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***Official*** Washington Redskins 2014 Offseason Thread (2 Viewers)

Redskins now have picks 47, 66 and 78. They got 47 and 78 from the Cowboys who drafted some guy that got suspended 3 times in college.

 
Honestly, this is a bit of a head-scratcher.

Granted he's tough and Stanford smart, I don't know he brings the degree of athleticism that you need at the pass rushing level. Did they draft this guy just to take a dig at Orakpo?

 
dgreen said:
Archer said:
southeastjerome said:
Its gonna be Trent Murphy, LB from Stanford.
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Good call. Looks like a good pick and meets need!
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Which need?
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The need for another stiff. Literally. He has size, but looked stiff when i watched him last year. Lead the nation in sacks last year, I believe. I HATE this pick. From what I read he has a great attitude and effort and that is a good thing, but they need talented guys and this is the best that they come up with? Good lord.

 
Hang 10 said:
southeastjerome said:
Its gonna be Trent Murphy, LB from Stanford.
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Looks like a kerrigan clone. :whitey: :highmotor: :limitedupside:
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He doesn't remind me of Kerrigan very much. Maybe a poor man's Kerrigan. Kerrigan is much more of an athlete, imo. Murphy lacking the burst.

I did :lmao: when McShay bashed the pick, Kiper said he would slightly disagree and then went on to say "He's like Ryan Kerrigan without the skills". And that's a compliment? :lmao: Anyone else catch that?

 
Smart kid, good motor, biggest hands in the entire draft. I'll take it.

 
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southeastjerome said:
Hang 10 said:
southeastjerome said:
Its gonna be Trent Murphy, LB from Stanford.
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Looks like a kerrigan clone. :whitey: :highmotor: :limitedupside:
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He doesn't remind me of Kerrigan very much. Maybe a poor man's Kerrigan. Kerrigan is much more of an athlete, imo. Murphy lacking the burst.

I did :lmao: when McShay bashed the pick, Kiper said he would slightly disagree and then went on to say "He's like Ryan Kerrigan without the skills". And that's a compliment? :lmao: Anyone else catch that?
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Yup. I caught that. Hopefully I'll be proven wrong but I don't like this pick at all...

 
southeastjerome said:
Hang 10 said:
southeastjerome said:
Its gonna be Trent Murphy, LB from Stanford.
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Looks like a kerrigan clone. :whitey: :highmotor: :limitedupside:
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He doesn't remind me of Kerrigan very much. Maybe a poor man's Kerrigan. Kerrigan is much more of an athlete, imo. Murphy lacking the burst.

I did :lmao: when McShay bashed the pick, Kiper said he would slightly disagree and then went on to say "He's like Ryan Kerrigan without the skills". And that's a compliment? :lmao: Anyone else catch that?
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Kerrigan was a first round draft pick. I don't think its a bad pick because he's not as polished as him. Also, I don't think its a stretch to say he fills a need since the redskins were one of the worst teams at rushing the passer in the league.

 
Moses going to get to 66? If they pass on him there, probably means they just don't like him. Or maybe they really do like Polumbus.

 
Hang 10 said:
dgreen said:
Moses going to get to 66? If they pass on him there, probably means they just don't like him. Or maybe they really do like Polumbus.
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Good chance. How's Murphy look at 47 if they get Moses at 66?
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It would look much better to me. But I'm in the tank for a RT. I wanted Cyrus.

But I'll take Moses at 66 and adding front 7 depth with a high motor guy at 47 if it works out that way. Just see Moses as more of a developmental player. We'll see if they like him at all in a few seconds....

 
from Keim written a few days ago:

Taking a look at selected players leading up to the NFL draft, which begins May 8. The reports are based on watching their games on draftbreakdown.com, and reading various reports from ESPN.com, CBSSports.com and NFL.com. I'm not a fan of having to only watch them off a TV feed -- you don't always get the best angle, or all the players -- but it's the best I can do now and it helps provide a snapshot. The draft analysts help fill in the gap.

Player: Morgan Moses

School: Virginia

What he plays: Offensive tackle

College production: Made 43 career starts.

How he’d fit: As a right tackle. Though Moses played left tackle this past season, he would obviously not supplant Trent Williams. But he’d give the Redskins a future right tackle.

What I like: He has the measurables in terms of arm length (34 inches) and size (6-foot-6). Every so often you see flashes of excellent play, sometimes followed by a bad one – but those good plays show why scouts like him. He’ll drive a man out, showing good feet and some power. When he locks his arms on a defender, he’ll control them. I saw him do this on occasion against Jeremiah Attaochu and Clemson’s Vic Beasley. Against Attaochu, there were a couple times Moses was beat only to recover thanks to his long arms. Williams excelled at this as a rookie, but he was also much quicker with his feet. Saw Moses drive his man downfield on one fourth-and-1 against North Carolina in 2012. When his base is right, his feet are pretty good, though I would not consider him a terrific blocker in space. He had an excellent week at the Senior Bowl.

What I don’t: He consistently struggled to bend properly, doing more so at the waist and getting himself into trouble. He could get himself out of trouble in college because of his long arms, but sometimes relied on that, too. But he did not show extraordinary skills to compensate should this be an issue in the NFL. Again, Williams’ quickness and strength made a big difference in this area. Too often defenders got into Moses’ pads because of this. When playing right tackle in 2012, in a game I watched against North Carolina, there were a couple times he did not hold his block while moving down the line to his left, something he’d have to do in the Redskins’ zone system. And he’d also have to work to the second level, yet that gave him problems in college. Moses was inconsistent blocking linebackers, sometimes hesitant on his angles. He moved OK, but not great, in space. I’d worry about speed rushers dipping their shoulder and getting by him in the NFL and I’m not sure his feet – or maybe better, his technique -- are great enough yet for him to react if they cut back inside. His base gets a little narrow at times, leading to a loss of strength and/or balance. I didn’t like that he’d sometimes stop blocking his man if the quarterback rolled away from him on a scramble, or even ran up the middle. But mostly it’s the inconsistency with his technique. If that doesn’t improve, you’ll simply get a talented but inconsistent player. He had some weight issues early in his career, but weighed 314 pounds at the combine.

Where he’s projected: Late first; early second. Todd McShay likes him as a top-15 pick and there were moments when his play looked like that was warranted; Mel Kiper considers him a top-32 guy. But for a guy projected this high he still needs a bit of work and would need good coaching to help him gain consistency with his technique and more.
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TxBuckeye said:
Yea, I feel a lot better seeing Moses fall that far. No way I thought he'd still be there.
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One of the draft guys, McShay I think, had him ranked as one of the top 20 players this year.

Borland just dropped to 3:13. I'm sure glad they didn't pick him.

 
Horrible draft for the skins. I'm not sure what they were thinking. Complete waste. They should have kept the pic at 34.

 
Han Solo said:
Horrible draft for the skins. I'm not sure what they were thinking. Complete waste. They should have kept the pic at 34.
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I have to agree. Not seeing impact players here. Just a bunch of scrubbs that may get a couple years of starts, but nothing special.

Is Gabe Jackson still available? Might as well rebuild over half the OL while we are at it.

 
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