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*** OFFICIAL Yankees 2008 Thread*** (1 Viewer)

I thought ESPN did a nice job tonight. A bunch of great interviews and I really liked how they stuck with the Stadium after the game was over so we could see what was happening.

Hard to take no postseason this year, but I did enjoy watching the game tonight. They sent the old Stadium out in style.

 
Trying to remember how many times I've been to the stadium... I guess it wasnt't THAT many since I never had season tix... Probably around 70 total. Then looking around the stadium, I think I sat in the upper deck just 2x total... Once for Game 2 1996 WS and once for an old Timers day in the 80's....Sat in the bleachers a bunch... Mostly wound up behind 1st base or right field box.

I have a feeling in the new stadium, I'll be seeing a lot more of the upper deck.

Again, Nothing will top Game 6 1996 but, I remembered another cool event:

Pink Floyd 1994!!!!!! Might have been the best concert I've been to. :rant:

 
Last night was great, we were thinking after the Damon HR that it'd be perfect, if bittersweet, if he hit the last one. Ruth hit the first in the stadium, and he started the Curse of the Bambino. Damon hit the last and he essentially ended the Curse of the Bambino. Nice bookends on the stadium history.

Then Jose Molina had to go mess it all up.

Other than that (not a big deal really) and Jeter failing to get a hit, the night went about as well as it could have. When Bob Sheppard was shown on the big screen to read an homage to the park, you could have heard someone tying their shoelaces. I've never heard Yankee Stadium so attentive to someone else speaking, and the only time I remember it ever being so quiet was the moment of silence at the 2001 World Series Game 3 for the 9/11 victims.

In all, a nice job by the team in trotting out the old-timers and representatives. We were behind the plate in the upper deck so I couldn't see how closely the actors resembled the legends faces, but from far away they had the mannerisms down fairly well!

People weren't taking as much stuff as I expected. One guy took the grate from a drain in our section -- pretty f'in gross -- and another ripped a no smoking sign off the bathroom. Aside from that, it looked like a lot of people tried to rip stuff off but failed miserably and just left it hanging there. Well, time to go develop some of the 45,000 pictures we took last night!

 
Last night was great, we were thinking after the Damon HR that it'd be perfect, if bittersweet, if he hit the last one. Ruth hit the first in the stadium, and he started the Curse of the Bambino. Damon hit the last and he essentially ended the Curse of the Bambino. Nice bookends on the stadium history.Then Jose Molina had to go mess it all up.Other than that (not a big deal really) and Jeter failing to get a hit, the night went about as well as it could have. When Bob Sheppard was shown on the big screen to read an homage to the park, you could have heard someone tying their shoelaces. I've never heard Yankee Stadium so attentive to someone else speaking, and the only time I remember it ever being so quiet was the moment of silence at the 2001 World Series Game 3 for the 9/11 victims.In all, a nice job by the team in trotting out the old-timers and representatives. We were behind the plate in the upper deck so I couldn't see how closely the actors resembled the legends faces, but from far away they had the mannerisms down fairly well!People weren't taking as much stuff as I expected. One guy took the grate from a drain in our section -- pretty f'in gross -- and another ripped a no smoking sign off the bathroom. Aside from that, it looked like a lot of people tried to rip stuff off but failed miserably and just left it hanging there. Well, time to go develop some of the 45,000 pictures we took last night!
:thumbup: MB - Did you see the front cover of the NY Post? It's a pic from the vantage point of your seats - Maybe you're in the shot?
 
Last night was great, we were thinking after the Damon HR that it'd be perfect, if bittersweet, if he hit the last one. Ruth hit the first in the stadium, and he started the Curse of the Bambino. Damon hit the last and he essentially ended the Curse of the Bambino. Nice bookends on the stadium history.

Then Jose Molina had to go mess it all up.

Other than that (not a big deal really) and Jeter failing to get a hit, the night went about as well as it could have. When Bob Sheppard was shown on the big screen to read an homage to the park, you could have heard someone tying their shoelaces. I've never heard Yankee Stadium so attentive to someone else speaking, and the only time I remember it ever being so quiet was the moment of silence at the 2001 World Series Game 3 for the 9/11 victims.

In all, a nice job by the team in trotting out the old-timers and representatives. We were behind the plate in the upper deck so I couldn't see how closely the actors resembled the legends faces, but from far away they had the mannerisms down fairly well!

