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***Official Yankees vs. Tigers ALDS Thread *** (1 Viewer)
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Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll
Footballguy
God that makes me happy. 
Eviloutsider
Footballguy
I'm conflicted. As a lifelong long Brewer fan and never seeing them in the playoffs I love the fact that an underdog can do this well. It gives me some hope for the future. On the other hand I HATE the fact that almost every team has celebrated at some point like that in the last 10 years and all I do is hope that the Brewers finish .500.
ffweasel
Weasel Power
Just like being a Detroit Lions fan. :(
JZilla
Footballguy
The NL Central is nuts, but this year's Reds, if anyone, should give you a little hope.
Pat Patriot
Footballguy
Go back to 2001 and the Pats were a 14 pt underdog in the SB with a 6th round pick QB. There is a great shot of Brady after the game holding Bledsoe and saying "Can you believe we won!!" with the expression of a 7 year old on his face.
boubucarow
Footballguy
Exactly what I am talking about, but by year three, it wasn't the same. The spraying champagne on the fans will be a classic moment.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
His mannerism has more to do with having way too may more games to play. beating the Yanks is great, but you still have to play Oakland on Tuesday. The team will follow Jimmy attitude, hopefully all the way.I'm thinking Verlander-Rogers in Oak, with bonderman in game 3 back in the D. I think Nate gets skipped. until game 4.
Pat Patriot
Footballguy
Exactly. The Tigers are awesome. What a great looking team. The fallout in NY is going to be UNBELIEVABLE. I cant wait to here Francessa on Monday.....
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
Congrats Detroit fans...
Keerock
Footballguy
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
found this quote on yahoo.
"You kind of get tired of giving the other team credit," slumping third baseman Alex Rodriguez said. "At some point you've got to look in the mirror and say, 'I sucked."'
"You kind of get tired of giving the other team credit," slumping third baseman Alex Rodriguez said. "At some point you've got to look in the mirror and say, 'I sucked."'
Bob Henry
Footballguy
Bless you boys. I've had to drink mercilessly today, just to contain my enthusiam. 3 down, 8 to go.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
He should have just spouted the truth: The better team won.
cobalt_27
Footballguy
Hooray TiVo!Exactly. The Tigers are awesome. What a great looking team. The fallout in NY is going to be UNBELIEVABLE. I cant wait to here Francessa on Monday.....
Oh how quickly they turn on their leader.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
The Tigers were the better team this series. Congrats, Tigers fans.
Sundays Rule
Footballguy
Sigh...time to pin all my championship hopes on the Knicks.
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
It was a joke. Seriously can you read?
Yep but most Yankee "fans" seem to say the same thing after everytime they lose in the postseason. Get's old real quick.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Actually, since the Yankees only won two more games in the regular season than the Tigers, and Detroit played in a more difficult division, I think it goes without saying at this point that the Tigers are the better team, not just in this series.
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
I agree. Which makes my joke particularly funny.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Over the course of the regular season, I think the Yankees were the better team. The team's schedules were nearly identical in terms of opponent's strength. (Don't forget, the Tigers IL schedule was a joke, with Milwaukee, Chicago, Pittsburgh, Houston, etc. They went 15-3 in IL play). Without factoring injuries, the Yankees regular season team still looked better than the Tigers team. If you want to include injuries, that makes the Yanks look a bit stronger. Additionally, BP projected the Yankees to win based on their superior regular season.But I don't really feel like debating this now; hats off to the Tigers, who won the series.
Dickie Dunn
Footballguy
Interesting fact:
Only two previous teams entered the postseason on a losing streak of at least five games ...
1987 Twins
2000 Yankees
Both teams went on to win the World Series.
Only two previous teams entered the postseason on a losing streak of at least five games ...
1987 Twins
2000 Yankees
Both teams went on to win the World Series.
Michael Brown
Footballguy
Just got back from work a little while ago, where I had to watch that game surrounded by mostly Mets fans. I'm not going to say anything about A-Rod here, because I pretty much covered my feelings on him these past 2+ years or so. Y'all know how I feel.
Anyway, I'm pretty stunned. Not that they lost, because I know anyone can beat anyone. But I'm stunned at the ease with which Detroit disposed of NY, as I'm sure even the most ardent Tiger fan is.
