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[Leroy Hoard]

One less whipping boy?:

Hopefully. I'd take an extra arm in the bullpen for him. Plus he seems to have an attitude problem for no good reason. Get him out of here. For as much as you guys hated Delmon Young last year, I hated Boesch.

This team is at least doing addition thru subtraction. Inge-Raburn-Young-Valverde-Boesch all gone.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

One less whipping boy?:

Hopefully. I'd take an extra arm in the bullpen for him. Plus he seems to have an attitude problem for no good reason. Get him out of here. For as much as you guys hated Delmon Young last year, I hated Boesch.

This team is at least doing addition thru subtraction. Inge-Raburn-Young-Valverde-Boesch all gone.

another lefty in the pen for BB sounds good to meroll with Dirks/Ajx/Hunter in the OF.

 

[Da Guru]

One less whipping boy?:

Hopefully. I'd take an extra arm in the bullpen for him. Plus he seems to have an attitude problem for no good reason. Get him out of here. For as much as you guys hated Delmon Young last year, I hated Boesch.

This team is at least doing addition thru subtraction. Inge-Raburn-Young-Valverde-Boesch all gone.

Add Don Kelly to that group....clean house of all the trash.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

One less whipping boy?:

Hopefully. I'd take an extra arm in the bullpen for him. Plus he seems to have an attitude problem for no good reason. Get him out of here. For as much as you guys hated Delmon Young last year, I hated Boesch.

This team is at least doing addition thru subtraction. Inge-Raburn-Young-Valverde-Boesch all gone.

Add Don Kelly to that group....clean house of all the trash.

I think they will add at least one more FA outfielder unless Garcia and/or Nick C. start the year out up here.

 

[Da Guru]

Six teams are interested in Ryan Raburn in including the Braves, Marlins and Rangers.....in that Texas heat he could be deadly.

 

[skillz]

Six teams are interested in Ryan Raburn in including the Braves, Marlins and Rangers.....in that Texas heat he could be deadly.

Maybe the Rangers want to use him as a human fan. All the swings and misses he provides at the plate would allow him to cool down the crowd on a hot summer day.

 

[jon_mx]

Supposedly the Tigers are looking at Asdrubal Cabrera.

 

[Da Guru]

Supposedly the Tigers are looking at Asdrubal Cabrera.

Should have signed Melky too. Batting order could have been.A-JaxCabreraCabreraCabrera

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Supposedly the Tigers are looking at Asdrubal Cabrera.

So another SS with limited range? Cabrera also is lazy by all accounts although the guy can rake when he's motivated and right.

 

[Bogart]

Supposedly the Tigers are looking at Asdrubal Cabrera.

Should have signed Melky too. Batting order could have been.A-JaxCabreraCabreraCabrera

This would have made for entertaining box scores.

 

[Da Guru]

Bye bye Danny..we hardly knew ye.

DETROIT - The Detroit Tigers said Friday the club will not tender lefthanded pitcher Daniel Schlereth a contract for the 2013 season.

Schlereth compiled a 10.29 ERA (7.0IP/8ER) in six appearances with the Tigers during the 2012 season before landing on the disabled list for the remainder of the season on April 21 with left shoulder tendinitis.

 

[Eephus]

Bye bye Danny..we hardly knew ye.DETROIT - The Detroit Tigers said Friday the club will not tender lefthanded pitcher Daniel Schlereth a contract for the 2013 season.Schlereth compiled a 10.29 ERA (7.0IP/8ER) in six appearances with the Tigers during the 2012 season before landing on the disabled list for the remainder of the season on April 21 with left shoulder tendinitis.

The answer to the Final Jeopardy question "How bad do you have to be to get non-tendered when you're only making $500,000?"

 

[Da Guru]

Bye bye Danny..we hardly knew ye.DETROIT - The Detroit Tigers said Friday the club will not tender lefthanded pitcher Daniel Schlereth a contract for the 2013 season.Schlereth compiled a 10.29 ERA (7.0IP/8ER) in six appearances with the Tigers during the 2012 season before landing on the disabled list for the remainder of the season on April 21 with left shoulder tendinitis.

