Limp Ditka
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What, you worry?How did yours #######?Speaking of aces, how'd your's fare tonight?Your Sux got smashed tonight ace.
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Doctor Detroit
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They said it was inconclusive. One of the Tiger followers on twitter says he has a screen capture showing the ball visible in fair territory with the foul poll in the background. What a terrible way to lose a game fair or foul, dammit.
Terrible at bat by Cabrera in the 9th with AJAX on third, you don't see that very often. Poor Delmon Young, guy takes my abuse all year and finally comes through with a big hit and the umps call it foul. See what happens when you hate on Jews?
Terrible at bat by Cabrera in the 9th with AJAX on third, you don't see that very often. Poor Delmon Young, guy takes my abuse all year and finally comes through with a big hit and the umps call it foul. See what happens when you hate on Jews?
Limp Ditka
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Doctor Detroit
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I watched the two angles of replay 100 times each. It needs to be blown up frame by frame and when I did that it looked foul on the closer angle until the point where it is almost just past the foul poll where it seems like it may have been blinded by the yellow hue as the image is blended and white. On the farther angle it looks fair every time, ball disappears and I blew it up.
Inconclusive, maybe they got it right because if they had called it a HR I think it was a HR. They called it foul so it was foul. Even if we get proof it was fair how mad can you be? Seems like the ball was both fair AND foul, just another punch in the face from the 2012 Detroit Tigers.
Had this happened in 2008 I would have driven to KC and punched someone. Now it's just par for the course.
I'll be at the Erie game again tomorrow, that is a NO stress environment. I don't care if Erie wins at all, just there to see some future Tigers throw it around. Also found my Ray Burris (Erie Pitching coach) card when he had that great afro, will try to get it autographed and I'll post here.
Inconclusive, maybe they got it right because if they had called it a HR I think it was a HR. They called it foul so it was foul. Even if we get proof it was fair how mad can you be? Seems like the ball was both fair AND foul, just another punch in the face from the 2012 Detroit Tigers.
Had this happened in 2008 I would have driven to KC and punched someone. Now it's just par for the course.
I'll be at the Erie game again tomorrow, that is a NO stress environment. I don't care if Erie wins at all, just there to see some future Tigers throw it around. Also found my Ray Burris (Erie Pitching coach) card when he had that great afro, will try to get it autographed and I'll post here.
Da Guru
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The thing is that Delmon drove the ball hard on the next pitch good enough to be a double it it were down the line or in the gap. About the HR..I was sure it would be ruled a HR. From the foul side it looked gone, but from the fair side it looked foul at the last second. Young had a great view and did not seem too upset over the ball being called foul.
Doctor Detroit
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Avisail hit a ball to Cleveland tonight, three run shot with first base open. The catcher came to the mound to talk with the pitcher as well and the way Erie hits as a team (three or less runs in 67 games), not sure why they didn't just walk Garcia. He had a long drive to deep center later and also a single. In another bat he hit a chopper between SS and 3B and the SS quickly backhanded the ball and threw to first. Garcia was called out but was probably safe, I mean for a guy that big he can really move. When he hits the ball the bat sounds different, sounds like a major league bat hit it. Completely impressed with him, I think he was the best position player on either team in both these games.Castellanos had two more K's tonight but did drive a ball that I thought was gone to RCF. The Bowie CF made a terrific catch running into the wall and if there had been a little humidity that ball would have been gone. He had a single as well but I still think he's a ways off. He needs to add some weight to his frame and just get some more time hitting pitches off 23 year olds. They better not call him up next week (doubtful because he's not on 40 man). McCann had two nice hits, Douglas the 2Bman is really the only other position player worth mentioning...thought he was pretty good in both games. Wesson pitched tonight and didn't look too shabby, Robbie Weinhardt was warming in the pen but never came in. I did not get Ray Burress' autograph because he didn't come out of the bullpen until gametime and it was too late. Did get Nick's, Avisail's and Fields autographs on a Tigers ball that had been sitting in my office. Some guy brought Nick a ball and said it was one that he had hit the night before. Nick said, "well I didn't hit a ball last night."Went to watch Erie tonight. Bowie (Orioles) had their top pitching prospect Dylan Bundy on the mound so it