Congrats Tiger fans, you guys have a real team. The Yankees would kick your ### in fantasy baseball, which is of little use in October -- a fact lost on NY as they find a way to get Gary Sheffield's bat into the lineup after two weeks at 1B.
Yankees aren't a team, they're a collection. I keep hearing about how they need pitching. Well sure, but so does everyone. What they need is to formulate a good baseball lineup. Having a #7 or 8 hitter that hits .300 with 25 HR and 90 RBI is counterproductive to manufacturing runs, and even my mom knows that.
This year, Torre went out of his way to get a perennial choke artist (Sheffield) into the lineup when they really needed a solid contact guy who could move runners up, bunt, and go first to third (while playing an excellent LF) in Melky. On that note, it pains me to say it, but perhaps the decision to let Torre go is the right one. He cost them tremendously in the '03 WS with the Jeff Weaver decision, and cost them even more in 2004 by putting Tom Gordon out to start the 8th inning of Game 5. I love Torre personality-wise, but he's been getting out-managed a ton in recent years and the time may be right for a change. Having said that, if he wants to come back, I'd love if he does. It's sort of a Catch-22. I want him back even though he isn't what's best for the team, because of the attachment we grew for him since '96.
Speaking of which, every year that passes since 2000 that they come up short, it serves as another reminder of just how great those championship teams were. Every time I watch the so-called "best" players in the game fail so terrifically, I just gain a greater appreciation for how much those title teams did and just how amazing it was to do it so often like that.
Anyway, good luck Tigers fans -- I'd love to see what your players will do if you guys actually win it ALL!
Anyway, I'm pretty stunned. Not that they lost, because I know anyone can beat anyone. But I'm stunned at the ease with which Detroit disposed of NY, as I'm sure even the most ardent Tiger fan is.
Congrats Tiger fans, you guys have a real team. The Yankees would kick your ### in fantasy baseball, which is of little use in October -- a fact lost on NY as they find a way to get Gary Sheffield's bat into the lineup after two weeks at 1B.
Yankees aren't a team, they're a collection. I keep hearing about how they need pitching. Well sure, but so does everyone. What they need is to formulate a good baseball lineup. Having a #7 or 8 hitter that hits .300 with 25 HR and 90 RBI is counterproductive to manufacturing runs, and even my mom knows that.
This year, Torre went out of his way to get a perennial choke artist (Sheffield) into the lineup when they really needed a solid contact guy who could move runners up, bunt, and go first to third (while playing an excellent LF) in Melky. On that note, it pains me to say it, but perhaps the decision to let Torre go is the right one. He cost them tremendously in the '03 WS with the Jeff Weaver decision, and cost them even more in 2004 by putting Tom Gordon out to start the 8th inning of Game 5. I love Torre personality-wise, but he's been getting out-managed a ton in recent years and the time may be right for a change. Having said that, if he wants to come back, I'd love if he does. It's sort of a Catch-22. I want him back even though he isn't what's best for the team, because of the attachment we grew for him since '96.
Speaking of which, every year that passes since 2000 that they come up short, it serves as another reminder of just how great those championship teams were. Every time I watch the so-called "best" players in the game fail so terrifically, I just gain a greater appreciation for how much those title teams did and just how amazing it was to do it so often like that.
Anyway, good luck Tigers fans -- I'd love to see what your players will do if you guys actually win it ALL!
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Michael Brown
Footballguy
It's become a morbid tradition that every year after the Yanks get eliminated from the postseason, I send this text e-mail out to the Yankee fans I know. It's from Chuck Knoblauch right after the Yanks were eliminated by Arizona in 2001. Pretty much sums up the glaring difference between those winning teams and the current one. Can you even imagine anyone from this team thinking and saying such things about their teammates on THIS club? 
By CHUCK KNOBLAUCH
Visitors clubhouse
Bank One Ballpark
Phoenix, Arizona
Nov. 4, 10:10 p.m.
This wasn't the way it was supposed to end, but we
were right where we wanted to be. We had Mariano
Rivera on the mound with a one-run lead. You can take
it as far back as you want. If we were in spring
training and you told me we'd have Mariano Rivera on
the mound with a one-run lead and three outs to go in
World Series Game 7, you'd have to like our chances.
You take that to the bank every time. In fact, I'd
take it again tomorrow.
