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***OFFICIAL*** Washington Redskins 2011 Off-Season Thread (2 Viewers)

Nightly Mistake said:
Raiderfan32904 said:
RIP Lance McCoy. The brother of Washington Redskins defensive lineman Albert Haynesworth was killed in a motorcycle crash Thursday night in Tennessee.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsi...brother-ki.html
Wow. Awful news, and aside from the obvious tragedy for Haynesworth, the last thing he needs right now regarding his play for the team.
doing 100 mph and weaving in/out of traffic? no sympathy for that guy. if that's how he rolls, society is better off without him. might even be some karma smacking fat albert for his road rage that ended with the other driver in a wheel chair. one never knows...

 
Nightly Mistake said:
Raiderfan32904 said:
RIP Lance McCoy. The brother of Washington Redskins defensive lineman Albert Haynesworth was killed in a motorcycle crash Thursday night in Tennessee.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsi...brother-ki.html
Wow. Awful news, and aside from the obvious tragedy for Haynesworth, the last thing he needs right now regarding his play for the team.
doing 100 mph and weaving in/out of traffic? no sympathy for that guy. if that's how he rolls, society is better off without him. might even be some karma smacking fat albert for his road rage that ended with the other driver in a wheel chair. one never knows...
Buster I know you are a passionate fan and seem like a pretty good guy most of the time.....but that's a real **** post.The kid was only 23.

 
doing 100 mph and weaving in/out of traffic? no sympathy for that guy. if that's how he rolls, society is better off without him. might even be some karma smacking fat albert for his road rage that ended with the other driver in a wheel chair. one never knows...
There might be some karma involved in using someone's death to support your dislike of someone. A man died, and that matters. Your opinion of Haynesworth? Not so much.
 
Even if Trent Williams isn't fully recovered, he still won't commit the penalties at god-awful times like Heyer does.

 
Devin Thomas has been cut.

Keiland Williams has been promoted from the practice squad.

 
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Rich Campbell

Regardless of Haynesworth’s availability, defensive coordinator Jim Haslett said DL Vonnie Holliday will play against Green Bay. That makes sense considering the Redskins have used him mostly in passing situations in their nickel package. He was inactive against Philadelphia, as Washington took only five linemen into the game.

“It’s tough,” said Holliday, a 12-year veteran. “I pride myself in being a competitor. When the fire is in the heat of the battle, I want to be in it. When I wasn’t up, I was very disappointed. It was very frustrating. I tried to take it all in stride and still try to be helpful to my teammates. It was a different role—one I’m not used to and one I don’t want to get used to.”

If the Redskins want to keep six linemen up and Haynesworth is not available, NT Anthony Bryant is healthy enough after missing two weeks with a concussion.

“He has had no repercussions from his head,” Shanahan said. “No dizziness or anything like that. Hopefully he’s over it and ready to go.”
Bolded part would be a good signature line.
 
Devin Thomas has been cut.Keiland Williams has been promoted from the practice squad.
Ridiculous. Can't believe the kid never got a chance with the Shannies (plural of Shhanny?). Fast with good hands, moves moves, and a nose for the endzone (see his Giants TD). Too bad too. We could really use a WR that can stretch the field. I wish we had someone like, I don't know, Brandon Lloyd on the team to open up the offense.
 
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Yeah, I think Thomas should have been on the field some this year. If he couldn't cut it during games then I could see cutting him but burying him, not speaking about him, and cutting him doesn't seem the best way to see and use what he's got. How many catches do Roydell Williams and Joey Galloway have anyway?

 
thayman said:
Nightly Mistake said:
RIP Lance McCoy. The brother of Washington Redskins defensive lineman Albert Haynesworth was killed in a motorcycle crash Thursday night in Tennessee.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsi...brother-ki.html
Wow. Awful news, and aside from the obvious tragedy for Haynesworth, the last thing he needs right now regarding his play for the team.
doing 100 mph and weaving in/out of traffic? no sympathy for that guy. if that's how he rolls, society is better off without him. might even be some karma smacking fat albert for his road rage that ended with the other driver in a wheel chair. one never knows...
Buster I know you are a passionate fan and seem like a pretty good guy most of the time.....but that's a real **** post.The kid was only 23.
I don't know the facts, but if hes going 100 on a bike anywhere but on a highway Buster c has a pt as it's 50-50 that this story could have been child/pedestrian killed by biker travelling 100+, though the karma stuff was weak. Same thing with steve Irwin and Houdini. Live by the sword....