was a good chance to look at three of the Tigers top 10 prospects. RF Nick Castellanoslayed RF and looked decent out there. Made one play going to the gap where I thought he was going to get ate up and he handeled it nicely. Really obvious he's new out there though, I'll just say that.At the plate he was categorically awful. I was sitting in first row in on-deck circle so I had a good view. He K'd all four times up, fouling away just three pitches in those at bats. He's very thin and Bundy's 98 mph fastball was too much for him. He's not ready to be called up and I already knew this but tonight proved it. He's 20 years old and even though it's just one game, he has work to do with his physique, in the outfield and at the plate. Hopefully tomorrow against a lesser starter I'll see him connect on something. C James McCann:He has struggled at Erie and tonight was no different. He had a walk which I thought was a good at bat, but the other at bats weren't good at all and he looks like the .180 he's hitting. Behind the plate he was sharp. He short-hopped the SS with two throws on steal attempts, both should have been dug out and the tag applied. He threw out one and the two he didn't would have been out had the SS been able to handle them. This guy is a couple of years out, maybe a full year in Erie next year will be enough but he does look like a decent defensive catcher.CF Avisail Garcia: Erie is a pretty bad team, there isn't a lot to love. This guy is the exception, holy moly. In the first inning he took off into the RCF gap on a sinking flyball and a runner on second. He made the catch in very deep RCF, pivoted and fired the ball on one hop to 3B barely missing a fast runner.
First at bat he hit a line drive single. After getting to second he went on a 3-1 pitch (no one on first) and the hitter swung at ball four. Well he would have easily stolen third, very impressive for a kid this size. Second at bat a hard hit ball to CF, out. Third at bat he hit a ####### missile over the third baseman's head. It was no more than five feet over the 3BMans head, maybe less. fans around me wondered why the guy didn't jump. Well he didn't jump because the ball was hit so hard and got to him so fast, that it wouldn't have mattered. If he had hit that in the show maybe, maybe a great 3Bman would have had it but it would have had to have been perfect timing and a great leap. I mean he just smoked that ball. Later in the 7th or 8th he ran down a ball in RCF that I think the Bowie fans thought was a sure hit. My buddy who goes to all the Bowie games and is intimately familiar with the Eastern League said he thought Garcia was one of the best CFers he's seen all year. Garcia is gonna play RF in the majors but at 6'4" 240 he can really move. Not much else to report, Douglas is pretty decent at 2B but this team really lacks talent. Jordan Lennerton is having a really nice year but he's 26 now, he's probably not going to make much of an impact above Toledo.
He actually had three fouls like I said above, that was it but good sense of humor. Fields is a Detroit kid, seemed like a nice guy. Avisail got irritated when one of these collector tyes had him sign 8 ####### baseball cards in a binder, I don't blame him. Those #######s ruin the damn autograph process for little kids all the time, ridiculous. Tigers stink, Bruce Chen always dominates them like he was Steve Carlton. Not sure how long the shutout streak was but it was pretty long. Great AB by Delmon in the 9th, three pitches and a K. Dumb team scores eight last night and can't get any tonight, both losses. Sanchez was great though, I guess that's the glass is half full angle.
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I read that Castellanos is hitting .400 against lefties. That's ..something.
Yes, good to see our pitching last night, but ending with two K's with two on is inexcusable. Stinkin' Sux bring up a guy who pitches a great game, then they send him back to Double A ball.
Series against the Sux is looking real big.
Yes, good to see our pitching last night, but ending with two K's with two on is inexcusable. Stinkin' Sux bring up a guy who pitches a great game, then they send him back to Double A ball.
Series against the Sux is looking real big.
Leroy Hoard
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IF they called him up, a BB/NC platoon in right field with Berry as a late inning defense/pinch runner replacement?
Ghandi
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Elimination number is 31. Sox can go 19-14 and win the division if the Tigers go 20-13. Tigers best go 25-8.
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Da Guru
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Tigers are not capable of going 25-8. Tonight looks like the first must win game of the season.
Ghandi
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The must wins are 5 of the 7 v. the Sox, at a minimum...
Doctor Detroit
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Your math is only slightly better than Jeff Baker.
Doctor Detroit
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Well the pitching isn't the problem. Boesch is just awful, I think they need to go back to Berry and just sit Boesch for a week or more.
