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DA RAIDERS
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no one really loves cardio. especially in the gym. except weirdos. i used to HATE it. but like all this stuff, once it becomes habit, it's easy. at your age, stretching, cardio and weights, in that order, will help you achieve your optimum health goals. looking to get swole, is in the rear view mirror my friend. but, we've been over this before.Otis said:
exactly. in my workout today, back and chest, i started with 15 minutes on the elliptical, to get things moving. 11 of those minute my heart rate was above 145. the lifting portion of the workout, averaged in the 120-135 range. that barely counts as cardio in my book. i shoot for at least 30 minutes above 145 on cardio centric days.MAC_32 said:
again, we've been over this before. i no longer run. knees can't take itOtis said:Lots of folks recommend walking over running.
krista4
Footballguy
Awesome stuff as always, GBBF. Really helpful. As to the above, I actually don’t give myself extra calories on days where I get a ton of exercise. I keep it exactly the same. It works OK for me because when I do a strenuous hike I actually feel less hungry. I might be weird that way.bostonfred said:
Something that really spoke to me in your post was not letting five become 10 become 20. Deal with the five and don’t allow the “creep.” Not doing that is how I got where I was.
Ditkaless Wonders said:
Sadly I’m just trying to get back down to standard-issue krista4.
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Gawain
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Yeah, when I get to a weight I'm happy with, I plan on continuing the weigh-ins on a no less frequent basis than every other day.
I didn't get to 290 overnight. There were many conscious decisions made to not get on a scale and not address putting on 5 pounds. Then, I reached a weight where it was easier to say it was too hard to address so I didn't even try. Not settling back into complacency or ignoring a small problem is the behavioral change I need to make.
bostonfred
Footballguy
Do you mind if i ask if you've set mfp to 1 lb per week, 1.5, 2, etc.?
Also did you go with not active, somewhat active, very?
I like 2/wk and minimally active, because i can log pretty much anything i do as exercise, and i can go over by 100 calories and still have a 900 calorie deficit for the day.
I tried 1/wk but what i found was that i never left myself with 300 extra at the end of the day.
krista4
Footballguy
Completely agree about the complacency!
You have done an incredible job on this. Really remarkable. I’m excited to continue to follow your progress.
krista4
Footballguy
I’m actually not on mfp. If I were going to choose, I’d go for 2 lb a week because I’m impatient. I should sign up. I think I did have it at one time.
Otis
Footballguy
Yup. Almost 48. I’ll continue doing it every week now, whenever possible. To be honest, I’m finding it so easy, I think I could go 48 hours, have a big meal, and then go another 48 hours, and do that on the regular. It’s really not that hard.
We’ve been sold a bill of goods. We have become convinced we should eat wayyyy more than we need to IMO.
bostonfred
Footballguy
It's not necessarily the best app but i like it because they have almost every food in the database but unless you pay extra for premium it's just a calorie counter. You can pay for nutrition information to track protein/ fat/ carbs/ fiber/ etc., but i haven't been doing that - i probably should. I kind of wing it, try to eat some salads or broccoli or something most days, get my fruit or a smoothie or something, make sure i have my water but also try to have probiotic yogurt or something once in a while so i don't get backed up (which is a real issue if you're trying to cut weight but not having your water and fiber so lets be honest even though it's gross and you don't poop).
The other thing that helped for me was having a buddy - one on mfp and one over texts - that i reported my progress too. That helped a lot. It's more than half the reason people think weight watchers works. And mfp posts your progress to a Facebook style feed that's only visible to people you choose and you can click like and comment to say great job. Whether that's your thing or not is up to you to decide. If you want a mfp buddy I'll volunteer.
So since you're counting calories but not using mfp, how did you decide how many calories to allow yourself? And if you're not logging exercise, how do you make sure you're staying in a safe calorie range? If you are running more than 1k deficit per day fairly often that's not healthy...
AAABatteries
Footballguy
MAC_32
Footballguy
As much as I want to elitist beer snob right now I'll abstain, but I drank too much each of the last two nights and threw around some weights yesterday. I also have no idea what point you're trying to make.
gianmarco
Footballguy
I think he's making fun of himself for lifting weights and getting zero benefit because he doesn't properly fuel while taking a victory lap for exceeding his water intake goal via Select55s.
MAC_32
Footballguy
My regimen is different, but I fuel similarly. And generally speaking I let the rest of my day dictate how full I get from meals. If I know I won't be in a position to want to cheat then I'll stop around 80%. This way I'm playing ahead on future days. Then on a day when I know I'll want to cheat I'll go to 100 so I dont cheat as much later.