All I've known as a Yankee until tonight is winning
championships. Scott Brosius and I came to the Yankees
in 1998 and tonight we were just a couple outs away
from being 4-for-4. Four years, four championships. We
probably won't appreciate what we've accomplished
until some time goes by and we look back on it and see
how special that these four years have been and think
about how really difficult it is to get to the World
Series. It's amazing, really, that we could just get
to the World Series four years in a row let alone
winning three of them. It's great. We all hope it can
continue.
I hope my Yankee career doesn't end this way but
there's a pretty good chance that it will. I gave it
some thought about 20 minutes ago while I took off my
uniform. It's disappointing. Sad times, I guess, but
at the same time we'll walk out of here with our heads
high because we've got nothing to be ashamed about and
we almost pulled it off.
Think about it from Paul O'Neill's perspective. He had
a great game and he was just a few outs away from
going out with four championships in a row and six
rings. There's a lot of guys that never even get to
the playoffs. There are stories every year about guys
who have great careers but just never make it to this
level. Ernie Banks and so many other great players
play all of those years and never get to taste what
this is like. Then there are a thousand other guys,
too, who weren't great players like Banks who never
got here.
I won a World Series my rookie year in 1991. It was a
miracle season but I thought it was going to be like
that every year. We just missed the next year then
1993, '94, '95, '96 and '97 in Minnesota were very
tough, a lot tougher because I had tasted a
championship my first year and you always want that
again. You want that opportunity.
I welcomed coming to New York. Setting aside all of
the statistics, personal troubles, ups and downs, I
wouldn't trade places with anyone right now, even
standing in this clubhouse where we just got beat in
the World Series. It's about winning. I came to New
York hoping to be on a winner and I got every bit of
that and more. You can't ask for anything else, except
maybe to get one more shot. If not, I'll close this
great chapter in my career with all of these guys and
move on. Hopefully, though, I'll get another chance.
There's nothing like winning with this group of
players. If we'd have won tonight, we would have
celebrated like it was our first World Series. That
speaks to the hunger and the desire the players in
this clubhouse had to get here. Winning never gets old
or stale here. Wherever any of these guys go next
year, including myself, we're all going to have the
same desire to get back here again. Everyone in this
clubhouse will work to get back here for the rest of
our careers.
I'll wake up some day down the line and realize, oh
man, I miss these guys. What a special thing we've had
together. One common goal bringing all of us together.
It's a very unselfish group of players. Look around,
Jete, he's had a storybook career up until now and
he's got a long way to go. I've had the opportunity to
play alongside him three years as a second baseman and
four years as a teammate, if it ends today. I'll
appreciate that even more as time goes by. Tino, great
first baseman, but, more importantly, great guy.
Everybody knows about the baseball stuff, but hardly
anybody knows about the day in, day out togetherness
of this team. We've become a family. Everybody always
got along. There were no egos getting in the way.
Everybody got along and everybody had a relationship
with everybody else on this club. That's a very
special thing. How do you ever recreate something like
that? That spilled out onto the field. From Joe Torre
and the coaches down to the last person, everybody got
along. You don't come across that very often.
New York is a special place, the baseball capital of
the world. The fans are great. They know the game.
They're going to get on you when you're not doing your
job. But they also get behind you. I've experienced
both sides of it. There aren't any other fans in
baseball like the people in New York. The Yankees are
a great, great organization. The pinstripes. The
tradition. Yankee Stadium is really a special place.
You can't top these four years, winning these
championships. You would be foolish to think this can
happen again but you go to spring training, whether
it's with the Yankees or somebody else, and you try to
have that drive to get back to the World Series. We
proved that the hunger is there every year and we keep
going out every year and try to do it again.
Even if I'm not with the Yankees, I'll take a little
piece of this team, a little piece of all of these
players, wherever I go. I've learned something from
everyone in this clubhouse, on and off the field.
By CHUCK KNOBLAUCH
Visitors clubhouse
Bank One Ballpark
Phoenix, Arizona
Nov. 4, 10:10 p.m.
This wasn't the way it was supposed to end, but we
were right where we wanted to be. We had Mariano
Rivera on the mound with a one-run lead. You can take
it as far back as you want. If we were in spring
training and you told me we'd have Mariano Rivera on
the mound with a one-run lead and three outs to go in
World Series Game 7, you'd have to like our chances.
You take that to the bank every time. In fact, I'd
take it again tomorrow.
