****OFFICIAL**** Washington Redskins Offseason Thread (2 Viewers)

[fatness]

Sure I can. I did in high school. Played defensive tackle. 6'5" 310 here. Hey I even won the Punt Pass & Kick for the Northern VA area back in 75' and Joe Theisman was giving the awards away at the banquet.Fatness you and I should go out for the team. I would make a good 40 year old rookie.

Then we've solved the Redskins D-line problems. They'll switch to the 3-4, with the 3 linemen being you, me, and my tuba.

 

[Yamato]

Sure I can. I did in high school. Played defensive tackle. 6'5" 310 here. Hey I even won the Punt Pass & Kick for the Northern VA area back in 75' and Joe Theisman was giving the awards away at the banquet.Fatness you and I should go out for the team. I would make a good 40 year old rookie.

Then we've solved the Redskins D-line problems. They'll switch to the 3-4, with the 3 linemen being you, me, and my tuba.

We already have a tuba on the line...Phillip Daniels.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Well when we play the Giants we won't need a DL as they have no OL.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

DT ranked by Fox Sports

Pos. Rank Overall Rise/Fall Player Pos School Ht. Wt. 40 Proj Rd

8 100 Antonio Johnson DT Mississippi State 6-3 310 5.15 3-4

14 180 Derek Landri DT Notre Dame 6-3 288 4.96 5

15 207 *Walter Thomas DT Northwest Mississippi CC 6-5 374 5.19 5-6

16 208 Clifton Ryan DT Michigan State 6-2 305 5.12 5-6

17 222 Keith Jackson DT Arkansas 6-0 305 5.05 6

18 229 Joe Anoai DT Georgia Tech 6-3 303 4.92 6

19 255 David Patterson DT Ohio State 6-2 285 5.10 6-7

20 258 Matt Toeaina DT Oregon 6-2 307 5.10 6-7

21 269 Jeremy Clark DT Alabama 6-3 309 5.02 7

22 273 Ola Dagunduro DT Nebraska 6-2 313 5.12 7

23 316 Joe Cohen DT Florida 6-3 313 5.10 7-FA

24 318 Quintin Echols DT Kansas State 6-1 328 5.40 7-FA

25 348 Trey Lewis DT Washburn 6-3 318 5.14

26 353 Mike DeVito DT Maine 6-4 295 4.92

27 369 Conrad Bolston DT Maryland 6-3 305 5.24

28 381 Jamar Smith DT Missouri 6-1 285 5.02

29 389 Daniel Muir DT Kent State 6-2 303 4.90

30 392 Deljuan Robinson DT Mississippi State 6-3 299 5.10

31 413 Louis Leonard DT Fresno State 6-5 322 5.28

32 424 Tory Collins DT Northwestern State (LA) 6-2 295 5.03

33 435 Ray Gant DT Georgia 6-2 289 4.90

34 439 Larry Brown DT Oklahoma State 6-3 297 5.20

35 452 Kelly Talavou DT Utah 6-2 329 5.29

36 483 Johnathan Bailes DT San Diego State 6-1 306 5.16

 

[avoiding injuries]

DT ranked by Fox Sports

Pos. Rank Overall Rise/Fall Player Pos School Ht. Wt. 40 Proj Rd

1 7 Amobi Okoye DT Louisville 6-2 302 5.07 1

2 13 *Alan Branch DT Michigan 6-6 324 5.07 1

3 25 Justin Harrell DT Tennessee 6-5 300 5.04 1

4 53 Tank Tyler DT North Carolina State 6-2 306 5.18 2

5 66 Turk McBride DT Tennessee 6-3 277 4.81 2-3

6 80 Brandon Mebane DT California 6-1 309 5.15 3

7 88 Marcus Thomas DT Florida 6-3 314 5.18 3

8 100 Antonio Johnson DT Mississippi State 6-3 310 5.15 3-4

9 113 Paul Soliai DT Utah 6-4 344 5.10 3-4

10 117 Quinn Pitcock DT Ohio State 6-3 299 4.93 3-4

11 139 Ryan McBean DT Oklahoma State 6-5 286 4.98 4

12 140 Jay Alford DT Penn State 6-4 304 5.17 4

13 156 Kareem Brown DT Miami 6-4 290 5.32 4-5

14 180 Derek Landri DT Notre Dame 6-3 288 4.96 5

15 207 *Walter Thomas DT Northwest Mississippi CC 6-5 374 5.19 5-6

16 208 Clifton Ryan DT Michigan State 6-2 305 5.12 5-6

17 222 Keith Jackson DT Arkansas 6-0 305 5.05 6

18 229 Joe Anoai DT Georgia Tech 6-3 303 4.92 6

19 255 David Patterson DT Ohio State 6-2 285 5.10 6-7

20 258 Matt Toeaina DT Oregon 6-2 307 5.10 6-7

21 269 Jeremy Clark DT Alabama 6-3 309 5.02 7

22 273 Ola Dagunduro DT Nebraska 6-2 313 5.12 7

23 316 Joe Cohen DT Florida 6-3 313 5.10 7-FA

24 318 Quintin Echols DT Kansas State 6-1 328 5.40 7-FA

25 348 Trey Lewis DT Washburn 6-3 318 5.14

26 353 Mike DeVito DT Maine 6-4 295 4.92

27 369 Conrad Bolston DT Maryland 6-3 305 5.24

28 381 Jamar Smith DT Missouri 6-1 285 5.02

29 389 Daniel Muir DT Kent State 6-2 303 4.90

30 392 Deljuan Robinson DT Mississippi State 6-3 299 5.10

31 413 Louis Leonard DT Fresno State 6-5 322 5.28

32 424 Tory Collins DT Northwestern State (LA) 6-2 295 5.03

33 435 Ray Gant DT Georgia 6-2 289 4.90

34 439 Larry Brown DT Oklahoma State 6-3 297 5.20

35 452 Kelly Talavou DT Utah 6-2 329 5.29

36 483 Johnathan Bailes DT San Diego State 6-1 306 5.16

and only 75 more selections until our pick...

