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***Officialish Detroit Tigers Thread*** (3 Viewers)

'Doctor Detroit said:
Pretty sure I sat in front of a Tigers fan that was dumber than Comer last night. He said Peralta should be taken out of the game after he made an out in the 2nd, said Valverde was a choke artist and said the "Yankees were trying to win the game" when they put Robertson in. Genius. He had a fat joke after every Sabathia pitch in the first two innings and I told him to simmer down and he did. What a tool.
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But did he take his hat off for the anthem?
 
'Doctor Detroit said:
Pretty sure I sat in front of a Tigers fan that was dumber than Comer last night. He said Peralta should be taken out of the game after he made an out in the 2nd, said Valverde was a choke artist and said the "Yankees were trying to win the game" when they put Robertson in. Genius. He had a fat joke after every Sabathia pitch in the first two innings and I told him to simmer down and he did. What a tool.
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"That guy" puts me in a foul mood when I'm trying to get into the game. My section was great. No would-be managers, lot of enthusiasm and some interesting banter about the moves being made. We were puzzled by the switch to Don Kelly with Magglio due up next, then had a good laugh when he executed the bunt hit.
 
'Doctor Detroit said:
Pretty sure I sat in front of a Tigers fan that was dumber than Comer last night. He said Peralta should be taken out of the game after he made an out in the 2nd, said Valverde was a choke artist and said the "Yankees were trying to win the game" when they put Robertson in.

Genius. He had a fat joke after every Sabathia pitch in the first two innings and I told him to simmer down and he did. What a tool.
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The bold part makes me laugh. Not sure why, I guess it's just kind of absurd and I find absurd really funny.Wish I had tickets for tonight. Getting together with buddies to watch but not as electric as being there.

 
How can you not laugh at a good fat joke?

When CC sits around the mound, he sits around the mound.

CC is so fat he has more pounds than the Bank of England.

I got more. I'll be here all week.

 
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Tom Gage/ The Detroit News

New York— Look who is ready to pitch Game 1 against the Texas Rangers on Saturday night.

You got it, Justin Verlander.

The same Verlander who was not sent to the bullpen for emergency availability during Thursday night's 3-2 victory over the Yankees in Game 5 of the Division Series.

"He took some heat, but he stuck to his guns," Verlander said about manager Jim Leyland's refusal to send his ace to the bullpen. "Just the way he drew it up. Perfect - or as close to perfect as anything is.

"Everybody in this (champagne-drenched) room believes in him and his decisions. It worked out great."

Verlander will get two starts in the ALCS against the Rangers — at least two, anyway.

That could be the next big question about him, though - his availability if there's a Game 7.

"I don't know, man," Verlander said. "That's so far away."

But possible — now that the Tigers are advancing.

 
G1 Verlander

G2 Porcello

G3 Fister

G4 Scherzer

G5 Verlander

That should be enough, they are 16-4 vs Texas at Comerica lately and I see that continuing.

 
If Delmon Young was available, I would seriously consider starting VMART at catcher and sitting Avila for a game. The long season has caught up to him, he looks awful.

No need to panic, but Miggy and VMART being ice cold to go along with Peralta and Avila struggling is really hurting at the moment. The Rangers bullpen is also pretty ridiculous but I still like the starter match-ups and baseball playoffs are all about starting pitching. Need Mad Max to be good max tomorrow, then back home. No panic in this team, just too many guys left on tonight and bad ABs by Avila, Fossil and VMart in key spots.

 
The Tigers wouldn't be in position to win the American League pennant if the Twins hadn't traded them Delmon Young, who hit three home runs in the first round to help eliminate the Yankees. No doubt young sealed the deal to get a big contract from the Tigers, and good for Delmon. As a Twins fan I do wish the Tigers well vs the Rangers

 
'Gopher State said:
The Tigers wouldn't be in position to win the American League pennant if the Twins hadn't traded them Delmon Young, who hit three home runs in the first round to help eliminate the Yankees. No doubt young sealed the deal to get a big contract from the Tigers, and good for Delmon.
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:rolleyes:
 
Maggs gone for the year, Boesch gone for the year, Guillen gone for the year and Young gone for the ALCS.

oof. Normally Maggs wouldn't hurt so much but he's been here before and the Rangers have all those LH pitchers. Now it's Kelly every day, and he's not great vs lefties. Add in Avila looking pretty lost at the plate and it's no wonder they only have 19 runs in six playoff games. Pitching is gonna have to be elite and they are gonna need the big guys to step up to advance.

