Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
Berry has been a major boost to the lineup. Kid is a firecracker. I'm cautiously getting excited again.
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums
This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!
***Officialish Detroit Tigers Thread*** (3 Viewers)
- Thread starter Doctor Detroit
- Start date
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Don't do it.I'll be at PNC for the weekend series, going Saturday for sure...and one of the other games (probably tomorrow). Getting two of three and getting back to .500 to resume AL play would be nice.
I am cautiously starting to pay attention again. Damn, were they painful to watch for a while.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
You're in line for a possible sweep. You'll get Correia and Lincoln. :X
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Put V-Mart at #5 and watch Porky-Prince really start blasting them.
MAC_32
Footballguy
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Lincoln pitched a gem. He's been shaky of late so color me shocked. Surely Verlander can't lose to Correia.......................
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Whew! Nice catch by Raburn in the 8th.
I saw that Fielder ran himself into an out (after Young's single). What's with these guys? Cabrera has done that a few times also. Guys, you're big and slow. Stop going for the extra base and running us out of an inning.
I saw that Fielder ran himself into an out (after Young's single). What's with these guys? Cabrera has done that a few times also. Guys, you're big and slow. Stop going for the extra base and running us out of an inning.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Had a great time in Pittsburgh, even got to meet Whoknew and have a beer on Saturday. 
Tigers scored eight runs the past five days, I mean we just can't win consistently if the offense is going to be this terrible. On Saturday in particular it was just embarrassing.
PNC v Comerica:
Field: Comerica>PNC because we have the brick walls, the better wall scoreboard in right and I like the dimensions better.
Setting: PNC>Comerica because I'm not sure you could possibly replicate the skyline with the bridges and hills anywhere, PNC beats everyone in baseball at this.
Stadium beyond the field: Even. Comerica has much better/wider concourses and you can see the game at almost any angle as you walk around which is hard to do at PNC. Concessions at Comerica are also better with shorter lines from what I saw and we have the statues and SRO rail in CF. Not many places to stop and watch at PNC. I do think PNC has better site lines from the seats though, the configuration is smaller and almost feels like a minor league park which is really nice.
Overall I still like Comerica better because we have the CF area which is so particular and awesome and I love the statues and playing field. However if I was a Pirates fan I'd find a way to justify PNC being the best park, it is absolutely tremendous. When you walk across the Roberto Clemente bridge to get to the stadium it's just awesome. I still think Camden is the best baseball stadium n all things considered, but Comerica and PNC are in the same zip code and both great places to watch a game.
For the Tigers this is life or death week, they need to step it up against the really good teams or they'll be too far behind by August for it to matter. 4-3 would be super, 3-4 acceptable.
Tigers scored eight runs the past five days, I mean we just can't win consistently if the offense is going to be this terrible. On Saturday in particular it was just embarrassing.PNC v Comerica:
Field: Comerica>PNC because we have the brick walls, the better wall scoreboard in right and I like the dimensions better.
Setting: PNC>Comerica because I'm not sure you could possibly replicate the skyline with the bridges and hills anywhere, PNC beats everyone in baseball at this.
Stadium beyond the field: Even. Comerica has much better/wider concourses and you can see the game at almost any angle as you walk around which is hard to do at PNC. Concessions at Comerica are also better with shorter lines from what I saw and we have the statues and SRO rail in CF. Not many places to stop and watch at PNC. I do think PNC has better site lines from the seats though, the configuration is smaller and almost feels like a minor league park which is really nice.
Overall I still like Comerica better because we have the CF area which is so particular and awesome and I love the statues and playing field. However if I was a Pirates fan I'd find a way to justify PNC being the best park, it is absolutely tremendous. When you walk across the Roberto Clemente bridge to get to the stadium it's just awesome. I still think Camden is the best baseball stadium n all things considered, but Comerica and PNC are in the same zip code and both great places to watch a game.
For the Tigers this is life or death week, they need to step it up against the really good teams or they'll be too far behind by August for it to matter. 4-3 would be super, 3-4 acceptable.