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

DT ranked by Fox Sports

Pos. Rank Overall Rise/Fall Player Pos School Ht. Wt. 40 Proj Rd

1 7 Amobi Okoye DT Louisville 6-2 302 5.07 1

2 13 *Alan Branch DT Michigan 6-6 324 5.07 1

3 25 Justin Harrell DT Tennessee 6-5 300 5.04 1

4 53 Tank Tyler DT North Carolina State 6-2 306 5.18 2

5 66 Turk McBride DT Tennessee 6-3 277 4.81 2-3

6 80 Brandon Mebane DT California 6-1 309 5.15 3

7 88 Marcus Thomas DT Florida 6-3 314 5.18 3

8 100 Antonio Johnson DT Mississippi State 6-3 310 5.15 3-4

9 113 Paul Soliai DT Utah 6-4 344 5.10 3-4

10 117 Quinn Pitcock DT Ohio State 6-3 299 4.93 3-4

11 139 Ryan McBean DT Oklahoma State 6-5 286 4.98 4

12 140 Jay Alford DT Penn State 6-4 304 5.17 4

13 156 Kareem Brown DT Miami 6-4 290 5.32 4-5

14 180 Derek Landri DT Notre Dame 6-3 288 4.96 5

15 207 *Walter Thomas DT Northwest Mississippi CC 6-5 374 5.19 5-6

16 208 Clifton Ryan DT Michigan State 6-2 305 5.12 5-6

17 222 Keith Jackson DT Arkansas 6-0 305 5.05 6

18 229 Joe Anoai DT Georgia Tech 6-3 303 4.92 6

19 255 David Patterson DT Ohio State 6-2 285 5.10 6-7

20 258 Matt Toeaina DT Oregon 6-2 307 5.10 6-7

21 269 Jeremy Clark DT Alabama 6-3 309 5.02 7

22 273 Ola Dagunduro DT Nebraska 6-2 313 5.12 7

23 316 Joe Cohen DT Florida 6-3 313 5.10 7-FA

24 318 Quintin Echols DT Kansas State 6-1 328 5.40 7-FA

25 348 Trey Lewis DT Washburn 6-3 318 5.14

26 353 Mike DeVito DT Maine 6-4 295 4.92

27 369 Conrad Bolston DT Maryland 6-3 305 5.24

28 381 Jamar Smith DT Missouri 6-1 285 5.02

29 389 Daniel Muir DT Kent State 6-2 303 4.90

30 392 Deljuan Robinson DT Mississippi State 6-3 299 5.10

31 413 Louis Leonard DT Fresno State 6-5 322 5.28

32 424 Tory Collins DT Northwestern State (LA) 6-2 295 5.03

33 435 Ray Gant DT Georgia 6-2 289 4.90

34 439 Larry Brown DT Oklahoma State 6-3 297 5.20

35 452 Kelly Talavou DT Utah 6-2 329 5.29

36 483 Johnathan Bailes DT San Diego State 6-1 306 5.16

and only 75 more selections until our pick...

I would love for Brown to fall to US

 

[Yamato]

Here is a list of remaining players the Skins might want to consider. I've only listed OG, DE, DT, OLB, CB. Our picks are 143, 179, 205, 216. There are 255 picks in the draft. The #'s prior to the player name is Fox sports overall ranking so the players listed prior to 100 we probably won't get. I've put an * next to players they might want to target (players I like).

