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OFFICIAL WIS XVIII THREAD: An Ode to Claude Hendrix (1 Viewer)
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Frostillicus
Footballguy
11.20 SP Roger Nelson, 1970s
The HR/9 is a little high, but all the other metrics check out. Not sure exactly how I'm going to end up handling his 5 IP/G, but I'll figure something out.
The HR/9 is a little high, but all the other metrics check out. Not sure exactly how I'm going to end up handling his 5 IP/G, but I'll figure something out.
Doug B
Footballguy
I've had this guy twice, and he way outperformed his stats twice. Must be something to jfranco's Deadballer Love.
Doug B
Footballguy
Tell me if this rings a bell:
Didn't the WIS powers-that-be adjust the sim engine's calculatons at one time to dramatically reduce the HR-prevention of deadball pitchers? And then afterwards a lot of WIS users complained, so they dialed back (but didn't eliminate) whatever that engine correction was?
Koya
Footballguy
I recall some discussion of lost hrs and the fact that some amount would translate in non hr extra base hits - the theory being it's not as if these guys didn't get hit but with fields with no fences and the deadball there needed to be a better normalization than no hr = out.
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
Back in WIS II homeruns turned into doubles at a preposterously high rate. Carlos Delgado had 82 doubles for me in that sim.
jfranco77
Footballguy
Yes, I did, but you guys have gotten a lot smarter
The HRs and deadballers approach used to work a lot better before everyone wised up. Also one of my wins was the Uecker league, with no deadballers. And I did draft the lowest possible HR/9 guys and a lot of power on offense.
SoCalBroncoFan
Footballguy
jfranco77
Footballguy
That does sound sort of familiar. It used to be that they would never give up any HRs. Then they tried to make them give up a lot (basically what their HR/9+ would dictate without using the raw numbers) but it failed and they went most of the way back. Don't remember the details but it was a while ago.
Super Nintendo Chalmers
Footballguy
Nothing like being 5 or 6 drafts behind the curve, .500 here I come.
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
I'm still a believer in the HR/deadballer approach. I think it's just about getting good enough value in the draft, which has gotten tougher over time.Yes, I did, but you guys have gotten a lot smarter
It feels like this is the best draft I've had in a long time, but I guess we'll see.
Koya
Footballguy
Your offense looks sick. My big question in these leagues is that to win it all, you know you will have to go through deadballers (in the playoffs if nothing else) and if you rely too much on the HR, that could be a killer.I'm still a believer in the HR/deadballer approach. I think it's just about getting good enough value in the draft, which has gotten tougher over time.Yes, I did, but you guys have gotten a lot smarter
It feels like this is the best draft I've had in a long time, but I guess we'll see.
Such different strategy as compared with the limited player pool of the last draft. I remember being concerned about all the walks that Nomo would give up, but I figured that without hugely potent offenses, hopefully those wouldn't hurt as much. In that case I was right. Here you really need to pick your poison. No HRs but gives up hits, that could hurt against teams with high AVGs, give up some HRs but great everywhere else and a team like Sparty's will eat you alive. Every mistake here is magnified and you get punished big time, for it.
Super Nintendo Chalmers
Footballguy
11 . 21 - Bogart xx:11
11 . 22 - Larryboy
11 . 23 - Kraft
11 . 24 - Pumpnick
11 . 22 - Larryboy
11 . 23 - Kraft
11 . 24 - Pumpnick
rodg12
Footballguy
First pick I ever remember causing this much outrage. I feel like I'm starting to maybe get the hang of this WIS thing a bit.
larry_boy_44
Footballguy
Bob Feller, SP 1940s
jfranco77
Footballguy
It is going to be really hard to do rankings this time. I am basically accounting for all the value a player provides, so when someone drafts Reb Russell to be a setup guy, they get more credit than they should. Once we get into the late rounds and people are taking 500+ PA guys as backups, it will get pretty skewed.
I can raise the replacement level I'm using. I'm not sure what the negative effects of that would be.
As of right now I just built the first draft of the rankings and this is what I've got. Keep in mind some teams have 10 and some have 11. This is up to whoever was picked before Gorman Thomas.
1, Sparty 1024
2. RNR 1006
3. jfranco 969
4. SNC 967
5. Avoid 958
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22. Socal 660
23. Arsenal 650
24. Larry 617
I can raise the replacement level I'm using. I'm not sure what the negative effects of that would be.
As of right now I just built the first draft of the rankings and this is what I've got. Keep in mind some teams have 10 and some have 11. This is up to whoever was picked before Gorman Thomas.
1, Sparty 1024
2. RNR 1006
3. jfranco 969
4. SNC 967
5. Avoid 958
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22. Socal 660
23. Arsenal 650
24. Larry 617
Brady Marino
Footballguy
Glad I'm not last, but I have to think my team is no better than middle of the pack, right?
