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***OFFICIAL*** Washington Redskins 2011 Off-Season Thread (3 Viewers)

Keim's wrapup of the Dallas game.

Rookie left tackle Trent Williams never needed, or received, help in pass protection even when facing All-Pro linebacker DeMarcus Ware. Heck, he didn’t need it at any time. There was one time in 34 called pass plays in which it appeared running back Clinton Portis tried to chip Ware as he ran out on a route, though it did not look like part of the planned play. Otherwise, Williams handled this role by himself. Yes, he got beat a couple times. But in my unofficial count, Williams faced Ware 14 times in pass protection and lost twice. There were at least two other times in which Ware appeared to beat him only to have Williams recover.
There were three passes thrown to Mike Sellers. Two were dropped. Why? Because he did the same thing he always does: he looked upfield before he caught the ball. The other pass gained three yards. Sellers has his role, but over the years, with some exceptions, he hasn't been sure-handed or reliable in these situations. Sellers had issues with Ware; yes, everyone does but Cooley actually fared well when matched against him.
 
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Clinton Portis and Albert Haynesworth performed a scripted skit for reporters in the locker room Thursday afternoon in which Portis declined to answer questions and Haynesworth covered the running back's mouth with strips of black athletic tape.

A Redskins media relations official informed reporters that Portis, who apologized for inappropriate comments he made about female reporters earlier this week, was ready for his scheduled weekly media availability. When reporters approached Portis at his dressing stall, however, he initially did not speak. When a reporter asked Portis about his ill-advised comments during the radio interview, he held up a spiral notebook with "No Comment" written on one of the pages while Haynesworth, standing to Portis's left, tore a piece of tape and applied it to Portis's lips.

When a reporter asked about Sunday's game against the Houston Texans, Portis turned the page and held up the notebook again: "Thanks For Coming." Haynesworth applied another piece of black tape.

As reporters continued in vain to engage Portis, up went the notebook twice more: "God Bless You" and "Have A Good Day." Haynesworth did his part with more tape, and then the players left the locker room together.
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HAHAHAAH...that's good stuff.It would have been great if a final page of the notebook simply had a picture of a Fed Ex "package..."

 
Lots of good information in Rich Campbell's Dallas game analysis.

CB DeAngelo Hall: Simply put, Hall played a monster game. It probably was his best since joining the Redskins. His strip of Dallas RB Tashard Choice and subsequent fumble return for a touchdown changed the game. His approach was perfect, too: Wrap up the ballcarrier first and then go for the ball. His contributions went way beyond that, though. Hall demonstrated some of the best tackling technique he ever has. He tackled WR Roy Williams in bounds on the final drive to keep the clock ticking with less than a minute to go. On the next play, he hauled down TE Jason Witten in bounds. He broke up a pass intended for WR Dez Bryant on third-and-10 with 20 seconds left. He batted down a third-down pass on a corner blitz on Dallas’ first series. He was the MVP of this win.

RB Clinton Portis (pass blocker): Portis put on a pass-blocking clinic, showing why he’s probably the best in the game at it. He doesn’t just sit back and absorb blitzers; he takes the punishment to them by getting low and hurling his body. His violent approach is so fun to watch.
 
Lots of good information in Rich Campbell's Dallas game analysis.

CB DeAngelo Hall: Simply put, Hall played a monster game. It probably was his best since joining the Redskins. His strip of Dallas RB Tashard Choice and subsequent fumble return for a touchdown changed the game. His approach was perfect, too: Wrap up the ballcarrier first and then go for the ball. His contributions went way beyond that, though. Hall demonstrated some of the best tackling technique he ever has. He tackled WR Roy Williams in bounds on the final drive to keep the clock ticking with less than a minute to go. On the next play, he hauled down TE Jason Witten in bounds. He broke up a pass intended for WR Dez Bryant on third-and-10 with 20 seconds left. He batted down a third-down pass on a corner blitz on Dallas’ first series. He was the MVP of this win.