 
Hard to figure out who they will activate to replace Ordonez...well I mean...easy. I think it will either be Pauley (who should already be on the roster anyway) or Delmon Young. They have no OF options on the 40 man roster unless you consider Clete Thomas an option, which seems doubtful for a number of reasons. Having Brad Penny on there still makes me mad now that I look at it. I think if they think Young has any chance to play in this series, they should activate him. Why not? Maybe he makes a miraculous recovery and starts game 4.

:shrug:

Tigers a series underdog to advance now, according to Vegas anyway. I thought they'd get game 1 and they had their chances, so now game 2 becomes really important. I think if they win tomorrow, they still win the series. Not having Verlander go in game 4 is ridiculous though, I understood it in the ALDS but not here. If he goes game 4 and you get an extra rain delay, he could go game 7. But Leyland has been ####ting gold bars all year, I'll just shut up and color.

 
Depends how bad Young is hurt. That is a very painful injury to take a hard cut of the bat with. It would certainly effect his swing and even be painful to make a hard throw. Leyland won't do it. But yeah, Tigers have to pitch Verlander in game 4 if we are to have hope.

 
'jon_mx said:
Depends how bad Young is hurt. That is a very painful injury to take a hard cut of the bat with. It would certainly effect his swing and even be painful to make a hard throw.
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Leyland had prepared two line-ups this morning but I guess Young was feeling ok.
Buster_ESPN Buster OlneyLeyland on Delmon: "He's feeling pretty good... Did all kinds of workouts... We've already made the decision... he will play."
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At this point who do you want in there? Young or Dirks? They can probably take him out in the 7th or so but I hope it holds. Oblique injuries are weird, no real timeline on when guys are actually healed.
 
Leyland also says Max is "fully rested" because of the rainout yesterday so I guess with the Young news and this, that might have been a good thing. I'm one of the few with faith in Max, please be good today creepy eyes.

 
Tigers OPS numbers prior to game 2:

Delmon 1.170

Maggs .928

Kelly .917

Inge .899

Raburn .885

Cabrera .806

Ramon .667

So Cabrera, VMART and Peralta are all due. Avila is at .186, just wow. I think a lot of it has to do with him being tired and he was pressing in that bases loaded at bat the other night where he normally would have taken that second pitch. He swung at ball two because it was a fastball, and he just wanted a fastball. Not good.

 
You have to pitch Verlander in Game 4 now, you have to. It's not because game 4 is a must win (well I hope it isn't), but because if there is an extra day due to rain (and we've had a lot of that), then Verlander is on full rest for a game 7. Or Verlander on three days rest for game seven, who knows. I doubt Leyland would use him in that circumstance but what if the game plays out like tonight. Verlander in the 11th?

AJAX is just lost, wow he is over-matched with high end fastballs. Avila had some life tonight and Kelly, Scherzer, Santiago, Valverde, Raburn, Coke and Benoit earned their playoff checks. The rest of the team was pretty bad and Dirks and Perry should not be on this roster. Pauley never got a chance and they could have used him in the 11th tonight and he's always been a better option that Perry. Brad Penny "deserved to be on the playoff roster" yet I guess he doesn't deserve to pitch. Not that I want him to pitch, but playing politics at this point in the year is strange...even for Jimmy.

And even though we often disagree, the one thing every Tigers fan can agree on is that Gene Lamont is categorically terrible. Wow he really cost them that run. When it was hit I just assumed we had taken the lead. Didn't you? I mean it would have had to been a perfect relay to get Santiago. Gene always sends guys and then in the one situation you absilutely send a guy, he doesn't. I mean they can't score off this bullpen, why would you even second guess if he was nailed at the plate? Because of Cruz's arm? Because Cabrera was coming up? Oof, awful.

