*** OFFICIAL WIS XVI Draft Thread *** (2 Viewers)

[oso diablo]

just using ERC# and innings for pitchers with no consideration for HRs. It's crude to say the least.

would also add that by using ERC#, you are already accounting for HR rate.

 

[Frostillicus]

c Tom Satriano, Angels.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

I take:

Sid Fernandez

Doc Detroit takes:

Bo Jackson

 

[Doug B]

25.11 (587): Rangers SS Brinkman, Ed

 

[Greco]

25.4 (580): Steve Mingori, RP Kansas City Royals

 

[larry_boy_44]

Ron Davis, P, New York Yankees

 

[Doug B]

just using ERC# and innings for pitchers with no consideration for HRs. It's crude to say the least.

would also add that by using ERC#, you are already accounting for HR rate.

Not quite with the weight jfranco gives HR/9, though.

 

[Super Nintendo Chalmers]

Joe Harris, PH Cleveland

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Ron Davis, P, New York Yankees

Shark move waiting on the YanksAnytime you get to draft the dad of a middling Mets 1B you HAVE to do it

 

[larry_boy_44]

Pitching Staff:Starters:Newhouser, Hal 1946 L 39 36 27 9 1 308.0 1237 226 66 11 103 289 .201 1.07 1.94 1 8 0Higuera, Teddy 1988 L 31 31 16 9 0 228.0 895 168 62 15 59 192 .207 1.00 2.45 6 0 6Hearn, Jim 1950 R 23 17 12 4 0 141.0 539 88 39 9 46 61 .182 .96 2.49 0 4 0Perez, Pascual 1988 R 27 27 12 8 0 188.0 741 133 51 15 44 131 .196 .94 2.44 7 5 10Jay, Joey 1958 R 19 13 7 5 0 102.0 407 63 24 8 45 78 .177 1.07 2.14 1 2 0Soto, Mario 1980 R 53 12 10 8 4 191.0 777 126 65 11 84 182 .187 1.11 3.07 2 6 4Bullpenavis, Ron 1981 R 65 0 6 8 9 111.0 431 71 33 9 38 126 .186 .99 2.71 0 2 2Caudill, Bill 1982 R 70 0 12 9 26 96.0 380 65 25 9 35 111 .192 1.05 2.35 1 2 0Lockwood, Skip 1976 R 56 0 10 7 19 95.0 375 62 28 6 34 108 .186 1.02 2.67 2 3 1McMahon, Don 1967 R 52 0 5 0 3 92.0 353 54 17 5 27 74 .173 .88 1.67 6 5 0Romo, Vicente 1968 R 41 1 5 3 12 85.0 328 44 15 5 32 54 .155 .90 1.60 2 4 0Messersmith, Andy 1968 R 28 5 4 2 4 82.0 321 44 20 3 35 74 .157 .98 2.21 1 3 1Russell, Jeff 1989 R 71 0 6 4 38 73.0 278 45 16 4 24 77 .182 .95 1.98 3 6 0Totals -- -- 575 142 132 76 116 1,792.0 7062 1189 461 110 606 1557 .188 1.00 2.32 32 50 24

 

[Brady Marino]

25.13- 1B/OF Don Baylor, California Angels

 

[larry_boy_44]

Ron Davis, P, New York Yankees

Shark move waiting on the YanksAnytime you get to draft the dad of a middling Mets 1B you HAVE to do it

I had some other ways i could go with that, but decided that another pitcher was the best path and those were the innings that best fit what I was looking for (low OAV, high Ks)

 

[Greco]

Evans Bros. Elevator Co. in simlive now. Come get some.

 

[Kraft...]

Jay Howell, P Dodgers

Using 88, My closer

 

[oso diablo]

25.14 Mike Norris - SP - Athletics

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robbed of the Cy Young Award in 1980.

 

[jfranco77]

just using ERC# and innings for pitchers with no consideration for HRs. It's crude to say the least.

would also add that by using ERC#, you are already accounting for HR rate.

I don't think ERC# weights it enough. Ideally I would use something like [ ERC# / HR9# ] or some other modifier.

 

[jfranco77]

FFA pick round 25: Mellie Wolfgang, P ChiSox

Both the best Mellie and the best Wolfgang available

 

[oso diablo]

I don't think ERC# weights it enough. Ideally I would use something like [ ERC# / HR9# ] or some other modifier.

hear ya', but that formula would be a massive overweighting of HR/9

 

[RnR]

25.23 - George Scott (1B, Brewers)

PIC

 

[oso diablo]

gonna try to get by with only 13 batters. 7900 PAs should be plenty, however.

 

[Doug B]

gonna try to get by with only 13 batters. 7900 PAs should be plenty, however.

Easily do-able In This Format.