People weren't taking as much stuff as I expected. One guy took the grate from a drain in our section -- pretty f'in gross -- and another ripped a no smoking sign off the bathroom. Aside from that, it looked like a lot of people tried to rip stuff off but failed miserably and just left it hanging there. Well, time to go develop some of the 45,000 pictures we took last night!
:lmao:

MB - Did you see the front cover of the NY Post? It's a pic from the vantage point of your seats - Maybe you're in the shot?
Nah, my seats are were off to the right. Sections 1 and 2 are directly behind the plate, and mine are were in Section 3, Row S, Seats 12-15...mine forever!
 
It may have been mentioned here, but how the hell does Torre NOT get mentioned at the Stadium's closing game?

That is in horrific bad taste. Karma is not going the yanks way under the new mini steinbrenners if this keeps up.

That said, its nice to hear how upside Clemens was that he is persona non grata - thats what uber dooshes get, buddy.

 
DA RAIDERS said:
:crickets:

on a side note, arod will be showing up tomorrow with a good attitude & be ready to go, 100%!!
Well, Hughes looked good...

And the other New York team is entertaining.

 
DA RAIDERS said:
:crickets:on a side note, arod will be showing up tomorrow with a good attitude & be ready to go, 100%!!
As we walked through the turnstile for the final home game, the usher taking the tickets made a big announcement to everyone there:"Get to your seats early, hurry up. Now that the season's over, A-Rod's hitting home runs again!" :lmao:
 
Michael Brown said:
DA RAIDERS said:
:crickets:on a side note, arod will be showing up tomorrow with a good attitude & be ready to go, 100%!!
As we walked through the turnstile for the final home game, the usher taking the tickets made a big announcement to everyone there:"Get to your seats early, hurry up. Now that the season's over, A-Rod's hitting home runs again!" :thumbup:
awesome. too funny!
 
Michael Brown said:
DA RAIDERS said:
:crickets:on a side note, arod will be showing up tomorrow with a good attitude & be ready to go, 100%!!
As we walked through the turnstile for the final home game, the usher taking the tickets made a big announcement to everyone there:"Get to your seats early, hurry up. Now that the season's over, A-Rod's hitting home runs again!" :shock:
awesome. too funny!
This guy looked to be about 100 years old, friendly as heck as he was welcoming everyone in.If A-Rod is on THIS guy's bad side, then he clearly hasn't got a friend in the entire place.
 
I watched Hughes pitch yesterday and he was just ridiculous. :excited: The ball was exploding out of his hand and he didn't even look like he was trying. Him & Pettite threw BP after and he was almost unhittable. I was awestruck. He'll be better than Santana THIS year. :thumbup:
Wow
 
Reaper said:
=Smackdown= said:
I watched Hughes pitch yesterday and he was just ridiculous. :ptts: The ball was exploding out of his hand and he didn't even look like he was trying. Him & Pettite threw BP after and he was almost unhittable. I was awestruck. He'll be better than Santana THIS year. :coffee:
Wow
:lmao:
That's why he's the Dreamer...But, injuries happen - I think Hughes will develop into a pretty good pitcher.
I think he'll be a whole lot better than "pretty good", at least that's what I'll keep telling myself every time Johan wins another game.Hey in fairness, the Yanks knew this wouldn't be a trade that would be smart to pass on in season 1. I'm in agreement that it needs to be given several years before we accurately decide if they made the right move in passing.Signing CC would go a long way towards that since he's essentially the same as Johan. They'll cost the same, but this way they'll have the ace without having to give up the kids too, and I for one am willing to have a lost year in 2008 for the chance at a dynamite rotation from 2009-2014.
 
Don't know if this article by Buster Olney has been posted here:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/stor...&id=3589629

The chart at the bottom is a riduclous and painful way to tell the story.

Yankees' fall from grace stems from years of draft neglect

By Buster Olney

ESPN The Magazine

George Steinbrenner lorded over the staff meetings he attended, and as the Yankees prepared for the amateur draft in the spring of 2000, Steinbrenner noted aloud that Jorge Posada was moving closer to free agency.

"We need a catcher," Steinbrenner said. When it came time for the Yankees to make their first round pick, 28th overall, they called out the name of a catcher. He was David Parrish, the son of Lance Parrish and a University of Michigan product, with the kind of pedigree that Steinbrenner liked and recognized.