They have won a lot of games this year they weren't supposed to win but today they lost a game they had no business losing. Texas is really a good team, I mean they are definitely the best team I've seen this year but they are vulnerable in their starters and they can be had. They had a shot to win game one, and should have won today. But it ain't over till it's over I guess, I still have faith they can pull this off.

LET'S GO TIGERS!!!!

 
Cool....let Verlander throw a few pitches, hopefully an out or two, then let him get his standing ovation like he deserves. :thumbup:

 
'Doctor Detroit said:
If you told me in April they'd be in this position, I would have taken it every time. In Max we trust.
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Two wins away from the World Series is not a bad place to be. I feel good having Max and Fister going. Certainly, Texas has a better lineup and homefield advantage, but this is still doable. Great starting pitching can make up for a lot of difficencies. I always thought the Tigers were good enough to take their weak division, but did not think they had a chance against the Yankees But with their mid-season additions, they became good enough to compete against anyone.
 
So the season is over and a fine one it was. Here is a look at what is going on at each position.



C

Alex Avila

-We knew he was likely the long-term solution but this year was special. He led all major league qualified catchers in innings caught, slugging percentage and OPS and was second in RBIs. He also did a great job with the pitching staff and ended up with the third best percentage in baseball in throwing out base stealers. Next year he'll catch less, a capable back-up at the position is a must.

1B

Miggy

-Another season with MVP numbers, no surprise here

2B

Ramon Santiago/Ryan Raburn

-Neither is a long-term solution or an every day player. Santiago is a better righthanded hitter which makes platooning him strange unless he was the RH platoon. Raburn is simply too streaky and a mess in the field. He's a platoon fill player. Tigers need a 2Bman who can leadoff, that would probably be their 2nd best need in the offseason.

3B

Blackhole, #1 priority, nuff said. Peralta can move here if they can find a shorty.

SS

Jhonny Peralta

-Listen to this, Peralta was 2nd in the AL in fielding percentage and 4th in all of baseball in UZR. Yep, guy was rock solid. He was also 4th in all of baseball among SSs in HRs, RBIs and led the AL among shorties in OPS. Really great season here, Peralta was a great acquisition.

LF

Delmon Young

-Picked up at the trade deadline for a bag of balls he performed very well accept for his dislike of the walk. He enters an arbitration year where he will command a nice paycheck but he's probably worth a look in 2012.

CF

Austin Jackson

-After a surprising rookie season Ajax regressed. He struck out 181 times, Adam Dunn-like numbers which is fine but only AJAX hits 1st. He can't continue to stay in that spot and AJAX likely will see better power numbers moving forward if he's moved down. But he's an elite fielding CFer, 4th in baseball in UZER and exponentially better than a fading Curtis Granderson. He saved countless runs and he's only gonna get better.

RF

Brennan Boesch

-He's a guy people don't know much about if they are outside of Detroit, but this kid put it together this year. Once though of as a platoon guy Boesch had a couple of really hot months and losing him hurt the Tigers worse than any other single occurrence in 2011.

DH

VMART

-Simply :wub: Led all hitters in the game with hitting with RISP, exactly what you need behind Miggy. Him not being able to catch more hurt Avila though, so unless they find a FA catcher VMART needs to catch 30 to 35 games next year which I'm not sure is possible

Bench:

Kelly is becoming the Shane Halter/John Wockenfuss of his generation, a hearty hitter and sure handed fielder who can play six positions. Raburn is solid, Santiago is an FA who might find a starting job and Maggs is gone.

Starting pitching:

The strength of the team as the playoffs proved.

Justin Verlander: Ace, ace, ace. More innings than any other pitcher, went six innings or more in every start and an auto win for the Cy Young.



Mad Max: I love Max, 3.11 K/BB, very above average stuff and a guy that loves pitching at Comerica Park. He had 33 starts this year, in 20 he gave up 2 ERs or less and nine starts where he gave up 5 ER or more. We preach consistency in the strike zone with Max but the really good Max is a bit of a wild card, someone where you aren't quite sure what to expect.

Doug ####### Fister: I was calling for him to come to Detroit and I got my wish but not even I expected what I saw. He was spectacular in almost every way, and he is under contract for a long time.

