***OFFICIAL*** Washington Redskins 2011 Off-Season Thread (1 Viewer)

[ConnSKINS26]

I love this pick. Love it. And I REALLY REALLY wanted Gabbert.

But I love this. You know what this was? A Patriots-type move. Trade down 6 spots, acquire a 2nd, and take a guy you loved and needed, a guy with a high floor, a high motor, excellent work ethic and intelligence, and the ability to be a team leader and contribute immediately.

 

[Sebowski]

Dude is strong

Kerrigan is an athletic end...

But how is he as a LB?

 

[thayman]

Ryan Kerrigan

Ryan Kerrigan

Height: 6-3⅞ | Weight: 267 | 40-Time: 4.71

Ryan Kerrigan | Purdue Boilermakers

Official Bio

Strengths:

• Good size with a nice frame and growth potential

• More quick than fast but has a burst to close

• Able to get around the edge and run the arch

• Strong, powerful and an outstanding bull rusher

• Has a wide array of moves in pass rush repertoire

• Competitive and relentless with a non-stop motor

• Good range and does a great job in pursuit

• Reliable tackler who can deliver the big hit

• More than holds his own versus the run

• Displays violent hands and uses them well

• Shows the ability to disengage from blockers

• Smart with terrific instincts and awareness

• Utilizes proper technique and understands leverage

• Super tough and will play through pain / injuries

• Productive with a knack for making impact plays

• Superb leadership qualities and amazing work ethic

• Offers some positional and schematic versatility

• Lots of quality experience and a great pedigree

Weaknesses:

• Not a smooth athlete or overly explosive

• Average speed, agility and change of direction

• Ability to play on feet in space is a question mark

• May lack fluid hips and is unproven in coverage

• Some minor durability and health concerns

• Overall upside might be relatively limited

• May be a bit of a positional 'tweener

Notes:

A three-year starter and team captain for the Boilermakers --- Named 1st Team All-Big Ten in 2009 and 2010 --- A unanimous All-American selection in 2010 --- Honored as the Big Ten Defensive Player of the Year and Defensive Lineman of the Year after leading the conference in sacks as a senior --- Also garnered notice from the Big Ten for his work in the classroom --- Led the entire nation in tackles for a loss as a senior --- Finished career at Purdue tied for second on the school's all-time sack list --- 14 career forced fumbles set the Big Ten record and tied the NCAA mark --- Hails from the same college program that produced NFL pass rushers such as Rosevelt Colvin, Chike Okeafor, Shaun Phillips, Ray Edwards, Rob Ninkovich, Anthony Spencer and Cliff Avril --- Suffered a broken foot in the final game of the 2009 season, which had to be surgically repaired --- Could project to defensive end in a 4-3 scheme or outside linebacker in an odd (3-4) front --- Fantastic football player who compensates for a lack of eye-popping physical tools with top-notch intangibles --- Draft stock soared after a standout senior campaign and it seemed as though everyone who saw him play came away singing his praises --- Might never be an "elite" sack artist along the lines of Julius Peppers but will be a very good player for a long time -- Profiles as a Chris Long-type of presence at the next level.

Career Statistics

Year GP TKL TFL SACK

2007 12 18 1.0 7.0

2008 12 56 11.5 7.0

2009 12 65 17.0 11.0

2010 12 70 26.0 12.5

Totals 48 209 55.5 37.5

Sooo...they drafted a guy who they want to move to a 3-4 LB who is unproven in coverage? Awesome

 

[Harjiran]

Sooo...they drafted a guy who they want to move to a 3-4 LB who is unproven in coverage? Awesome

The Skins traded back, picked up another 2nd rounder and took a collegiate DE who, like Brian Orakpo, projects to 3-4 OLB which is a position of need. What are you guys complaining about exactly? Did you have your heart set on Christian Ponder?

 

[PinkydaPimp]

im very happy about the pick! be interested to see what we do with the 2nd rounders.

 

[thayman]

Sooo...they drafted a guy who they want to move to a 3-4 LB who is unproven in coverage? Awesome

The Skins traded back, picked up another 2nd rounder and took a collegiate DE who, like Brian Orakpo, projects to 3-4 OLB which is a position of need. What are you guys complaining about exactly? Did you have your heart set on Christian Ponder?

No I'm tired of this team having no direction. Either draft players that fit your system or develop your system to fit your players. What we don't need is an outside LB that is a liability in coverage.