 
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thayman said:
Nightly Mistake said:
RIP Lance McCoy. The brother of Washington Redskins defensive lineman Albert Haynesworth was killed in a motorcycle crash Thursday night in Tennessee.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsi...brother-ki.html
Wow. Awful news, and aside from the obvious tragedy for Haynesworth, the last thing he needs right now regarding his play for the team.
doing 100 mph and weaving in/out of traffic? no sympathy for that guy. if that's how he rolls, society is better off without him. might even be some karma smacking fat albert for his road rage that ended with the other driver in a wheel chair. one never knows...
Buster I know you are a passionate fan and seem like a pretty good guy most of the time.....but that's a real **** post.The kid was only 23.
I don't know the facts, but if hes going 100 on a bike anywhere but on a highway Buster c has a pt as it's 50-50 that this story could have been child/pedestrian killed by biker travelling 100+, though the karma stuff was weak. Same thing with steve Irwin and Houdini. Live by the sword....
I did lots of things at 20-23 that were incredibly stupid. I'm sure since you and Buster seem to be such pillars of morality you never did anything in your early 20s that would have remotely endangered anyone at anytime.
 
Yeah, I think Thomas should have been on the field some this year. If he couldn't cut it during games then I could see cutting him but burying him, not speaking about him, and cutting him doesn't seem the best way to see and use what he's got. How many catches do Roydell Williams and Joey Galloway have anyway?
The writing was on the wall when he could not get any offensive snaps against St. Louis when Anthony Armstrong was out. Thomas must look really bad in practice that the coaches have so little confidence in him. Also note that Thomas had trouble getting onto the field under Zorn too.
 
Yeah, I think Thomas should have been on the field some this year. If he couldn't cut it during games then I could see cutting him but burying him, not speaking about him, and cutting him doesn't seem the best way to see and use what he's got. How many catches do Roydell Williams and Joey Galloway have anyway?
The writing was on the wall when he could not get any offensive snaps against St. Louis when Anthony Armstrong was out. Thomas must look really bad in practice that the coaches have so little confidence in him. Also note that Thomas had trouble getting onto the field under Zorn too.
But when he did, he contributed.
 
Dude must have just been EXTREMELY dense. I mean...when Jim Zorn doesn't put you on the field until he absolutely has no other choice, and then Shanahan cuts you without you even sniffing the field other than kick returns....

I'm with you guys, I would have at least stuck him out there to see what he does on gameday, but there hasn't really been a game this year where we've had the leeway to test the waters. Oh well. One more block removed from the Snyderatto era.

 
fatness said:
doing 100 mph and weaving in/out of traffic? no sympathy for that guy. if that's how he rolls, society is better off without him. might even be some karma smacking fat albert for his road rage that ended with the other driver in a wheel chair. one never knows...
There might be some karma involved in using someone's death to support your dislike of someone. A man died, and that matters. Your opinion of Haynesworth? Not so much.
you missed my point. had nothing to do with my opinion of AH. had everything to do with having no sympathy for a man who clearly was a danger to society. I'm not glad he's dead.
 
I don't know the facts, but if hes going 100 on a bike anywhere but on a highway Buster c has a pt as it's 50-50 that this story could have been child/pedestrian killed by biker travelling 100+, though the karma stuff was weak. Same thing with steve Irwin and Houdini. Live by the sword....
I did lots of things at 20-23 that were incredibly stupid. I'm sure since you and Buster seem to be such pillars of morality you never did anything in your early 20s that would have remotely endangered anyone at anytime.
yeah, but I never got sympathy for my knuckleheadedness
 
I don't know the facts, but if hes going 100 on a bike anywhere but on a highway Buster c has a pt as it's 50-50 that this story could have been child/pedestrian killed by biker travelling 100+, though the karma stuff was weak. Same thing with steve Irwin and Houdini. Live by the sword....
I did lots of things at 20-23 that were incredibly stupid. I'm sure since you and Buster seem to be such pillars of morality you never did anything in your early 20s that would have remotely endangered anyone at anytime.
yeah, but I never got sympathy for my knuckleheadedness
You didn't die either. And it's not sympathy it's basic humanity. To come out and just say "The world is a better place with out him" without you knowing anything about the kid is more of a testament to your character that his.
 