RB Clinton Portis (pass blocker): Portis put on a pass-blocking clinic, showing why he’s probably the best in the game at it. He doesn’t just sit back and absorb blitzers; he takes the punishment to them by getting low and hurling his body. His violent approach is so fun to watch.
One note: It looked was throwing away from Carlos Rogers. He was involved in very few plays.
 
dgreen said:
Sounds like this is a good video. Unfortunately, the video won't load for me at work. It quickly says "Video Loading" then just says "Video will start shortly" but it never starts. I think I had the same problem last year when everyone was watching the video of Zorn talking to Campbell.

Anywhere else to watch it?
I doubt there is anywhere else legitimate to watch it. Check to make sure any ad-block feature of your browser is turned off and reload the page. You could try the same with pop-up blockers, but I doubt that's the problem.And the video is good. Loved the part with him arguing with the officials over the late hit penalty Fletcher got on Dez Bryant. Also, loved the look at in-game adjustments he's apparently making. At one point he's looking at his play sheet and saying basically "No, we have to do something different. They're beating the **** out of us. We have to spread them out."

I think if anything can be learned from this video it's that play calling is generally a team effort between him and Kyle, but he definitely has the ultimate say on what will happen next, and will take over in important situations.

 
MikeApf said:
What do you guys think the Redskins need to do? How do you approach this game?
Offense, offense, offense. It needs to click this week. Like you said, Houston will score. We need to keep up.
 
dgreen said:
Sounds like this is a good video. Unfortunately, the video won't load for me at work. It quickly says "Video Loading" then just says "Video will start shortly" but it never starts. I think I had the same problem last year when everyone was watching the video of Zorn talking to Campbell.

Anywhere else to watch it?
I doubt there is anywhere else legitimate to watch it. Check to make sure any ad-block feature of your browser is turned off and reload the page. You could try the same with pop-up blockers, but I doubt that's the problem.
Found it here.
I think if anything can be learned from this video it's that play calling is generally a team effort between him and Kyle, but he definitely has the ultimate say on what will happen next, and will take over in important situations.
That makes Kyle look like a Yes Man. Hopefully he's not completely in his ear on most calls.
 
What Lavar Arrington thinks the Skins have to do to slow down Houston's rushing game.

I believe Redskins defensive coordinator Jim Haslett understands that teams are having success running against his defense inside. To change this, the nose tackle is going to have to be more effective pushing the center into the backfield.
I completely agree here and have said it previously in this thread (well, some thread around here). The NT is the anchor point of the 3-4. If the NT can't occupy two blockers and stand firm on running plays, the defense simply won't work against the run. That's absolutely necessary when you've got two brand new and arguably ill-suited OLB's, an undersized ILB in Fletcher, and a brand new ILB in McIntosh. They need all the help they can get to flow to the ball. I think the Dallas game would have been far worse in this regard had not Landry not been flying all over the way he was.
 
I think if anything can be learned from this video it's that play calling is generally a team effort between him and Kyle, but he definitely has the ultimate say on what will happen next, and will take over in important situations.
That makes Kyle look like a Yes Man. Hopefully he's not completely in his ear on most calls.
The video or my comment?IMO, I think the video makes Kyle look like the OC and Mike like the HC. From everything I've read/heard, the picture I get is that Kyle helped put the playbook together, he helps game plan each week, he literally "calls the plays" (passes the call on to McNabb every down) and he helps call the plays in that he has at least an equal say in what specific play is run on most downs. All that said, I think this is Mike's offense and, when he has something he's sure is going to work in a specific situation, his opinion/say/gut feeling/etc. trumps all.

That seems like a pretty typical way of running an offense when there is an "offensive minded" HC.

 
I think if anything can be learned from this video it's that play calling is generally a team effort between him and Kyle, but he definitely has the ultimate say on what will happen next, and will take over in important situations.
That makes Kyle look like a Yes Man. Hopefully he's not completely in his ear on most calls.
The video or my comment?IMO, I think the video makes Kyle look like the OC and Mike like the HC. From everything I've read/heard, the picture I get is that Kyle helped put the playbook together, he helps game plan each week, he literally "calls the plays" (passes the call on to McNabb every down) and he helps call the plays in that he has at least an equal say in what specific play is run on most downs. All that said, I think this is Mike's offense and, when he has something he's sure is going to work in a specific situation, his opinion/say/gut feeling/etc. trumps all.

