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***OFFICIAL*** Watchmen movie thread (1 Viewer)

videoguy505

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In the extended trailer found on youtube for the movie "300", director Zach Snyder snuck in a single frame from his next movie, "Watchmen".

Story, screencap, and giant, wallpaper-ready image here.

Thoughts? Thing gave me the chills. Looks great.

Should be noted this is not a production still. This is not from the movie. This is some dude wearing a getup on the street, treated to look like the movie will look when it starts getting made, solely to give Warner Bros a taste of the product they're buying.

Still? I think it's cool. It's not the vibrant color of the comic, but a gritty, realist approach that could work well.

Website: http://www.watchmenmovie.com

 
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Marc Levin said:
I don't think I ever read that comic.

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12 issue limited series. Highly acclaimed. Written by Alan Moore. Surely you must have heard of it?Wiki:

Watchmen is set in 1985, in an alternative history United States where costumed adventurers are real and the country is edging closer to a nuclear war with the Soviet Union (the Doomsday Clock is at five minutes to midnight). It tells the story of a group of past and present superheroes and the events surrounding the mysterious murder of one of their own. Watchmen depicts superheroes as real people who must confront ethical and personal issues, who struggle with neuroses and failings, and who - with one notable exception - lack anything recognizable as super powers. Watchmen's deconstruction of the conventional superhero archetype, combined with its innovative adaptation of cinematic techniques and heavy use of symbolism and multi-layered dialogue, has influenced both comics and film.

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Greatest graphic novel ever. Some would argue and say Maus, some would say The Dark Knight Returns, but it was Watchmen that really gave comics a shot in the arm and re-invented the way superhero stories are told.

 
Heard of it, but I believe I was long out of buying new comics when it was released.

Early 90s forward is not an era of comics I am familiar with.

1940-ish till 1990, I'm gold.

 
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Marc Levin said:
Heard of it, but I believe I was long out of buying new comics when it was released.Early 90s forward is not an era of comics I am familiar with.1940-ish till 1990, I'm gold.
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This is late 80s. I missed it first time through myself. Definitely go pick up the TPB. Any respectable comic store should have it in stock at all times.
 
Mike said:
Marc Levin said:
Heard of it, but I believe I was long out of buying new comics when it was released.Early 90s forward is not an era of comics I am familiar with.1940-ish till 1990, I'm gold.
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This is late 80s. I missed it first time through myself. Definitely go pick up the TPB. Any respectable comic store should have it in stock at all times.
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:popcorn:I read the Wikipedia site linked above and once I saw the cover I recognized it.
 
In fact, I believe I bought #1 and sold it a year later when I dumped most of my comics (I sold most of my comics in one big sale in 1987).

 
Watchmen was 1986. So was Dark Knight - nice year. You got out on a peak! Anyhow, I read a snippet on Snyder & the Watchmen movie and it's still up in the air. One of those deals where it gets bounced around for awhile. And Snyder said he's one of a few considered.

I never heard of the guy, what has he done besides 300?...which looks pretty lame to me.

 
If The Watchmen ever gets made, the expectations will be unattainably high. Still would be great to see that story on film. No way you could fit it all into one 2 hour film, though.

 
jabarony said:
Watchmen was 1986. So was Dark Knight - nice year. You got out on a peak!
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Dark Knight was actually one of the last comic books I bought - I still have it.I kept my beak wet through the end of the decade - and continued to collect X-Men, Wolvie, and a smattering here and there, but I was already in college and more concerned with seeing the Grateful Dead than maintaining a a G of comic books. I kept a select 200 or so and sold the rest.
 
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I can't imagine Watchnmen will be any good.

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That being said, I'll definitely see it.

 
NCCommish said:
dickey moe said:
If The Watchmen ever gets made, the expectations will be unattainably high. Still would be great to see that story on film. No way you could fit it all into one 2 hour film, though.
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300+ X-Men comic books 500+ Spider Man comicsGs of Superman and BatmanThose translated to film.Since I don't know the story, I can't say, but couldn't they just pare down storylines and make a film that allows room for a sequel?
 
Marc Levin said:
300+ X-Men comic books 500+ Spider Man comicsGs of Superman and BatmanThose translated to film.Since I don't know the story, I can't say, but couldn't they just pare down storylines and make a film that allows room for a sequel?
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Completely different thing. You're talking about characters. He's talking about a storyline.You could make a 2 hour movie with characters from anything. Telling a 12 part story that's fairly intricate in 2 hours, and is chock full of symbolism at every turn, is challenging. Not to mention the narration and inner monologue that goes on in comic books but is hard to translate to the screen.
 
bialczabub said:
Marc Levin said:
300+ X-Men comic books 500+ Spider Man comicsGs of Superman and BatmanThose translated to film.Since I don't know the story, I can't say, but couldn't they just pare down storylines and make a film that allows room for a sequel?
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Completely different thing. You're talking about characters. He's talking about a storyline.You could make a 2 hour movie with characters from anything. Telling a 12 part story that's fairly intricate in 2 hours, and is chock full of symbolism at every turn, is challenging. Not to mention the narration and inner monologue that goes on in comic books but is hard to translate to the screen.
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Exactly. I enjoy the Spiderman and Xmen films. But they are shallow compared to the actual comics they are based on. This would be very hard(impossible?) to do right shallow.
 
