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***OFFICIAL*** Washington Redskins 2011 Off-Season Thread (1 Viewer)
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Nightly Mistake
Footballguy
I'll believe this when I see it.
Sidewinder16
Footballguy
If the "official" depth chart means anything (and I don't necessarily believe that it does), Jarmon and Bryant should be the odd men out if 6 are to be active. I would think especially so, given neither of them are as versatile in this D as Haynesworth, Carriker, Daniels and Gholston seem to be (IIRC, all of those guys have taken snaps at DE and DT this preseason; maybe even Holliday).Russell's opinion is built on a conversation he had with Haslett where Haslett said 6 DL would be active. Here are the 8 DL on the team:BryantIs Russell normally correct about such things? Is this Shanhan trying to play mind games and throw Dallas off the track? If they deactivated Haynesworth, that would be ######ed.Chris Russell just said a couple things on ESPN980:
He expects Haynesworth to be inactive for the game.
Although Anthony Bryant has been their best nose tackel, he expects Kemoeatu to start there as a reward for all the hard work he's put in.
Nice to know that we're playing with a 52-man roster, and that we aren't starting the best player at each position.
Carriker
Daniels
Gholston
Holliday
Haynesworth
Jarmon
Kemoeatu
He assumed Jarmon would be inactive and his opinion was that Haynesworth seemed like the other guy.
dgreen
Footballguy
Problem is, Bryant has been receiving some praise...in the media at least, not sure if it's coming from coaches. I assumed Holliday would be out.They need to generate pressure with only 4 guys. That will be a lot easier with Haynesworth.If the "official" depth chart means anything (and I don't necessarily believe that it does), Jarmon and Bryant should be the odd men out if 6 are to be active. I would think especially so, given neither of them are as versatile in this D as Haynesworth, Carriker, Daniels and Gholston seem to be (IIRC, all of those guys have taken snaps at DE and DT this preseason; maybe even Holliday).Russell's opinion is built on a conversation he had with Haslett where Haslett said 6 DL would be active. Here are the 8 DL on the team:BryantIs Russell normally correct about such things? Is this Shanhan trying to play mind games and throw Dallas off the track? If they deactivated Haynesworth, that would be ######ed.Chris Russell just said a couple things on ESPN980:
He expects Haynesworth to be inactive for the game.
Although Anthony Bryant has been their best nose tackel, he expects Kemoeatu to start there as a reward for all the hard work he's put in.
Nice to know that we're playing with a 52-man roster, and that we aren't starting the best player at each position.
Carriker
Daniels
Gholston
Holliday
Haynesworth
Jarmon
Kemoeatu
He assumed Jarmon would be inactive and his opinion was that Haynesworth seemed like the other guy.
Sidewinder16
Footballguy
How about a game of "Guess the Inactives". My shot (there's 8, including the 3rd QB, right?):
John Beck
Will Montgomery
Roydell Williams
Logan Paulsen
Darrel Young
Anthony Bryant
Jeremy Jarmon
Perry Riley/Chris Wilson (can't decide which; who plays more ST?)
John Beck
Will Montgomery
Roydell Williams
Logan Paulsen
Darrel Young
Anthony Bryant
Jeremy Jarmon
Perry Riley/Chris Wilson (can't decide which; who plays more ST?)
dgreen
Footballguy
Yes. 46 can actually dress, but one is the emergency QB.
dgreen
Footballguy
Kareem Moore won't dress.
Is Sellers fully healed? If not, they may want to activate Young.
dgreen
Footballguy
Am I missing something? I only see 8 OL on this team, excluding the LS. For some reason, I didn't realize they only kept 8. That's scary. Considering that, I'd activate all OL.If I had to choose between Riley and Wilson, I'd activate Riley. If you don't, you only have three guys (Fletcher, McIntosh, and Blades) to play 2 ILB spots. They have a lot of OLB/DE guys, so Wilson would be out. But, I think I'd go ahead and activate both of them and make either Barnes or Westbrook inactive. Here's my 8:Kevin Barnes/Byron WestbrookJeremy JarmonVonnie HollidayDarrel YoungJohn BeckKareem MooreLogan PaulsenRoydell Williams
Dexter Manley
Footballguy
I thought I read that Riley hasn't been practicing due to injury. Or did I dream that?
dgreen
Footballguy
He apparently fully participated in practice, which should translate to "Probable". Riley and Andre Carter had "limited participation", so it's possible Riley sits.
