OFFICIAL WIS XVIII THREAD: An Ode to Claude Hendrix (1 Viewer)

[Kraft...]

DD takes

18.19 Pops Stargell, "Pinch Hitter" 70s

 

[Kraft...]

So, let's nerdsource this #####.

And then I'll probably be contrarian and do the opposite.

At top level **** Allen would be at 3B. Has a higher raw BA and SLG and even higher normalized. But a lot more Ks and a lot les walks.

At 1B, he's in a year where there should be huge normalization help and makes a lot more contact. Obviously it's a far less scarce position ( a lot of meh available at 3B still but viable and some decent 1B bats that won't even be drafted in this at the end of the day). It also allows for a better fielding 3B.

So, do I go much more contact and many more walks and huge normalization at 1B, or the conservative approach of good power (though less than the 1B season since the higher SLG is due to singles resulting in a lower ops at 3b by a decent amount) and a ton of k with weak d at third.

Curious if anyone would even consider 1b which I'm dying to test out.

Sounds like you're leaning towards his 1B already, which is what I'd choose.

Have been the whole time, but curious what others think. Getting to that slow part of the draft.

Bad defense at 3rd usually doesn't end well.

Yeah, I forget which sim but I had McGraw and he was an unmitigated disaster. Got on base a lot, had no power so was ok offensively, but a revolving door at 3B.

Now, if I had one more reliever it would make my choice easier, although with this set up, some of the deadballers should be ok to start and relieve some, which has worked for me in the past.

Personally, I'd start him at 3rd and get a caddy that can play D (which is what I'm doing with Killebrew and Traynor). 3B Allen + remaning 1B >>> 1B Allen + remaining 3B, IMO.

I had thought about that, and definitely can grab a 1B and if it's too bad at 3B on D, abandon the experiment. And while the remaining 3B is meh, it's been about the same meh for a long time with Freddy Lindstrom marginally better than guys left, and in my park with -1 singles, not even sure about that.

I used the 60s 3B season once or twice and got decent results. I drafted my 1B very early this time but there's always been good positional depth in previous all-time sims. I suspect Allen has only been used at 1B in the disco era leeg.

Same here, 3B Allen has been berry berry good to me(who's old enough to get that?)

 

[Koya]

I'll be disappointed if the CHAMP doesn't stick his 1B plan that he's been yapping about all draft.

The champ keeps his true intentions secret.

Including from himself

 

[Doug B]

I don't think even I am crazy enough to do that. Plus, I can use the steller D/D 3B eligibility of Rudy York who won't get singles, but will get a few walks with a ton of power - and seems to be a sim favorite as well.

Out of curiosity, I checked 1972 Allen's fielding numbers. Never mind what I said ... he's the 4th-worst D- fielder that season.

 

[Koya]

So, let's nerdsource this #####.

And then I'll probably be contrarian and do the opposite.

At top level **** Allen would be at 3B. Has a higher raw BA and SLG and even higher normalized. But a lot more Ks and a lot les walks.

At 1B, he's in a year where there should be huge normalization help and makes a lot more contact. Obviously it's a far less scarce position ( a lot of meh available at 3B still but viable and some decent 1B bats that won't even be drafted in this at the end of the day). It also allows for a better fielding 3B.

So, do I go much more contact and many more walks and huge normalization at 1B, or the conservative approach of good power (though less than the 1B season since the higher SLG is due to singles resulting in a lower ops at 3b by a decent amount) and a ton of k with weak d at third.

Curious if anyone would even consider 1b which I'm dying to test out.

Sounds like you're leaning towards his 1B already, which is what I'd choose.

Have been the whole time, but curious what others think. Getting to that slow part of the draft.

Bad defense at 3rd usually doesn't end well.

Yeah, I forget which sim but I had McGraw and he was an unmitigated disaster. Got on base a lot, had no power so was ok offensively, but a revolving door at 3B.

Now, if I had one more reliever it would make my choice easier, although with this set up, some of the deadballers should be ok to start and relieve some, which has worked for me in the past.