Well, they could do it like Lord of the Rings with a multi-part story. And, hopefully, unlike Lord of the Rings, they could find decent clean-points where it make sense to stop the movie(s).

Pretty much any half-way decent movie can get a sequel, so it could be sold to producers, or whoever, as such.

Hopefully they get a chunky guy to play Nite-Owl - like maybe Rosie O'Donnell. Zing!

 
They could probably get away with a 3-hour long movie, and still keep large chunks of the basic story. Even 3.5 hours if it moves fast enough. Short of that, a 2-parter is a possibility.

I alway though it should be serialized in 20-minute segments shown in front of other movies like the old days, one every month for a year.

 
videoguy505 said:
They could probably get away with a 3-hour long movie, and still keep large chunks of the basic story. Even 3.5 hours if it moves fast enough.
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studio exec: this movie is based on a comic book, therefore it's for teens. Teens don't have good attention spans, therefore it's too long.X

 
I was having this very conversation with a buddy before we went to see 300 last night.

We agreed that this would be very hard to do justice to in a movie. I personally think a 12 episode HBO type miniseries might do it justice.

 
videoguy505 said:
They could probably get away with a 3-hour long movie, and still keep large chunks of the basic story. Even 3.5 hours if it moves fast enough. Short of that, a 2-parter is a possibility.I alway though it should be serialized in 20-minute segments shown in front of other movies like the old days, one every month for a year.
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That is a cool idea, except for the fact that I'd have to see 8 crappy movies to see 1 (hopefully) good one.I would actually just wait for the DVD in that case.
 
bialczabub said:
videoguy505 said:
They could probably get away with a 3-hour long movie, and still keep large chunks of the basic story. Even 3.5 hours if it moves fast enough.
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studio exec: this movie is based on a comic book, therefore it's for teens. Teens don't have good attention spans, therefore it's too long.X
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WB has had this property long enough to know that if they're finally going to do it, they should do it right. The newer comic book movies all run about 2 1/2 hours (and Superman Returns was just over). "Lord of the Rings" was for kids and teens, too, after all.

 
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The problem is that it's a comic book story for grown-ups (I know, it's oxymoronic). It would be a hell of a gamble to fit the story into a trilogy, and have the first movie bomb because the kiddies didn't go to see it. Any Watchmen movie not rated R would probably be crappy anyways, considering the subject matter of the story and the nature of some of the characters (Rorschach and Dr. Manhattan particularly).

 
dickey moe said:
The problem is that it's a comic book story for grown-ups (I know, it's oxymoronic). It would be a hell of a gamble to fit the story into a trilogy, and have the first movie bomb because the kiddies didn't go to see it. Any Watchmen movie not rated R would probably be crappy anyways, considering the subject matter of the story and the nature of some of the characters (Rorschach and Dr. Manhattan particularly).
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It's not really all that oxymoronic. Comic books are really for an older crowd than most assume. Not talking Richie Rich but the Marvel Books that I read dealt with adult issues .
 
NCCommish said:
dickey moe said:
The problem is that it's a comic book story for grown-ups (I know, it's oxymoronic). It would be a hell of a gamble to fit the story into a trilogy, and have the first movie bomb because the kiddies didn't go to see it. Any Watchmen movie not rated R would probably be crappy anyways, considering the subject matter of the story and the nature of some of the characters (Rorschach and Dr. Manhattan particularly).
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It's not really all that oxymoronic. Comic books are really for an older crowd than most assume. Not talking Richie Rich but the Marvel Books that I read dealt with adult issues .
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I agree. As an adult, I really relate to adult issues like being kidnapped into space with Ord from Breakworld and keeping my costume hidden from my elderly aunt.
 
I'll have to refresh my memory on the Watchmen series, but wouldn't people similarly assume Moore's V for Vendetta could not fit into a 2-2.5 hour movie? That worked pretty well, I thought.

 
Mike said:
I'll have to refresh my memory on the Watchmen series, but wouldn't people similarly assume Moore's V for Vendetta could not fit into a 2-2.5 hour movie? That worked pretty well, I thought.
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V was a shorter, less complex, story. If I remember correctly...
 
jabarony said:
NCCommish said:
dickey moe said:
The problem is that it's a comic book story for grown-ups (I know, it's oxymoronic). It would be a hell of a gamble to fit the story into a trilogy, and have the first movie bomb because the kiddies didn't go to see it. Any Watchmen movie not rated R would probably be crappy anyways, considering the subject matter of the story and the nature of some of the characters (Rorschach and Dr. Manhattan particularly).
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It's not really all that oxymoronic. Comic books are really for an older crowd than most assume. Not talking Richie Rich but the Marvel Books that I read dealt with adult issues .
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I agree. As an adult, I really relate to adult issues like being kidnapped into space with Ord from Breakworld and keeping my costume hidden from my elderly aunt.
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It appears the ability to see beyond the surface is weak with this one.
 