58 Tanard Jackson CB 6-00 192 Syracuse

68 David Irons CB 5-10 190 Auburn

77 Tim Shaw OLB 6-01 237 Penn State

85 A.J. Davis CB North Carolina State

88 Marcus Thomas DT 6-02 296 Florida *

90 Josh Beekman OG 6-01 321 Boston College

92 Tarell Brown CB 5-10 190 Texas

101 Antonio Johnson DT 6-02 305 Mississippi State *

102 Michael Coe CB 6-1 188 Alabama State

103 Fred Bennett CB 6-01 195 South Carolina *

105 Rufus Alexander OLB 6-00 228 Oklahoma

110 Stephen Nicholas LB 6-3 225 South Florida

111 Baraka Atkins DE 6-03 278 Miami (FL) *

113 Leroy Harris OG 6-02 298 North Carolina State

114 Paul Soliai OG 6-03 334 Utah

117 Manuel Ramirez OG 6-02 335 Texas Tech *

120 Kenny Scott CB 6-01 179 Georgia Tech

121 H.B. Blades OLB 5-10 237 Pittsburgh

122 Courtney Brown CB 6-01 1 Cal Poly

125 Anthony Arline CB 6-2 194 Baylor

126 Zak DeOssie LB 6-04 250 Brown

128 Mansfield Wrotto DT 6-03 316 Georgia Tech

130 Jay Moore DE 6-04 276 Nebraska

132 Earl Everett OLB 6-02 234 Florida

135 Doug Datish OG 6-03 302 Ohio State

137 Antwan Barnes OLB 6-00 240 Florida International *

140 Ryan McBean DT 6-04 277 Oklahoma State *

146 Cameron Stephenson OL 6-5 305 Rutgers

150 Brian Robison DE 6-3 270 Texas

151 Nate Harris OLB 6-00 230 Louisville

157 Kareem Brown DT 6-04 290 Miami (FL)

158 Ryan Smith CB 5-10 168 Florida

159 Tim Duckworth OG 6-03 304 Auburn

161 Rory Johnson OLB 6-00 237 Mississippi *

166 Daren Stone CB 6-03 3 Maine

168 Jacob Ford DE 6-5 252 Central Arkansas

175 Julius Wilson OL 6-5 310 UAB

176 Travarous Bain CB 6-0 175 Hampton

177 Jay Richardson DE 6-6 276 Ohio State

178 Dallas Sartz OLB 6-04 235 Southern Cal *

181 Derek Landri DT 6-02 277 Notre Dame *

191 Mike Jones OL 6-5 302 Iowa

192 Brandon Myles WR 6-3 185 West Virginia

193 Noland Burchette DE 6-02 263 Virginia Tech

194 C.J. Gaddis CB 6-00 210 Clemson

197 Zach Latimer LB 6-01 237 Oklahoma

198 Sam Olajubutu OLB 5-08 227 Arkansas

200 Christian Gaddis OL 6-1 300 Villanova

202 Reggie Lewis CB 5-10 196 Florida

204 Keith Jackson DT 6-0 296 Arkansas

206 Jon Abbate LB 5-11 245 Wake Forest

207 Dan Santucci OL 6-03 296 Notre Dame

208 Juwan Simpson OLB 6-02 225 Alabama

209 Gabe Hall OL 6-4 293 Texas Tech

214 Uche Nwaneri G 6-3 300 Purdue

215 Chad Nkang LB 5-11 220 Elon

216 Walter Thomas DT 6-04 374 Northwest Mississippi CC *

217 Xzavie Jackson DE 6-4 285 Missouri

218 Clifton Ryan DE 6-02 310 Michigan State

219 Nathan Bennett OG 6-04 310 Clemson

221 Scott Stephenson OL 6-4 305 Iowa State

223 C.J. Ah You DE 6-4 275 Oklahoma *

 

[Yamato]

I hope Danny boy Snyder was watching NFL Network this morning when Bobby Bethard compared him to the powers that be in New England. He called Snyder a kid in a candy store and all he wants to do is grab all the stars he can while New England builds from within and gets trade offers like Randy Moss for a 4th round pick.

Hell..bring back Bethard!

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

I say no way on Marcus Thomas. Dude is a ticking time bomb. But could be a steal in rd 5. Paging Redman and Fatness, what do you think.

 

[redman]

I don't know much about Marcus Thomas. He certainly is talented enough to take a shot at, but his character/discipline problems are a concern:

Thomas was once touted as one of the premier defensive players eligible for the 2007 NFL Draft, but a series of off-field incidents led to a suspension and an eventual dismissal from the team. Thomas seriously considered leaving school early to enter the NFL Draft after the 2005 season, but wanted to return and play for the Gators, who went on to win the national championship with one of their best players watching the game at home.

Problems for Thomas started in 2006 August camp, when he failed a school controlled-substance test. Both Thomas and fellow starting defensive tackle, Steven Harris, did not play in the team's season opener vs. Southern Mississippi.

The nose tackle returned to the starting lineup vs. Central Florida and played the following week vs. Tennessee, but was then suspended from the team. On Sept. 20, several radio and newspaper reports stated that Thomas was being suspended five games for failing a second test. Thomas appealed the suspension and was reinstated to the team, but not before he was forced to sit out vs. Kentucky and Alabama. He said both failed drug tests were the result of one night of marijuana use over the summer. A committee consisting of university personnel heard Thomas' appeal and recommended to amend his sanctions, Florida coach Urban Meyer said in a statement.

Thomas returned vs. Louisiana State and was a terror on the field for the next three games. But on Nov. 4, he was kicked off the team during the Gators' game with Vanderbilt. Thomas was listed on the roster as being dressed for the game, but the school released a statement early in the fourth quarter that said Thomas had been dismissed. "Marcus did not meet his responsibilities and obligations to remain on the team," Meyer said in the statement.

Does this sound like a Joe Gibbs type of player? Maybe this is what he needed to get serious, but you certainly have to wonder. Link

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

I don't know much about Marcus Thomas. He certainly is talented enough to take a shot at, but his character/discipline problems are a concern:

Thomas was once touted as one of the premier defensive players eligible for the 2007 NFL Draft, but a series of off-field incidents led to a suspension and an eventual dismissal from the team. Thomas seriously considered leaving school early to enter the NFL Draft after the 2005 season, but wanted to return and play for the Gators, who went on to win the national championship with one of their best players watching the game at home.

Problems for Thomas started in 2006 August camp, when he failed a school controlled-substance test. Both Thomas and fellow starting defensive tackle, Steven Harris, did not play in the team's season opener vs. Southern Mississippi.

The nose tackle returned to the starting lineup vs. Central Florida and played the following week vs. Tennessee, but was then suspended from the team. On Sept. 20, several radio and newspaper reports stated that Thomas was being suspended five games for failing a second test. Thomas appealed the suspension and was reinstated to the team, but not before he was forced to sit out vs. Kentucky and Alabama. He said both failed drug tests were the result of one night of marijuana use over the summer. A committee consisting of university personnel heard Thomas' appeal and recommended to amend his sanctions, Florida coach Urban Meyer said in a statement.

Thomas returned vs. Louisiana State and was a terror on the field for the next three games. But on Nov. 4, he was kicked off the team during the Gators' game with Vanderbilt. Thomas was listed on the roster as being dressed for the game, but the school released a statement early in the fourth quarter that said Thomas had been dismissed. "Marcus did not meet his responsibilities and obligations to remain on the team," Meyer said in the statement.