The answer to the Final Jeopardy question "How bad do you have to be to get non-tendered when you're only making $500,000?"

What was his WAR? Any replacement would have had a higher WAR.

 

[Eephus]

Bye bye Danny..we hardly knew ye.DETROIT - The Detroit Tigers said Friday the club will not tender lefthanded pitcher Daniel Schlereth a contract for the 2013 season.Schlereth compiled a 10.29 ERA (7.0IP/8ER) in six appearances with the Tigers during the 2012 season before landing on the disabled list for the remainder of the season on April 21 with left shoulder tendinitis.

The answer to the Final Jeopardy question "How bad do you have to be to get non-tendered when you're only making $500,000?"

What was his WAR? Any replacement would have had a higher WAR.

His LBR was exceptional

 

[jon_mx]

Bye bye Danny..we hardly knew ye.DETROIT - The Detroit Tigers said Friday the club will not tender lefthanded pitcher Daniel Schlereth a contract for the 2013 season.Schlereth compiled a 10.29 ERA (7.0IP/8ER) in six appearances with the Tigers during the 2012 season before landing on the disabled list for the remainder of the season on April 21 with left shoulder tendinitis.

The answer to the Final Jeopardy question "How bad do you have to be to get non-tendered when you're only making $500,000?"

What was his WAR? Any replacement would have had a higher WAR.

His LBR was exceptional

Wouldn't fewer loses be a good thing?

 

[jon_mx]

Supposedly the Tigers are looking at Asdrubal Cabrera.

So another SS with limited range? Cabrera also is lazy by all accounts although the guy can rake when he's motivated and right.

None of the guys they are looking at would be worth the move. Peralta plays good enough during the season and can elevate his game when needed. It does not make sense to make a move simply for the sake of making a move.

 

[Da Guru]

Bye bye Danny..we hardly knew ye.DETROIT - The Detroit Tigers said Friday the club will not tender lefthanded pitcher Daniel Schlereth a contract for the 2013 season.Schlereth compiled a 10.29 ERA (7.0IP/8ER) in six appearances with the Tigers during the 2012 season before landing on the disabled list for the remainder of the season on April 21 with left shoulder tendinitis.

The answer to the Final Jeopardy question "How bad do you have to be to get non-tendered when you're only making $500,000?"

What was his WAR? Any replacement would have had a higher WAR.

His LBR was exceptional

Loogy at best.

 

[Eephus]

Bye bye Danny..we hardly knew ye.DETROIT - The Detroit Tigers said Friday the club will not tender lefthanded pitcher Daniel Schlereth a contract for the 2013 season.Schlereth compiled a 10.29 ERA (7.0IP/8ER) in six appearances with the Tigers during the 2012 season before landing on the disabled list for the remainder of the season on April 21 with left shoulder tendinitis.

The answer to the Final Jeopardy question "How bad do you have to be to get non-tendered when you're only making $500,000?"

What was his WAR? Any replacement would have had a higher WAR.

His LBR was exceptional

Wouldn't fewer loses be a good thing?

Good point. LBR is the new market inefficiency

 

[whoknew]

Rumors are the Tigers have offered a 2 year contract to Scott Hairston.

I just don't get it, man. He has a career .300 OBP. What's the point? He's Delmon with less power and better fielding. That's really the best we can do if you want to platoon with Dirks??

ETA: PLUS - no Hairston should ever wear the Tiger uniform.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Rumors are the Tigers have offered a 2 year contract to Scott Hairston.I just don't get it, man. He has a career .300 OBP. What's the point? He's Delmon with less power and better fielding. That's really the best we can do if you want to platoon with Dirks??ETA: PLUS - no Hairston should ever wear the Tiger uniform.

.276/.325/.500/.825 career vs LHP .307/.341/.483/.824 Delmon career vs LHPThe difference of course is Hairston plays all three OF positions. I think this is a very good add as a #4 OFer, platoon with Dirks.