Dexter Manley
Footballguy
Most teams only activate 7 OL. I would think they would activate another DB or TE instead.
dgreen
Footballguy
Yeah, that's sound familiar now that I think about it more. But, that makes me nervous.I'd activate Barnes/Westbrook in place of Montgomery or Riley if they didn't play. If I had to replace them both, I'd also activate Holliday...I guess.
Sidewinder16
Footballguy
Westbrook is supposed to be the other KR with Thomas. If a CB is sitting, I'd pick Barnes.I could get behind that list.
Dexter Manley
Footballguy
I think they'll activate all 5 CB's and 3 safeties. Westbrook should be a lock to play since he's on special teams.
Sidewinder16
Footballguy
dgreen
Footballguy
Game prediction!
Let's start the season wildly optimistic. Haynesworth won't start, but he'll play a lot and be disruptive. With the Cowboys banged up OL, the pass rush will be the difference for the defense and they'll force 3 turnovers. On offense, they take deep shots early and often, opening up the mid-range passing game and the running game. And to get really crazy, Brandon Banks is the offense's secret weapon. They use him on WR screens and he makes a couple 20+ yard plays. Yeah, he'll also fumble once, but Galloway will recover the fumble (his only time to touch the ball all game) and the good will outweigh the bad for Banks.
Redskins - 23
####### - 9
Kind of sad that I consider that to be "wildly optimistic" and "really crazy".
Let's start the season wildly optimistic. Haynesworth won't start, but he'll play a lot and be disruptive. With the Cowboys banged up OL, the pass rush will be the difference for the defense and they'll force 3 turnovers. On offense, they take deep shots early and often, opening up the mid-range passing game and the running game. And to get really crazy, Brandon Banks is the offense's secret weapon. They use him on WR screens and he makes a couple 20+ yard plays. Yeah, he'll also fumble once, but Galloway will recover the fumble (his only time to touch the ball all game) and the good will outweigh the bad for Banks.
Redskins - 23
####### - 9
Kind of sad that I consider that to be "wildly optimistic" and "really crazy".
Sidewinder16
Footballguy
(ETA: I hope it's obvious I'm not laughing at the score prediction)
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Sidewinder16
Footballguy
fatness, tell me you wrote the question to Keim that prompted the quote above as part of the answer. I swear it "sounds" exactly like you (I honestly mean that with no disrespect; I thought it was a well asked question).
BTW, Russell's rationale for why Fat Albert would sit was that to play him would "reward" him for missing all the OTAs and other off-season stuff and "send the wrong message" to the guys who worked hard all off season and training camp.
:IBTL: we'll find out Sunday afternoon...
:IBTL: we'll find out Sunday afternoon...
Sidewinder16
Footballguy
fatness
Footballguy
No, it wasn't me. I've never talked to a member of the media since I was in college, and told the host of a live radio show he was full of ####. No tape delay, good times.
fatness
Footballguy
I don't know how correct he is. But I'd say he, John Keim, and Rich Campbell have been more plugged in to what's been going on with the Redskins than any other beat reporters. Russell is a very straightforward guy, reports a lot of information and not a lot of opinion. So when he reports an opinion like that, I listen, because he's trying to guess accurately and not just making noise to hear himself talk.
I heard on the radio (it may have been Russell) that Moore and Riley are injured and will not be active. Sellers is questionable. Note that Probable means 98-99% chance of playing, so Questionable must cover something like 35-97% chance of playing.
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Nightly Mistake
Footballguy
I'm beginning to buy into this, especially because Haynesworth is so quiet about all of this. I think Shanny sold him on rolling with this "controversy" and making it into disinformation for the Cowboys. That's also probably why McNabb remains "Questionable" for Sunday.Is Russell normally correct about such things? Is this Shanhan trying to play mind games and throw Dallas off the track? If they deactivated Haynesworth, that would be ######ed.Chris Russell just said a couple things on ESPN980:He expects Haynesworth to be inactive for the game.Although Anthony Bryant has been their best nose tackel, he expects Kemoeatu to start there as a reward for all the hard work he's put in.Nice to know that we're playing with a 52-man roster, and that we aren't starting the best player at each position.
fatness
Footballguy
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netnalp
Footballguy
Either that, or Haynesworth wants out and rather than a few big things to get his release that the Skins could take money back for, he's doing little things then he "corrects that issue" then comes up with a new way to get under the coaches skin. None of the things Haynesworth has done and not done would prevent the PA from supporting him if the Skins tried to recoup some of his contract.I'm beginning to buy into this, especially because Haynesworth is so quiet about all of this. I think Shanny sold him on rolling with this "controversy" and making it into disinformation for the Cowboys. That's also probably why McNabb remains "Questionable" for Sunday.Is Russell normally correct about such things? Is this Shanhan trying to play mind games and throw Dallas off the track? If they deactivated Haynesworth, that would be ######ed.Chris Russell just said a couple things on ESPN980:He expects Haynesworth to be inactive for the game.Although Anthony Bryant has been their best nose tackel, he expects Kemoeatu to start there as a reward for all the hard work he's put in.Nice to know that we're playing with a 52-man roster, and that we aren't starting the best player at each position.
