they sign Bryce anyway. I feel like a lot of teams are saving their salary space to make a run at him next year, and someone is going to pay an ungodly sum that the Nats won't be able to match.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Agree Arrieta would be nice but if they chance to sign Bryce is only about 10% they should trade him and get 3-5 pieces for him before he walks.
And what's with paying cash for a middle infielder from the Mets that isn't very good? Prelude to a Realmuto trade that involves Difo and another player?
Don Quixote
Footballguy
I'm probably on the pessimistic side on signing him versus others. I don't personally see the Nats shelling out the $500m that it will take, but Rizzo knows the Lerner's pocketbooks much better than me.
From what I've read, Reynolds still has an option left. So, he could start in the minors and be a call-up to provide some depth, particularly if Murphy isn't ready by the start.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
They aren’t gonna trade Harper but even if they did, they aren’t gonna get a ton in return. See JD Martinez.
They won't be in a position to consider trading Harper, unless multiple catastrophic injuries hit the team AND Harper is healthy.
Reynolds is a solid call up/fill in guy. He's got an option left on his contract so they can send him to the minors and call him up if someone gets hurt.
They won't get anything decent for Harper at this point and this is the last push with Murphy/Harper so they should be going all in this year.