Does this sound like a Joe Gibbs type of player? Maybe this is what he needed to get serious, but you certainly have to wonder. Link

Yes but thats why I'm worried. But like I said if dude panned out he would be a steal.

 

[redman]

A fifth round pick is a low enough pick. I wouldn't mind taking a shot at Thomas and seeing if it works out, knowing that you can just cut him if you need to and move on with little lost.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

A fifth round pick is a low enough pick. I wouldn't mind taking a shot at Thomas and seeing if it works out, knowing that you can just cut him if you need to and move on with little lost.

I'm hoping Him or Brown from Miami falls to us in the the 5th.

 

[redman]

Always nice to know that we couldn't have gotten anything useful to us with the fourth round pick we traded away to San Francisco.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Always nice to know that we couldn't have gotten anything useful to us with the fourth round pick we traded away to San Francisco.

B, Llyod is so much better

 

[Giggity]

Always nice to know that we couldn't have gotten anything useful to us with the fourth round pick we traded away to San Francisco.

Yes but you got Duckett for a 3rd. So you have to take the good with the bad. Or bad with the bad.

 

[redman]

Always nice to know that we couldn't have gotten anything useful to us with the fourth round pick we traded away to San Francisco.

Yes but you got Duckett for a 3rd. So you have to take the good with the bad. Or bad with the bad.

Speaking of that 3rd rounder . . .

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Just think guys, what will we be doing next year. Looks like we could have all of our picks....

 

[redman]

Just think guys, what will we be doing next year. Looks like we could have all of our picks....

It's early.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Thomas is gone

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

EFF now BRown is gone

 

[Yamato]

Just think guys, what will we be doing next year. Looks like we could have all of our picks....

I believe we still owe a team our 4th round pick for the Duckett debacle.

 

[Yamato]

EFF now BRown is gone

Hey CCF...would you cry if the skins took Antwan Barnes OLB

 

[Yamato]

McBean went

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

EFF now BRown is gone

Hey CCF...would you cry if the skins took Antwan Barnes OLB

I think he's to small.

 

[Yamato]

EFF now BRown is gone

Hey CCF...would you cry if the skins took Antwan Barnes OLB

I think he's to small.

What about Tim Shaw?

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

EFF now BRown is gone

Hey CCF...would you cry if the skins took Antwan Barnes OLB

I think he's to small.

Went to Ravens anyway

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

EFF now BRown is gone

Hey CCF...would you cry if the skins took Antwan Barnes OLB

I think he's to small.

What about Tim Shaw?

Shaw maybe someone to look at. Can play the inside or the outside. 6-2 236 4.51

 

[Yamato]

EFF now BRown is gone

Hey CCF...would you cry if the skins took Antwan Barnes OLB

I think he's to small.

Went to Ravens anyway

That Siler punk is still available

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

DT ranked by Fox SportsPos. Rank Overall Rise/Fall Player Pos School Ht. Wt. 40 Proj Rd 8 100 Antonio Johnson DT Mississippi State 6-3 310 5.15 3-4 14 180 Derek Landri DT Notre Dame 6-3 288 4.96 5 15 207 *Walter Thomas DT Northwest Mississippi CC 6-5 374 5.19 5-6 16 208 Clifton Ryan DT Michigan State 6-2 305 5.12 5-6 17 222 Keith Jackson DT Arkansas 6-0 305 5.05 6 18 229 Joe Anoai DT Georgia Tech 6-3 303 4.92 6 19 255 David Patterson DT Ohio State 6-2 285 5.10 6-7 20 258 Matt Toeaina DT Oregon 6-2 307 5.10 6-7 21 269 Jeremy Clark DT Alabama 6-3 309 5.02 7 22 273 Ola Dagunduro DT Nebraska 6-2 313 5.12 7 23 316 Joe Cohen DT Florida 6-3 313 5.10 7-FA 24 318 Quintin Echols DT Kansas State 6-1 328 5.40 7-FA 25 348 Trey Lewis DT Washburn 6-3 318 5.14 26 353 Mike DeVito DT Maine 6-4 295 4.92 27 369 Conrad Bolston DT Maryland 6-3 305 5.24 28 381 Jamar Smith DT Missouri 6-1 285 5.02 29 389 Daniel Muir DT Kent State 6-2 303 4.90 30 392 Deljuan Robinson DT Mississippi State 6-3 299 5.10 31 413 Louis Leonard DT Fresno State 6-5 322 5.28 32 424 Tory Collins DT Northwestern State (LA) 6-2 295 5.03 33 435 Ray Gant DT Georgia 6-2 289 4.90 34 439 Larry Brown DT Oklahoma State 6-3 297 5.20 35 452 Kelly Talavou DT Utah 6-2 329 5.29 36 483 Johnathan Bailes DT San Diego State 6-1 306 5.16

Updated through 4

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

pick 5th rd should be Johnson Dt from Miss ST

Johnson is an emerging talent whose statistics don't offer a true value for what he brings to the middle of the line. Used mostly to occupy multiple blockers, his success in doing so generally saw a teammate left free to come up with the big play.

He is a versatile athlete with experience at the basic defensive tackle position, in addition to nose guard, but is more ideally suited for a two-gap alignment. With only five games of starting experience at the Division I-A level, this former junior college product is still a work in progress. But with his size and quickness, many scouts feel that patient coaching will help him be a productive performer at the professional level.

Johnson played football just briefly during his career at Leland High School and did not step onto the field as a senior. With minimal football experience, he enrolled at Mississippi Delta Community College upon graduation. He earned All-America honorable mention from J.C. Gridwire as a sophomore in 2004. He was ranked No. 24 on the Jackson Clarion-Ledger list of the top junior college prospects in the state of Mississippi following that season.