 

[TankRizzo]

I love this pick. Love it. And I REALLY REALLY wanted Gabbert.But I love this. You know what this was? A Patriots-type move. Trade down 6 spots, acquire a 2nd, and take a guy you loved and needed, a guy with a high floor, a high motor, excellent work ethic and intelligence, and the ability to be a team leader and contribute immediately.

My thoughts exactly, I loved Gabbert and was elated when Dallas was unable to trade their pick and he fell to us. But trading down and taking Kerrigan, I'm very happy with that decision.

 

[MikeApf]

I'll weigh in and say that I am happy with the Redskins' decisions:

1st -- trading down only 6 spots to get an additional # 2 pick. That is exactly what a team that has as many holes as the Redskins has needs to do and really marks a shift in philosophy from the past. The "old" Redskins take Gabbert at # 10 because he was the "flashy pick" on the board.

2nd -- Why are we talking about Kerrigan like he's a bum? No, he's not a top 5 pick that can do everything right off the back, but I think there is no doubt that he will make an impact as a starter this season. I think this pick was made for character in addition to ability and scheme. Scheme: the Redskins are looking to move to the 3-4 and create lots of turnovers. Kerrigan's strength is that he is a good pass rusher who specializes in forcing fumbles; they needed to get a bookend LB for Orakpo to take the pressure off of Rak and create havoc on the other side of the ball. Character: he is supposedly one of these guys who is smart, works hard, works out hard, etc. and whenever I have seen that kind of guy (e.g. Lorenzo Alexander), they have achieved their upside more than dropping to their downside.

The only questions out there are regarding his play out in space and specifically pass coverage, but the Redskins met with him and worked him out and decided it was something they could work with. Now they have two other picks in the top 50 + a third rounder and they can still look for a QB like Dalton or the guy from Nevada conceivably, who may not be worse than Gabbert honestly and also add two other potential starters (perhaps Nose Tackle being one of them)

In evaluating this move, I look at what the likely alternative would have been for not moving down: pick Gabbert, then try to fill holes with the 2nd and 3rd. Gabbert, for the hype that has surrounded him, has questions equal to or greater than Kerrigan, so it's not like that would have been a "sure pick" and whiffing on # 10 at QB is definitely a more fatal mistake. Then, instead of having 3 more starters you can pull from in the 2nd and 3rd, you only have 2.

There are questions as there are with all moves, but I think in general they approached this first round intelligently.

 

[MikeApf]

Question for Redskins Nation:

They now have pick # 41 and #49, plus the third rounder.

Who do they target?

 

[dgreen]

Now they have two other picks in the top 50 + a third rounder...

They now have pick # 41 and #49, plus the third rounder.

They don't have a third rounder (or a fourth).

 

[rifkin]

Question for Redskins Nation:They now have pick # 41 and #49, plus the third rounder. Who do they target?

BPA and hope they get a NT and an offensive lineman.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

I would like to see them take Kapernick, but hoping maybe that Mallett is still there as well, and get trade out again and maybe pick up a 3rd rd pick. Draft Schilling in the 3rd, and the kid from Nova with Jacksonville 2nd rd pick.

 

[MikeApf]

Now they have two other picks in the top 50 + a third rounder...

They now have pick # 41 and #49, plus the third rounder.

They don't have a third rounder (or a fourth).

Ah, I stand corrected, thanks. I guess it's really good then they got another second rounder!

 

[TankRizzo]

Question for Redskins Nation:They now have pick # 41 and #49, plus the third rounder. Who do they target?

BPA and hope they get a NT and an offensive lineman.

As far as NTs go, I'd be happy if they snagged Jerrell Powe on Saturday. Kenrick Ellis has issues.Wonder what happens if Mallett falls to 41.

 

[MikeApf]

Question for Redskins Nation:They now have pick # 41 and #49, plus the third rounder. Who do they target?

BPA and hope they get a NT and an offensive lineman.

As far as NTs go, I'd be happy if they snagged Jerrell Powe on Saturday. Kenrick Ellis has issues.Wonder what happens if Mallett falls to 41.

Good question. Do you guys think that Kaepernick should be the target. How would you rank these three:KaepernickDaltonMalletPicking above the Redskins are still several teams that could use QB help: Buffalo, Arizona, San Fran, right? Will a QB be there for them? Are we looking at going into the season with Grossman being the full year starter? I'm not saying that is a disaster or anything, he may have to play this year regardless. But it would be good to have a young un in the wings...