Parrish also was regarded by executives and scouts with other teams as a fifth-round talent.

"No better than that," said one AL general manager.

Eight years later, Parrish has yet to play in the big leagues, like the vast majority of the Yankees' picks from 1997 to 2005 -- a period in which the Yankees' drafting and developing has been clearly the worst of any team in the major leagues. The Yankees failed to make the playoffs this season, in large part because the team is paying for its inability to generate young talent, as the Boston Red Sox, Minnesota Twins, Cleveland Indians, Tampa Bay Rays and others have been able to do.

Instead, at the end of the 1996-2001 dynasty, which was built largely on homegrown talent such as Derek Jeter, Andy Pettitte, Mariano Rivera and Posada, the Yankees began a period of free spending on veteran free agents, a habit that often exacerbated their player development problem and increased their reliance on older players.

The Yankees began shifting their draft philosophy after general manager Brian Cashman began overseeing the player development system after the 2005 season, but they still have a lot of catching up to do.

"They're probably two or three or four years behind the Rays and Red Sox and Toronto," an American League general manager said recently.

The Yankees chose University of Maryland left-hander Eric Milton with their first pick in the 1996 draft, but in the nine drafts that followed, the Yankees' draft and development rate can be assessed as nothing short of abysmal. Consider that in the drafts of 1997-2005:

* The Yankees produced a total of 10 position players who have appeared in a major league game; that is the fewest of any team in the major leagues, according to the Elias Sports Bureau.

* The 10 position players drafted by the Yankees had accounted for a total of 888 career at-bats as of Sept. 9, which means that not only have the Yankees generated few major league position players, but they have produced no stars, and just a handful of journeymen. The draftees of the Toronto Blue Jays from the same time frame, by comparison, have combined for 27,427 big-league at-bats; the Mets, 11,469.

* The Yankees drafted and developed 20 pitchers, which is tied for the 12th-most among the 30 major league teams. However, those 20 pitchers selected by the Yankees have amassed 1,852 2/3 innings in the majors -- the fewest innings for any group of pitchers drafted by any team. The Oakland Athletics' draftees rank first, at 9,686 innings, according to Elias.

The Yankees' thirst for yearly success at the big league level has hurt the team's efforts to regenerate the organization's player development, of course. The unofficial Steinbrenner Doctrine deemed that anything less than a World Series championship has been regarded as a failure. In the moments after the Yankees lost Game 7 of the 2001 World Series to the Arizona Diamondbacks, Steinbrenner said aloud in the team's clubhouse, "There are going to be changes."

Not feeling a draftFrom 1997 to 2005, the Yankees drafted and developed just 10 position players. In the table below, players are sorted by major league at-bats (through Sept. 9).Player Draft year Draft round ABsAndy Phillips 1998 3 544Shelley Duncan 2001 2 131Brett Gardner 2005 3 77Kevin Thompson 1999 31 65John-Ford Griffin 2001 1 23Mike Vento 1997 40 20Andy Cannizaro 2001 7 9Drew Henson 1998 3 9Bronson Sardinha 2001 1 9Omir Santos 2001 21 1And he was right. The Yankees, who already had become a middle-aged team during the dynasty, began relying almost solely on free-agent spending to augment the team, to paper over weaknesses, and the Yankees sacrificed draft picks along the way. From the fall of 2001 through 2005, the Yankees sacrificed nine high draft picks to sign free agents Jason Giambi, Steve Karsay, Rondell White, Tom Gordon, Paul Quantrill, Jaret Wright, Carl Pavano, Kyle Farnsworth and Johnny Damon. In addition, the Yankees' consistent high finishes in the standings -- propped up by the free-agent signings -- naturally hurt their draft position."The bottom line is that there is a lot of value, in the big picture, to have a down year now and then," said a rival GM, "because that's the only way you're going to have a real shot at the elite talent in the draft. You can't say that out loud to your fans, but that's the truth. You might have someone fall through the cracks to you every once in awhile, but the best draft talent is, generally speaking, going to be at the top of the draft."

The Yankees have changed their draft philosophy in recent seasons, selecting the best player on their board, rather than trying to address a specific position, like catcher. They still lack depth among their position-player prospects, but they have done well in landing highly regarded pitching talent, like Joba Chamberlain.