you missed my point. had nothing to do with my opinion of AH. had everything to do with having no sympathy for a man who clearly was a danger to society. I'm not glad he's dead.
It's real easy to do what you're doing buster: finding a fresh corpse and setting up a soapbox next to it to say it proves some point of yours. Real easy to do on the internet to show what a tough guy you are, but you'd never do it in real life. That's because you're a coward.And classless as hell.Go to the memorial service and tell his family your opinion, brave guy.
 
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Who else sees a shellacking tomorrow?
If the Skins can run the ball all game, dominate time of possession, get one or two more turnovers than the Packers, then I can see the close game. The Packers are going to score --- there will be little d-line pressure from the Skins due to Haynesworth being out, so Rodgers will have time to pass. The Redskins will have to choose whether to risk blitzing him, or playing the same type of coverage they played against Philly --- limiting the long stuff and good tackling. I can see the Skins staying close if all goes right, or getting thumped if it doesn't.
 
Who else sees a shellacking tomorrow?
If the Skins can run the ball all game, dominate time of possession, get one or two more turnovers than the Packers, then I can see the close game. The Packers are going to score --- there will be little d-line pressure from the Skins due to Haynesworth being out, so Rodgers will have time to pass. The Redskins will have to choose whether to risk blitzing him, or playing the same type of coverage they played against Philly --- limiting the long stuff and good tackling. I can see the Skins staying close if all goes right, or getting thumped if it doesn't.
It's too bad Al isn't playing because the D could really use that pressure up the middle today.
 
Nightly Mistake said:
RIP Lance McCoy. The brother of Washington Redskins defensive lineman Albert Haynesworth was killed in a motorcycle crash Thursday night in Tennessee.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsi...brother-ki.html
Wow. Awful news, and aside from the obvious tragedy for Haynesworth, the last thing he needs right now regarding his play for the team.
doing 100 mph and weaving in/out of traffic? no sympathy for that guy. if that's how he rolls, society is better off without him. might even be some karma smacking fat albert for his road rage that ended with the other driver in a wheel chair. one never knows...
I'm positive that society would be much better off without your sorry ###!
 
fatness said:
Sebowski said:
Who else sees a shellacking tomorrow?
If the Skins can run the ball all game, dominate time of possession, get one or two more turnovers than the Packers, then I can see the close game. The Packers are going to score --- there will be little d-line pressure from the Skins due to Haynesworth being out, so Rodgers will have time to pass. The Redskins will have to choose whether to risk blitzing him, or playing the same type of coverage they played against Philly --- limiting the long stuff and good tackling. I can see the Skins staying close if all goes right, or getting thumped if it doesn't.
:wall: Yeah, that'll put any team in any game.

 
you missed my point. had nothing to do with my opinion of AH. had everything to do with having no sympathy for a man who clearly was a danger to society. I'm not glad he's dead.
It's real easy to do what you're doing buster: finding a fresh corpse and setting up a soapbox next to it to say it proves some point of yours. Real easy to do on the internet to show what a tough guy you are, but you'd never do it in real life. That's because you're a coward.And classless as hell.Go to the memorial service and tell his family your opinion, brave guy.
what kind of fantasy world do you live in where you call someone horrible names - a person you do not know - and then accuse ME of being a coward and classless? you're proving yourself to be a hypocrite. would you say these things to MY face??
 
you missed my point. had nothing to do with my opinion of AH. had everything to do with having no sympathy for a man who clearly was a danger to society. I'm not glad he's dead.
It's real easy to do what you're doing buster: finding a fresh corpse and setting up a soapbox next to it to say it proves some point of yours. Real easy to do on the internet to show what a tough guy you are, but you'd never do it in real life. That's because you're a coward.And classless as hell.Go to the memorial service and tell his family your opinion, brave guy.
what kind of fantasy world do you live in where you call someone horrible names - a person you do not know - and then accuse ME of being a coward and classless? you're proving yourself to be a hypocrite. would you say these things to MY face??
Well the world he lives in probably isn't the same one where you come on here spouting off about how so many NFL players are "human excrement".....then you come on and show joy over a 23 year old kid dying.ETA: and yes I'd gladly say that do your face.
 