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Sebowski
Footballguy
Let's say Al realy can't play in a 3-4. He doesn't know how to stay home. He creates holes instead of plugging them. For argument's sake let's say that's the case.
I just still can't figure out how the defense is better as a 3-4 with Al on the bench and Carter out of position than as a 4-3 with Al disrupting everything and Carter getting 10+ sacks.
And how about motivating your players to do their best? Isn't that one of the two most important aspects of coaching? Shanny is falling way short here, imo. I don't buy that his hard stance with Al is making everyone else better.
I just still can't figure out how the defense is better as a 3-4 with Al on the bench and Carter out of position than as a 4-3 with Al disrupting everything and Carter getting 10+ sacks.
And how about motivating your players to do their best? Isn't that one of the two most important aspects of coaching? Shanny is falling way short here, imo. I don't buy that his hard stance with Al is making everyone else better.
fatness
Footballguy
I pretty much agree with you. The anti-Haynesworth stance, and perhaps the switch to the 3-4 as well, seem to work against the defense.
southeastjerome
Footballguy
Man, I have a bad feeling tonight. Especially without Randel-El returning punts. I am mystified as to why on earth he returns punts for the Steelers.
Sebowski
Footballguy
I bet Rooney is making Tomlin do it. Only logical explanation, really.
southeastjerome
Footballguy
fatness
Footballguy
fatness
Footballguy
Prediction: Galloway's highest game total of catches this year will be 3. And he'll start at least half the season. He's the new Brunell.Question:Which will occur more tonight - Galloway receptions or shots of #37 Reed D late on the tail end of a TD Cowgirl reception? I've seen that clip of Roy Williams catching a TD over him a dozen times this week
ChrisCooleyFan
Footballguy
Funny that you said that flipping through games today. ARE didnt call for a fair catch and got lit up. The announcer said that ARE is a GREAT returner that knows what he's doing, and there isnt many players out there as GREAT as ARE!!!!!! I almost fell off the sofa.
Johnny Ice
Footballguy
Yeah baby!!!!!! Great win, our offense will put it together eventually. We are going to play strong this year.
ChrisCooleyFan
Footballguy
Trent Williams gets an A- from me. Would of been an A if not for the false start.
PinkydaPimp
Footballguy
the D looks tough!!!!!!
Sidewinder16
Footballguy
They had their moments. They had a few bad moments, too.Any win against Dallas is a good win, though. :X
There were lots of positives and some questions too.
I think the offense will get on track if they stick with the running game. In the first half, it didn't seem like they were getting anything on the ground. But by the second half, they were getting some longer runs on the ground. That tells me they need to stick with that and wear the opponent down. McNabb is much more quick with his decision making than Campbell and I think he will find more of a groove the more the running game gives him some breathing room.
As with last year though, we really need to find a way to get it into the end zone...that is really frustrating and it won't get it done against Houston.
Defensively, I love the fact that we will attack at the end instead of going into prevent D. The Cowboys almost came back, but I like the aggressiveness to go at it.
The team is obviously a work in progress but they were gutsy and fought hard and for that I respect them very much!
I think the offense will get on track if they stick with the running game. In the first half, it didn't seem like they were getting anything on the ground. But by the second half, they were getting some longer runs on the ground. That tells me they need to stick with that and wear the opponent down. McNabb is much more quick with his decision making than Campbell and I think he will find more of a groove the more the running game gives him some breathing room.
As with last year though, we really need to find a way to get it into the end zone...that is really frustrating and it won't get it done against Houston.
Defensively, I love the fact that we will attack at the end instead of going into prevent D. The Cowboys almost came back, but I like the aggressiveness to go at it.
The team is obviously a work in progress but they were gutsy and fought hard and for that I respect them very much!
ChrisCooleyFan
Footballguy
When is the last time we won a primetime game?
ChrisCooleyFan
Footballguy
Just asked Alex Barron if he knew the game was going to be held during the VMAs. He said thats not all thats going to get held
ChrisCooleyFan
Footballguy
25.00 to park, 150.00 dollars for a ticket, Dallas celebrating a TD that gets called back. PRICELESS!!
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