 

[Greco]

:lickingwounds:

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

25.03 -- Chick Hafey, OF Cards

I thought about getting Ken Boyer to trade to larryboy later when his Gwynn experiment completely flops, but it's complicated with the franchise restrictions. So I'm taking I guy I was mulling when I took Zack Wheat for my 3rd OF spot. Hafey is an xbh machine and a righty bat so now he and Clemente can get some swings if I sit Wheat or Ashburn against lefties. Nothing like getting 336/407/652 in the 25th.

 

[larry_boy_44]

gonna try to get by with only 13 batters. 7900 PAs should be plenty, however.

12 batters, 5430 AB, ~6300 PA

 

[Kraft...]

A lot riding on 23 Dolf Luque for me, going with a 3 man rotation(Johnson, Hippo and Dolf) for the first time EVA. After my SP's next highest IP pitcher is 97(1600+ total)

 

[larry_boy_44]

25.03 -- Chick Hafey, OF Cards

I thought about getting Ken Boyer to trade to larryboy later when his Gwynn experiment completely flops, but it's complicated with the franchise restrictions. So I'm taking I guy I was mulling when I took Zack Wheat for my 3rd OF spot. Hafey is an xbh machine and a righty bat so now he and Clemente can get some swings if I sit Wheat or Ashburn against lefties. Nothing like getting 336/407/652 in the 25th.

if it flops I just move Gwynn to the OF and sit Wynn and have an OF of Gwynn, Jackson, and Williams (and no defense). Cecil Travis is equally capable at 3B and SS.

 

[the moops]

I wanted Devon white. thanks Doug. I'm tempted to go with Danny Ainge instead

 

[oso diablo]

wondering how many of the various franchise iterations we covered in this draft. i know there was at least one Seattle Pilot, so probably so.

 

[oso diablo]

Athletics = Kansas City Athletics

Braves = Boston Braves, Boston Bees, Boston Beaneaters, Boston Doves

Dodgers = Brooklyn Robins, Brooklyn Superbas

Indians = Cleveland Naps

Phillies = Philadelphia Blue Jay's (yes, WIS has the apostrophe)

Red Sox = Boston Americans

Yankees = New York Highlanders

did anyone pick a season from one of the above?

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

25.03 -- Chick Hafey, OF Cards

I thought about getting Ken Boyer to trade to larryboy later when his Gwynn experiment completely flops, but it's complicated with the franchise restrictions. So I'm taking I guy I was mulling when I took Zack Wheat for my 3rd OF spot. Hafey is an xbh machine and a righty bat so now he and Clemente can get some swings if I sit Wheat or Ashburn against lefties. Nothing like getting 336/407/652 in the 25th.

if it flops I just move Gwynn to the OF and sit Wynn and have an OF of Gwynn, Jackson, and Williams (and no defense). Cecil Travis is equally capable at 3B and SS.

GLLLWhy not take a Red Rolfe instead of Ron freaking Davis?

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Athletics = Kansas City Athletics

Braves = Boston Braves, Boston Bees, Boston Beaneaters, Boston Doves

Dodgers = Brooklyn Robins, Brooklyn Superbas

Indians = Cleveland Naps

Phillies = Philadelphia Blue Jay's (yes, WIS has the apostrophe)

Red Sox = Boston Americans

Yankees = New York Highlanders

did anyone pick a season from one of the above?

Cy is a Boston American in '05.Zack Wheat a Brooklyn Robin in '24

 

[larry_boy_44]

25.03 -- Chick Hafey, OF Cards

I thought about getting Ken Boyer to trade to larryboy later when his Gwynn experiment completely flops, but it's complicated with the franchise restrictions. So I'm taking I guy I was mulling when I took Zack Wheat for my 3rd OF spot. Hafey is an xbh machine and a righty bat so now he and Clemente can get some swings if I sit Wheat or Ashburn against lefties. Nothing like getting 336/407/652 in the 25th.

if it flops I just move Gwynn to the OF and sit Wynn and have an OF of Gwynn, Jackson, and Williams (and no defense). Cecil Travis is equally capable at 3B and SS.

GLLLWhy not take a Red Rolfe instead of Ron freaking Davis?

I saw value in getting some more IP (111 IP, .189 OAV#, 10.43 K/9#, 1.99 ERC#) and those are really good numbers.I'd be comfortable with using Ozzie at SS and Travis at 3B is necessary. I just don't see it being a major issue.

if Gwynn sucks at 3B and I switch:

1. 1B Sisler

2. CF Gwynn

3. RF Jackson

4. LF Williams

5. 3B Travis

6. 2B Evers

7. SS Smith

8. C Burgess

 

[Doug B]

Athletics = Kansas City Athletics

Braves = Boston Braves, Boston Bees, Boston Beaneaters, Boston Doves

Dodgers = Brooklyn Robins, Brooklyn Superbas

Indians = Cleveland Naps

Phillies = Philadelphia Blue Jay's (yes, WIS has the apostrophe)

Red Sox = Boston Americans

Yankees = New York Highlanders

did anyone pick a season from one of the above?