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you missed my point. had nothing to do with my opinion of AH. had everything to do with having no sympathy for a man who clearly was a danger to society. I'm not glad he's dead.
It's real easy to do what you're doing buster: finding a fresh corpse and setting up a soapbox next to it to say it proves some point of yours. Real easy to do on the internet to show what a tough guy you are, but you'd never do it in real life. That's because you're a coward.And classless as hell.Go to the memorial service and tell his family your opinion, brave guy.
what kind of fantasy world do you live in where you call someone horrible names - a person you do not know - and then accuse ME of being a coward and classless? you're proving yourself to be a hypocrite. would you say these things to MY face??
Well the world he lives in probably isn't the same one where you come on here spouting off about how so many NFL players are "human excrement".....then you come on and show joy over a 23 year old kid dying.ETA: and yes I'd gladly say that do your face.
what I'd like you to say - here, or to my face - is how you equate "no sympathy" with "showing joy"
 
you missed my point. had nothing to do with my opinion of AH. had everything to do with having no sympathy for a man who clearly was a danger to society. I'm not glad he's dead.
It's real easy to do what you're doing buster: finding a fresh corpse and setting up a soapbox next to it to say it proves some point of yours. Real easy to do on the internet to show what a tough guy you are, but you'd never do it in real life. That's because you're a coward.And classless as hell.Go to the memorial service and tell his family your opinion, brave guy.
what kind of fantasy world do you live in where you call someone horrible names - a person you do not know - and then accuse ME of being a coward and classless? you're proving yourself to be a hypocrite. would you say these things to MY face??
Well the world he lives in probably isn't the same one where you come on here spouting off about how so many NFL players are "human excrement".....then you come on and show joy over a 23 year old kid dying.ETA: and yes I'd gladly say that do your face.
what I'd like you to say - here, or to my face - is how you equate "no sympathy" with "showing joy"
i belive your exact words were "the world is a better place without him"
 
what kind of fantasy world do you live in where you call someone horrible names - a person you do not know - and then accuse ME of being a coward and classless? you're proving yourself to be a hypocrite. would you say these things to MY face??
You're beating a dead horse, Mr. Human Excrement.
 
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fatness said:
Sebowski said:
Who else sees a shellacking tomorrow?
If the Skins can run the ball all game, dominate time of possession, get one or two more turnovers than the Packers, then I can see the close game. The Packers are going to score --- there will be little d-line pressure from the Skins due to Haynesworth being out, so Rodgers will have time to pass. The Redskins will have to choose whether to risk blitzing him, or playing the same type of coverage they played against Philly --- limiting the long stuff and good tackling. I can see the Skins staying close if all goes right, or getting thumped if it doesn't.
:pickle: Yeah, that'll put any team in any game.
They didn't run too well, but they did get more turnovers and more time of protection. And they made more big plays than the Packers, which amazed me since the Packers are one of the more explosive teams in the league. I did not see that coming.Very unexpected and enjoyable win. :football:

 
3 weekends ago Andre Johnson was injured against the Redskins.2 weekends ago Steven Jackson was injured against the Redskins.1 weekend ago Michael Vick and LeSean McCoy were injured against the Redskins.
Today Jermichael Finley and Donald Lee were injured against the Redskins.
 
Self-Appointed Arbitrator checking in...

My ruling:

1. buster c, I found your comment to be somewhat over the top and pushed the envelope towards inappropriate. You're more than capable of posting better than that. Take a minute to read what you wrote and think about how it read to the rest of us, and do better moving forward.

2. everyone busting buster, please tone down the rhetoric. Two wrongs don't make a right, and the tone of the criticism is just as inappropriate as the comment itself. Inside of this Thread, where we're all on the same Team, no one who's a regular poster here should have said anything stronger than what I posted to buster above. A respectful chiding gets the job done; vehement

condemnation is borderline hypocritical.

Let's put this behind us, and move on to celebrating the fact that we're 3-2, with wins vs the Cowboys, Eagles and Packers...that's beyond my wildest expectations, as far as the record and defeated opponents go. I'm not thrilled with how we're getting the job done, but those things don't show up in the Standings, and for this week, at least, we held serve in the NFC East.