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Question for Redskins Nation:They now have pick # 41 and #49, plus the third rounder. Who do they target?

BPA and hope they get a NT and an offensive lineman.

As far as NTs go, I'd be happy if they snagged Jerrell Powe on Saturday. Kenrick Ellis has issues.Wonder what happens if Mallett falls to 41.

Good question. Do you guys think that Kaepernick should be the target. How would you rank these three:KaepernickDaltonMalletPicking above the Redskins are still several teams that could use QB help: Buffalo, Arizona, San Fran, right? Will a QB be there for them? Are we looking at going into the season with Grossman being the full year starter? I'm not saying that is a disaster or anything, he may have to play this year regardless. But it would be good to have a young un in the wings...

I really think Beck is going to be the starter this year. He has been training with Rodgers and Brees, and I believe people are over looking him. Give him a shot. And maybe look at Ryan Lindley SDSU, Andrew Luck Stanford next year

 

[TankRizzo]

Question for Redskins Nation:They now have pick # 41 and #49, plus the third rounder. Who do they target?

BPA and hope they get a NT and an offensive lineman.

As far as NTs go, I'd be happy if they snagged Jerrell Powe on Saturday. Kenrick Ellis has issues.Wonder what happens if Mallett falls to 41.

Good question. Do you guys think that Kaepernick should be the target. How would you rank these three:KaepernickDaltonMalletPicking above the Redskins are still several teams that could use QB help: Buffalo, Arizona, San Fran, right? Will a QB be there for them? Are we looking at going into the season with Grossman being the full year starter? I'm not saying that is a disaster or anything, he may have to play this year regardless. But it would be good to have a young un in the wings...

I have them in reverse order from what you listed. My biggest concern with Mallett is character and decision making, but he has the most upside of those 3. Dalton and Kaepernick are a mixed bag of talent. I don't think Kaepernick is worthy of the 2nd round. If you can trade down again and get a 3rd I'd take him there. I just don't see him as any kind of a serious long term option. But if Mallett is there at 41 and we don't get any offers that blow us away, I'd consider taking him. If they go OL, WR or CB with the 41st I'd consider Dalton with the next pick if he were there, which is probably unlikely.

 

[dgreen]

I really think Beck is going to be the starter this year. He has been training with Rodgers and Brees, and I believe people are over looking him. Give him a shot. And maybe look at Ryan Lindley SDSU, Andrew Luck Stanford next year

I guess we know where you think they'll be drafting next year.

 

[MikeApf]

Question for Redskins Nation:They now have pick # 41 and #49, plus the third rounder. Who do they target?

BPA and hope they get a NT and an offensive lineman.

As far as NTs go, I'd be happy if they snagged Jerrell Powe on Saturday. Kenrick Ellis has issues.Wonder what happens if Mallett falls to 41.

Good question. Do you guys think that Kaepernick should be the target. How would you rank these three:KaepernickDaltonMalletPicking above the Redskins are still several teams that could use QB help: Buffalo, Arizona, San Fran, right? Will a QB be there for them? Are we looking at going into the season with Grossman being the full year starter? I'm not saying that is a disaster or anything, he may have to play this year regardless. But it would be good to have a young un in the wings...

I really think Beck is going to be the starter this year. He has been training with Rodgers and Brees, and I believe people are over looking him. Give him a shot. And maybe look at Ryan Lindley SDSU, Andrew Luck Stanford next year

Sure. Why not give him a shot? The Redskins certainly have plenty of other holes to fill that they can use those other draft picks for.

 

[MikeApf]

Question for Redskins Nation:They now have pick # 41 and #49, plus the third rounder. Who do they target?

BPA and hope they get a NT and an offensive lineman.

As far as NTs go, I'd be happy if they snagged Jerrell Powe on Saturday. Kenrick Ellis has issues.Wonder what happens if Mallett falls to 41.

Good question. Do you guys think that Kaepernick should be the target. How would you rank these three:KaepernickDaltonMalletPicking above the Redskins are still several teams that could use QB help: Buffalo, Arizona, San Fran, right? Will a QB be there for them? Are we looking at going into the season with Grossman being the full year starter? I'm not saying that is a disaster or anything, he may have to play this year regardless. But it would be good to have a young un in the wings...