That seems like a pretty typical way of running an offense when there is an "offensive minded" HC.
The video. Mike makes suggestions and Kyle says "Yes". I'm not saying that's the way it is, just that the small window the video provides makes it appear as if Kyle just does what Mike wants. In the small sample of plays we saw in the video, we didn't see Kyle say, "No, I don't think we should do that. I think we should do this."
 
I think if anything can be learned from this video it's that play calling is generally a team effort between him and Kyle, but he definitely has the ultimate say on what will happen next, and will take over in important situations.
That makes Kyle look like a Yes Man. Hopefully he's not completely in his ear on most calls.
The video or my comment?IMO, I think the video makes Kyle look like the OC and Mike like the HC. From everything I've read/heard, the picture I get is that Kyle helped put the playbook together, he helps game plan each week, he literally "calls the plays" (passes the call on to McNabb every down) and he helps call the plays in that he has at least an equal say in what specific play is run on most downs. All that said, I think this is Mike's offense and, when he has something he's sure is going to work in a specific situation, his opinion/say/gut feeling/etc. trumps all.

That seems like a pretty typical way of running an offense when there is an "offensive minded" HC.
The video. Mike makes suggestions and Kyle says "Yes". I'm not saying that's the way it is, just that the small window the video provides makes it appear as if Kyle just does what Mike wants. In the small sample of plays we saw in the video, we didn't see Kyle say, "No, I don't think we should do that. I think we should do this."
And of course there's the input on every play from Sherm Lewis.
 
The video. Mike makes suggestions and Kyle says "Yes". I'm not saying that's the way it is, just that the small window the video provides makes it appear as if Kyle just does what Mike wants. In the small sample of plays we saw in the video, we didn't see Kyle say, "No, I don't think we should do that. I think we should do this."
:shrug:It may be from the sample size, but if I were the OC with essentially just 1 season of playcalling under my belt, and my dad was the 2-time Super Bowl winning, 16-year head coaching veteran, I'd probably defer to him on just about everything, as well. Especially in game 1 of our first season working together.
 
The video. Mike makes suggestions and Kyle says "Yes". I'm not saying that's the way it is, just that the small window the video provides makes it appear as if Kyle just does what Mike wants. In the small sample of plays we saw in the video, we didn't see Kyle say, "No, I don't think we should do that. I think we should do this."
:confused:It may be from the sample size, but if I were the OC with essentially just 1 season of playcalling under my belt, and my dad was the 2-time Super Bowl winning, 16-year head coaching veteran, I'd probably defer to him on just about everything, as well. Especially in game 1 of our first season working together.
I think the focus of the video was Mike, not Kyle...therefore they were picking the clips where Mike was making decisions. I read elsewhere where Mike said that he was letting Kyle "run the offensive show" most of the time. Who knows. Game day play calling is really only one sliver of the equation anyway. Mapping out the whole offensive scheme, etc. happens far before any games are played and again, I've read where Kyle's input on this was very significant...
 
The video. Mike makes suggestions and Kyle says "Yes". I'm not saying that's the way it is, just that the small window the video provides makes it appear as if Kyle just does what Mike wants. In the small sample of plays we saw in the video, we didn't see Kyle say, "No, I don't think we should do that. I think we should do this."
:)It may be from the sample size, but if I were the OC with essentially just 1 season of playcalling under my belt, and my dad was the 2-time Super Bowl winning, 16-year head coaching veteran, I'd probably defer to him on just about everything, as well. Especially in game 1 of our first season working together.
I think the focus of the video was Mike, not Kyle...therefore they were picking the clips where Mike was making decisions. I read elsewhere where Mike said that he was letting Kyle "run the offensive show" most of the time. Who knows. Game day play calling is really only one sliver of the equation anyway. Mapping out the whole offensive scheme, etc. happens far before any games are played and again, I've read where Kyle's input on this was very significant...
Yeah, I'm not doubting that Kyle isn't a key cog to the offensive machine. And I don't think Kyle is simply a "Yes Man". But I also don't doubt that this is Mike's offense. Maybe a better way of saying it would be that this is Mike's team (as it should be). Kyle may have the freedom to do a lot on his own in-game, but I don't think that changes who has the final say in any offensive matter. That's what I think the video reflected.
 