Lessee here ...- Nap Lajoie, himself, is a Cleveland Nap

- No KC Athletics seasons are likely to be used. Colavito, Maris, and Campaneris played for the KC A's at various times.

- Someone picked a Brooklyn Superba, and mentioned it in their write-up. Can't remember who, though.

- No Philadelphia Blue Jay's seasons were even taken.

- Bill Sweeney was a Boston Dove, and Johnny Bates was a Boston Beaneater and Dove.

- Looks like no NY Highlanders were taken

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Athletics = Kansas City Athletics

Braves = Boston Braves, Boston Bees, Boston Beaneaters, Boston Doves

Dodgers = Brooklyn Robins, Brooklyn Superbas

Indians = Cleveland Naps

Phillies = Philadelphia Blue Jay's (yes, WIS has the apostrophe)

Red Sox = Boston Americans

Yankees = New York Highlanders

did anyone pick a season from one of the above?

Cy is a Boston American in '05.Zack Wheat a Brooklyn Robin in '24

Ray Caldwell might have been a Highlander IIRC

 

[Greco]

Athletics = Kansas City Athletics

Braves = Boston Braves, Boston Bees, Boston Beaneaters, Boston Doves

Dodgers = Brooklyn Robins, Brooklyn Superbas

Indians = Cleveland Naps

Phillies = Philadelphia Blue Jay's (yes, WIS has the apostrophe)

Red Sox = Boston Americans

Yankees = New York Highlanders

did anyone pick a season from one of the above?

Johnny Frederick, Brooklyn Robins

 

[Doug B]

Here's what remains:Brewers - 1Expos - 1Mets - 1Orioles - 1Padres - 2Rangers - 2Reds - 1Royals - 1

 

[oso diablo]

- No KC Athletics seasons are likely to be used. Colavito, Maris, and Campaneris played for the KC A's at various times.

i came really close to picking Bob Cerv 1958 KC A's

 

[oso diablo]

Here's what remains:Rangers - 2

did you miss your own Rangers pick? i show 23 picked, with only pumpnick left.

 

[oso diablo]

Rd 25 pick, in order (in case of snipage):

Fred Krandell, C Pads

Fred Kendall?

 

[Koya]

Rd 25 pick, in order (in case of snipage):

Fred Krandell, C Pads

Fred Kendall?

Um, yeah... him.My bad.

 

[Doug B]

did you miss your own Rangers pick? i show 23 picked, with only pumpnick left.

D'oh!

 

[Doug B]

Here's what remains (corrected):Brewers - 1Expos - 1Mets - 1Orioles - 1Padres - 2Rangers - 1Reds - 1Royals - 1

 

[the moops]

Here's what remains (corrected):Brewers - 1Expos - 1Mets - 1Orioles - 1Padres - 2Rangers - 1Reds - 1Royals - 1

I still have my Blue Jay/mariner pick to make

 

[Eephus]

25.xx Bucky Walters P Reds336 more IP that I don't really need, plus he batted .325/.357/.433 (unnormalized) in 131 PAs.

 

[oso diablo]

I still have my Blue Jay/mariner pick to make

i show you with Danny Ainge

 

[the moops]

I'll take Dave Collins, OF, Blue Jays

 

[Doug B]

These picks will complete the WIS XVI Draft:24.16 (568): pumpnick - 25.9 (585): pumpnick - 24.24 (576): Chemical X - 25.1 (577): Chemical X - 25.10 (586): Hoos First - 25.19 (595): Arsenal of Doom - 25.20 (596): SoCalBroncoFan - 25.22 (598): Spartans Rule -

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

I'm taking Wbbdie Fryman LHP for my Spos pick

 

[SoCalBroncoFan]

These picks will complete the WIS XVI Draft:

24.16 (568): pumpnick -

25.9 (585): pumpnick -

24.24 (576): Chemical X -

25.1 (577): Chemical X -

25.10 (586): Hoos First -

25.19 (595): Arsenal of Doom -

25.20 (596): SoCalBroncoFan - Mike Felder OF Brewers

25.22 (598): Spartans Rule -

 

[Doug B]

OK ... front page is updated as of right now. The WIS League Number is shown in the first post (in red) for those that are ready to join.

...

I will be pretty much out all day tomorrow. Might be able to get a glance at the board in the afternoon, but can't guarantee it. Meanwhile, Kraft has the Googlesheet going, and jfranco already created the WIS league. So, needless to say ... my work here is done.