 

[whoknew]

Rumors are the Tigers have offered a 2 year contract to Scott Hairston.I just don't get it, man. He has a career .300 OBP. What's the point? He's Delmon with less power and better fielding. That's really the best we can do if you want to platoon with Dirks??ETA: PLUS - no Hairston should ever wear the Tiger uniform.

.276/.325/.500/.825 career vs LHP .307/.341/.483/.824 Delmon career vs LHPThe difference of course is Hairston plays all three OF positions. I think this is a very good add as a #4 OFer, platoon with Dirks.

Ok - fair point. If he never plays against righties, it may not be terrible. He could be an ok platoon partner (though it still seems like there should be a better option out there). But - you are ignoring the Hairston angle. I can never root for him, even if he is a Tiger.

 

[MAC_32]

Rumors are the Tigers have offered a 2 year contract to Scott Hairston.I just don't get it, man. He has a career .300 OBP. What's the point? He's Delmon with less power and better fielding. That's really the best we can do if you want to platoon with Dirks??ETA: PLUS - no Hairston should ever wear the Tiger uniform.

.276/.325/.500/.825 career vs LHP .307/.341/.483/.824 Delmon career vs LHPThe difference of course is Hairston plays all three OF positions. I think this is a very good add as a #4 OFer, platoon with Dirks.

VERY VERY This tells me we have a trade for Boesch basically finalized.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Rumors are the Tigers have offered a 2 year contract to Scott Hairston.I just don't get it, man. He has a career .300 OBP. What's the point? He's Delmon with less power and better fielding. That's really the best we can do if you want to platoon with Dirks??ETA: PLUS - no Hairston should ever wear the Tiger uniform.

.276/.325/.500/.825 career vs LHP .307/.341/.483/.824 Delmon career vs LHPThe difference of course is Hairston plays all three OF positions. I think this is a very good add as a #4 OFer, platoon with Dirks.

Ok - fair point. If he never plays against righties, it may not be terrible. He could be an ok platoon partner (though it still seems like there should be a better option out there). But - you are ignoring the Hairston angle. I can never root for him, even if he is a Tiger.

lolYeah I looked at his numbers a few weeks ago as I too thought WTF? But as a #4 guy he has flexibility and he really is a decent option vs LHP which we always can use. Now can we sign Sean Burnett? I still think Anibal is a long shot.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Just read on Rotoworld that Hairston saying thanks but no thanks.

 

[whoknew]

Rumors are the Tigers have offered a 2 year contract to Scott Hairston.

I just don't get it, man. He has a career .300 OBP. What's the point? He's Delmon with less power and better fielding. That's really the best we can do if you want to platoon with Dirks??

ETA: PLUS - no Hairston should ever wear the Tiger uniform.

.276/.325/.500/.825 career vs LHP .307/.341/.483/.824 Delmon career vs LHP

The difference of course is Hairston plays all three OF positions. I think this is a very good add as a #4 OFer, platoon with Dirks.

Ok - fair point. If he never plays against righties, it may not be terrible. He could be an ok platoon partner (though it still seems like there should be a better option out there).

But - you are ignoring the Hairston angle. I can never root for him, even if he is a Tiger.

lolYeah I looked at his numbers a few weeks ago as I too thought WTF? But as a #4 guy he has flexibility and he really is a decent option vs LHP which we always can use.

Now can we sign Sean Burnett? I still think Anibal is a long shot.

That would be a nice signing. I'm worried Illitch is going to give Soriano a 3 year/$45 million deal.

 

[Da Guru]

Rumors are the Tigers have offered a 2 year contract to Scott Hairston.

I just don't get it, man. He has a career .300 OBP. What's the point? He's Delmon with less power and better fielding. That's really the best we can do if you want to platoon with Dirks??

ETA: PLUS - no Hairston should ever wear the Tiger uniform.

.276/.325/.500/.825 career vs LHP .307/.341/.483/.824 Delmon career vs LHP

The difference of course is Hairston plays all three OF positions. I think this is a very good add as a #4 OFer, platoon with Dirks.

Ok - fair point. If he never plays against righties, it may not be terrible. He could be an ok platoon partner (though it still seems like there should be a better option out there).