Some posters are making a lot of improved coaching, but if Jim Zorn had burned two TOs within the first five minutes of the second half, we'd be roasting him.
The same could also be said about the exact same play being called back-to-back and failing both times (fades to Armstrong).
Or about "taking points off the board."I would have defended Zorn if he had made the same decision there and had the same result, but God knows some fans would have been complaining.
Another contrast in the free passes Shanahan will get that Zorn wouldn't (I know, :deadhorse: by now) from the NFL.com video dgreen linked: people would have made a mockery out of Zorn if Danny Smith had to grab him by the arm at the end of Sunday's game and tell him the game was over because of the 10 second runoff rule, especially if Zorn had to also ask if Dallas still had a timeout. But that's exactly what happened to Shanahan and I doubt you'll hear a peep about it.
 
Some posters are making a lot of improved coaching, but if Jim Zorn had burned two TOs within the first five minutes of the second half, we'd be roasting him.
The same could also be said about the exact same play being called back-to-back and failing both times (fades to Armstrong).
Or about "taking points off the board."I would have defended Zorn if he had made the same decision there and had the same result, but God knows some fans would have been complaining.
Another contrast in the free passes Shanahan will get that Zorn wouldn't (I know, :lmao: by now) from the NFL.com video dgreen linked: people would have made a mockery out of Zorn if Danny Smith had to grab him by the arm at the end of Sunday's game and tell him the game was over because of the 10 second runoff rule, especially if Zorn had to also ask if Dallas still had a timeout. But that's exactly what happened to Shanahan and I doubt you'll hear a peep about it.
Yeah, I noticed that. After he asked if they had a timeout, I thought, " :wall: Doesn't matter. Game's over."
 
dgreen said:
Sounds like this is a good video. Unfortunately, the video won't load for me at work. It quickly says "Video Loading" then just says "Video will start shortly" but it never starts. I think I had the same problem last year when everyone was watching the video of Zorn talking to Campbell.

Anywhere else to watch it?
ESPN980 is supposed to have the audio up on their website, but I haven't found it yet in their audio vault.
 
dgreen said:
Sounds like this is a good video. Unfortunately, the video won't load for me at work. It quickly says "Video Loading" then just says "Video will start shortly" but it never starts. I think I had the same problem last year when everyone was watching the video of Zorn talking to Campbell.

Anywhere else to watch it?
Worked for me on Firefox. It was a cool video, BTW. Shanny shows a LOT more passion on the sideline than he does at the podium. Pretty cool.
 
It's nice to see the defense attempting to pressure the opponent, instead of laying back, being predictably, and trying to contain them.

Landry and his teammates had become accustomed the last two years to the conservative coverage style of Greg Blache, who rushed four and dropped seven. Haslett is more like Gregg Williams.

Haslett called an unofficial 30 blitzes (five or more pass rushers) in 54 Romo drop-backs, and he didn’t let up with the game on the line, calling six blitzes on Dallas’ final 12 plays. The Redskins’ pressure caused the Cowboys to commit a holding call on the final play, disallowing a touchdown and giving Washington a 13-7 win.

“It’s the right thing to do,” said Redskins defensive backs coach Bob Slowik, a former defensive coordinator with four NFL teams. “You get in those situations and if you make it predictable for the offense, it makes it easier for the offense.”

Although the Redskins had only one sack, they drew four holding penalties, and the coaching staff credited their players with 17 quarterback hurries.
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From Rich Tandler. I bolded the interesting parts.

Point—The Redskins were flat out lucky to have a 10-0 lead at halftime. First, the Dallas kicker missed a 34-yard field-goal attempt. That’s about a 90 percent proposition for even mediocre NFL kickers. And then four professional football people, three of them very highly paid, had to have brain lock at the same time in order for the Cowboys to run that final play of the half. Jason Garrett should have called for a kneel down. Wade Phillips should have overruled him (there are reports—seriously—that Phillips was joking with the other defensive coaches about Mike Shanahan being “stupid” for declining a holding penalty on the previous play, a decision that Shanahan reversed before it was too late). Tony Romo should have either heaved the 'Hail Mary' that Garrett called or taken the sack. Tashard Choice should not have tried to fight his way through three defenders almost 70 yards from the goal line with time expired. In no particular order, dumb, dumber, more dumber, and dumbest.