Rick Porcello: He's 22 and he really shows he can man up in big games. He was terrible a lot this year but he's not a guy with overpowering stuff and he'd a guy that takes time to fully develop. I think Porcello is a #3 starter from next year on, I think he will have a nice 2012 and is a great middle of the rotation guy.

The 5th spot is open. Jacob Turner is probably not quite ready yet and they need to find a #5 guy that is better than Brad Penny was this past year. This way they can have Turner in Toledo and use him for spot starts and some middle relief as he continues to develop. A lefthander would be nice.



Bullpen

Valverde will get his team option picked up, he was simply fantastic in 2011 although he can never just make it easy.

Benoit: We paid $16 mill for three years and after a rough start, probably got about $10 mill worth in year one. Lights out, one of the best set-up guys in the game.

Coke: Coke! I never liked him going to the rotation. He is a very capable 7th inning guy and he's better as a straight one inning guy than as a situational guy.

Schlereth: Situational guy, looked good down the stretch

AlAl: Oof, this guy is crazy wild but his stuff is great. I don't think they can ever depend on him to pitch more than a few weeks at a time

Perry: He stunk bad, but maybe he can recover and have a good year next year. He's still got minor league options to be used.

Pauley: He should have been on the playoff roster. These guys are unpredictable from year to year but Pauley could be fine.

They need to add another bullpen arm but the pitching staff is pretty much set besides the #5 starter. Crosby and Turner lurk but neither is ready yet.

 
'whoknew said:
Oh well.Great season.
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2006 was a blur, I enjoyed this season a lot more. Outside the '84 team, this was my favorite ever.so hard in baseball to have a season like that, but I think they have a god shot of being good the next few years. Cleveland is gonna be good, KC is really improving but the pitching stinks, Sux should be bad again but they have decent pitching and the Twins are a mess but we should ever underestimate them. We badly missed Boesch in the playoffs and need to get a leadoff hitter for sure. But the Starting pitching looks great, the hitting is among the best and the bullpen has a great core.
 
'Doctor Detroit said:
'whoknew said:
Oh well.Great season.
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2006 was a blur, I enjoyed this season a lot more. Outside the '84 team, this was my favorite ever.so hard in baseball to have a season like that, but I think they have a god shot of being good the next few years. Cleveland is gonna be good, KC is really improving but the pitching stinks, Sux should be bad again but they have decent pitching and the Twins are a mess but we should ever underestimate them. We badly missed Boesch in the playoffs and need to get a leadoff hitter for sure. But the Starting pitching looks great, the hitting is among the best and the bullpen has a great core.
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I agree, we are close and should have a few more good seasons. As always, I love the Tigers and look forward to next year.Peace
 
'teamramrod said:
'Doctor Detroit said:
'whoknew said:
Oh well.Great season.
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2006 was a blur, I enjoyed this season a lot more. Outside the '84 team, this was my favorite ever.so hard in baseball to have a season like that, but I think they have a god shot of being good the next few years. Cleveland is gonna be good, KC is really improving but the pitching stinks, Sux should be bad again but they have decent pitching and the Twins are a mess but we should ever underestimate them. We badly missed Boesch in the playoffs and need to get a leadoff hitter for sure. But the Starting pitching looks great, the hitting is among the best and the bullpen has a great core.
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I agree, we are close and should have a few more good seasons. As always, I love the Tigers and look forward to next year.Peace
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You are always welcome in this thread, stop on through in May sometime. :thumbup:
 
'Doctor Detroit said:
'teamramrod said:
'Doctor Detroit said:
'whoknew said:
Oh well.Great season.
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2006 was a blur, I enjoyed this season a lot more. Outside the '84 team, this was my favorite ever.so hard in baseball to have a season like that, but I think they have a god shot of being good the next few years. Cleveland is gonna be good, KC is really improving but the pitching stinks, Sux should be bad again but they have decent pitching and the Twins are a mess but we should ever underestimate them. We badly missed Boesch in the playoffs and need to get a leadoff hitter for sure. But the Starting pitching looks great, the hitting is among the best and the bullpen has a great core.
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I agree, we are close and should have a few more good seasons. As always, I love the Tigers and look forward to next year.Peace
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You are always welcome in this thread, stop on through in May sometime. :thumbup:
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Thanks DD. Out of respect to Ernie, I listened to Dan and Jim on the radio tonight. The way baseball should be enjoyed.peace
 