jabarony said:
Mike said:
I'll have to refresh my memory on the Watchmen series, but wouldn't people similarly assume Moore's V for Vendetta could not fit into a 2-2.5 hour movie? That worked pretty well, I thought.
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V was a shorter, less complex, story. If I remember correctly...
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V was 10 issues while Watchmen, 12. Not much difference in page length. You may have a point on complexity because I can't remember the details of Watchmen very well.
 
videoguy505 said:
Greatest graphic novel ever. Some would argue and say Maus, some would say The Dark Knight Returns, but it was Watchmen that really gave comics a shot in the arm and re-invented the way superhero stories are told.
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I'll have to check this out. It is pretty difficult IMO to top The Death of Captain Marvel as the #1 graphic novel.
 
Mike said:
jabarony said:
Mike said:
I'll have to refresh my memory on the Watchmen series, but wouldn't people similarly assume Moore's V for Vendetta could not fit into a 2-2.5 hour movie? That worked pretty well, I thought.
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V was a shorter, less complex, story. If I remember correctly...
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V was 10 issues while Watchmen, 12. Not much difference in page length. You may have a point on complexity because I can't remember the details of Watchmen very well.
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It's a densely layered story centered around a fairly simple plot. V for Vendetta translated to film about as well as it could have been done in two hours. I don't see how this would be possible with a Watchmen movie.
 
dickey moe said:
Mike said:
jabarony said:
Mike said:
I'll have to refresh my memory on the Watchmen series, but wouldn't people similarly assume Moore's V for Vendetta could not fit into a 2-2.5 hour movie? That worked pretty well, I thought.
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V was a shorter, less complex, story. If I remember correctly...
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V was 10 issues while Watchmen, 12. Not much difference in page length. You may have a point on complexity because I can't remember the details of Watchmen very well.
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It's a densely layered story centered around a fairly simple plot. V for Vendetta translated to film about as well as it could have been done in two hours. I don't see how this would be possible with a Watchmen movie.
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V for Vendetta had many pages of just that V guy flying around killing dudes, and maybe 3-5 characters in all.Watchmen had many pages chock filled with dialog, fictional documents, flashbacks, that pirate comic book story, 5x as many characters, et al..

WAY more complicated. 12 hour HBO miniseries is the way to go here.

 
I just can't see it at 2.5 hours. I heard they are filming all the pirate stuff for (#!$+sakes. I can not wait to see how they do it though.

 
"Watchmen" adds Gugino as do-gooder

By Borys Kit1 hour, 35 minutes ago

Carla Gugino has joined the cast of "Watchmen," an adaptation of the DC Comics limited series.

She joins Patrick Wilson, Jackie Earle Haley, Matthew Goode, Billy Crudup, Jeffrey Dean Morgan and Malin Akerman in the Warner Bros. movie, which is set in an alternate America that has passed a law banning costumed crime fighters. When one is murdered, the remaining members set out to solve the mystery.

Gugino will play Sally Jupiter, a burlesque dancer-turned-costumed heroine and sex symbol the Silk Spectre who is part of the Minutemen, a group of heroes who preceded the Watchmen. She also is the mother of the new Silk Spectre (Akerman). Sources said Gugino will portray Jupiter in varying eras, playing different ages throughout the movie.

Zack Snyder ("300") will direct the film, which is set to start shooting in the fall in Vancouver.

Gugino recently wrapped the indie sports drama "Our Lady of Victory" and appeared in a five-episode arc of HBO's "Entourage." She next appears in Universal's "American Gangster."

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Nice addition to an interesting cast...
 
saintfool said:
"Watchmen" adds Gugino as do-gooder

By Borys Kit1 hour, 35 minutes ago

Carla Gugino has joined the cast of "Watchmen," an adaptation of the DC Comics limited series.

She joins Patrick Wilson, Jackie Earle Haley, Matthew Goode, Billy Crudup, Jeffrey Dean Morgan and Malin Akerman in the Warner Bros. movie, which is set in an alternate America that has passed a law banning costumed crime fighters. When one is murdered, the remaining members set out to solve the mystery.

Gugino will play Sally Jupiter, a burlesque dancer-turned-costumed heroine and sex symbol the Silk Spectre who is part of the Minutemen, a group of heroes who preceded the Watchmen. She also is the mother of the new Silk Spectre (Akerman). Sources said Gugino will portray Jupiter in varying eras, playing different ages throughout the movie.

Zack Snyder ("300") will direct the film, which is set to start shooting in the fall in Vancouver.

Gugino recently wrapped the indie sports drama "Our Lady of Victory" and appeared in a five-episode arc of HBO's "Entourage." She next appears in Universal's "American Gangster."

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Nice addition to an interesting cast...
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;) Great rack err I mean choice.

 
I posted something about this a month or so ago...easily one of the greatest comics series ever done.

1) Daredevil - Born Again series

2) The Watchmen

2) The Dark Knight Returns

 
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