I have them in reverse order from what you listed. My biggest concern with Mallett is character and decision making, but he has the most upside of those 3. Dalton and Kaepernick are a mixed bag of talent. I don't think Kaepernick is worthy of the 2nd round. If you can trade down again and get a 3rd I'd take him there. I just don't see him as any kind of a serious long term option. But if Mallett is there at 41 and we don't get any offers that blow us away, I'd consider taking him. If they go OL, WR or CB with the 41st I'd consider Dalton with the next pick if he were there, which is probably unlikely.

The problem this year with QBs is that you get the impression that folks are panicing and picking QBs too early. Almost all of these guys are question marks and it's well documented how many early round QBs just don't make a splash in the NFL. The more I think about it, the more I think it's really important that the Redskins honestly assess what they have in McNabb (yes, McNabb), Grossman, and Beck and honestly ask themselves if one of the QBs left is a better prospect than those guys.It could all be moot. All three of these guys may be gone by 41 if the panic run continues and at that point, then you can't dip down to the next level yet.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

last night we mad a Patriots type of move, and I'm happy. So lets be happy for a few hours, because this team doesnt give that to us a lot.

 

[Dexter Manley]

Loved what the Redskins did last night. When the trade down was announced, that was the happiest I've been when the Skins have been on the clock making a pick in a long time.

Kerrigan fills the second biggest hole on defense (behind NT) at OLB. He will start immediately and be a huge upgrade over Carter and the other guys who played OLB last season. Now they have their bookends at OLB for the 3-4. I'm very excited.

Whoever compared him to Carriker is way off. These guys are nothing alike.

As an added bonus, Dallas really screwed up by not taking what I assume was the same deal offered by Jax. They could of traded down to 16 and almost surely of gotten Smith in addition to the extra 2nd rounder and would of put the kibosh on the Redskins ability to trade down in the process.

 

[nittanylion]

Well, the Cowboys stole our bookend OT at 1.09, who was falling like a gift from heaven...BUT we resisted temptation and didn't take Gabbert, which, for me, was a HUGE relief. Although we passed on Prince (who I now have to watch in Giants blue for the next several Seasons), and in so doing bypassed 'completing' our Secondary, I have no problem with Kerrigan, who IMO is a perfect bookend to Orakpo, is capable of starting right out of the gate, and who can not only be a playmaker in his own right, but could serve as an amplifier to make our D's primary playmaker (Orakpo) even better. He's a ballhawk and turnover forcer, and the combo of he and Orakpo and Landry (who should now be able to focus more on his wheelhouse (back of the box duties), with Otogwe on board, should also serve to make our average D-Line perform better, as having 2 guys like that on the outside, and London on the inside with Landry behind him, by limiting their responsibilities to primarily occupying blockers.

I'm going to say again what I said last night, so that my comment stands on it's own, so down the road you guys can give me hell if I'm wrong: There is not a QB remaining available in this 2011 Draft who is, IMO, going to have a more illustrious or noteworthy career than Rex Grossman.

Barring a miracle, the Redskins are not going to finish higher than 3rd in the Division in 2011 either.

Therefore, why should we bother investing a pick and our time, energy and effort in developing a QB with no long-term potential when we have so many other holes to fill just to have a respectable roster that can compete on any given Sunday?

This Draft is still loaded with Defensive Players, and foot soldier types that can displace some of the dead weight at a better price tag, and play roles and Special Teams.

Given our situation, Offense (except the O-Line) can wait, particularly QB, until we have a more complete Team to surround a Franchise-caliber QB with. Next year's QB prospects have much better long-term potential than what's left to choose from, and I say this even though I LOVED Stanzi, Kaepernick and Mallett in college. Been hanging with Bloom at the Draft too long not to know how rarely college talent translates to the NFL, and none of these remaining guys appear to have 'it', to me.

Praying for a positive encore to a very solid Day 1 performance by our boys. Here's hoping...

 

[Dexter Manley]

Well, the Cowboys stole our bookend OT at 1.09, who was falling like a gift from heaven...

Are you saying you think the Redskins would of taken Smith at 1.10 had he been available rather than trading down with Jax (assuming Gabbert was still on the board too)?

 

[Sidewinder16]

Well, the Cowboys stole our bookend OT at 1.09, who was falling like a gift from heaven...

Where have you heard of Tyron Smith getting selected before 1.09? I don't recall anyone saying he was worth a higher pick. This OT class is relatively weak (certainly no Trent Williams types that stood out on top) and I've read Smith is somewhat raw and will need some work.