But the Yankees are at a crossroads again. In the aftermath of the frustrating 2008 season, the Yankees have the option of diving back into the free-agent market again and addressing needs immediately. They will likely pursue CC Sabathia, and if they fail to sign him, Hank Steinbrenner already has mentioned the name of A.J. Burnett as a possible offseason target. They could also go after first baseman Mark Teixeira.

If they take that approach, of course, there will, again, be a high-end cost. They probably will lose their first-round draft pick, and their second-round draft pick, and further ###### their player development system that was, in the early '90s, the best in the major leagues. A dynasty was born from that, and from that dynasty came the YES Network, support for a new Yankee Stadium -- and an insatiable quest for success that, in the way it was managed, effectively cannibalized the organization.

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MLB drafts, 1997-2005 (stats through Sept. 9)POSITION PLAYERS							  PITCHERSTeam			  # of players 	At-bats	Team 	# of players	Innings pitchedRockies					 24 	24,186 	White Sox 		30 	7,637Diamondbacks				23 	19,272 	Giants			29 	5,937.1Athletics 				  22 	16,434 	Athletics 		28 	9,686Rays 					   21 	19,987 	Braves 		   28 	3,513Angels 					 20 	11,873 	Cubs 			 25 	6,460Tigers 					 20 	10,154 	Royals 		   24 	4,173.2Cardinals 				  19 	25,096 	Cardinals 		24 	2,124.2Rangers 					19 	19,330 	Nationals 		23 	3,200.2Astros 					 19 	14,600 	Blue Jays 		22 	4,287.2Royals 					 19 	10,560 	Padres 		   22 	3,471.1Cubs 					   19 	10,214 	Pirates 		  21 	4,904Giants 					 19 	4,455 	 Diamondbacks	  21 	4,439.1Pirates 					18 	7,533 	 Rockies 		  20 	4,003Blue Jays 				  17 	27,427 	Red Sox 		  20 	3,849.2Nationals 				  16 	13,410 	Twins 			20 	3,009Mets 					   16 	11,469 	Yankees 		  20 	1,852.2Padres 					 16 	9,419 	 Phillies 		 19 	5,152.2Dodgers 					16 	8,610 	 Rays 			 19 	4,744.2Red Sox 					15 	16,296 	Orioles 		  19 	2,968Braves 					 15 	11,183 	Mets 			 18 	2,892Reds 					   15 	10,886 	Rangers 		  18 	2,850.2Brewers 					15 	10,219 	Angels 		   17 	3,815White Sox 				  15 	8,335 	 Brewers 		  17 	2,575.1Marlins 					15 	6,845 	 Marlins 		  16 	3,810.2Orioles 					14 	13,502 	Astros 		   16 	3,000.1Phillies 				   13 	17,970 	Tigers 		   15 	3,609.1Twins 					  13 	10,776 	Mariners 		 15 	2,375Mariners 				   13 	3,268 	 Indians 		  14 	4,049.1Indians 					11 	7,009 	 Reds 			 14 	1,906.1Yankees 					10 	886 	   Dodgers 		  14 	1,867.1
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Good article...

In the mid eighties a buddy of mine printed and sold "TOSS THE BOSS" shirts _ while I agreed, I didn't love the business side of the venture plus the security at the Stadium hated them.

So, for a few years Steinbrenner was banished and the Yankee farm system developed...

And now we're back to where we were.... Hopefully Cashman stays on and does a good job of mixing both.......

Looking at the big picture, you can see why the Yankees rolled the dice with Hughes / Kennedy and waited til this year to get their ace pitcher but, damn, the one time they should have gone for it, it really blew up in their face with Melky, Cano, Hughes and Kennedy all dissapointing to say the least...