Arsenal of Doom
Footballguy
My teams never do well in any franco ranking.
Koya
Footballguy
Regardless of who is doing them my teams are not usually favored by rankings. Usually at the top of the middle grouping for my better teams.
Just shows there are a lot of ways to skin a cat.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
I have no idea what I'm doing with Russell, but he won't just be a set-up guy. Tandem, spot, long relief, setup, anything to get as many innings as I can.
So I should get full credit.
So I should get full credit.
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
I tend to do better in rankings than on the field. Probably because I'm lazy and do a half-### job managing my team.
larry_boy_44
Footballguy
neither are mine, and I feel like my last few teams have been .500-ish (and often better)
Notorious T.R.E.
Showdown!™ Administrator
Do the top teams already have full lineups?
Super Nintendo Chalmers
Footballguy
I'm short a 3B and will undoubtedly mess-up my relievers, so I will fall off a little.
Koya
Footballguy
Eephus
Footballguy
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
There's an awful lot of talk about feelings going on in this thread
larry_boy_44
Footballguy
adjusted stats
CF Kenny Lofton .343/.404/.509
OF Tony Gwynn .371/.447/.500
SS Honus Wagner .368/.431/.583
3B Ron Santo .317/.408/.569 30 HR
2B Rod Carew .366/.436/.452
1B Dan Brouthers .354/.466/.533
SP Johan Santan 228 IP .189 OAV .90 WHIP 1.87 ERC 2.32 ERA 7.53 K/9
SP Dazzy Vance 325 IP .202 OAV 1.01 WHIP 2.08 ERC 2.15 ERA 15.27 K/9
SP Jim Hearn 141 IP .182 OAV .93 WHIP 1.69 ERC 2.37 ERA
SP Bob Feller 337 IP .205 OAV 1.08 WHIP 2.23 ERC 2.41 ERA 8.78 K/9
RP Ferdie Schupp 150 IP .175 OAV .91 WHIP 1.55 ERC 1.12 ERA
CF Kenny Lofton .343/.404/.509
OF Tony Gwynn .371/.447/.500
SS Honus Wagner .368/.431/.583
3B Ron Santo .317/.408/.569 30 HR
2B Rod Carew .366/.436/.452
1B Dan Brouthers .354/.466/.533
SP Johan Santan 228 IP .189 OAV .90 WHIP 1.87 ERC 2.32 ERA 7.53 K/9
SP Dazzy Vance 325 IP .202 OAV 1.01 WHIP 2.08 ERC 2.15 ERA 15.27 K/9
SP Jim Hearn 141 IP .182 OAV .93 WHIP 1.69 ERC 2.37 ERA
SP Bob Feller 337 IP .205 OAV 1.08 WHIP 2.23 ERC 2.41 ERA 8.78 K/9
RP Ferdie Schupp 150 IP .175 OAV .91 WHIP 1.55 ERC 1.12 ERA
Kraft...
Footballguy
NOT THE SAMEThere's an awful lot of talk about feelings going on in this thread
Notorious T.R.E.
Showdown!™ Administrator
Eephus
Footballguy
For the bullpen, you need about 1400 IP/162 overall. In this format, there's no cost penalty for going over that. Sometimes it's useful to have an extra starter in case one of your guys ####s the bed.
I'll typically go with 4-5 short relievers and a couple of guys who can throw longer than 1.5 IP/G. Your mileage may vary.
http://www.whatifsports.com/knowledgebase/KB_Article_Details.aspx?kbid=36 has some good info about bullpen roles.
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larry_boy_44
Footballguy
Jocko Milligan, C, 1890s
larry_boy_44
Footballguy
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
The one sim that really threw me off was the RBI baseball sim. IIRC Hoos won with a team that didn't hit for any power. I thought his team was going to be awful.Your offense looks sick. My big question in these leagues is that to win it all, you know you will have to go through deadballers (in the playoffs if nothing else) and if you rely too much on the HR, that could be a killer.I'm still a believer in the HR/deadballer approach. I think it's just about getting good enough value in the draft, which has gotten tougher over time.Yes, I did, but you guys have gotten a lot smarter
It feels like this is the best draft I've had in a long time, but I guess we'll see.
Such different strategy as compared with the limited player pool of the last draft. I remember being concerned about all the walks that Nomo would give up, but I figured that without hugely potent offenses, hopefully those wouldn't hurt as much. In that case I was right. Here you really need to pick your poison. No HRs but gives up hits, that could hurt against teams with high AVGs, give up some HRs but great everywhere else and a team like Sparty's will eat you alive. Every mistake here is magnified and you get punished big time, for it.
Speaking of that, best wishes to Hoos and his family.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
SoCalBroncoFan
Footballguy
Why do your rankings always hate me? Is it because my guys have no power? Do I just suck at this? I always seem to do ok when the season rolls around...