 

[Harjiran]

Sooo...they drafted a guy who they want to move to a 3-4 LB who is unproven in coverage? Awesome

The Skins traded back, picked up another 2nd rounder and took a collegiate DE who, like Brian Orakpo, projects to 3-4 OLB which is a position of need. What are you guys complaining about exactly? Did you have your heart set on Christian Ponder?

No I'm tired of this team having no direction. Either draft players that fit your system or develop your system to fit your players. What we don't need is an outside LB that is a liability in coverage.

Were you opposed to drafting Orakpo? Because he was asked to make a similar transition and that has worked out pretty well. I'm not convinced Kerrigan will be a liability in pass coverage either. He definitely seems to have the speed, hustle and desire to cover TEs and to learn a new system. What the Skins needed was a stud pass rusher opposite Orakpo as well as additional draft picks. They got both yesterday.

 

[Harjiran]

Question for Redskins Nation:They now have pick # 41 and #49, plus the third rounder. Who do they target?

BPA and hope they get a NT and an offensive lineman.

If that happens, the first two days of the draft will have been a resounding success.

 

[FavreCo]

Man, take a look at this team's rostered WRs. Old man Moss and a collection of zeros. Nothing much to work with in this years draft either.

 

[Dexter Manley]

Man, take a look at this team's rostered WRs. Old man Moss and a collection of zeros. Nothing much to work with in this years draft either.

WR is arguably the deepest position in the draft this year. But the Skins don't need to be taking one until the 5th round or later.

 

[Harjiran]

Man, take a look at this team's rostered WRs. Old man Moss and a collection of zeros. Nothing much to work with in this years draft either.

That's a problem best addressed via free agency and next year's draft.

 

[FavreCo]

Man, take a look at this team's rostered WRs. Old man Moss and a collection of zeros. Nothing much to work with in this years draft either.

WR is arguably the deepest position in the draft this year. But the Skins don't need to be taking one until the 5th round or later.

I'm talking game changers. They can get more Malcolm Kelly and that other bum they drafted a few years back in the remaining rounds but why waste the pick.

 

[dgreen]

Were you opposed to drafting Orakpo? Because he was asked to make a similar transition and that has worked out pretty well.

I'm not disagreeing with your overall point, but I'm just going to point out that Orakpo was drafted into a 4-3 and played as a 4-3 DE his rookie year. The transition was by a staff who inherited the roster. He wasn't drafted with the intent to make him transition.

 

[Harjiran]

Were you opposed to drafting Orakpo? Because he was asked to make a similar transition and that has worked out pretty well.

I'm not disagreeing with your overall point, but I'm just going to point out that Orakpo was drafted into a 4-3 and played as a 4-3 DE his rookie year. The transition was by a staff who inherited the roster. He wasn't drafted with the intent to make him transition.

I recall him playing a lot of OLB in the 4-3, not so much at DE, or at least splitting time. Maybe I'm not remembering correctly?

 

[dgreen]

Were you opposed to drafting Orakpo? Because he was asked to make a similar transition and that has worked out pretty well.

I'm not disagreeing with your overall point, but I'm just going to point out that Orakpo was drafted into a 4-3 and played as a 4-3 DE his rookie year. The transition was by a staff who inherited the roster. He wasn't drafted with the intent to make him transition.

I recall him playing a lot of OLB in the 4-3, not so much at DE, or at least splitting time. Maybe I'm not remembering correctly?

Oops, sorry, you're right. He did some DE on passing downs, but played a ton of OLB in the 4-3. But, my main point was that he wasn't drafted to play 3-4 OLB like Kerrigan. Then again, now that I think about it, I guess he was drafted and made an even bigger transition having to to a 4-3 OLB.So, just disregard everything I said.

 

[Sebowski]

Loved what the Redskins did last night. When the trade down was announced, that was the happiest I've been when the Skins have been on the clock making a pick in a long time.

Kerrigan fills the second biggest hole on defense (behind NT) at OLB. He will start immediately and be a huge upgrade over Carter and the other guys who played OLB last season. Now they have their bookends at OLB for the 3-4. I'm very excited.



Whoever compared him to Carriker is way off. These guys are nothing alike.

