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OFFICIAL WIS XVIII THREAD: An Ode to Claude Hendrix (2 Viewers)

18.11 - Joe Black, RP 1950s

Went 15-4 in 1952 despite only starting twice. IP/G is something like 2.5, so could be useful if he doesn't spend the season getting shelled.

 
18.11 - Joe Black, RP 1950s

Went 15-4 in 1952 despite only starting twice. IP/G is something like 2.5, so could be useful if he doesn't spend the season getting shelled.
Also was the first black player to win a WS game. He was 8 innings short of winning the ERA title.

The Arizona fall league MVP is named after Black.

"His legacy is the thought that unheralded players can rise to the heights, that someone who at the time was considered an ordinary athlete could wind up pitching Game 1 of the World Series," said Vin Scully, the Dodgers' play-by-play announcer since 1951.

 
18.11 - Joe Black, RP 1950s

Went 15-4 in 1952 despite only starting twice. IP/G is something like 2.5, so could be useful if he doesn't spend the season getting shelled.
Also was the first black player to win a WS game. He was 8 innings short of winning the ERA title.The Arizona fall league MVP is named after Black.

"His legacy is the thought that unheralded players can rise to the heights, that someone who at the time was considered an ordinary athlete could wind up pitching Game 1 of the World Series," said Vin Scully, the Dodgers' play-by-play announcer since 1951.
In my mind's ear, I can hear Scully saying that--the rhythm of "rise to the heights", a pause, the pitch of his voice going a little higher around "at the time", extending the "or" in "ordinary" and the gravitas of the World Series. He's really a national treasure.

 
Tim McCabe, P, 1910s

only 44 innings, but i had him in a prior sim and he was a decent closer.......i wont win 40 games, so the innings are OK.

 
A little housekeeping... Noodles Hahn will move to 1899 season.

This makes way for: Deacon Phillippe (SP) 1900s

 
So, let's nerdsource this #####.

And then I'll probably be contrarian and do the opposite.

At top level **** Allen would be at 3B. Has a higher raw BA and SLG and even higher normalized. But a lot more Ks and a lot les walks.

At 1B, he's in a year where there should be huge normalization help and makes a lot more contact. Obviously it's a far less scarce position ( a lot of meh available at 3B still but viable and some decent 1B bats that won't even be drafted in this at the end of the day). It also allows for a better fielding 3B.

So, do I go much more contact and many more walks and huge normalization at 1B, or the conservative approach of good power (though less than the 1B season since the higher SLG is due to singles resulting in a lower ops at 3b by a decent amount) and a ton of k with weak d at third.

Curious if anyone would even consider 1b which I'm dying to test out.

 
So, let's nerdsource this #####.

And then I'll probably be contrarian and do the opposite.

At top level **** Allen would be at 3B. Has a higher raw BA and SLG and even higher normalized. But a lot more Ks and a lot les walks.

At 1B, he's in a year where there should be huge normalization help and makes a lot more contact. Obviously it's a far less scarce position ( a lot of meh available at 3B still but viable and some decent 1B bats that won't even be drafted in this at the end of the day). It also allows for a better fielding 3B.

So, do I go much more contact and many more walks and huge normalization at 1B, or the conservative approach of good power (though less than the 1B season since the higher SLG is due to singles resulting in a lower ops at 3b by a decent amount) and a ton of k with weak d at third.

Curious if anyone would even consider 1b which I'm dying to test out.
Sounds like you're leaning towards his 1B already, which is what I'd choose. :shrug:

 
So, let's nerdsource this #####.

And then I'll probably be contrarian and do the opposite.

At top level **** Allen would be at 3B. Has a higher raw BA and SLG and even higher normalized. But a lot more Ks and a lot les walks.

At 1B, he's in a year where there should be huge normalization help and makes a lot more contact. Obviously it's a far less scarce position ( a lot of meh available at 3B still but viable and some decent 1B bats that won't even be drafted in this at the end of the day). It also allows for a better fielding 3B.

So, do I go much more contact and many more walks and huge normalization at 1B, or the conservative approach of good power (though less than the 1B season since the higher SLG is due to singles resulting in a lower ops at 3b by a decent amount) and a ton of k with weak d at third.

Curious if anyone would even consider 1b which I'm dying to test out.
Sounds like you're leaning towards his 1B already, which is what I'd choose. :shrug:
Have been the whole time, but curious what others think. Getting to that slow part of the draft.

 
So, let's nerdsource this #####.

And then I'll probably be contrarian and do the opposite.

At top level **** Allen would be at 3B. Has a higher raw BA and SLG and even higher normalized. But a lot more Ks and a lot les walks.