Idea is to string together a bunch of those 80's in a row so when I have a 100+ my net still comes out ahead.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
bud select 55's
he's annoyed at my post(i think). my, not so passively calling him old, and that he needs to switch his focus from gettin SWOLE, NOEXPLODE!! to more of a TB12 approach of lean and long muscles.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Day 19:
Was feeling rundown and just tired overall yesterday. Decided to just rest and get to bed early. I pointed out to Bass about getting sleep and now I need to take my own advice - going to add it to my daily goals which will make this even more impossible for me but that ok that why we here.
- 12,031 steps
- 0 push-ups
- 0 squats
- 0 abs (0 Spider-man plank crunches; 0 leg lifts; 0 crunches; 0 mountain climbers; 0 teasers)
- Stretching - NOPE
- 100 oz of water - NOPE
- Sleep - CHECK - got 9 hours - goal will be 8.
Was feeling rundown and just tired overall yesterday. Decided to just rest and get to bed early. I pointed out to Bass about getting sleep and now I need to take my own advice - going to add it to my daily goals which will make this even more impossible for me but that ok that why we here.
- 12,031 steps
- 0 push-ups
- 0 squats
- 0 abs (0 Spider-man plank crunches; 0 leg lifts; 0 crunches; 0 mountain climbers; 0 teasers)
- Stretching - NOPE
- 100 oz of water - NOPE
- Sleep - CHECK - got 9 hours - goal will be 8.
Bull Dozier
Footballguy
This is free. You don't need to pay for it to track macros unless you're talking about something else.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
MFP works well for total calories taken in each day. I have found MFP to be the easiest way to track calories. The macros are included in most of the entries but for most of us, the macros don't matter. We need to eat less and move more.
Bull Dozier
Footballguy
I think that depends on the person and their goals, but that's not what I was responding to. BostonFred was saying macro tracking was a premium feature, which I was refuting. Whether or not it is important is a different subject.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
Sure. And I agreed with you by stating the macros are included in most entries in MFP.
Otis
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gianmarco
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DA RAIDERS
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Otis
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MAC_32
Footballguy
Your tunnel vision for what people mean when they say cardio while not surprising is quite frankly really stupid.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Day 21:
I miscounted after I got back from my trip - today is day 21 (technically 19 but now won that tomorrow with a 3 week check in). Good day today.
- 15,007 steps - iOS updated and the step counter may be more accurate now. 8 mile run tonight
- 250 push-ups
- 250 squats
- 250 abs (50 Flutter kicks - NEW; 50 leg lifts; 50 crunches; 50 mountain climbers; 50 teasers)
- Stretching - CHECK
- 100 oz of water - CHECK
- Sleep - CHECK - good night #####es
I miscounted after I got back from my trip - today is day 21 (technically 19 but now won that tomorrow with a 3 week check in). Good day today.
- 15,007 steps - iOS updated and the step counter may be more accurate now. 8 mile run tonight
- 250 push-ups
- 250 squats
- 250 abs (50 Flutter kicks - NEW; 50 leg lifts; 50 crunches; 50 mountain climbers; 50 teasers)
- Stretching - CHECK
- 100 oz of water - CHECK
- Sleep - CHECK - good night #####es
Otis
Footballguy
Otis
Footballguy
So you believe pounding on my knees repeatedly for mile after mile is a good idea?
Assume I’m not eight and therefore don’t ride bicycles. (Sorry cycle nerds).
Otis
Footballguy
bostonfred
Footballguy
Today's random weight loss thought. Get good at one day of dieting. When you're first starting, just find ways to get through the day without going under calories. As it gets easier, find a routine that works for you - i did a stretch with coffee with no sugar and a yogurt for breakfast, a smoothie for lunch, and a bigger dinner almost every day.
Slowly add in more variety. Find a bunch of low calorie foods you like - i love Noosa brand yogurt, 140 calories. Packaged southwest salad with Greek yogurt dressing - 270. Pretzel roll 160 with cold cuts 30ish calories per ounce. Steamed broccoli 25 calories for a cup. Keep low calorie options in the house or office that you can make quickly if you're feeling snackish.