As an added bonus, Dallas really screwed up by not taking what I assume was the same deal offered by Jax. They could of traded down to 16 and almost surely of gotten Smith in addition to the extra 2nd rounder and would of put the kibosh on the Redskins ability to trade down in the process.

Of course they are. Just look at them.

 

[Sebowski]

I'm surprised no one is talking RB right now. Only one off the board so a lot of value there in a position of need. I don't like any of the WRs that are going to go in the 2nd so I hope we pass on them and pass on a QB for all the reasons mentioned in here already by a couple people. But if the BPA happens to be a RB though, why not?

 

[fatness]

It could all be moot. All three of these guys may be gone by 41 if the panic run continues and at that point, then you can't dip down to the next level yet.

I think all 3 of those QB's will be gone before the Redskins pick at 41. And I looooooooooooove having an extra second round pick, which we got along with Kerrigan (who I see as a starter and a slightly-less-good Orakpo). I think Kerrigan is young, smart, and quick enough to adjust to his pass defense responsibilities far better than Carter could. Carter was older and moved stiffly; Kerrigan from what I've seen moves more fluidly. The other thing to remember about pass rushing OLB's is that their pass responsiblities are lessened when plays take less time. The better the pass rush, the shorter period of time they have to cover someone. So both Orakpo and Kerrigan can benefit the pass defense abilities of the other with their own rush abilities. Of course that'll mean little if we still have a jello blimp at NT. I'd very much like to see them take a NT with one of the 2nd round picks, and a center or guard with the other. The only thing I know bad about Kerrigan is that he's genetically disposed to getting hit in the knees by attackers with hammers. And QB this year doesn't matter so much. It would if there was a talented rookie to grab, but there hasn't been an obvious one this year and Sam Bradford couldn't get this team above .500 this year. So let Beck, Grossman, and whomever else battle it out for starter, with the tie going to Beck.

 

[MikeApf]

I'm surprised no one is talking RB right now. Only one off the board so a lot of value there in a position of need. I don't like any of the WRs that are going to go in the 2nd so I hope we pass on them and pass on a QB for all the reasons mentioned in here already by a couple people. But if the BPA happens to be a RB though, why not?

A lot of mocks I see have LaShore going in the mid second. Depending on what kind of WR or RB you think you could pull out in rounds 5-7, he may be worth nabbing over some WRs. Other mocks I see have the Skins taking WR Cobb out of Kentucky at 41 or 49. Definitely WR is a need, particularly if Moss is sent packing. But RB is a need too, in light of the fact that Torrain is injury prone. If they could keep Torrain on the field, then I'd say WR over RB, but as it stands, a LaShore/Torrain platooning backfield wouldn't be the worst of all scenarios.Either way, they will have the opportunity to select a player. A whole lot depends on how much they like their chances rolling the dice with Beck and/or Grossman. That would give you the opportunity to go for a NT and then a different offensive skill position.Draft is interesting this year.

 

[MikeApf]

It could all be moot. All three of these guys may be gone by 41 if the panic run continues and at that point, then you can't dip down to the next level yet.

I think all 3 of those QB's will be gone before the Redskins pick at 41. And I looooooooooooove having an extra second round pick, which we got along with Kerrigan (who I see as a starter and a slightly-less-good Orakpo). I think Kerrigan is young, smart, and quick enough to adjust to his pass defense responsibilities far better than Carter could. Carter was older and moved stiffly; Kerrigan from what I've seen moves more fluidly. The other thing to remember about pass rushing OLB's is that their pass responsiblities are lessened when plays take less time. The better the pass rush, the shorter period of time they have to cover someone. So both Orakpo and Kerrigan can benefit the pass defense abilities of the other with their own rush abilities. Of course that'll mean little if we still have a jello blimp at NT. I'd very much like to see them take a NT with one of the 2nd round picks, and a center or guard with the other. The only thing I know bad about Kerrigan is that he's genetically disposed to getting hit in the knees by attackers with hammers. And QB this year doesn't matter so much. It would if there was a talented rookie to grab, but there hasn't been an obvious one this year and Sam Bradford couldn't get this team above .500 this year. So let Beck, Grossman, and whomever else battle it out for starter, with the tie going to Beck.

We desparately need a NT. Picking up leftovers in Free Agency last year didn't work so well. Is there supposed to be a good value at NT in mid second round? I'll admit that I do not know.

 

[Harjiran]

We desparately need a NT. Picking up leftovers in Free Agency last year didn't work so well. Is there supposed to be a good value at NT in mid second round? I'll admit that I do not know.