At 1B, he's in a year where there should be huge normalization help and makes a lot more contact. Obviously it's a far less scarce position ( a lot of meh available at 3B still but viable and some decent 1B bats that won't even be drafted in this at the end of the day). It also allows for a better fielding 3B.

So, do I go much more contact and many more walks and huge normalization at 1B, or the conservative approach of good power (though less than the 1B season since the higher SLG is due to singles resulting in a lower ops at 3b by a decent amount) and a ton of k with weak d at third.

Curious if anyone would even consider 1b which I'm dying to test out.
Sounds like you're leaning towards his 1B already, which is what I'd choose. :shrug:
Have been the whole time, but curious what others think. Getting to that slow part of the draft.
Bad defense at 3rd usually doesn't end well.

 
So, let's nerdsource this #####.

And then I'll probably be contrarian and do the opposite.

At top level **** Allen would be at 3B. Has a higher raw BA and SLG and even higher normalized. But a lot more Ks and a lot les walks.

At 1B, he's in a year where there should be huge normalization help and makes a lot more contact. Obviously it's a far less scarce position ( a lot of meh available at 3B still but viable and some decent 1B bats that won't even be drafted in this at the end of the day). It also allows for a better fielding 3B.

So, do I go much more contact and many more walks and huge normalization at 1B, or the conservative approach of good power (though less than the 1B season since the higher SLG is due to singles resulting in a lower ops at 3b by a decent amount) and a ton of k with weak d at third.

Curious if anyone would even consider 1b which I'm dying to test out.
Sounds like you're leaning towards his 1B already, which is what I'd choose. :shrug:
Have been the whole time, but curious what others think. Getting to that slow part of the draft.
Bad defense at 3rd usually doesn't end well.
Yeah, I forget which sim but I had McGraw and he was an unmitigated disaster. Got on base a lot, had no power so was ok offensively, but a revolving door at 3B.

Now, if I had one more reliever it would make my choice easier, although with this set up, some of the deadballers should be ok to start and relieve some, which has worked for me in the past.

 
Bad defense at 3rd usually doesn't end well.
Define "bad" :D

I've had the opposite experience -- good defense at 3B is very nice ... but, to me, it's been more it's more luxury than neccessity.

If I were in Koya's situation, I'd even consider using that 70s 1B season at 3B, since Allen at least has a D-/D- grade there. Of course, you gotta look at the advanced fielding stats and make sure it's merely a bad defensive season, and not something like .750 FLD%.

 
So, let's nerdsource this #####.

And then I'll probably be contrarian and do the opposite.

At top level **** Allen would be at 3B. Has a higher raw BA and SLG and even higher normalized. But a lot more Ks and a lot les walks.

At 1B, he's in a year where there should be huge normalization help and makes a lot more contact. Obviously it's a far less scarce position ( a lot of meh available at 3B still but viable and some decent 1B bats that won't even be drafted in this at the end of the day). It also allows for a better fielding 3B.

So, do I go much more contact and many more walks and huge normalization at 1B, or the conservative approach of good power (though less than the 1B season since the higher SLG is due to singles resulting in a lower ops at 3b by a decent amount) and a ton of k with weak d at third.

Curious if anyone would even consider 1b which I'm dying to test out.
Sounds like you're leaning towards his 1B already, which is what I'd choose. :shrug:
Have been the whole time, but curious what others think. Getting to that slow part of the draft.
Bad defense at 3rd usually doesn't end well.
Yeah, I forget which sim but I had McGraw and he was an unmitigated disaster. Got on base a lot, had no power so was ok offensively, but a revolving door at 3B.

Now, if I had one more reliever it would make my choice easier, although with this set up, some of the deadballers should be ok to start and relieve some, which has worked for me in the past.
Personally, I'd start him at 3rd and get a caddy that can play D (which is what I'm doing with Killebrew and Traynor). 3B Allen + remaning 1B >>> 1B Allen + remaining 3B, IMO. :2cents:

 
Bad defense at 3rd usually doesn't end well.
Define "bad" :D

I've had the opposite experience -- good defense at 3B is very nice ... but, to me, it's been more it's more luxury than neccessity.

If I were in Koya's situation, I'd even consider using that 70s 1B season at 3B, since Allen at least has a D-/D- grade there. Of course, you gotta look at the advanced fielding stats and make sure it's merely a bad defensive season, and not something like .750 FLD%.
I don't think even I am crazy enough to do that. Plus, I can use the steller D/D 3B eligibility of Rudy York who won't get singles, but will get a few walks with a ton of power - and seems to be a sim favorite as well.

 
So, let's nerdsource this #####.