But - you are ignoring the Hairston angle. I can never root for him, even if he is a Tiger.

lolYeah I looked at his numbers a few weeks ago as I too thought WTF? But as a #4 guy he has flexibility and he really is a decent option vs LHP which we always can use.

Now can we sign Sean Burnett? I still think Anibal is a long shot.

That would be a nice signing. I'm worried Illitch is going to give Soriano a 3 year/$45 million deal.

Sanchez rejected 4 years for 48 million. Probably would have taken that as an extension when the Tigers traded for him. Wants 6-90 million. Also said the Tigers have no interest in Hairston.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

BEST OFFSEASON NEWS TO DATE!!!!!!!!!!!

Spoiler

Tom Brookens will coach third base! :woot:

 

[Limp Ditka]

Hoping for a :neifi: sighting

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Hoping for a :neifi: sighting

1 Diciembre 2012, 05:17 PM Santo Domingo, DR

Al agradecer la dedicatoria del torneo, el empresario Lorenzo Gómez dijo que “la Liga Deportiva Escuela Enrique -Quique- Cruz debe sentirse orgullosa al cumplir casi un cuarto de siglo sembrando disciplina y desarrollo integral en niños, adolescentes y jóvenes.”

Afirmó que la Liga Quique Cruz es pionera en impartir los mejores valores entre sus miembros.

“Hoy en día abundan muchas ligas parecidas, que han tomado el modelo de esta liga, pero lo que diferencia enormemente a la Enrique Cruz es que aquí se aplican los principios filosóficos, conceptos, valores e integridad. Esta institución sirve de inspiración a otras ligas que hoy en día lo hacen, y eso es bueno,” manifestó.

El homenajeado, quien dijo estar emocionado y extrañado por la dedicatoria del torneo a su persona, sostuvo que la Liga Escuela Enrique Cruz es una excelente plataforma para los niños aprender a ganar, y a perder. Sostuvo “esa es la razón por la que por 24 años sus directivos siembran, cuidan y cosechan.”.

La liga fue fundada por el hoy inmortal del deporte dominicano Enrique -Quique- Cruz y su esposa Elvira Rodríguez de Cruz, ex-selecciones nacionales de béisbol y softbol, respectivamente.

Resaltó el valor de Cruz y Rodríguez por dedicarle el campeonato. “Estoy emocionado, pero extrañado por el valor que tuvieron Quique y Elvira honrando con la dedicatoria de su torneo a uno de sus allegados más cercanos,” argumentó Gómez Marín, quien dijo recordar como hoy el nacimiento de la liga hace 24 años.

El empresario recibió una placa de parte de los esposos Cruz-Rodríguez, de la hija de éstos Carolina y de los ex jugadores de la liga José Leger, Ricardo Nanita, Enrique Cruz Jr y Juan Carlos Gómez. Los peloteros Erick Almonte, Ramón Santiago y ex jugador Neifi Pérez también asistieron a la inauguración.

Pick the translation you like best:The employer received a plate of part of Cruz-rodriguez spouses, the daughter of these Carolina and former players of the League José Léger, Ricardo Nanita, Enrique Cruz Jr. and Juan Carlos Gómez. Erick Almonte, Ramón Santiago and former player Neifi Pérez dung also attended the inauguration.

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The businessman received a badge on behalf of the husbands Cruz-Rodríguez, the daughter of these Carolina and of the ex-players of the league José Leger, Ricardo Nanita, Enrique Cruz Jr and Juan Carlos Gómez. The peloteros Erick Almonte, Ramón Santiago and ex-player Neifi Pérez also were present at the opening.

 

[jon_mx]

BEST OFFSEASON NEWS TO DATE!!!!!!!!!!!

Spoiler

Tom Brookens will coach third base! :woot:

WAR +4 move

 

[Leroy Hoard]

BEST OFFSEASON NEWS TO DATE!!!!!!!!!!!