Personally, I'd start him at 3rd and get a caddy that can play D (which is what I'm doing with Killebrew and Traynor). 3B Allen + remaning 1B >>> 1B Allen + remaining 3B, IMO.

I had thought about that, and definitely can grab a 1B and if it's too bad at 3B on D, abandon the experiment. And while the remaining 3B is meh, it's been about the same meh for a long time with Freddy Lindstrom marginally better than guys left, and in my park with -1 singles, not even sure about that.

I used the 60s 3B season once or twice and got decent results. I drafted my 1B very early this time but there's always been good positional depth in previous all-time sims. I suspect Allen has only been used at 1B in the disco era leeg.

Same here, 3B Allen has been berry berry good to me(who's old enough to get that?)

Has for me, too. But it seems the 72 season does particularly well.

 

[rodg12]

SCBF takes...

18.20 - Roger Bresnahan, C, 1900s

ETA: Acer PMed

 

[AcerFC]

I'll go with

Stan Hack, 3B, 1940s

Please pm aod. Thanks

 

[Kraft...]

Glad I grabbed McCarty where I did, lots of backup catcher types flying off the board.

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

Charlie Keller OF 40's

Can grab a few open OF starts I'll need plus has some utility as a LH pinch hitter and defensive sub.

 

[rodg12]

Really should have done a DH with this league...

 

[Eephus]

Glad I grabbed McCarty where I did, lots of backup catcher types flying off the board.

Porter is my starter

 

[the moops]

I'm here. Give me a few

 

[the moops]

Johnny Blanchard. Catcher, 1960s.

That guy still around?

 

[the moops]

I'm on my phone these days so searching the doc is a #####.

 

[Eephus]

Johnny Blanchard. Catcher, 1960s.

That guy still around?

Looks OK

 

[Doug B]

18.24 (432): UT Sammy Strang, 1900s

19.01 (433): PH/OF Gavvy Cravath, 1910s

 

[avoiding injuries]

Johnny Allen, RP 1940's

 

[jfranco77]

So, let's nerdsource this #####.

And then I'll probably be contrarian and do the opposite.

At top level **** Allen would be at 3B. Has a higher raw BA and SLG and even higher normalized. But a lot more Ks and a lot les walks.

At 1B, he's in a year where there should be huge normalization help and makes a lot more contact. Obviously it's a far less scarce position ( a lot of meh available at 3B still but viable and some decent 1B bats that won't even be drafted in this at the end of the day). It also allows for a better fielding 3B.

So, do I go much more contact and many more walks and huge normalization at 1B, or the conservative approach of good power (though less than the 1B season since the higher SLG is due to singles resulting in a lower ops at 3b by a decent amount) and a ton of k with weak d at third.

Curious if anyone would even consider 1b which I'm dying to test out.

Are you talking about Allen's 66 season at 3B? Where he's B+/C- ? If you have the flexibility to move him to the 60s that is absolutely what I would do. Allen + whatever 1B is left will outhit Allen72 + whatever 3B you end up with. It's not like 66 is a bad year for normalization. I don't really worry about contact rate very much.

Wait, I mean, do the exact opposite of that. Play the D-/D- 72 version at 3B. Yeah, that's the ticket.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

So, let's nerdsource this #####.

And then I'll probably be contrarian and do the opposite.

At top level **** Allen would be at 3B. Has a higher raw BA and SLG and even higher normalized. But a lot more Ks and a lot les walks.

At 1B, he's in a year where there should be huge normalization help and makes a lot more contact. Obviously it's a far less scarce position ( a lot of meh available at 3B still but viable and some decent 1B bats that won't even be drafted in this at the end of the day). It also allows for a better fielding 3B.

So, do I go much more contact and many more walks and huge normalization at 1B, or the conservative approach of good power (though less than the 1B season since the higher SLG is due to singles resulting in a lower ops at 3b by a decent amount) and a ton of k with weak d at third.

Curious if anyone would even consider 1b which I'm dying to test out.