All I've known as a Yankee until tonight is winning
championships. Scott Brosius and I came to the Yankees
in 1998 and tonight we were just a couple outs away
from being 4-for-4. Four years, four championships. We
probably won't appreciate what we've accomplished
until some time goes by and we look back on it and see
how special that these four years have been and think
about how really difficult it is to get to the World
Series. It's amazing, really, that we could just get
to the World Series four years in a row let alone
winning three of them. It's great. We all hope it can
continue.
I hope my Yankee career doesn't end this way but
there's a pretty good chance that it will. I gave it
some thought about 20 minutes ago while I took off my
uniform. It's disappointing. Sad times, I guess, but
at the same time we'll walk out of here with our heads
high because we've got nothing to be ashamed about and
we almost pulled it off.
Think about it from Paul O'Neill's perspective. He had
a great game and he was just a few outs away from
going out with four championships in a row and six
rings. There's a lot of guys that never even get to
the playoffs. There are stories every year about guys
who have great careers but just never make it to this
level. Ernie Banks and so many other great players
play all of those years and never get to taste what
this is like. Then there are a thousand other guys,
too, who weren't great players like Banks who never
got here.
I won a World Series my rookie year in 1991. It was a
miracle season but I thought it was going to be like
that every year. We just missed the next year then
1993, '94, '95, '96 and '97 in Minnesota were very
tough, a lot tougher because I had tasted a
championship my first year and you always want that
again. You want that opportunity.
I welcomed coming to New York. Setting aside all of
the statistics, personal troubles, ups and downs, I
wouldn't trade places with anyone right now, even
standing in this clubhouse where we just got beat in
the World Series. It's about winning. I came to New
York hoping to be on a winner and I got every bit of
that and more. You can't ask for anything else, except
maybe to get one more shot. If not, I'll close this
great chapter in my career with all of these guys and
move on. Hopefully, though, I'll get another chance.
There's nothing like winning with this group of
players. If we'd have won tonight, we would have
celebrated like it was our first World Series. That
speaks to the hunger and the desire the players in
this clubhouse had to get here. Winning never gets old
or stale here. Wherever any of these guys go next
year, including myself, we're all going to have the
same desire to get back here again. Everyone in this
clubhouse will work to get back here for the rest of
our careers.
I'll wake up some day down the line and realize, oh
man, I miss these guys. What a special thing we've had
together. One common goal bringing all of us together.
It's a very unselfish group of players. Look around,
Jete, he's had a storybook career up until now and
he's got a long way to go. I've had the opportunity to
play alongside him three years as a second baseman and
four years as a teammate, if it ends today. I'll
appreciate that even more as time goes by. Tino, great
first baseman, but, more importantly, great guy.
Everybody knows about the baseball stuff, but hardly
anybody knows about the day in, day out togetherness
of this team. We've become a family. Everybody always
got along. There were no egos getting in the way.
Everybody got along and everybody had a relationship
with everybody else on this club. That's a very
special thing. How do you ever recreate something like
that? That spilled out onto the field. From Joe Torre
and the coaches down to the last person, everybody got
along. You don't come across that very often.
New York is a special place, the baseball capital of
the world. The fans are great. They know the game.
They're going to get on you when you're not doing your
job. But they also get behind you. I've experienced
both sides of it. There aren't any other fans in
baseball like the people in New York. The Yankees are
a great, great organization. The pinstripes. The
tradition. Yankee Stadium is really a special place.
You can't top these four years, winning these
championships. You would be foolish to think this can
happen again but you go to spring training, whether
it's with the Yankees or somebody else, and you try to
have that drive to get back to the World Series. We
proved that the hunger is there every year and we keep
going out every year and try to do it again.
Even if I'm not with the Yankees, I'll take a little
piece of this team, a little piece of all of these
players, wherever I go. I've learned something from
everyone in this clubhouse, on and off the field.
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
Having a #7 hitter that can do .300/25/90 is never a bad thing. A guy who can hit for average and power will help you anywhere in the lineup. The Yankees lost 6-0 and 8-3 the last two games. This isn't 1968. You don't win games by manufacturing runs anymore. Were they gonna squeeze out 5 or 6? In all but the late innings of a close game, the sacrifice/running game is a way to take yourself out of a big inning chasing one run. The Tigers weren't squeezing out runs, they were scoring them in bunches.I'm a big believer in the Earl Weaver philosophy. Starting pitching, starting pitching and more starting pitching, strong defense up the middle, big bats on the corners, hold your opponent to a couple runs and then crush them with a longball. That's pretty much what the 2005 White Sox were and it's what the 2006 Tigers are.