And then I'll probably be contrarian and do the opposite.

At top level **** Allen would be at 3B. Has a higher raw BA and SLG and even higher normalized. But a lot more Ks and a lot les walks.

At 1B, he's in a year where there should be huge normalization help and makes a lot more contact. Obviously it's a far less scarce position ( a lot of meh available at 3B still but viable and some decent 1B bats that won't even be drafted in this at the end of the day). It also allows for a better fielding 3B.

So, do I go much more contact and many more walks and huge normalization at 1B, or the conservative approach of good power (though less than the 1B season since the higher SLG is due to singles resulting in a lower ops at 3b by a decent amount) and a ton of k with weak d at third.

Curious if anyone would even consider 1b which I'm dying to test out.
Sounds like you're leaning towards his 1B already, which is what I'd choose. :shrug:
Have been the whole time, but curious what others think. Getting to that slow part of the draft.
Bad defense at 3rd usually doesn't end well.
Yeah, I forget which sim but I had McGraw and he was an unmitigated disaster. Got on base a lot, had no power so was ok offensively, but a revolving door at 3B.

Now, if I had one more reliever it would make my choice easier, although with this set up, some of the deadballers should be ok to start and relieve some, which has worked for me in the past.
Personally, I'd start him at 3rd and get a caddy that can play D (which is what I'm doing with Killebrew and Traynor). 3B Allen + remaning 1B >>> 1B Allen + remaining 3B, IMO. :2cents:
I had thought about that, and definitely can grab a 1B and if it's too bad at 3B on D, abandon the experiment. And while the remaining 3B is meh, it's been about the same meh for a long time with Freddy Lindstrom marginally better than guys left, and in my park with -1 singles, not even sure about that.

 
So, let's nerdsource this #####.

And then I'll probably be contrarian and do the opposite.

At top level **** Allen would be at 3B. Has a higher raw BA and SLG and even higher normalized. But a lot more Ks and a lot les walks.

At 1B, he's in a year where there should be huge normalization help and makes a lot more contact. Obviously it's a far less scarce position ( a lot of meh available at 3B still but viable and some decent 1B bats that won't even be drafted in this at the end of the day). It also allows for a better fielding 3B.

So, do I go much more contact and many more walks and huge normalization at 1B, or the conservative approach of good power (though less than the 1B season since the higher SLG is due to singles resulting in a lower ops at 3b by a decent amount) and a ton of k with weak d at third.

Curious if anyone would even consider 1b which I'm dying to test out.
Sounds like you're leaning towards his 1B already, which is what I'd choose. :shrug:
Have been the whole time, but curious what others think. Getting to that slow part of the draft.
Best value is at 3B IMO

 
So, let's nerdsource this #####.

And then I'll probably be contrarian and do the opposite.

At top level **** Allen would be at 3B. Has a higher raw BA and SLG and even higher normalized. But a lot more Ks and a lot les walks.

At 1B, he's in a year where there should be huge normalization help and makes a lot more contact. Obviously it's a far less scarce position ( a lot of meh available at 3B still but viable and some decent 1B bats that won't even be drafted in this at the end of the day). It also allows for a better fielding 3B.

So, do I go much more contact and many more walks and huge normalization at 1B, or the conservative approach of good power (though less than the 1B season since the higher SLG is due to singles resulting in a lower ops at 3b by a decent amount) and a ton of k with weak d at third.

Curious if anyone would even consider 1b which I'm dying to test out.
Sounds like you're leaning towards his 1B already, which is what I'd choose. :shrug:
Have been the whole time, but curious what others think. Getting to that slow part of the draft.
Bad defense at 3rd usually doesn't end well.
Yeah, I forget which sim but I had McGraw and he was an unmitigated disaster. Got on base a lot, had no power so was ok offensively, but a revolving door at 3B.

Now, if I had one more reliever it would make my choice easier, although with this set up, some of the deadballers should be ok to start and relieve some, which has worked for me in the past.
Personally, I'd start him at 3rd and get a caddy that can play D (which is what I'm doing with Killebrew and Traynor). 3B Allen + remaning 1B >>> 1B Allen + remaining 3B, IMO. :2cents:
I had thought about that, and definitely can grab a 1B and if it's too bad at 3B on D, abandon the experiment. And while the remaining 3B is meh, it's been about the same meh for a long time with Freddy Lindstrom marginally better than guys left, and in my park with -1 singles, not even sure about that.
I used the 60s 3B season once or twice and got decent results. I drafted my 1B very early this time but there's always been good positional depth in previous all-time sims. I suspect Allen has only been used at 1B in the disco era leeg.

 
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