He also ranked among the top 87 defensive linemen in the country, a group that includes both high school and junior college prospects. Johnson played in a rotation of five defensive tackles during his junior college career, making 20 tackles with five sacks and three forced fumbles in 2004.

Heavily pursued by Iowa State, Johnson decided to instead enroll at Mississippi State in 2005. He was a reserve nose guard and defensive tackle, coming up with 15 tackles (7 solos). He had 2.5 sacks, three stops behind the line of scrimmage and a pressure.

Johnson split time at nose guard with Andrew Powell in 2006, starting against Auburn, Alabama-Birmingham, West Virginia, Jacksonville State and Georgia. He posted 21 tackles (9 solos) with four stops for losses, blocked one kick and recovered two fumbles.

In 22 games at Mississippi State, Johnson started five times. He recorded 36 tackles (16 solos) with 2.5 sacks for minus-10 yards, seven stops for losses totaling 20 yards and one quarterback pressure. He recovered two fumbles and blocked a kick.

ANALYSIS

Positives: Well-built athlete with good chest thickness, broad shoulders, smooth muscle tone, long limbs and a frame that can carry at least another 15 pounds with no loss in quickness … Shows very good explosion off the snap and has the strength to gain leverage, keeping his hands active in attempts to play off blocks … Has the lateral agility to work his way down the line and gets advantage with his sudden initial step … Has the leg drive and lower-body power to split double-team blocking, but needs to use his hands better to disengage … When he does land with his hands, he demonstrates the power to shock and push the blockers back on their heels … Takes good angles and slants on the bull rush and is disruptive in the backfield on short-area pursuit … Adequate at reading screens and draws and closes quickly once he locates the ball … Uses his lower-body power and size to plug the gaps and has the strong anchor at the point of attack that makes it tough for single blockers to move him out … Wins most one-on-one battles and, when he plays with his pads low, he will maintain leverage … Hits with good authority, dragging down ball carriers hard … Has the short-area burst to flush the quarterback out of the pocket and steps up to fill the rush lanes with authority … Has the size and strength to push the pocket and a nifty inside spin move to create the sack … More active with his hands in attempts to defeat blocks and showed improvement in attempts to push to separate … More sudden than relentless in his pass rush pursuit.

Negatives: Despite his great speed, he does not show that relentless effort to function at a high level on every play … Even though he has impressive power, he plays "soft" coming off the snap when he fails to keep his hands inside the frame or doesn't use his arm swipes to shed … Slow to digest plays as they develop and struggles to grasp blocking schemes … Struggles with academics and needs more than several reps to retain plays … Has a good burst off the snap, but is quickly washed out of the play when he gets too tall in his stance and too narrow in his base … Has just minimal pass rush moves and tends to stop on contact, hesitating and gathering a bit before redirecting … Lacks football instincts, taking too long at times to diagnose the plays … Has good upper-body strength, but poor hand placement in attempts to shed are further compounded by his penchant to go under blocks rather than working over down blocks … Will use a decent spin move to counter on the bull rush, but needs to keep his hands more active in attempts to shed and separate from blocks quickly at the point of attack … Will cross his feet and get too narrow in his base when having to generate long pursuit … Despite his strength, he will lose his feet when trying to split double teams or when taking on blocks directed right at him.

Compares To: Larry Triplett, Buffalo -- Like Triplett, Johnson has the foot speed and quickness to penetrate and gain initial advantage … He is a typical two-gap player who works well in space, but it does take him time to recognize the play and he lacks a good feel for blocking schemes … His inability to grasp a complicated playbook is a concern and he lacks a feel for locating the ball like Triplett … Still, his size/speed will factor into where

 

[Yamato]

Still some top 100 talent out there....do we get a need player that might not make the team or go for best available?

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Still some top 100 talent out there....do we get a need player that might not make the team or go for best available?

I think they go lb or Dl

 

[Yamato]

Johnson works for me....

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

The 5th Round Is Here (Finally). Who You Got?

I'm sticking with Rufus Alexander, the LB from Oklahoma. There are health concerns at this position and a lack of capable backups, witht he sixth LB on the roster right now a kid off the street. Whoever mentioned Blades in the other thread took my second choice here, and they could do that route, too.

The TE from Deleware could be alluring here as well, but I'm going defense. I know Rufus has some strong support in Redskins Park, they like him and projected him a litle higher than some other teams did. I think they'd be happy getting him in the 5th round.

My pet-project punter, Sepulveda, went to Pitt. in the 4th round.

I don't like this pick

 

[Yamato]

The 5th Round Is Here (Finally). Who You Got?I'm sticking with Rufus Alexander, the LB from Oklahoma. There are health concerns at this position and a lack of capable backups, witht he sixth LB on the roster right now a kid off the street. Whoever mentioned Blades in the other thread took my second choice here, and they could do that route, too.The TE from Deleware could be alluring here as well, but I'm going defense. I know Rufus has some strong support in Redskins Park, they like him and projected him a litle higher than some other teams did. I think they'd be happy getting him in the 5th round.My pet-project punter, Sepulveda, went to Pitt. in the 4th round.I don't like this pick

Watch'em pull an Eagle pick and get a QB...if so I'll meet ya at Redskin Park and storm the front office.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Another in a long line of standout linebackers to perform for the Trojans, Sartz's size, strength and range have drawn comparisons to former USC great Duane Bickett, who was a 1985 first-round choice by the Indianapolis Colts and enjoyed a 12-year pro career.