'teamramrod said:
'Doctor Detroit said:
'teamramrod said:
'Doctor Detroit said:
'whoknew said:
Oh well.Great season.
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2006 was a blur, I enjoyed this season a lot more. Outside the '84 team, this was my favorite ever.so hard in baseball to have a season like that, but I think they have a god shot of being good the next few years. Cleveland is gonna be good, KC is really improving but the pitching stinks, Sux should be bad again but they have decent pitching and the Twins are a mess but we should ever underestimate them. We badly missed Boesch in the playoffs and need to get a leadoff hitter for sure. But the Starting pitching looks great, the hitting is among the best and the bullpen has a great core.
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I agree, we are close and should have a few more good seasons. As always, I love the Tigers and look forward to next year.Peace
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You are always welcome in this thread, stop on through in May sometime. :thumbup:
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Thanks DD. Out of respect to Ernie, I listened to Dan and Jim on the radio tonight. The way baseball should be enjoyed.peace
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I listened to 8 of the 10 playoff games on the radio, tonight and game 1 of the ALDS were the exceptions. I would have the game on the radio and it was about 2 seconds ahead of the TV feed, so I saw things unfolding like I was creating the game play. I listened to or watched at least 140 games this year, I think it might have been about 152 out of 172. But I prefer the radio, always have. when I was a kid we had an unfinished basement with concrete walls and I'd have my glove, a tennis ball and Ernie and Paul on the radio every night. Until I discovered girls/###### I would listen to almost every game. Those 20+ games I miss now, due to girls/######. :mellow:
 
How much is ownership willing to spend in the offseason? Austin Jackson is a great defensive centerfielder, but is a horrible table setter, better suited as a # 9 hitter.

What are the chances they get in on the Jose Reyes sweepstakes? Pheralta goes to 3rd (improvement), and they get a dynamic shortstop.

 
Great season. Had a lot of fun this year. No disappointment in losing in the playoffs. Making it is the game, then anything can happen.

And Illitch has said he would increase payroll next year, which is key since arbitration raises and other pay raises give the Tigers less relief than may be expected with Maggs and Guillen dropping off.

 
'Bojang0301 said:
So is it way too much to ask for KRod and Reyes?
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Why would we want KRod? We've been through this before and thankfully didn't sign him the first time. He will still be overpaid, not worth it when you can find a lot cheaper options that will likely be just as good. Plus that guy wants to close, he won't close in Detroit. Reyes will demand a huge deal, I'm not sure we'd be in the running or want to be in the running. Jimmy Rollins is probably a lot cheaper option as he can lead off. Based on the FAs available though the Tigers would have to trade for a 2B/3B to realistically fill the spots. If they bring a guy like Rollins in they have to deal with his injuries too, which are frequent.
 