 
Good article...In the mid eighties a buddy of mine printed and sold "TOSS THE BOSS" shirts _ while I agreed, I didn't love the business side of the venture plus the security at the Stadium hated them.So, for a few years Steinbrenner was banished and the Yankee farm system developed...And now we're back to where we were.... Hopefully Cashman stays on and does a good job of mixing both.......Looking at the big picture, you can see why the Yankees rolled the dice with Hughes / Kennedy and waited til this year to get their ace pitcher but, damn, the one time they should have gone for it, it really blew up in their face with Melky, Cano, Hughes and Kennedy all dissapointing to say the least...
I like Cashman and have always commented that the problem in evaluating him as a GM is that you never know what moves are his, some of the moves in the past five years have been head spinning:PavanoJaret WrightKei IgawaKevin BrownTony Womacknot getting another catcher to replace John Flahertyand a number of guys the Yankees passed on in the meantime that could have helped the team
 
Sing it with me . . . .Memories,Like the corners of my mindMisty water-colored memoriesOf the way we wereScattered pictures,Of the smiles we left behindSmiles we gave to one anotherFor the way we wereCan it be that it was all so simple then? Or has time re-written every line? If we had the chance to do it all againTell me, would we? could we? Memories, may be beautiful and yetWhat's too painful to rememberWe simply choose to forgetSo its the laughterWe will rememberWhenever we remember...The way we were...The way we were...
I don't know.... The Ceremonies at Yankee stadium seemed a bit more festive than at Shea. :rant:I wonder how many people stayed - NO WAY would I have stayed. NO FREAKING WAY!!!!!!I also wonder how many Mets fans wish they could take it back and feel like acting like Tools helped bring horrible Karma upon their team (again)? I'm thinking mostly of that Cartman guy on Wfan, yeah, and ::Smackclown:: :moneybag:
 
Its pretty much all karma for the Mets. The baseball gods tend to punish those that show up their opponents in June by doing the Samba after every run they score.

 
Sing it with me . . . .Memories,Like the corners of my mindMisty water-colored memoriesOf the way we wereScattered pictures,Of the smiles we left behindSmiles we gave to one anotherFor the way we wereCan it be that it was all so simple then? Or has time re-written every line? If we had the chance to do it all againTell me, would we? could we? Memories, may be beautiful and yetWhat's too painful to rememberWe simply choose to forgetSo its the laughterWe will rememberWhenever we remember...The way we were...The way we were...
:wolf: Any songs about having your heart ripped out of your chest 2 years in a row on the last day of the season?
 
Its pretty much all karma for the Mets. The baseball gods tend to punish those that show up their opponents in June by doing the Samba after every run they score.
After ALL THAT, the Yankees and Mets finish with the same record... Yet, the Mets play in the Minor leagues and have the best pitcher in the game.... Talk about AMAZING!!!!If I'm a Mets fan today, I call in sick. If I'm a Mets fan today All I can do is walk aroun in a stupor.

To me the past two years is worse that the Yankees blowing it to the Sox in 04. At least the Yankees Tasted the Flesh. It sucked but, after all those Bronx celebrations it wasn't that bad, it was actually inevitable.... But, the complete torture the Mets have put their fans through the past 2 season, NOT EVEN IN THE PLAYOFFS is just an incredible riot. Especially how their fans love to play the Tool.

Where's ::Smackclown::

He should have to sweep up around here for the next year and help me paint my living room plus buy me an Islanders ticket, and not a cheap seat.

 
Sing it with me . . . .Memories,Like the corners of my mindMisty water-colored memoriesOf the way we wereScattered pictures,Of the smiles we left behindSmiles we gave to one anotherFor the way we wereCan it be that it was all so simple then? Or has time re-written every line? If we had the chance to do it all againTell me, would we? could we? Memories, may be beautiful and yetWhat's too painful to rememberWe simply choose to forgetSo its the laughterWe will rememberWhenever we remember...The way we were...The way we were...
:lmao: Any songs about having your heart ripped out of your chest 2 years in a row on the last day of the season?
Funeral For a Friend? :shrug:
 
Its pretty much all karma for the Mets. The baseball gods tend to punish those that show up their opponents in June by doing the Samba after every run they score.
After ALL THAT, the Yankees and Mets finish with the same record... Yet, the Mets play in the Minor leagues and have the best pitcher in the game.... Talk about AMAZING!!!!If I'm a Mets fan today, I call in sick. If I'm a Mets fan today All I can do is walk aroun in a stupor.

To me the past two years is worse that the Yankees blowing it to the Sox in 04. At least the Yankees Tasted the Flesh. It sucked but, after all those Bronx celebrations it wasn't that bad, it was actually inevitable.... But, the complete torture the Mets have put their fans through the past 2 season, NOT EVEN IN THE PLAYOFFS is just an incredible riot. Especially how their fans love to play the Tool.