Counterpoint—First let’s talk about the field goal. Certainly, there is an element of luck involved when an NFL kicker misses a field goal from that distance. But Shanahan helped to push the odds in his team’s favor by accepting the offensive pass interference penalty two plays before the kick. A lot of coaches would have conceded the points by declining the penalty and letting Dallas kick a virtual extra point with the line of scrimmage at the five. Shanahan believed in his defense and pushed the Cowboys back. Romo threw incomplete on third down, and the longer field goal went wide right. And two things on the play at the end of the half. First, Phillips having brain lock at times during a game isn’t luck. It’s just one of the natural advantages of playing against the Dallas Cowboys. Also, the Redskins still had to make the play. If the team doesn’t spend all spring and summer working on yanking the football out of ball carriers’ arms, maybe they don’t force the fumble.
 
Apologies if this has been covered. LOVED the gold pants with the burgundy jerseys! :thumbup:

Memories of Chris Hanburger, Diron Talbert, Larry Brown, Billy Kilmer, etc. :old guy:

Was that just something special for opening day, or are they here to stay?

 
Apologies if this has been covered. LOVED the gold pants with the burgundy jerseys! :wub: Memories of Chris Hanburger, Diron Talbert, Larry Brown, Billy Kilmer, etc. :old guy:Was that just something special for opening day, or are they here to stay?
I believe those will be our home jerseys from here on out. Bruce Allen likes his history. He said he loves our colors (burgundy and gold) and wants to show them off. :confused:
 
Apologies if this has been covered. LOVED the gold pants with the burgundy jerseys! :wub:

Memories of Chris Hanburger, Diron Talbert, Larry Brown, Billy Kilmer, etc. :old guy:

Was that just something special for opening day, or are they here to stay?
I believe those will be our home jerseys from here on out. Bruce Allen likes his history. He said he loves our colors (burgundy and gold) and wants to show them off. :confused:
He certainly should. I'm sure he spent a fair amount of time as a young man in the "Over the Hill Gang's" locker room.
 
I believe those will be our home jerseys from here on out. Bruce Allen likes his history. He said he loves our colors (burgundy and gold) and wants to show them off. :confused:
I've been waiting so many years for them to go back to wearing uniforms that say "Washington Redskins". Now they're back. :thumbup:
 
Apologies if this has been covered. LOVED the gold pants with the burgundy jerseys! :wub: Memories of Chris Hanburger, Diron Talbert, Larry Brown, Billy Kilmer, etc. :old guy:Was that just something special for opening day, or are they here to stay?
I believe those will be our home jerseys from here on out. Bruce Allen likes his history. He said he loves our colors (burgundy and gold) and wants to show them off. :lol:
:lmao:
 
As a child of Gibbs 1.0, I've always been partial to the home whites. But, I have to admit, these new/old uniforms are nice. I think it's the gold pants that make it work for me. Now they just have to get those jerseys to be true burgundy. I heard Bruce Allen say that Reebok has some work to do on that.

 
As a child of Gibbs 1.0, I've always been partial to the home whites. But, I have to admit, these new/old uniforms are nice. I think it's the gold pants that make it work for me. Now they just have to get those jerseys to be true burgundy. I heard Bruce Allen say that Reebok has some work to do on that.
Interesting. While I like the new home unis, my first reaction was that the britches were too yellow rather than gold. I seem to recall Sonny's era having a bit darker pants.
 
As a child of Gibbs 1.0, I've always been partial to the home whites. But, I have to admit, these new/old uniforms are nice. I think it's the gold pants that make it work for me. Now they just have to get those jerseys to be true burgundy. I heard Bruce Allen say that Reebok has some work to do on that.
Same here.The home whites are "tradition" for me and I've always been partial to them as well. But I REALLY like the gold pants. Interested to see what they look like with the current white jersey and if they can get a true burgundy jersey that would look even better.Very curious as to what the uniform choices will be throughout the season.
 