'igbomb said:
Great season. Had a lot of fun this year. No disappointment in losing in the playoffs. Making it is the game, then anything can happen.And Illitch has said he would increase payroll next year, which is key since arbitration raises and other pay raises give the Tigers less relief than may be expected with Maggs and Guillen dropping off.
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Going into the 2011 off-season, the Tigers will have five player who will be arbitration eligible. Those players include… * First time: Rick Porcello, Max Scherzer, Phil Coke, Don Kelly * Second time: None * Third time: Delmon YoungTim Dierkes of MLBTradeRumors.com takes a look at what he believes the Tigers will do with these five players when it comes to offering them arbitration.According to Dierkes, he can see the Tigers offer all five players arbitration with each of them getting some salary bump in 2012. Rick Porcello and Max Scherzer could see first-time salaries in the $4 million dollar range while he projects Don Kelly to get $700 thousand with Phil Coke projected to get $1.4 million.Dierkes goes on to say that Delmon Youngs 7 home runs, 49 RBIs and 39 runs this season so far could lead to a small raise. This could be in the $725 thousand dollar range bumping his salary up to $6.1 million in 2012 which he believes the Tigers could take a chance on depending on what Young does the rest of the season.Finally though Dierkes takes a look at Jose Valverde, who isn’t arbitration eligible but does have a team option for 2012. A couple of weeks ago Jon Heyman of SI.com said that it was likely that the Tigers would pick up that option on Vavlerde considering he is 40 for 40 this year in save opportunities. A remarkable number that Valverde will probably never see again. So if the Tigers are to retain all their arbitration eligible players and bring back Jose Valverde for $9 million dollars, the Tigers would have, according to Dierkes, just under $100 million dollars in 2012 commitments. If this is the case Dierkes believes that the Tigers would either have to raise their payroll to 2008-10 levels or trade someone in order to get a prominent free agent or two in the offseason.
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Source: MLBTradeRumors.com, SI.comSo you aren't too far off, Their payroll will be almost $100 million and that is without the necessities such as a RH relief guy and a third basemen. There are a ton of options for a 5th starter though, so that is nice. Figure $5-6 million there plus another $4 million for a good reliever. I really don't see them being in the Reyes sweepstakes but I'm not gonna discourage it either.
 
Great season Tigers!

Reyes is not the answer this off season, playing for a contract he can't stay healthy. Don't want to imagine what happens after he gets paid.

We need a lead off hitter and more bullpen depth though. Is Bourn a free agent? Would love to add him.

 
'Doctor Detroit said:
'Bojang0301 said:
So is it way too much to ask for KRod and Reyes?
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Why would we want KRod? We've been through this before and thankfully didn't sign him the first time. He will still be overpaid, not worth it when you can find a lot cheaper options that will likely be just as good. Plus that guy wants to close, he won't close in Detroit. Reyes will demand a huge deal, I'm not sure we'd be in the running or want to be in the running. Jimmy Rollins is probably a lot cheaper option as he can lead off. Based on the FAs available though the Tigers would have to trade for a 2B/3B to realistically fill the spots. If they bring a guy like Rollins in they have to deal with his injuries too, which are frequent.
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It's really the first and best bullpen option I could think of. It isn't that our bullpen is bad it's just that they ran out of options in the playoffs and allowed Papa Grande and Benoit to get gassed. I would still love to see Reyes out at short though. He's worth the injury risk.
 
'Bojang0301 said:
'Doctor Detroit said:
'Bojang0301 said:
So is it way too much to ask for KRod and Reyes?
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Why would we want KRod? We've been through this before and thankfully didn't sign him the first time. He will still be overpaid, not worth it when you can find a lot cheaper options that will likely be just as good. Plus that guy wants to close, he won't close in Detroit. Reyes will demand a huge deal, I'm not sure we'd be in the running or want to be in the running. Jimmy Rollins is probably a lot cheaper option as he can lead off. Based on the FAs available though the Tigers would have to trade for a 2B/3B to realistically fill the spots. If they bring a guy like Rollins in they have to deal with his injuries too, which are frequent.
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It's really the first and best bullpen option I could think of. It isn't that our bullpen is bad it's just that they ran out of options in the playoffs and allowed Papa Grande and Benoit to get gassed. I would still love to see Reyes out at short though. He's worth the injury risk.
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Closers

Heath Bell (34)

Jonathan Broxton (28)

Matt Capps (28)

Francisco Cordero (37) - $12MM club option with a $1MM buyout

Frank Francisco (32)

Brad Lidge (35) - $12.5MM club option with a $1.5MM buyout

Joe Nathan (37) - $12.5MM club option with a $2MM buyout

Jonathan Papelbon (31)

Jon Rauch (33) - $3.75MM club option with a $250K buyout

Francisco Rodriguez (30)

Rafael Soriano (32) - $11MM player option or a $1.5MM buyout

Jose Valverde (34) - $9MM club option, no buyout

Right-handed relievers

Luis Ayala (34)

Danys Baez (34)

Miguel Batista (41)

Shawn Camp (36)

Todd Coffey (31)

Juan Cruz (31)

Octavio Dotel (38) - $3.75MM club option with a $750K buyout

Chad Durbin (34)