Last edited by a moderator:
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Did you get a chance to hit the casino (walking distance from the stadium)?Had a great time in Pittsburgh, even got to meet Whoknew and have a beer on Saturday.
PNC v Comerica:
Field: Comerica>PNC because we have the brick walls, the better wall scoreboard in right and I like the dimensions better.
Setting: PNC>Comerica because I'm not sure you could possibly replicate the skyline with the bridges and hills anywhere, PNC beats everyone in baseball at this.
Stadium beyond the field: Even. Comerica has much better/wider concourses and you can see the game at almost any angle as you walk around which is hard to do at PNC. Concessions at Comerica are also better with shorter lines from what I saw and we have the statues and SRO rail in CF. Not many places to stop and watch at PNC. I do think PNC has better site lines from the seats though, the configuration is smaller and almost feels like a minor league park which is really nice.
Overall I still like Comerica better because we have the CF area which is so particular and awesome and I love the statues and playing field. However if I was a Pirates fan I'd find a way to justify PNC being the best park, it is absolutely tremendous. When you walk across the Roberto Clemente bridge to get to the stadium it's just awesome. I still think Camden is the best baseball stadium n all things considered, but Comerica and PNC are in the same zip code and both great places to watch a game.
For the Tigers this is life or death week, they need to step it up against the really good teams or they'll be too far behind by August for it to matter. 4-3 would be super, 3-4 acceptable.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Fred>saw it but I'm not much for casinos not in Vegas, too much other stuff to do in Pittsbugh.
Tigers are sniffing around Jed Lowrie and then would move Peralta to 2B. This would really upgrade the infield defense even if Lowrie goes to 2B (he's got some experience there) and he'd make a pretty decent #2 hitter as he doesn't K much and walks. But what about Chase Headley instead? Headley plays 3B but he's played OF before and I think he might be able to play 2B if it was asked. Both Lowrie and Headley are under contract through 2014, I really like either option. Headley is gonna cost more and both will cost at least one of the pitching prospects, but both have managable contracts and both fill a need.
Matt Garza being mentioned also, gotta think the Cubs will be asking way too much. I'm fine with the rotation we have now with one of the kids rotating in the 5th spot and I think the Tigers could probably find a little cheaper option than Garza.
Porcello gets a five run lead, let's see if he can hold it.
Tigers are sniffing around Jed Lowrie and then would move Peralta to 2B. This would really upgrade the infield defense even if Lowrie goes to 2B (he's got some experience there) and he'd make a pretty decent #2 hitter as he doesn't K much and walks. But what about Chase Headley instead? Headley plays 3B but he's played OF before and I think he might be able to play 2B if it was asked. Both Lowrie and Headley are under contract through 2014, I really like either option. Headley is gonna cost more and both will cost at least one of the pitching prospects, but both have managable contracts and both fill a need.
Matt Garza being mentioned also, gotta think the Cubs will be asking way too much. I'm fine with the rotation we have now with one of the kids rotating in the 5th spot and I think the Tigers could probably find a little cheaper option than Garza.
Porcello gets a five run lead, let's see if he can hold it.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
I think I agree that's he's a little overrated although he has very good control, making him a little more valuable to those looking for pitching talent. Also just 21 and about major league ready, I think Turner could be traded for Garza but IMO they wouldn't trade him for a Headley or Lowrie. I'd think Oliver or Crosby, I think Smlyly is fairly untouchable as are Castellanos and Garcia. Smyly will start tomorrow, Turner sent back down. Also Alex Avila's knee is troubling and he got another MRI before the game today. No structural damage the last time he had his knee looked at but if it's hurting him that bad, he needs to rest for an extended period or have surgery. Porcello with two very good starts in a row vs two good offensive teams, interesting.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
I guess if you have so few good position prospects, you hold anything even halfway decent. Garcia is a good fielder with a big arm, maybe they think the hitting will come (he's not too bad, if he took some walks his numbers would look better). He's a big guy and just 21, probably three years away. Tigers have a ton of pitching anyway, they won't have to trade him and probably shouldn't.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Same here, I'd rather go after a 2B with a good bat. Make Ramon the backup middle infielder and they can dump Raburn/Worth and then maybe open up another spot for a returning injured player.'Doctor Detroit said:
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
I remember seeing Garcia play with the Whitecaps. He was a big athletic looking OF. I hadn't heard much about him until they now say he's untouchable. Castellanos had better not be traded. No way. I'd rather see anyone else go...including Turner. Nick could be special.I would love to see them get Lowrie. Yes please and thank you. He can just fit in at 2B and bat 2nd, unless Berry doesn't let that spot go.I'd say no to Garza. The Cubs will ask too much. Garza is a real quality pitcher but can someone tell me why he's bounced around so much? If he's so great why is everyone trading him off? He seems to be wound pretty tight, kind of a hothead. Maybe he's a jerk in the clubhouse.ETA: Holy Jimmy Smokes! I was unable to watch last night but did I see the box score correct? 8 runs off 10 hits and none of them were HR's?