Michael Brown
Footballguy
I disagree. Having a #7 hitter that puts up power numbers doesn't allow you to play for one or two runs. Yes, the Yanks lost these games by more than 5 runs each game. But if you manufacture a couple runs early, maybe their bats start pressing intsead of ours. In the playoffs, scoring first is HUGE.I can't get on board that teams only manufacture runs in 1968. The Red Sox ended the curse by doing the following: Leadoff walk, stolen base, seeing-eye single. Yes, they did a bunch of other things in that series as well but that one sequence of events saved them from being swept out by a very flawed Yankee team.If you can get up 2-0, you won't need to squeeze out 5 or 6. Putting a couple on the board early takes the pressure off the lineup to score, and then the big hits start coming.Watching this team day-in, day-out during the regular season, it is completely obvious how much of a better lineup it is when players have specific roles rather than the "Hey you Strawberry -- hit a home run!" philosophy.Spartans Rule said:
doctor Gunks
Footballguy
Torre gone, Lou Pinella in. The NY Daily News is breaking this, according to ESPN. Nice over-reaction by George. 
And Michael Brown's point about a 7-8 hitter who hits .300-25-90 being counterproductive to scoring runs is quite possibly the most inane thing yet in this thread, and there has been a lot of inane #### in here.
And Michael Brown's point about a 7-8 hitter who hits .300-25-90 being counterproductive to scoring runs is quite possibly the most inane thing yet in this thread, and there has been a lot of inane #### in here.
LongDuckDong
Footballguy
Michael - given that recent studies are showing that OBP is anywhere from 2 to 3X more important than SLG in how teams manufacture runs, I think what you're saying is that a power hitting #7 with an empty OBP is less helpful than a lesser power guy with a high OBP.
Not that I want to put words in your mouth but that would get us closer to something we can work with. Of course if OBP is equal we prefer the guy with a higher SLG so its not like the power is counterproductive to anything, it just might not offset poor on-base capabilities.
As for 2004, yes the Sox did scratch a run in the 9th of game 4 to tie it, but then you had the following:
Game 4: Ortiz HR in 12th to win game
Game 5: Ortiz HR in 8th to pull Sox within one
Game 6: Bellhorn 3R HR gives Sox 4-0 lead they never surrendered
Game 7: Ortiz HR in 1st, Damon GS in 2nd, Damon 2R HR later
The idea the Red Sox won that series with smallball simply isnt accurate. However it is accurate that they won it because their exhausted bullpen, Curt Schilling, and Derek Lowe pitched career-defining games. As did K. Rogers, Bonderman to lesser degree, et al (except Robertson) on the Tiger staff. Pitching, pitching, pitching.
So long as the Yanks and Sox rely on the AARP to carry their rotations they will be losing to those teams with dominant younger studs no matter how good the hitting is. Pitching wins in October.
Not that I want to put words in your mouth but that would get us closer to something we can work with. Of course if OBP is equal we prefer the guy with a higher SLG so its not like the power is counterproductive to anything, it just might not offset poor on-base capabilities.
As for 2004, yes the Sox did scratch a run in the 9th of game 4 to tie it, but then you had the following:
Game 4: Ortiz HR in 12th to win game
Game 5: Ortiz HR in 8th to pull Sox within one
Game 6: Bellhorn 3R HR gives Sox 4-0 lead they never surrendered
Game 7: Ortiz HR in 1st, Damon GS in 2nd, Damon 2R HR later
The idea the Red Sox won that series with smallball simply isnt accurate. However it is accurate that they won it because their exhausted bullpen, Curt Schilling, and Derek Lowe pitched career-defining games. As did K. Rogers, Bonderman to lesser degree, et al (except Robertson) on the Tiger staff. Pitching, pitching, pitching.
So long as the Yanks and Sox rely on the AARP to carry their rotations they will be losing to those teams with dominant younger studs no matter how good the hitting is. Pitching wins in October.
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Hamburglar
Footballguy
Chuck Knoblauch is a ####### #####!Michael Brown said:It's become a morbid tradition that every year after the Yanks get eliminated from the postseason, I send this text e-mail out to the Yankee fans I know. It's from Chuck Knoblauch right after the Yanks were eliminated by Arizona in 2001. Pretty much sums up the glaring difference between those winning teams and the current one. Can you even imagine anyone from this team thinking and saying such things about their teammates on THIS club?
