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Oswalt to Phillies: Pending his approval (1 Viewer)

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http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bb/7130006.html

The Astros have presented Roy Oswalt with a trade proposal that would have him going to the Philadelphia Phillies, two people with knowledge of the situation have confirmed to the Chronicle.

Oswalt, 32, must be willing to waive his no-trade clause for the deal to materialize.

Oswalt, under contract through 2011 with a 2012 option, asked the Astros to consider trading him to a contender more than two months ago. From the beginning, Oswalt stated that he is seeking a deal that is mutually beneficial.

He has until 3 p.m. Saturday — Major League Baseball's trade deadline — to make a decision.

The Astros and Phillies have been in talks regarding a major trade since last week.

It is believed the Astros stand to get at least three players — lefthander J.A. Happ and two prospects — in return for Oswalt. The Astros scouted Happ at least twice over the past 1½ weeks.

The Astros are also expected to pick up some of the money owed to Oswalt, currently some $22 million through 2011.

As is his policy, Astros general manager Ed Wade declined comment when reached by telephone Thursday morning.

A call to Oswalt’s agent, Bob Garber, was not immediately returned.

Oswalt has a $16 million option for 2012, but it is unclear at this time whether the Phillies intend to pick it up.

The Astros have been taking more phone calls for Oswalt as the trade deadline approaches. The cash-strapped Texas Rangers also made an offer for Oswalt, a person with the pulse on the negotiations has confirmed.

Oswalt is scheduled to start Friday against the Milwaukee Brewers at Minute Maid Park. He remains one win away from tying Joe Niekro’s all-time club record of 144.

Oswalt has spent his entire 10-year major league career with the Astros, in the process becoming one of the most dominant pitchers in team history.

The Astros picked Oswalt in the 23rd round of the 1996 amateur draft.

 
The rumor that has been going around is that the Phillies would get some money along with Oswalt -- the figure I saw was $8 million -- and that in exchange they'd send back J.A. Happ and prospects Matt Rizzotti and Vance Worley. We all know Happ, so let's look at the rumored prospects.

Rizzotti is a 1B/DH who has been raking in high-A and AA this year, with a combined line of .362/.443/.595 (and the numbers are actually better at AA than A). The problem with him, though is that he turns 25 after this season which makes him a bit old for the leagues he's in. While it's possible that he's a late bloomer who made a big leap forward this year, the guy doesn't really project to a big time major league talent. He could probably start for a bad team like Houston, though.

Worley is a 22 year-old starter who is 9-4 with a 3.03 ERA in 20 starts, all but one of which have come at AA (he was recently promoted to Lehigh Valley). His strikeout numbers don't suggest he's an overpowering pitcher -- he has a 6.6 K/9 in his minor league career -- but he's decent enough. My guess is that he projects as a swingman/4th-5th starter-type.

Overwhelming? Nah. But given how much money Oswalt is owed, it would be an OK haul I guess. And of course the deal could involve different dudes. More than anything, though, it probably speaks volumes about how light St. Louis' farm system is that they couldn't find some mid-level prospects to fill out a deal like this to make it happen.

hardballtalk.com

 
http://www.usatoday.com/communities/dailypitch/Index

(different bundle of prospects in this rumor)

The Astros, according to SI.com and the Houston Chronicle, will receive starter J.A. Happ, right-hander Vance Worley, first baseman Jonathan Singleton and at least one other prospect. A Phillies executive would not confirm the names. The Astros also agreed to pay part of Oswalt's contract this year. He still has $5.46 million left this season along with $16 million in 2011 and a $16 million option or $2 million buyout in 2012

 
The Phils are looking like smacked asses here. Had they never traded Lee (a much better SP) they wouldn't have to do this. Bad job by Phillies mgmt.

 
The Phils are looking like smacked asses here. Had they never traded Lee (a much better SP) they wouldn't have to do this. Bad job by Phillies mgmt.
:grad: But the management had their hands forced because of ownerships budget. Management thought 4 years of Roy Halladay was better then 1 year of Cliff Lee. The Astros are rumored to be giving somewhere between 8-12M in the deal so the Phils are now getting Halladay and Oswalt for the exact same dollar cost of Cliff Lee PLUS, both guys are signed for next year, something that Cliff Lee wasn't. The only reason they look like asses is because the return on Cliff Lee deal was poor.
 
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The Phils are looking like smacked asses here. Had they never traded Lee (a much better SP) they wouldn't have to do this. Bad job by Phillies mgmt.
:lmao: But the management had their hands forced because of ownerships budget. Management thought 4 years of Roy Halladay was better then 1 year of Cliff Lee. The Astros are rumored to be giving somewhere between 8-12M in the deal so the Phils are now getting Halladay and Oswalt for the exact same dollar cost of Cliff Lee PLUS, both guys are signed for next year, something that Cliff Lee wasn't. The only reason they look like asses is because the return on Cliff Lee deal was poor.
I'd take one year of Lee over 2 years (maybe three if the rumors of them having to pick up his option is correct) of Oswalt any day. It's not like Oswalt makes peanuts. Plus, wouldn't the Phils have recieved 2 first round compensation picks WHEN they lost Lee next year?Heck, despite being a Mets fan, I actually like the Phils (the only team I despise in the NL is ATL). I live in the area and watch them quite often. I just don't think what they did makes any sense.
 