Last edited by a moderator:
tri-man 47
Footballguy
ETA: Holy Jimmy Smokes! I was unable to watch last night but did I see the box score correct? 8 runs off 10 hits and none of them were HR's?
They just strung together a bunch of singles and doubles. Porcello seemed strong ...stranded a lot of runners. That was a win they needed to start the series, and it helped a lot that the Sux and Tribe lost, which tightens things up. Sux are struggling - no quality depth with the starting pitching, little quality at all in their set-up guys, and Dunn now slumping and leading the league in Ks. If we can come out of these two series with a winning record, as Dr. D hopes, we should be right in the thick of things. We can win any game with JV, Max, Fister, Porcello, and Smyly ...and hold any lead with our bullpen. We can also win games when the bats get hot, especially with the strong front four. We just need to keep winning 6 of 10 as we have been lately.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
I remember disliking players from Tigers teams back in the late 90s, early 2000s because they were almost all terrible. Hated Trammell as a manager, never was a fan of Todd Jones and watching Nate Cornejo pitch was like watching yourself thrown out the door of a moving vehicle. But I really can't stand Delmon Young, he has almost no redeemable quality. Has a .454 OPS when he leads off innings (60 PAs) with 13Ks and 0 BBs. .224 Avg after a 1-1 count, .509 OPS in high leverage situations and he's pretty much an auto out in the first three innings. I mean I would rather Ramon Santiago hit 5th.
Well at least he's a great fielder.
Well at least he's a great fielder.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
lolThe guy I'm glad is gone is Brad Penny. Like watching paint dry even slower than it usually dries.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
They've got to put somebody else in the 5 spot. I'm totally baffled why they leave DY there.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
I was puzzled as to why the Twins would trade Young to a division rival..now I know why. On another note that Ranger lineup is tough to get through unscathed. Great balance of speed and power.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
On Saturday McCutchen's three-run homer was on an 0-2 count.
Tonight Murphy's three-run homer was on an 0-2 count.
Are you ####### serious? This team is so unprepared to play pretty much every day, it's like they do no scouting at all and can't employ common sense. I won't be around for awhile, hopefully they win some while I'm away. Oof.
Tonight Murphy's three-run homer was on an 0-2 count.
Are you ####### serious? This team is so unprepared to play pretty much every day, it's like they do no scouting at all and can't employ common sense. I won't be around for awhile, hopefully they win some while I'm away. Oof.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Have to wonder if the Tigers have any buyers remorse with Fielder? It has nothing to do with Fielder as a hitter because when all is said and done his numbers will be solid.
It would like the Angels signing Fielder and moving Albert to third full-time..just not a good fit. I feel a little bad for Miggy at third. Miggy had turned himself into a very solid defender at first but he is what he is at third and it is not very good. Miggy is started to look frustrated at third. Plus Prince can`t field his lunch at first.
DD may have been correct when he said he liked Prince but could not see him as a fit on the Tigers.
It would like the Angels signing Fielder and moving Albert to third full-time..just not a good fit. I feel a little bad for Miggy at third. Miggy had turned himself into a very solid defender at first but he is what he is at third and it is not very good. Miggy is started to look frustrated at third. Plus Prince can`t field his lunch at first.