NT Stephen Paea could fall to us at #41. That would be a steal.

 

[MikeApf]

We desparately need a NT. Picking up leftovers in Free Agency last year didn't work so well. Is there supposed to be a good value at NT in mid second round? I'll admit that I do not know.

NT Stephen Paea could fall to us at #41. That would be a steal.

Right...now I remember seeing his name. Good call. That is certainly something to look for this evening.

 

[thayman]

Sooo...they drafted a guy who they want to move to a 3-4 LB who is unproven in coverage? Awesome

The Skins traded back, picked up another 2nd rounder and took a collegiate DE who, like Brian Orakpo, projects to 3-4 OLB which is a position of need. What are you guys complaining about exactly? Did you have your heart set on Christian Ponder?

No I'm tired of this team having no direction. Either draft players that fit your system or develop your system to fit your players. What we don't need is an outside LB that is a liability in coverage.

Were you opposed to drafting Orakpo? Because he was asked to make a similar transition and that has worked out pretty well. I'm not convinced Kerrigan will be a liability in pass coverage either. He definitely seems to have the speed, hustle and desire to cover TEs and to learn a new system. What the Skins needed was a stud pass rusher opposite Orakpo as well as additional draft picks. They got both yesterday.

Orakpo's biggest weakness is dropping back into coverage. Drafting another outside LB whose biggest weakness is dropping into coverage isn't the best idea.I will admit that my opinion of this staff's ability to evaluate talent is very low.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Sooo...they drafted a guy who they want to move to a 3-4 LB who is unproven in coverage? Awesome

The Skins traded back, picked up another 2nd rounder and took a collegiate DE who, like Brian Orakpo, projects to 3-4 OLB which is a position of need. What are you guys complaining about exactly? Did you have your heart set on Christian Ponder?

No I'm tired of this team having no direction. Either draft players that fit your system or develop your system to fit your players. What we don't need is an outside LB that is a liability in coverage.

Were you opposed to drafting Orakpo? Because he was asked to make a similar transition and that has worked out pretty well. I'm not convinced Kerrigan will be a liability in pass coverage either. He definitely seems to have the speed, hustle and desire to cover TEs and to learn a new system. What the Skins needed was a stud pass rusher opposite Orakpo as well as additional draft picks. They got both yesterday.

Orakpo's biggest weakness is dropping back into coverage. Drafting another outside LB whose biggest weakness is dropping into coverage isn't the best idea.I will admit that my opinion of this staff's ability to evaluate talent is very low.

This defense is modeled after the Steelers, in many ways. We've even got Lou Spanos to coach our LB's.Maybe you haven't noticed, but the Steeler's defense does many things to cover for the fact that their OLB's can't cover that well. They are pass-rush specialists who play all 4 downs. And their defense schemes around that, and effectively "hides" it.I realize the talent level isn't the same between these two defenses, but its not crazy to think that that's the end-goal.

 

[scoobygang]

We desparately need a NT. Picking up leftovers in Free Agency last year didn't work so well. Is there supposed to be a good value at NT in mid second round? I'll admit that I do not know.

NT Stephen Paea could fall to us at #41. That would be a steal.

Paea is 303 lbs. He seems to project to a five technique (or a one gap tackle or 3 technique in the 4-3)more than a 3-4 nose tackle (I guess he's similar to Jay Ratliff, but Ratliff is an exception).

 

[southeastjerome]

Not a fan of Kerrigan, but I hope he works out. He's a great effort guy, but I just think his lack of athleticism will catch up with him in the nfl. Especially as a 3-4 OLB. I would love to be wrong.

Kind of happy to see that Kap and Dalton are gone. Would love to see Paea or Marvin Austin with this first pick in the 2nd. And Randall Cobb with the 2nd.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Barring a trade Paea should be there. Hopefully someone wants to jump up and grab Mallett

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Not sure if I like Jenkins, someone help me out

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

From our old buddy via twitter

JasonLaCanfora Jason La Canfora

Skins take Jarvis Jenkins from Clemson. Nice pick. Good 3-4 fit. Was rising. Ends up going before Clemson teammate Bowers.

 

[Sebowski]

Jenkins will play DE in a 3-4, right? Maybe Paea will still be there when it comes back to us.

Really loving that trade down.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Would like to see them trade down again, and go after some OL help