Spoiler

Tom Brookens will coach third base! :woot:

WAR +4 moveWEIGHT -100 move

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Had to copy this post over from the comments line @ mlive:

Fishbulb:

"From the dugout, Lamont mistakenly ushered players into a supply closet and not through the door leading to the clubhouse. Leyland, through mouthfuls of food, called it an aggressive move. "I've been around a long time and can tell you there is a lot to do in a supply closet. Lots of important stuff in there...mops, wrenches, extension cords. It didn't work this time, but I can tell you there will be a time when the players will need some supplies and that will be the right move." Then he resumed stroking McClendon's head, which was laying in his lap."

 

[tri-man 47]

Had to copy this post over from the comments line @ mlive:Fishbulb:"From the dugout, Lamont mistakenly ushered players into a supply closet and not through the door leading to the clubhouse. Leyland, through mouthfuls of food, called it an aggressive move. "I've been around a long time and can tell you there is a lot to do in a supply closet. Lots of important stuff in there...mops, wrenches, extension cords. It didn't work this time, but I can tell you there will be a time when the players will need some supplies and that will be the right move." Then he resumed stroking McClendon's head, which was laying in his lap."

 

[jon_mx]

Had to copy this post over from the comments line @ mlive:Fishbulb:"From the dugout, Lamont mistakenly ushered players into a supply closet and not through the door leading to the clubhouse. Leyland, through mouthfuls of food, called it an aggressive move. "I've been around a long time and can tell you there is a lot to do in a supply closet. Lots of important stuff in there...mops, wrenches, extension cords. It didn't work this time, but I can tell you there will be a time when the players will need some supplies and that will be the right move." Then he resumed stroking McClendon's head, which was laying in his lap."

I love how Leyland assured us this move was not based on performance

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Had to copy this post over from the comments line @ mlive:Fishbulb:"From the dugout, Lamont mistakenly ushered players into a supply closet and not through the door leading to the clubhouse. Leyland, through mouthfuls of food, called it an aggressive move. "I've been around a long time and can tell you there is a lot to do in a supply closet. Lots of important stuff in there...mops, wrenches, extension cords. It didn't work this time, but I can tell you there will be a time when the players will need some supplies and that will be the right move." Then he resumed stroking McClendon's head, which was laying in his lap."

 

[whoknew]

Detroit Tigers @tigers

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#Tigers have acquired C Ramon Cabrera from Pirates for LHP Andy Oliver.

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I don't know anything about Ramon Cabrera. Anyone?

 

[Eephus]

Detroit Tigers @tigers ·More#Tigers have acquired C Ramon Cabrera from Pirates for LHP Andy Oliver.--I don't know anything about Ramon Cabrera. Anyone?

Nice concise analysis from John Sickels

The Pittsburgh Pirates and Detroit Tigers made a prospect-for-prospect trade this evening. Detroit sent left-handed pitcher Andrew Oliver to Pittsburgh, in exchange for catcher Ramon Cabrera. Here's the scoop.Ramon Cabrera, C: The Pirates signed Cabrera out of Venezuela in 2008. He emerged as an intriguing prospect by hitting .343/.410/.471 for High-A Bradenton in 2011, but he saw his offense decline after a promotion to Double-A Altoona in 2012, where he hit .276/.342/.367. Overall, he is a .292/.360/.400 career hitter in the Pirates organization. Cabrera is a 5-8, 195 pound switch-hitter, born November 5, 1989. His home run power is quite limited, but he's a skilled contact hitter who controls the strike zone reasonably well. He is a good receiver with impressive mobility, and he has a good reputation as a field general, but his arm is weak and he has thrown out just 22% of runners in his career. He profiles as a solid backup catcher. Andrew Oliver, LHP: The Tigers drafted Oliver in the second round of the 2009 draft, out of Oklahoma State University. He has spent the last two seasons pitching for Triple-A Toledo in the International League, with spotty results. He posted a 4.71 ERA with a 143/80 K/BB in 147 innings in 2011, and a 4.88 ERA with a 112/88 K/BB in 118 innings in 2012. He also made five starts for the Tigers in the major leagues in '11 and two more in '12, resulting in an 0-5 record, a 7.11 ERA, and a 23/21 K/BB in 32 innings. Oliver is a well-built 6-3, 210 pound southpaw, born December 3rd, 1987. There's nothing wrong with his fastball: he can hit the mid-90s, but his control is unreliable and he's had persistent problems with his secondary pitches. He's made some progress with his changeup, but his slider remains more of an idea than a workable out-pitch. This is strange, since he threw a very good curveball in college, but he lost the touch on the bender a couple of years ago and hasn't been able to get it back, or develop something new to replace it. Oliver still has good arm strength and seems like he would benefit from a change of scenery.