Porcello good again, not sure what else to say. They could have won all three games and we wouldn't have had to face Ghandi's magic number shtick, his head might explode if the Tigers ever tie the White Sox for first. Then the Tigers would only have to go 18-6 to win the division.
Porcello good again, not sure what else to say. They could have won all three games and we wouldn't have had to face Ghandi's magic number shtick, his head might explode if the Tigers ever tie the White Sox for first. Then the Tigers would only have to go 18-6 to win the division.
Da Guru
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Miggy slowed down on the game ending DP. Even Rod Allen said "Did Miggy stop running?" Miggy started out fast and saw it was going to be a quick DP and slowed a bit in the middle..then when things got messed up at second he tried to kick it up again and was out by a 1/2 step. A fitting end.
Doctor Detroit
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He makes me miss Raburn
Leroy Hoard
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I know it's not right to rush guys but can we bring up Nick just for lefties?
MAC_32
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I think 20 wins could do it if we take 4 or more from the Sux, would feel better with 21 or 22 but I don't think this team has it in them. Thankfully the Sux arms are struggling like tri-man called, might be able to win this "fight" afterall.
Doctor Detroit
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He's not on the 40 man roster so they would have to make a roster move, which is unlikely based on the consequences of doing so. Not that three games is any kind of great sample size, but he just isn't ready IMO. 8 Ks in a three games vs Bowie on Tue-Thur and 73 Ks in 325 PAs at Erie. A .706 OPS shows he's had some difficulty with the transition from High A to Erie which is completely normal for a 20 year-old kid. I think we need to find an other option from within, we just don't have a lot of position prospects and making sure they are properly handled coming up is critical. No reason to kill his confidence for what might be a fruitless chase. Have expectations ruined the season for Tigers fans
My answer was this: Unearned runs allowed, questionable baserunning and incredibly inconsistent hitting have ruined the season for Tigers fans, not expectations.
Not sure how big a difference one player makes but I think not having VMART was huge this year. So many times Delmon or anyone else in that #5 hole have come to the plate with a RISP and/or Miggy and Fielder standing out there and the rally is over.
Raburn is a great September hitter, he might provide the spark this lineup needs. We have to cut ties with him after the season though, enough is enough. Boesch needs to go see a psychiatrist, not another hitting coach.
Leroy Hoard
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Ghandi
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I agree with the bolded part. I think the Tigers need 5 wins against the White Sox, (fixed your typos) do have any real chance.
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Doctor Detroit
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Creating an alias to only post in the baseball forum is unprecedented.
Ghandi
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I've never been accused of being original.
MAC_32
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Didn't realize the Sux schedule was as easy as the Tigers, both of us get the Angels but outside of that not an unbearable schedule. You get the Rays, we get the A's, everything else is a mirror image. Yea, we need 5 of 7. Good thing pitching matchups line up well this weekend...
Leroy Hoard
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At least he doesn't sign out with "peace".
Limp Ditka
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He seems like a peaceful fellow though.
Ghandi
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Peace is its own reward.
Doctor Detroit
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Juan Pierre cleared waivers
DO IT
DO IT
MAC_32
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MAC_32
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Have read the defense stuff too, don't think the bat is ready though. Would have rather pitched an offer for Pierre and send a guy in A ball.
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teamramrod
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peace
teamramrod
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as every military spouse that watches their other half walk off the plane and come home will tell you. It is.Peace
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Doctor Detroit
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The next time Dirks isn't in the line-up, I'm going to Detroit just to punch Leyland in the smoke muscle.
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Doctor Detroit
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Trivia answer is the human roller coaster, Todd Jones.
teamramrod
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Any time people complain about Valverde, I bring up Gas Can Jonespeace
Doctor Detroit
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So Leyland starts Cabrera at 3B even though he can barely walk to make sure Delmon got in the lineup at DH.
####### genius I tell you.
####### genius I tell you.
Doctor Detroit
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Jeff Baker traded to Atlanta. Good riddance.
Doctor Detroit
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Any question that Scherzer is the #2?
Doctor Detroit
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Avila is so bad right now, they walked Boesch to pitch to him.
No, Scherzer has stepped it up bigtime this year.
Don't understand doing this experiment at such a critical situation.
Doctor Detroit
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2 walks and a wild pitch. I liked the idea until he walked Wise which is pretty ridiculous. No problem with the Dunn at bat, he tried everything to get him out and Dunn worked him.
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