Kyle Farnsworth (36) - $3.3MM club option with a $650K buyout

Jason Frasor (34) - $3.75MM club option

LaTroy Hawkins (37)

Aaron Heilman (33)

Ryota Igarashi (33)

Jason Isringhausen (39)

Scott Linebrink (35)

Mike MacDougal (35)

Ryan Madson (31)

Guillermo Mota (38)

Pat Neshek (31)

Ramon Ortiz (39)

Micah Owings (29)

Vicente Padilla (34)

Tony Pena (30)

Chad Qualls (33) - $6MM club option with a $1.5MM buyout will be declined

Jon Rauch (33) - $3.75MM club option with a $250K buyout

Fernando Rodney (35)

Takashi Saito (42)

Yoshinori Tateyama (36) - $1MM club option

Dan Wheeler (34) - $3MM club option with no buyout; vests with 65 appearances in 2011

Kerry Wood (35)

Jamey Wright (37)

Michael Wuertz (33) - $3.25MM club option with a $250K buyout

Joel Zumaya (27)
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The bolded are guys that would be cheaper, but probably would be almost as good options. Even a guy like Linebrink could fill the need the Tigers have of a RH pitcher who can pitch the 8th sometimes, and pair with Coke in the 7th at others. Again, I think KRod is overrated and overpriced and he'll want to try and close somewhere anyway. Now if they get him for a decent price for a year, I'm all for it. :D
 
'Balco said:
How much is ownership willing to spend in the offseason? Austin Jackson is a great defensive centerfielder, but is a horrible table setter, better suited as a # 9 hitter. What are the chances they get in on the Jose Reyes sweepstakes? Pheralta goes to 3rd (improvement), and they get a dynamic shortstop.
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I wouldn't mind seeing this.
 
'Doctor Detroit said:
The bolded are guys that would be cheaper, but probably would be almost as good options. Even a guy like Linebrink could fill the need the Tigers have of a RH pitcher who can pitch the 8th sometimes, and pair with Coke in the 7th at others. Again, I think KRod is overrated and overpriced and he'll want to try and close somewhere anyway. Now if they get him for a decent price for a year, I'm all for it. :D
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I'm not a fan of spending big money on relievers. There's too much volatility year in and year out. And its easy to find fill-ins for relatively cheap. The Tigers bullpen isn't really in horrible shape. Assuming Coke stays in the bullpen, you have a back 3 of Coke, Benoit, Valverde. They should be able to piece together the rest of the bullpen with AlAl, Perry, Zumaya, Below, etc. and maybe one or two low level signings.
 
'Leroy Hoard said:
'Balco said:
How much is ownership willing to spend in the offseason? Austin Jackson is a great defensive centerfielder, but is a horrible table setter, better suited as a # 9 hitter. What are the chances they get in on the Jose Reyes sweepstakes? Pheralta goes to 3rd (improvement), and they get a dynamic shortstop.
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I wouldn't mind seeing this.
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In Wojo's interview of Illitch a week or so ago, Illitch talked about adding another big bat for next year. I think that could be possible with Maggs/Guillen coming off the books. It will be interesting to see if Victor can go back to being the backup catcher or just has to be the fulltime DH.Anyway, somewhere between LF/3B/2B they need to add a better bat. Especially since Avila and Peralta will most likely regress.
 
'whoknew said:
'Leroy Hoard said:
'Balco said:
How much is ownership willing to spend in the offseason? Austin Jackson is a great defensive centerfielder, but is a horrible table setter, better suited as a # 9 hitter. What are the chances they get in on the Jose Reyes sweepstakes? Pheralta goes to 3rd (improvement), and they get a dynamic shortstop.
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I wouldn't mind seeing this.
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In Wojo's interview of Illitch a week or so ago, Illitch talked about adding another big bat for next year. I think that could be possible with Maggs/Guillen coming off the books. It will be interesting to see if Victor can go back to being the backup catcher or just has to be the fulltime DH.Anyway, somewhere between LF/3B/2B they need to add a better bat. Especially since Avila and Peralta will most likely regress.
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As Balco mentioned, leadoff is a hole the 80% of the time Ajax is flailing up there. BB I would assume would return to the #2 spot.
 
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