 

[whoknew]

The Tigers just picked up Jeff Kobernus in the Rule 5 draft. Apparently, he is a middle infielder.

This seems strange to me - I mean, the Tigers are a World Series contender. And they are going to carry a Rule 5 guy?

I guess this means the end of Santiago.

ETA: They also got LHP Kyle Lobstein.

I mean ... ok.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

A couple of small moves setting up a BLOCKBUSTER?

 

[scrumptrulescent]

A couple of small moves setting up a BLOCKBUSTER?

CastellanosBoeschSmylyfor Giancarlo Stanton

 

[MAC_32]

A couple of small moves setting up a BLOCKBUSTER?

Hope not, we need to replenish the farm system. I like what we've done so far, still hoping we find a buyer for Boesch, even if the return is just a B level single A prospect.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Re-up Mad Max with an affordable 4 to 5 year deal

Find another reliever to possibly compete with Benoit and Rondon for the closer spot

Sign a vet starter to a one year deal

Forget about Dirty Sanchez, too much money

 

[whoknew]

So if Greinke is worth 6/$145 - what is JV going to cost?

 

[scoobus]

So if Greinke is worth 6/$145 - what is JV going to cost?

 

[jon_mx]

The Togers will make a deal for a closer and I think that will be the only major move they make. It is still possible they open up the checkbook for Sanchez, but it is a bidding war, and you can't afford to be dropping that kind of dough on who would arguably be only their 4th best starter. It makes one hella a rotation. But They have to look at what impact that signing will have on signing other people.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

The Togers will make a deal for a closer and I think that will be the only major move they make. It is still possible they open up the checkbook for Sanchez, but it is a bidding war, and you can't afford to be dropping that kind of dough on who would arguably be only their 4th best starter. It makes one hella a rotation. But They have to look at what impact that signing will have on signing other people.

With the Dodgers getting Grienke, Anibal's options are more limited. Doubt there is any kind of bidding war now.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

The Togers will make a deal for a closer and I think that will be the only major move they make. It is still possible they open up the checkbook for Sanchez, but it is a bidding war, and you can't afford to be dropping that kind of dough on who would arguably be only their 4th best starter. It makes one hella a rotation. But They have to look at what impact that signing will have on signing other people.

With the Dodgers getting Grienke, Anibal's options are more limited. Doubt there is any kind of bidding war now.

Better chance of re-signing him now?

 

[scrumptrulescent]

The Togers will make a deal for a closer and I think that will be the only major move they make. It is still possible they open up the checkbook for Sanchez, but it is a bidding war, and you can't afford to be dropping that kind of dough on who would arguably be only their 4th best starter. It makes one hella a rotation. But They have to look at what impact that signing will have on signing other people.

With the Dodgers getting Grienke, Anibal's options are more limited. Doubt there is any kind of bidding war now.

Do we even know all of Anibal's options? He is the top option now with Greinke signed, this is what he's been waiting for.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Am I the only one that thinks Sanchez will be a complete bust after getting his big money?

 

[whoknew]

The Togers will make a deal for a closer and I think that will be the only major move they make. It is still possible they open up the checkbook for Sanchez, but it is a bidding war, and you can't afford to be dropping that kind of dough on who would arguably be only their 4th best starter. It makes one hella a rotation. But They have to look at what impact that signing will have on signing other people.

With the Dodgers getting Grienke, Anibal's options are more limited. Doubt there is any kind of bidding war now.

Do we even know all of Anibal's options? He is the top option now with Greinke signed, this is what he's been waiting for.

Agree with this. You have to figure the Rangers - at the least - are going to throw some big money at him.