Where's ::Smackclown::

He should have to sweep up around here for the next year and help me paint my living room plus buy me an Islanders ticket, and not a cheap seat.
You dont see me bumping anyone else's posts but this Smackdown ##### deserves every bump. The fact that both teams finished with the same record & out of the playoffs but the Mets did it in epic fashion again AFTER they traded their entire farm system for Johan is hilarious. I have no hatred towards Mets fans and normally I wouldnt have cared if they won yesterday but between Smackdown and this other guy here at work, payback is a ##### today.
 
Its pretty much all karma for the Mets. The baseball gods tend to punish those that show up their opponents in June by doing the Samba after every run they score.
After ALL THAT, the Yankees and Mets finish with the same record... Yet, the Mets play in the Minor leagues and have the best pitcher in the game.... Talk about AMAZING!!!!If I'm a Mets fan today, I call in sick. If I'm a Mets fan today All I can do is walk aroun in a stupor.

To me the past two years is worse that the Yankees blowing it to the Sox in 04. At least the Yankees Tasted the Flesh. It sucked but, after all those Bronx celebrations it wasn't that bad, it was actually inevitable.... But, the complete torture the Mets have put their fans through the past 2 season, NOT EVEN IN THE PLAYOFFS is just an incredible riot. Especially how their fans love to play the Tool.

Where's ::Smackclown::

He should have to sweep up around here for the next year and help me paint my living room plus buy me an Islanders ticket, and not a cheap seat.
You dont see me bumping anyone else's posts but this Smackdown ##### deserves every bump. The fact that both teams finished with the same record & out of the playoffs but the Mets did it in epic fashion again AFTER they traded their entire farm system for Johan is hilarious. I have no hatred towards Mets fans and normally I wouldnt have cared if they won yesterday but between Smackdown and this other guy here at work, payback is a ##### today.
:shrug: In retrospect, I don't think we laughed hard enough LAST YEAR.....

Last year Newsday put a picture of a Crying Mets fan on the front page and he happened to be from the town I work in. It was posted all over....

I wonder if they do that again this year, they could make it an annual thing. They could use the same kid. Orrrrrrr choose from any of the 10,000 people at the "ceremony" thingee.. :lmao:

 
Karma cuts both ways guys

Don't see how all this post bumping changes the fact that we couldn't even crack 90 wins with a $200+ million payroll

Sinking to the childish levels of Yankee haters isn't going to change anything

:shrug:

Just my two cents

 
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Karma cuts both ways guysDon't see how all this post bumping changes the fact that we couldn't even crack 90 wins with a $200+ million payrollSinking to the childish levels of Yankee haters isn't going to change anything:wolf:Just my two cents
Hey, it's 1 day, and this guy laid it on pretty thick.......I actually believe ::Smacklown:: Wouldn't want it any other way.... You'll see, it's all part of his shtik.And watch me get an Islander ticket out of this.
 
Karma cuts both ways guysDon't see how all this post bumping changes the fact that we couldn't even crack 90 wins with a $200+ million payrollSinking to the childish levels of Yankee haters isn't going to change anything:thumbdown:Just my two cents
:wolf: Tired of your diplomatic ways. JK honestly I agree with you and normally I dont talk smack to Mets fans but this Smackdown guy did it all year and I just find it hilarious that his team is out of it too.
 
Hey dudes.

Glad your having fun at my expense. Bring it on - I can take it. It is NO different from the daily life of being a Mets fan here in NY. Not a day goes by - either at work, with friends, or at home with the family where there is some good natured trash talk between Yankee fans and Mets fans.

And keep telling yourself that losing to Boston in the playoffs after being up 3-0 wasn't as bad as this current Mets mess. Keep repeating it if it makes you feel better :goodposting:

Sweep up around here?

Buy you a Islander ticket?

Paint your living room?

Put the crack pipe down.

 
Hey dudes. Glad your having fun at my expense. Bring it on - I can take it. It is NO different from the daily life of being a Mets fan here in NY. Not a day goes by - either at work, with friends, or at home with the family where there is some good natured trash talk between Yankee fans and Mets fans. And keep telling yourself that losing to Boston in the playoffs after being up 3-0 wasn't as bad as this current Mets mess. Keep repeating it if it makes you feel better :wall: Sweep up around here?Buy you a Islander ticket?Paint your living room?Put the crack pipe down.
:mellow:
 

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