DD may have been correct when he said he liked Prince but could not see him as a fit on the Tigers.
MAC_32
Footballguy
It'll be fine once Castellanos is ready. If Victor is still here then Miggy moves out to LF, if Victor's gone then Miggy goes back to 1B and Prince to DH. Most importantly, if the Tigers start winning Miggy will be less frustrated at 3B. The problem is fixing that winning problem. There are a lot of holes to fill and some of them need to be fixed internally, care to venture a guess which ones? I sure dont'
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
VMart @ #5 will help Prince's numbers since Young is no real protection.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Understatement. If he returns a domino effect hits the lineup as Raburn and Delmon only play vs. lefties. Against righties Santiago takes 2B, and two of Berry-Boesch-Dirks are in the corners. Then we only have to deal with Raburn and Delmon in pinch hitting opportunities if a lefty comes in, and can immediately bench them and put Don Kelly in the OF. Against lefties Santiago and two of the lefty OF's sit, Berry's likely one of them.Without V Mart there's holes up and down the lineup.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Looks like there may need to be a plan B for right now:
ST. PETERSBURG -- The good news on Victor Martinez's left knee is that it's healing fine for him to fully recover. The bad news for some Tigers fans who got their hopes up is that he won't be recovering in time for an August return.
Any return this year sounds more like the tail end of the regular season.
"Our best-case scenario for him would be a return sometime probably in mid- to late-September, at best," head athletic trainer Kevin Rand said.
That's exactly what was originally projected when Dr. Richard Steadman, the specialist who performed his microfracture knee surgery, determined Martinez wouldn't need a second surgery to repair his anterior cruciate ligament. It just wasn't what some had been built up to hope for.
Manager Jim Leyland, for one, has stuck with his original timetable.
"I came into the season thinking that if we had Victor at all this year, it would be a bonus," Leyland said. "That's just the way I kind of looked at it. After talking to Kevin today, I kind of still feel that way."
Martinez underwent a followup MRI on his knee Thursday in Colorado, where he had the microfracture surgery late in the offseason. The results on the knee looked positive. The delay is in his leg strength.
"From a stability standpoint, his knee looks great," Rand said. "But at this point in time, his single-leg strength on that side isn't where it needs to be to begin running at this point. So he's going to go through a single-leg strengthening program."
That program will take up all of July. If that goes well, Martinez will begin a running program in August while gradually picking up baseball activities. That, too, will take up the bulk of the month.
Jason Beck
ST. PETERSBURG -- The good news on Victor Martinez's left knee is that it's healing fine for him to fully recover. The bad news for some Tigers fans who got their hopes up is that he won't be recovering in time for an August return.
Any return this year sounds more like the tail end of the regular season.
"Our best-case scenario for him would be a return sometime probably in mid- to late-September, at best," head athletic trainer Kevin Rand said.
That's exactly what was originally projected when Dr. Richard Steadman, the specialist who performed his microfracture knee surgery, determined Martinez wouldn't need a second surgery to repair his anterior cruciate ligament. It just wasn't what some had been built up to hope for.
Manager Jim Leyland, for one, has stuck with his original timetable.
"I came into the season thinking that if we had Victor at all this year, it would be a bonus," Leyland said. "That's just the way I kind of looked at it. After talking to Kevin today, I kind of still feel that way."
Martinez underwent a followup MRI on his knee Thursday in Colorado, where he had the microfracture surgery late in the offseason. The results on the knee looked positive. The delay is in his leg strength.
"From a stability standpoint, his knee looks great," Rand said. "But at this point in time, his single-leg strength on that side isn't where it needs to be to begin running at this point. So he's going to go through a single-leg strengthening program."
That program will take up all of July. If that goes well, Martinez will begin a running program in August while gradually picking up baseball activities. That, too, will take up the bulk of the month.
Jason Beck
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Nice win, but too bad the Sux caught a couple of breaks and stole a win against NY.
I saw that one of the umps for Detroit's game last night was Dan Bellino. He's actually a former student of mine! He needed to finish his MBA, but was umping AAA ball, so I had to structure an independent study accounting class for him to complete while on the road.