I absolutely love the burgendy and gold jerseys. As a 8 year old kid it was the B&G that made me fall in love with the team. I actually felt like I was 8 again watching them play in those jerseys. I have pine'd for that look for a while. I used to have this huge Dave Butz Poster in my room.

Hail.

 
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No way on V Jackson. He is the same move the Skins made for the past 10 years. You pay a lot, commit to a long term deal, and likely don't get that much in return. He's a decent player, but not a stud, and certainly not worth the money or the potential headaches.

 
No way on V Jackson. He is the same move the Skins made for the past 10 years. You pay a lot, commit to a long term deal, and likely don't get that much in return. He's a decent player, but not a stud, and certainly not worth the money or the potential headaches.
I agree, I'm fine without him, I'm just talking about the fact that Shanahan mentioned it as a possibility.
 
So no chatter in here about VJax? :mellow:
They could use him in the worst way. They basically have one legit NFL WR, and you saw that last weekend. But they'd have to part with a high draft pick or picks to get him, and I'm not in favor of letting go of any more high draft picks.
 
In an interview shortly after the Redskins' 13-7 victory in Week 1, Dallas Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo said he had never seen so many corner blitzes in one game.

And to hear Redskins players tell it, defensive coordinator Jim Haslett is only getting started. "People see it on the film," outside linebacker Lorenzo Alexander said. "I think in the past, you were able to predict, pretty much, who was coming [on blitzes], and last year it was really just Rak [outside linebacker Brian Orakpo]. "Now, it's corners, safeties, inside linebackers, outside linebackers, so it throws guys off. And since they weren't full strength on the offensive line, you saw them really getting the ball out of Romo's hand real quick. That really helped us as far as slowing them down and not letting them get into rhythm."

The athletic Romo is skilled at avoiding the rush, so Haslett called corner blitzes, partly in an effort to apply as much pressure as possible from the edge. Texans quarterback Matt Schaub is not as skilled at scrambling and extending plays as Romo, so it would not be surprising if the Redskins attempted to apply extra pressure through the middle Sunday at FedEx Field.
Jason Reid
 
Dockery has someone pushing for his job. link

Offensive line coach Chris Foerster said coaches are still evaluating their players and trying to settle on the best five. This likely means Kory Lichtensteiger will again see some reps at the left guard spot.

"Obviously, what you want to do is try to get your best five guys on the field and we're still in the process of trying to make that determination," Foerster said Friday.

Last week against the Cowboys, Lichtensteiger relieved Derrick Dockery, who's started 110 straight games in his career. Stephon Heyer also relieved Jammal Brown at right tackle. Foerster would not say whether Brown was ready to play an entire game.
And supposedly Mario Williams will be lining up opposite Jamaal Brown much of the time, though he does move around and may be opposite Trent Williams too.Kareem Moore is out for the Houston game.

 
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"There are a lot of times where linebackers are running in the A-gaps and all of a sudden, Clinton just flies past me and gets a stalemate at the line of scrimmage," McNabb said. "He's a guy you definitely trust in the pass game."

An NFC assistant coach who has analyzed film of Portis said he still approaches blocking with passion. Portis applies maximum effort while blocking, the coach added, saying the Pro Bowl runner obviously studies his "keys" well each week because he usually is in the correct position each time while preparing to take on blitzers. "He does a great job in picking up his keys and holding out with the offensive line as well," McNabb said. "That was definitely a major plus on the offensive side" against the Cowboys.
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I'll take the under. Everything worked perfectly for Houston last week - playing at home, most hated rivals, very emotional game, got out to an early lead, yadda yadda. Plus it WAS the Indy defense.

I expect a game somewhat similar to the Dallas game - lower-scoring than expected, some sloppy play, close game, goes down to the end. The Redskins have played a lot of games like that over the last few years, even with Zorno the clown at coach. We just have a much better chance to win them with Shanahan.

 
Have only been able to catch a play here and there....

Loving the new offense. Two great bombs by McNabb. Portis killed that guy blocking for Davis on his long one.

 

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