Carry on...

 
I got to see the first 3 and 1/2 quarters at my mom's while I visited her at her retirement community today. Lichtensteiger (sp?) looked bad, like a sieve. I understand that Dockery is inactive, and I'm guessing they regretted that decision by halftime. McNabb looked disgusted by the protection in the first half and I don't blame him.

Amazing how well they hung in there, and kept taking shots until some worked.

 
Redskin alumni notes: Rock Cartwright blocked a punt today for the Raiders, resulting in a safety.

Betts is starting for the Saints.

 
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Self-Appointed Arbitrator checking in...My ruling:1. buster c, I found your comment to be somewhat over the top and pushed the envelope towards inappropriate. You're more than capable of posting better than that. Take a minute to read what you wrote and think about how it read to the rest of us, and do better moving forward.2. everyone busting buster, please tone down the rhetoric. Two wrongs don't make a right, and the tone of the criticism is just as inappropriate as the comment itself. Inside of this Thread, where we're all on the same Team, no one who's a regular poster here should have said anything stronger than what I posted to buster above. A respectful chiding gets the job done; vehement condemnation is borderline hypocritical.Let's put this behind us, and move on to celebrating the fact that we're 3-2, with wins vs the Cowboys, Eagles and Packers...that's beyond my wildest expectations, as far as the record and defeated opponents go. I'm not thrilled with how we're getting the job done, but those things don't show up in the Standings, and for this week, at least, we held serve in the NFC East.Carry on...
NL, I always respect what you say here and have re-read my post. I disagree that my comment was inappropriate and stand by my belief that society is better off without people who do harm to others. I agree that expressing that thought in a written forum can lead to misunderstandings and defer to your request to do better.
 
Goot win today but I really ould have liked to seen a little more urgency late in regulation. The team just seemed to play not to lose. Kyle could have also playcalled alot better. After two straight blitzes where the packers brought everything it seemed that Kyle called a horrible play for third down that got McNabb sacked and out of field goal range. Still, I am well pleased with the win. Maybe the team finds an identity!

 
3 weekends ago Andre Johnson was injured against the Redskins.2 weekends ago Steven Jackson was injured against the Redskins.1 weekend ago Michael Vick and LeSean McCoy were injured against the Redskins.
Today Jermichael Finley and Donald Lee were injured against the Redskins.
Just posted this in the Rodgers thread. Looks like Rodgers got a concussion. Don't forget Clay Matthews.
 
fatness said:
Sebowski said:
Who else sees a shellacking tomorrow?
If the Skins can run the ball all game, dominate time of possession, get one or two more turnovers than the Packers, then I can see the close game. The Packers are going to score --- there will be little d-line pressure from the Skins due to Haynesworth being out, so Rodgers will have time to pass. The Redskins will have to choose whether to risk blitzing him, or playing the same type of coverage they played against Philly --- limiting the long stuff and good tackling. I can see the Skins staying close if all goes right, or getting thumped if it doesn't.
:lmao: Yeah, that'll put any team in any game.
They didn't run too well, but they did get more turnovers and more time of protection. And they made more big plays than the Packers, which amazed me since the Packers are one of the more explosive teams in the league. I did not see that coming.Very unexpected and enjoyable win. :thumbup:
Their time of protection was bad, but I think ours was worse. :pokey:
Redskin alumni notes: Rock Cartwright blocked a punt today for the Raiders, resulting in a safety.

Betts is starting for the Saints.
Campbell in for the Raiders too.
 
3 ugly wins, but 3 BEAUTIFULLY important wins vs Dallas, Philly, and now the Packers.
:hot: A team that wins ugly while it's learning a new coaching staff, offense and defense, along with new key personnel, and a defensive star absent today and not yet fully integrated into the defense, is a dangerous team going forward. If they play defense the remainder of this season the way they did in the second half this team has the potential to even get deep into the playoffs. Still, they have a ways to go. The MVP for the Redskins was Clay Matthews' hamstring. His absence was the difference in the ball game, no question.
 
Good news: the Redskins O-line was consistently opening some big running lanes today.

Bad news: those running lanes were being used by Packers pass rushers on passing plays.

:hot:

 

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