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Darth Cheney
Footballguy
Hats of to the Tigers and their fans. The Tigers played a helluva series. I'm not going to complain or say the Yanks beat themselves or any of that. The Tigers won. The only thing that I will say is that those who talk about the payroll disparity in baseball affected the game on the field know nothing about the sport.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
In retrospect even considering the success of Torre, I can't believe he lasted this long. Pinella is a great manager for sure but he is grating as hell. Gonna take this team some time to adjust and I see some problems next year. Of course the team will likely look a lot different and you can bet they'll be chasing all the arms in FA possibly bumping that payroll even higher. It'll be interesting to see if they get rid of ARod and who would take him. Gotta think the Yankees will be eating some of his salary if they want him out.Torre gone, Lou Pinella in. The NY Daily News is breaking this, according to ESPN. Nice over-reaction by George.
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
Lupica just gave Rogers a lot of love on the Sports Reporters.
tipsy mcstagger
Footballguy
You think? 1-14 with no RBIs does indeed = sucking
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Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
This is true.............Now we know.Gag, cough, gag, cough ackkkkif you didn't know........NOW YOU KNOW
Michael Brown
Footballguy
It's not insane. And it's not counterproductive to scoring runs in general; but rather, scoring runs in the postseason.The Yankees have become a team that sits around and waits for the 3-run HR. A nice idea in theory if people actually hit them, but when they don't, you have NO chance of winning the game because the guys still in the lineup don't know HOW to produce runs. And in the postseason, you don't often get by with the longball alone. Yes, they are important (which I'd know seeing the Yankees hit so many dramatic ones over the years), but you have to be able to score other ways. Sure, Leyritz's HR in '96 was amazing and dramatic. But they had to scratch out 3 runs to get it to 6-3 first. Someone above mentioned how the Sox didn't win using small ball. That wasn't my point. I realize that once they got back into it, they slugged the Yanks out of the yard. But my point is that they ALSO had an alternative method of scoring runs. There would never have been an Ortiz or Bellhorn or Damon HR if they couldn't manufacture that run of Mo. The Yankee lineup, when filled with these stud hitters, doesn't have that ability to produce a run when they need to.You get a leadoff double from Matsui let's say. Ok, now who's gonna sacrifice or hit a ground ball to the right side to get him to 3B with less than two outs? Giambi? Posada? A-Rod? These guys are former MVPs and All-Stars, capable of hitting 30 HR. You can't ask them to give up an AB, justifiably so. Yet that is what made the previous Yankee teams win. Go check the stats if you don't believe me. THe greatest team of all-time, the 98 Yankees, didn't have a 30 HR hitter on the entire roster. And the 3B they traded for in the '97 off-season was coming off a season where his numbers were 11-41-.203 over 133 games but he played stellar defense. Can you even possibly fathom the Yankees plugging a guy with those stats into their lineup now? And guess what? Scott Brosius was a WS MVP and hit one of the most dramatic HRs in the history of the postseason off Kim. Who else hit big HR for the Yanks, or even other teams in recent seasons?Tino Martinez, Jim Leyritz, Derek Jeter, Chuck Knoblauch, Scott Podsednik, Scott Spiezio, Alex Gonzalez.Are these guys the hulking sluggers of MLB? Hell no! I'm not saying to go out and intentionally acquire seemingly mediocre players, but when the thought process is to build a team full of contributors rather than collection of superstars, players tend to pick one another up and sustain rallies. When everyone on the team is an All-Star, one of two things tend to happen. A) The team sits around and waits for someone to hit a HR, B) Everyone on the team presses so hard to be "the man" that we see results like 2006, 2005, and the second half of the Boston series in 2004. Watching these games, do the Yankees not appear to be tight as hell?That said, I'm not dismissing the importance of starting pitching. That is what won the Yankees all those World Series. And I addressed that above, but I'm just saying everyone needs pitching and it should go without saying. As far as the lineup goes, however, it's an incredible lineup in-season, but it's not conducive to winning playoff baseball.Torre gone, Lou Pinella in. The NY Daily News is breaking this, according to ESPN. Nice over-reaction by George.
Just like most Yankee fans HATED when they hired Torre only to see them LOVE him. Guess Yankee fans don't know as much as they think they do.
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