The Phils are looking like smacked asses here. Had they never traded Lee (a much better SP) they wouldn't have to do this. Bad job by Phillies mgmt.
:shock: But the management had their hands forced because of ownerships budget. Management thought 4 years of Roy Halladay was better then 1 year of Cliff Lee. The Astros are rumored to be giving somewhere between 8-12M in the deal so the Phils are now getting Halladay and Oswalt for the exact same dollar cost of Cliff Lee PLUS, both guys are signed for next year, something that Cliff Lee wasn't. The only reason they look like asses is because the return on Cliff Lee deal was poor.
I'd take one year of Lee over 2 years (maybe three if the rumors of them having to pick up his option is correct) of Oswalt any day. It's not like Oswalt makes peanuts. Plus, wouldn't the Phils have recieved 2 first round compensation picks WHEN they lost Lee next year?Heck, despite being a Mets fan, I actually like the Phils (the only team I despise in the NL is ATL). I live in the area and watch them quite often. I just don't think what they did makes any sense.
So would I. But that's not what the Phillies did. They took 4 years of Halladay and 2 years of Oswalt. It's not a coincidence that Lee makes 9M this year and Halladay makes 15M this year and the Phils got 6M from the Blue Jays for Halladay. Trading Cliff Lee was a financial decision forced by ownership.I would take 4 years of Roy Halladay and 2 years of Roy Oswalt over 1 year of ANY PITCHER.
 
Stark reporting that the Astros are paying 11M of Oswalt's salary and the Phillies are bumping his 2012 buyout from 2M to 3M.

So Oswalt will cost the Phillies $0 for the rest of this year and $10M for 2011 and at least $3M for 2012.

 
Stark reporting that the Astros are paying 11M of Oswalt's salary and the Phillies are bumping his 2012 buyout from 2M to 3M. So Oswalt will cost the Phillies $0 for the rest of this year and $10M for 2011 and at least $3M for 2012.
Ed Wade is fnally working for us!
 
Stark reporting that the Astros are paying 11M of Oswalt's salary and the Phillies are bumping his 2012 buyout from 2M to 3M. So Oswalt will cost the Phillies $0 for the rest of this year and $10M for 2011 and at least $3M for 2012.
Ed Wade is fnally working for us!
Every year the Phillies make a trade with Ed Wade they win the World Series.
Every year the astros trade with the Philies, seems like the Astros get worse.
 
The Phils are looking like smacked asses here. Had they never traded Lee (a much better SP) they wouldn't have to do this. Bad job by Phillies mgmt.
Still got to admire their ability to go for it - prospects be damned.After all the trades and the recent promotion of D Brown the farm system has to be cleaned out.Halladay-Hamels-Oswalt is going to be tough to beat.Where's Omar?
 
would have rather just kept Lee .. and has to be a "baseball decision" that backfired in Amaro and the owners face..

but , at least they got aggressive and landed Oswalt... nice pitcher that hopefully with thrive in a better situation and can stay healthy.

 
Ed Wade, ugh.

Not an Astros fan, but some of his "highlights"

signed Pedro Feliz (ex-philly, and all worthless)

signed Brett Myers (ex-philly, having a nice year)

signed Matt Lidstrom

signed Brandon Lyon

and he just traded Oswalt and $11M cash to the Phillies

Is he working for the Phils? I'll need to see what the Astros got in return, but Phillies getting about 45 regular season starts from Oswalt for about $13M is a pretty solid investment for them, imho. Yeah, Lee is better, but you can't cry over spilled milk.

I actually don't mind the trade for the Astros either, as they are going nowhere fast, but I mean, can Wade deal with anyone other than his ex-team?

 
Makes getting rid of Cliff Lee all the more puzzling. I would take Lee all day over Oswalt.
This is Amaro admitting he made a mistake. That's what this is.
That's fine but he made it right, to an extent. Especially to the players in the locker room, who reprts have said were not at all thrilled by the trading of Lee and were upset at management. This shows that management is listening and is trying to do what it takes to win, even if they don't admit that dealing Lee was the wrong move this sort of makes up for it. No more excuses.
 
Happ, Worley, Anthony Gose goes to 'Stros for Oswalt and 11M
No, it gets even better. Phils get to hang onto the pitching prospect Worley who is having a great and give up single A shortstop Villar instead.http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/07/phil...roy-oswalt.html
Gose was flipped for close to the major league 1st baseman, Brett Wallace

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/07/astr...-blue-jays.html
Toronto traded Hallday for Taylor, then flipped Taylor for Wallace, now traded Wallace for Gose. What the hell are they thinking? From what I've read, Gose is a major downgrade from Wallace. :confused:
 
Happ, Worley, Anthony Gose goes to 'Stros for Oswalt and 11M
No, it gets even better. Phils get to hang onto the pitching prospect Worley who is having a great and give up single A shortstop Villar instead.http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/07/phil...roy-oswalt.html
Gose was flipped for close to the major league 1st baseman, Brett Wallace

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/07/astr...-blue-jays.html
Nice move...I couldn't see where Gose would fit in with the Astros. He was gone anyway, but we can now say goodbye to Lance Berkman.

 
Happ, Worley, Anthony Gose goes to 'Stros for Oswalt and 11M
No, it gets even better. Phils get to hang onto the pitching prospect Worley who is having a great and give up single A shortstop Villar instead.http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/07/phil...roy-oswalt.html
Gose was flipped for close to the major league 1st baseman, Brett Wallace

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/07/astr...-blue-jays.html
I thought the Astros were going down hill as an organization but today they really cleaned up.
 
I hate the Phankees but I don't remember there being any detractors back when they traded Cliff Lee... why are they all showing up now?

 

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