Are you talking about Allen's 66 season at 3B? Where he's B+/C- ? If you have the flexibility to move him to the 60s that is absolutely what I would do. Allen + whatever 1B is left will outhit Allen72 + whatever 3B you end up with. It's not like 66 is a bad year for normalization. I don't really worry about contact rate very much.

Wait, I mean, do the exact opposite of that. Play the D-/D- 72 version at 3B. Yeah, that's the ticket.

Yeah, can we stop telling him the no-brainer move please?

 

[Pumpnick]

my team is ready to mash dr. d's top ranked team

 

[Koya]

So, let's nerdsource this #####.

And then I'll probably be contrarian and do the opposite.

At top level **** Allen would be at 3B. Has a higher raw BA and SLG and even higher normalized. But a lot more Ks and a lot les walks.

At 1B, he's in a year where there should be huge normalization help and makes a lot more contact. Obviously it's a far less scarce position ( a lot of meh available at 3B still but viable and some decent 1B bats that won't even be drafted in this at the end of the day). It also allows for a better fielding 3B.

So, do I go much more contact and many more walks and huge normalization at 1B, or the conservative approach of good power (though less than the 1B season since the higher SLG is due to singles resulting in a lower ops at 3b by a decent amount) and a ton of k with weak d at third.

Curious if anyone would even consider 1b which I'm dying to test out.

Are you talking about Allen's 66 season at 3B? Where he's B+/C- ? If you have the flexibility to move him to the 60s that is absolutely what I would do. Allen + whatever 1B is left will outhit Allen72 + whatever 3B you end up with. It's not like 66 is a bad year for normalization. I don't really worry about contact rate very much.

Wait, I mean, do the exact opposite of that. Play the D-/D- 72 version at 3B. Yeah, that's the ticket.

Yeah, can we stop telling him the no-brainer move please?

Still do t think its as no brainer as suggested. 72 should have much higher obp and considerably more xbh and I have enough ph and the ability to use York at 3B as well.

That was my former reference about pick with my gut or for franckings.

 

[the moops]

Harry coveleski. Pitcher 1900's

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

'66 has 75 xbh vs. 70 for '72.

 

[Spartans Rule]

I think the obvious move for Koya is to use 1965 **** Allen at SS, move Vern Stephens into the OF and use 1943, bring Musial in to play 1B, slide Phillips over to 3B, and then draft a new 2B from the loaded remaining pool.

 

[Brady Marino]

I think the obvious move for Koya is to use 1965 **** Allen at SS, move Vern Stephens into the OF and use 1943, bring Musial in to play 1B, slide Phillips over to 3B, and then draft a new 2B from the loaded remaining pool.

Sparty knows things.

 

[Brady Marino]

BTW, there's still one full season 2B that I'm kinda surprised is still out there.

 

[Eephus]

I think the obvious move for Koya is to use 1965 **** Allen at SS, move Vern Stephens into the OF and use 1943, bring Musial in to play 1B, slide Phillips over to 3B, and then draft a new 2B from the loaded remaining pool.

Deion Sanders is still available to play 2B

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

Frank Chance 1B 1900s

Could possibly platoon him with Big Klu.

 

[Koya]

'66 has 75 xbh vs. 70 for '72.

True but should end up with less xbh as it's less xbh per AB ( not pa) and will be fewer walks in this . That seems to be reflected in their respective performance in the sim.

 

[Eephus]

Frank Chance 1B 1900s

Could possibly platoon him with Big Klu.

Tulowitzki to Schoendienst to Chance is an even sadder lexicon

 

[Eephus]

'66 has 75 xbh vs. 70 for '72.

True but should end up with less xbh as it's less xbh per AB ( not pa) and will be fewer walks in this . That seems to be reflected in their respective performance in the sim.

FFS, just put him at 1B

 

[Koya]

'66 has 75 xbh vs. 70 for '72.

True but should end up with less xbh as it's less xbh per AB ( not pa) and will be fewer walks in this . That seems to be reflected in their respective performance in the sim.

FFS, just put him at 1B

When you re getting you eephus you know you are succeeding.