I saw that one of the umps for Detroit's game last night was Dan Bellino. He's actually a former student of mine! He needed to finish his MBA, but was umping AAA ball, so I had to structure an independent study accounting class for him to complete while on the road.
skillz
Footballguy
Absolutely thrilled with the 5-5 road trip. Odd that they take every game vs. Tampa except the game JV pitched. Tigers need to take care of business now vs. Minnesota and KC to get some more momentum going into the All-Star break. 5-2 would be a nice homestand before the break. Porcello has been great his last three starts, Max is pitching well, and the bullpen has been solid. Hopefully Fister can get his act together. Austin Jackson continues to rake - if he didn't miss those games due to injury I am sure he'd have been on the All-Star team as well.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
I do like some of the good signs of late, but I wish they'd move DYoung ...where innings go to die.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Tiger all-stars: 3
Former Tiger all-stars: 2
Former Tiger all-stars: 2
skillz
Footballguy
As much as people slam Delmon Young, I don't see any better options on the roster right now than him. So, the team is stuck with him through this season. Maybe once Dirks comes back (whenever that may be) Delmon gets his at bats reduced, but when we still have the likes of Raburn and Boesch as other OF/DH options Delmon is still a player that should be in the mix.For some reason Boesch gets a pass on his piss poor play this season despite being the same kind of hitter as Delmon is. If anything, Boesch has been worse than Delmon this year. Young 273 AB .268 AVG .296 OBP .681 OBP 8 BB 56 K 6 HR 30 RBI Boesch 284 AB .232 AVG .269 OBP .618 OBP 12 BB 55 K 7 HR 27 RBI Boesch has never been able to take a walk or hit for contact to save his life and that hasn't changed for 3 years. Seems like the MLB pitchers have figured him out and he can't adjust. I am more frustrated with his performance than Delmon's at this point.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
I might consider platooning both at DH and starting Dirks in RF when he returns.
skillz
Footballguy
That makes sense - unfortunately I doubt Leyland's brain will work that way. He'll probably put Berry back on the bench.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Another thing they could do is put Avila/Laird @ #5, Avila has been hitting better lately & Laird has hit well this year.
Last edited by a moderator:
MAC_32
Footballguy
Raburn's starting his annual 2nd half rise as he's hitting .323 since returning raising his avg from .146 to .182. I'd like to see him in there everyday at the expense of Boesch. Delmon can certainly hold up the left handed end of the platoon, Boesch's career numbers suggest he should be better vs. righties. At least give it a shot and at the very least get his brutal glove out of right field. If he still isn't doing it then demote him when Dirks comes back and see if he can figure it out in Toledo.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
It just wouldn't be fantasy baseball if I didn't have a Tigers pitcher on my team driving me ####### nuts
#fistersucks
#fistersucks
Gopher State
Footballguy
who the hell is Liam Hendriks and how do the tigers not shell him out?
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Just heard on The Ticket yesterday that Dirks is still in a walking boot and nowhere near ready to return.
Gopher State
Footballguy
LHP Duane Below will start Tuesday night in place of injured RHP Max Scherzer, who hurt a hamstring jogging on the Tropicana Field turf this past weekend. Below has been used out of the bullpen all season. His last appearance was June 27, when he threw 41 pitches in 2 2/3 innings, allowing two runs on four hits. Below's longest outing was six innings, but that was on April 21 when he threw 68 pitches. "We're hoping that he can give us four innings and give us a shot to win the game," manager Jim Leyland said.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
Uh oh....Below. I'm guessing $23 Million Dollar Mauer Power goes 2 for 3 and scores a run. And $14 million dollar Morneau goes 0-4, forgets where he is, and pisses his pants.
Gopher State
Footballguy
maybe the Twins can trade Morneau to the tigers, Morneau and young would make a good set of bookends for the tigers
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
No room for Morneau, he couldn't find his way to Michigan anyway....head too fuzzy. But undoubtedly the Tigers will drop some players in the offseason so the Twins can gobble them up onto their roster. They love grabbing Detroit's scraps.
Similar threads