Sartz comes from a sports-oriented family. His grandfather, also named Dallas, was a Golden Gloves boxer at Washington State and a professional hydroplane racer. His father, Jeff, played safety at Oregon State.

Sartz was a 2001 Prep Star All-America, Super Prep All-Farwest, Prep Star All-Western Region, Tom Lemming All-West and Long Beach Press-Telegram Best in the West second-team selection at Granite Bay High School. He added Tacoma News Tribune Western 100 and Sacramento Bee All-Sacramento first team as a senior defensive back and tight end. He was also a National Football Foundation Scholar-Athlete.

As a senior, Sartz recorded 103 tackles, including four for losses, two interceptions, seven pass deflections, two fumble recoveries, three forced fumbles and six blocked kicks. As a junior in 2000, he made 81 tackles, including four sacks, six interceptions and four forced fumbles.

He also was on Granite Bay's track team, with bests of 11.1 seconds in the 100-meters, 14.47 in the 110-meter high hurdles, 39.7 in the 300-meter intermediate hurdles and 20-plus in the long jump, while also competing in the high jump, shot put and 400-meters. He also lettered in basketball, earning all-league honors.

Sartz enrolled at Southern California in 2002, seeing action mostly on special teams and as a reserve outside linebacker as a true freshman. He made eight tackles (five solos) with a stop for a loss, an interception and a pass deflection.

In 2003, he shared strongside outside linebacker duties with Matt Grootengoed, starting the final six games. He went on to record 60 tackles (32 solos) with two sacks and six stops for losses. He also blocked a kick and batted away four passes.

With Grootengoed having graduated, Sartz started all 13 games at strongside linebacker, helping the team capture its second consecutive national title. The All-Pac 10 Conference honorable mention honoree posted 48 tackles (22 solos) with 3.5 stops behind the line of scrimmage and a forced fumble. He deflected six passes and intercepted another.

Primed for a banner senior year in 2005, Sartz delivered eight tackles (six solos) with a pair of sacks in the team's first two games. But he suffered a left shoulder dislocation against Arkansas and was forced to miss the rest of the season.

Sartz used a medical hardship for 2005 so he could return in 2006. The defensive captain picked up honorable mention All-Pac 10 accolades as he finished third on the team with 70 tackles (41 solos). He led the team with seven sacks and was credited with 9.5 stops behind the line of scrimmage. He batted down five passes, caused one fumble and recovered two others.

In 53 games at Southern California, Sartz started 34 times at strongside outside linebacker. He registered 194 tackles (106 solos) with 12.5 sacks for minus-71 yards and 22.5 stops for losses of 101 yards. He caused two fumbles and recovered two others. He blocked one kick, had 16 pass deflections and gained 30 yards on a pair of interception returns.

ANALYSIS

Positives: Has a tall, angular frame with room to add more bulk without losing any of his quickness … Has developed chest and arm muscles with a good bubble and tapered thighs, long arms and adequate playing strength … Self-motivated player with great character and work ethic … Plays at a high intensity level and is a favorite of the coaching staff because of his team-first attitude … Aggressive tackler who has the good pad level and leg drive to step up and take on the lead blocker in attempts to plug the rush lanes … Lacks ideal hip swerve, but shows a good burst to close on plays in front of him … Builds to top speed nicely and won't take false steps in transition, doing a nice job of accelerating out of his breaks … Plays until the whistle and won't back down from a challenge, even when his multiple moves fail … Shows good hand placement, extension and punch in shedding and keeping blockers off his body … Has just adequate instincts, but is quick to react once he locates the ball … Despite his lanky frame, he knows how to sink his weight, put his foot in the ground, and combat with his hands in attempts to stack the lead blocker … Has the long arm reach to maintain separation from offensive linemen and keeps his pads low to gain leverage … Delivers a punishing hand punch to tight ends to jam them at the line … Has the speed to reach ball carriers on the outside and the acceleration to be a decent blitzer coming off the edge … Knows how to widen the blocker and separate to make plays in space … Has the chase speed to cut off the outside runner and shows good urgency trying to chase the runner down in the open … Has that explosive leg drive and hip strike to push back single blockers when shooting the inside gaps … More of a straight-line charger coming off the edge than one who can smoothly redirect, but is effective running stunts due to his quickness … Not a natural hands catcher, but did show better timing with his leaps to compete for the ball at its high point in 2006 … Good hustler with nice timing on the blitz, knowing which angles will let him take the shortest path to the quarterback … Has good quickness on the chase playing on the special team coverage units … Conscious of cut blocks, doing a nice job of sidestepping them or using his hands to fend them off.

Negatives: Better in-the-box tackler, as he tends to get too tall in his stance when working down the line … When he gets too erect in his forward charge in attempts to plug the rush lanes, the lead blocker is able to get underneath and into his chest to ride him out … Not a consistent wrap-up tackler, as he is prone to grabbing and dragging down rather than getting into position to wrap and secure … Bit of a liability in man coverage, as he lacks the loose hips and lateral agility to re-direct and recover when beaten … His insistence on over-powering his man has led to some tough times trying to disengage from blocks when working through traffic … Adequate in covering backs and tight ends in the short-area passing game, but lacks depth and hip smoothness in his pass drops and needs to do a better job of anticipating the pass (doesn't get his head turned around properly) … Good edge rusher, but if he has to re-direct, he lacks the plant-and-drive agility to close on the pocket … Needs to improve his hand technique in pass protection, as he tends to maul the receiver, drawing costly pass interference calls.