 

[avoiding injuries]

Johnny Allen, RP 1940's

Need a ruling. This guy is a "partial season" and i wasnt sure what that was and now know we cant use them. Am I stuck with him or can I throw him back and pick another?

 

[RnR]

Johnny Allen, RP 1940's

Need a ruling. This guy is a "partial season" and i wasnt sure what that was and now know we cant use them. Am I stuck with him or can I throw him back and pick another?

Johnny Allen, RP 1940's

Need a ruling. This guy is a "partial season" and i wasnt sure what that was and now know we cant use them. Am I stuck with him or can I throw him back and pick another?

Throw him back, rook. It is in the rules though.

 

[Brady Marino]

Johnny Allen, RP 1940's

Need a ruling. This guy is a "partial season" and i wasnt sure what that was and now know we cant use them. Am I stuck with him or can I throw him back and pick another?

You're new at this, so I think a toss back wouldn't be horrible here.

Of course, Dear Leader RnR needs to rule.

 

[Koya]

Johnny Allen, RP 1940's

Need a ruling. This guy is a "partial season" and i wasnt sure what that was and now know we cant use them. Am I stuck with him or can I throw him back and pick another?

Throw and repick

 

[Eephus]

Johnny Allen, RP 1940's

Need a ruling. This guy is a "partial season" and i wasnt sure what that was and now know we cant use them. Am I stuck with him or can I throw him back and pick another?

Johnny Allen, RP 1940's

Need a ruling. This guy is a "partial season" and i wasnt sure what that was and now know we cant use them. Am I stuck with him or can I throw him back and pick another?

Throw him back, rook. It is in the rules though.

no point in Niggleing over stuff like this

 

[Koya]

Eeph's getting feisty with oncoming alzheimers.

 

[Eephus]

Eeph's getting feisty with oncoming alzheimers.

you've hurt my feelings

 

[RnR]

The draft is becoming too big for the second post. I will have to do some slick maneuvering when I have some more time to make it stretch over two posts. For now, reference the Google sheet.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Any picks going on here or is it just and As The Champ Turns?

 

[Spartans Rule]

We've always allowed partial season mulligans. Of course the key is you gotta notice right away. One of the early sims I picked a Lou Brock partial in the early rounds and didn't notice until the draft was almost over, at which point he was better than any remaining OFs but still an awful pick where I took him.

 

[Eephus]

Any picks going on here or is it just and As The Champ Turns?

Acer is halfway through his clock

AI has a repick for Johnny Allen's partial

the #### Allen crisis is reaching its climax

 

[rodg12]

Hoos x4 skips

AvoidingInjuries also avoiding make-up pick after n00b mistake

Acer - OTC to XX:38 (PMed)
SCBF
Dr. Detroit
Eephus
Franco
Greco
Avoiding Injuries
RnR
Chem X
Koya
TRE
Sparty
SNC (autoskip)
Hoos (autoskip)
Rodg
Bradymarino
Frosty
Bogart
Larryboy
Kraft
Pumpnick

 

[avoiding injuries]

Thanks. I skipped myself because I only have access on my phone which is a pain to research. (I have no more list)

Gordon Maltzberger, RP 1940s

 

[Doug B]

The draft is becoming too big for the second post. I will have to do some slick maneuvering when I have some more time to make it stretch over two posts. For now, reference the Google sheet.

I'd start chopping off rounds from the beginning in that pg 1 post. If only, say, 12 rounds fit, just post the most recent 12 rounds.

 

[rodg12]

The draft is becoming too big for the second post. I will have to do some slick maneuvering when I have some more time to make it stretch over two posts. For now, reference the Google sheet.

I'd start chopping off rounds from the beginning in that pg 1 post. If only, say, 12 rounds fit, just post the most recent 12 rounds.

Put the first say...6 rounds in post #1?

 

[SoCalBroncoFan]

I have Acer's pick.

Damn work got in the way.

Wilbert Robinson

 

[SoCalBroncoFan]

I am figuring out my pick now...

 

[SoCalBroncoFan]

**** Hall 1960's