Compares To: Carlos Emmons, ex-New York Giants -- Sartz has a tall, angular frame with the long arms to fend off single blocks … He is more effective playing inside the box than in space due to hip stiffness and is a bit of a liability in pass coverage … He plays with a steady motor and, while he lacks instincts, he is quick to close on the ball once he locates it … He showed in 2006 that he can be an effective edge blitzer, and with improved strength, he won't have problems with the outside runners at the next level … He is not really much of a playmaker, but will put forth a solid blue-collar job and adds to his resume with his ability to play on the special teams

 

[Yamato]

Another in a long line of standout linebackers to perform for the Trojans, Sartz's size, strength and range have drawn comparisons to former USC great Duane Bickett, who was a 1985 first-round choice by the Indianapolis Colts and enjoyed a 12-year pro career. Sartz comes from a sports-oriented family. His grandfather, also named Dallas, was a Golden Gloves boxer at Washington State and a professional hydroplane racer. His father, Jeff, played safety at Oregon State. Sartz was a 2001 Prep Star All-America, Super Prep All-Farwest, Prep Star All-Western Region, Tom Lemming All-West and Long Beach Press-Telegram Best in the West second-team selection at Granite Bay High School. He added Tacoma News Tribune Western 100 and Sacramento Bee All-Sacramento first team as a senior defensive back and tight end. He was also a National Football Foundation Scholar-Athlete. As a senior, Sartz recorded 103 tackles, including four for losses, two interceptions, seven pass deflections, two fumble recoveries, three forced fumbles and six blocked kicks. As a junior in 2000, he made 81 tackles, including four sacks, six interceptions and four forced fumbles. He also was on Granite Bay's track team, with bests of 11.1 seconds in the 100-meters, 14.47 in the 110-meter high hurdles, 39.7 in the 300-meter intermediate hurdles and 20-plus in the long jump, while also competing in the high jump, shot put and 400-meters. He also lettered in basketball, earning all-league honors. Sartz enrolled at Southern California in 2002, seeing action mostly on special teams and as a reserve outside linebacker as a true freshman. He made eight tackles (five solos) with a stop for a loss, an interception and a pass deflection. In 2003, he shared strongside outside linebacker duties with Matt Grootengoed, starting the final six games. He went on to record 60 tackles (32 solos) with two sacks and six stops for losses. He also blocked a kick and batted away four passes. With Grootengoed having graduated, Sartz started all 13 games at strongside linebacker, helping the team capture its second consecutive national title. The All-Pac 10 Conference honorable mention honoree posted 48 tackles (22 solos) with 3.5 stops behind the line of scrimmage and a forced fumble. He deflected six passes and intercepted another. Primed for a banner senior year in 2005, Sartz delivered eight tackles (six solos) with a pair of sacks in the team's first two games. But he suffered a left shoulder dislocation against Arkansas and was forced to miss the rest of the season. Sartz used a medical hardship for 2005 so he could return in 2006. The defensive captain picked up honorable mention All-Pac 10 accolades as he finished third on the team with 70 tackles (41 solos). He led the team with seven sacks and was credited with 9.5 stops behind the line of scrimmage. He batted down five passes, caused one fumble and recovered two others. In 53 games at Southern California, Sartz started 34 times at strongside outside linebacker. He registered 194 tackles (106 solos) with 12.5 sacks for minus-71 yards and 22.5 stops for losses of 101 yards. He caused two fumbles and recovered two others. He blocked one kick, had 16 pass deflections and gained 30 yards on a pair of interception returns. ANALYSIS Positives: Has a tall, angular frame with room to add more bulk without losing any of his quickness … Has developed chest and arm muscles with a good bubble and tapered thighs, long arms and adequate playing strength … Self-motivated player with great character and work ethic … Plays at a high intensity level and is a favorite of the coaching staff because of his team-first attitude … Aggressive tackler who has the good pad level and leg drive to step up and take on the lead blocker in attempts to plug the rush lanes … Lacks ideal hip swerve, but shows a good burst to close on plays in front of him … Builds to top speed nicely and won't take false steps in transition, doing a nice job of accelerating out of his breaks … Plays until the whistle and won't back down from a challenge, even when his multiple moves fail … Shows good hand placement, extension and punch in shedding and keeping blockers off his body … Has just adequate instincts, but is quick to react once he locates the ball … Despite his lanky frame, he knows how to sink his weight, put his foot in the ground, and combat with his hands in attempts to stack the lead blocker … Has the long arm reach to maintain separation from offensive linemen and keeps his pads low to gain leverage … Delivers a punishing hand punch to tight ends to jam them at the line … Has the speed to reach ball carriers on the outside and the acceleration to be a decent blitzer coming off the edge … Knows how to widen the blocker and separate to make plays in space … Has the chase speed to cut off the outside runner and shows good urgency trying to chase the runner down in the open … Has that explosive leg drive and hip strike to push back single blockers when shooting the inside gaps … More of a straight-line charger coming off the edge than one who can smoothly redirect, but is effective running stunts due to his quickness … Not a natural hands catcher, but did show better timing with his leaps to compete for the ball at its high point in 2006 … Good hustler with nice timing on the blitz, knowing which angles will let him take the shortest path to the quarterback … Has good quickness on the chase playing on the special team coverage units … Conscious of cut blocks, doing a nice job of sidestepping them or using his hands to fend them off. Negatives: Better in-the-box tackler, as he tends to get too tall in his stance when working down the line … When he gets too erect in his forward charge in attempts to plug the rush lanes, the lead blocker is able to get underneath and into his chest to ride him out … Not a consistent wrap-up tackler, as he is prone to grabbing and dragging down rather than getting into position to wrap and secure … Bit of a liability in man coverage, as he lacks the loose hips and lateral agility to re-direct and recover when beaten … His insistence on over-powering his man has led to some tough times trying to disengage from blocks when working through traffic … Adequate in covering backs and tight ends in the short-area passing game, but lacks depth and hip smoothness in his pass drops and needs to do a better job of anticipating the pass (doesn't get his head turned around properly) … Good edge rusher, but if he has to re-direct, he lacks the plant-and-drive agility to close on the pocket … Needs to improve his hand technique in pass protection, as he tends to maul the receiver, drawing costly pass interference calls. Compares To: Carlos Emmons, ex-New York Giants -- Sartz has a tall, angular frame with the long arms to fend off single blocks … He is more effective playing inside the box than in space due to hip stiffness and is a bit of a liability in pass coverage … He plays with a steady motor and, while he lacks instincts, he is quick to close on the ball once he locates it … He showed in 2006 that he can be an effective edge blitzer, and with improved strength, he won't have problems with the outside runners at the next level … He is not really much of a playmaker, but will put forth a solid blue-collar job and adds to his resume with his ability to play on the special teams

Sartz is one of the guys I thought they should target so I can't complain.

 

[Fat Nick]

So we draft a guy named Landry and a guy named Dallas?!?!?!

There's a picture of this Sartz guy wearing bunny ears in in a hot tub....Not sure what's going on there.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Looking for Redman and Fatness to commit on Dallas Sartz

 

[redman]

So we draft a guy named Landry and a guy named Dallas?!?!?!There's a picture of this Sartz guy wearing bunny ears in in a hot tub....Not sure what's going on there.

Jack Kent Cooke is spinning in his grave.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

So we draft a guy named Landry and a guy named Dallas?!?!?!There's a picture of this Sartz guy wearing bunny ears in in a hot tub....Not sure what's going on there.

 

[redman]

Looking for Redman and Fatness to commit on Dallas Sartz

This pick to me is reminiscent of Spencer Havner pick a year or two ago. Great college player with lots of heart, but limited athletic ability. He'll work hard, but I'm not sure he has what it takes athletically to play in the NFL.

 

[Yamato]

So we draft a guy named Landry and a guy named Dallas?!?!?!There's a picture of this Sartz guy wearing bunny ears in in a hot tub....Not sure what's going on there.

LOL...maybe they can create a "Hare" formation just for him.Two I'd the skins to get. C.J. Ah You DE 6-4 275 Oklahoma, Walter Thomas DT 6-04 374 Northwest Mississippi CC. If the Skins are going to get rid of Springs get a CB if they keep him get a OG.

 

[redman]

If the Skins are going to get rid of Springs get a CB if they keep him get a OG.

It's a futile effort to attempt to replace Shawn Springs with a 5th or 6th round CB. Either they have adequate CB's other than Springs at this point, or they'll trade for someone who does, but the draft is no longer a viable option for replacing him.

 

[Yamato]

If the Skins are going to get rid of Springs get a CB if they keep him get a OG.

It's a futile effort to attempt to replace Shawn Springs with a 5th or 6th round CB. Either they have adequate CB's other than Springs at this point, or they'll trade for someone who does, but the draft is no longer a viable option for replacing him.

Not trying to replace him, just trying to shore up some depth. Just like the guys we get at DT and DE at this point. If they have any impact at all we will be lucky.

 

[redman]

If the Skins are going to get rid of Springs get a CB if they keep him get a OG.

It's a futile effort to attempt to replace Shawn Springs with a 5th or 6th round CB. Either they have adequate CB's other than Springs at this point, or they'll trade for someone who does, but the draft is no longer a viable option for replacing him.

Not trying to replace him, just trying to shore up some depth. Just like the guys we get at DT and DE at this point. If they have any impact at all we will be lucky.

IMHO you have a much better chance finding gold at DE or DT in the low rounds of the draft than you do at CB. I'm hoping that the Sartz pick means that Gibbs (who has good USC connections, BTW) spoke with Carroll and was assured that he translates better to the NFL than I think he does.

 

[Yamato]

If the Skins are going to get rid of Springs get a CB if they keep him get a OG.

It's a futile effort to attempt to replace Shawn Springs with a 5th or 6th round CB. Either they have adequate CB's other than Springs at this point, or they'll trade for someone who does, but the draft is no longer a viable option for replacing him.

Not trying to replace him, just trying to shore up some depth. Just like the guys we get at DT and DE at this point. If they have any impact at all we will be lucky.

IMHO you have a much better chance finding gold at DE or DT in the low rounds of the draft than you do at CB. I'm hoping that the Sartz pick means that Gibbs (who has good USC connections, BTW) spoke with Carroll and was assured that he translates better to the NFL than I think he does.

I aggree regarding the DL. Hope the front office is going to be on the ball calling free agents when this thing is over.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Some guys that I've been looking at

De's

Antwan Applewhite DE San Diego State 6-3 250 4.73

Chase Pittman DE LSU 6-5 270 4.98

Noland Burchette DE Virginia Tech 6-2 259 4.73

Dt's

Antonio Johnson DT Mississippi State 6-3 310 5.15

Joe Anoai DT Georgia Tech 6-3 303 4.92 (is compared to C. Griffin)

Ilb's

H.B. Blades ILB Pittsburgh 5-11 236 4.69 6th rd pick (Rocky must be hurt)

Desmond Bishop ILB California 6-2 239 4.78

Cb's

Kenny Scott CB Georgia Tech 6-1 179 4.39

Courtney Brown CB Cal Poly 6-2 200 4.35

Travarous Bain CB Hampton 6-0 182 4.43

Corey Graham CB New Hampshire 6-0 195 4.42 (KR)

 

[Yamato]

Landri just went and with him any attemp of a cowboy coup.