Then start mixing it up more. Have a nice big breakfast out, like a panera maple bacon egg wrap for 430 calories, or have nothing, like a black coffee/ coffee with just milk for 70 calories and save all your calories for lunch and dinner. Have a bunch of mini meals. A pre made salad or a yogurt or some fruit. Make smoothies and throw a scoop of protein in it. Or keep them low cal and mix in a handful of kale with some fruit. Have a big lunch once in a while, a 600 calorie burger or 1000 calorie burrito or something, and plan some exercise so you can work off enough calories to still have a good dinner. Or save everything for one big meal at night. Find a pizza place that's lower calorie like Papa Gino's 300 per cheese slice isn't bad with a couple 160 calorie beers after a day where you've had your fruits and vegetables. Drink some booze with a piece of salmon and some veggies. Surprise yourself with how much food you can eat if you're choosing the lower calorie versions of things. It doesn't have to feel like you're starving yourself or enduring your diet. It should feel like you're experimenting with eating things you like while staying on point with calories.
The more ways you find to enjoy what you get to eat while still staying under your calorie goal, the easier it gets not only to keep going, but to sustain it, because later, if you have a big blowout cheat day and it turns into a cheat week, you have learned how easy it is to get through a day of dieting and you can just start. No planning, no starting next Monday, just get back to it. That's a skill you want to have. And don't punish yourself on Tuesday for eating too much on Monday. Just worry about staying under goal on Tuesday, and again on Wednesday and Thursday and you'll get back to it in no time.
Slowly add in more variety. Find a bunch of low calorie foods you like - i love Noosa brand yogurt, 140 calories. Packaged southwest salad with Greek yogurt dressing - 270. Pretzel roll 160 with cold cuts 30ish calories per ounce. Steamed broccoli 25 calories for a cup. Keep low calorie options in the house or office that you can make quickly if you're feeling snackish.
Then start mixing it up more. Have a nice big breakfast out, like a panera maple bacon egg wrap for 430 calories, or have nothing, like a black coffee/ coffee with just milk for 70 calories and save all your calories for lunch and dinner. Have a bunch of mini meals. A pre made salad or a yogurt or some fruit. Make smoothies and throw a scoop of protein in it. Or keep them low cal and mix in a handful of kale with some fruit. Have a big lunch once in a while, a 600 calorie burger or 1000 calorie burrito or something, and plan some exercise so you can work off enough calories to still have a good dinner. Or save everything for one big meal at night. Find a pizza place that's lower calorie like Papa Gino's 300 per cheese slice isn't bad with a couple 160 calorie beers after a day where you've had your fruits and vegetables. Drink some booze with a piece of salmon and some veggies. Surprise yourself with how much food you can eat if you're choosing the lower calorie versions of things. It doesn't have to feel like you're starving yourself or enduring your diet. It should feel like you're experimenting with eating things you like while staying on point with calories.
The more ways you find to enjoy what you get to eat while still staying under your calorie goal, the easier it gets not only to keep going, but to sustain it, because later, if you have a big blowout cheat day and it turns into a cheat week, you have learned how easy it is to get through a day of dieting and you can just start. No planning, no starting next Monday, just get back to it. That's a skill you want to have. And don't punish yourself on Tuesday for eating too much on Monday. Just worry about staying under goal on Tuesday, and again on Wednesday and Thursday and you'll get back to it in no time.
MAC_32
Footballguy
I actively try to avoid making assumptions, but if your heart is anywhere near your knees I assume your problems are slightly bigger than you believe.
MAC_32
Footballguy
ChiefD
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DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
you're so obtuse, no wonder you're so rotund. NO ONE HAS EVER SAID YOU NEED TO RUN, IN ORDER TO DO CARDIO.
i don't love cardio, especially in the gym. i wish my knees would allow me to trail run the ridiculously beautiful canyon, right outside my front door. but........that involves a lot of pain afterwords. i will go out and hike it, and its awesome.
so, here's what i do instead, at the gym. everyday has 5-10 minutes of stretching. here's a cardio day. i figure anyone can can do anything for 5 minutes, right? NO rest in between. run the stairs for 5 minutes. 3 stories. usually equals 6-7 trips. elliptical for 5 minutes at "level" 13. treadmill for 5 minutes at 15 incline @ 3.7 speed. just short of a jog. 5 minutes on this weird ski type machine. widest possible back and forth. 5 minutes on the water rower. 5 minutes on the versa climber. throw in a 60 second plank in between every 5 minutes. sometimes, i will then do an isolated lift. or, i will continue the cardio, with mega ab work. all followed by 10 minutes in the sauna. one of the reasons i break it up into so many different exercises, is boredom. i can't stand the mind numbing 30 minutes on the same machine.
and i challenge you to get on the air dyne bike, and burn 100 calories, in 5 minutes or less. sprint for 10 calories. rest, while pedaling, for 5 calories. repeat, until you hit 100 calories. good luck. it sucks. and my 13 year old daughter smoked this challenge. she probably would not have done it at 8.
good luck.
Otis
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gianmarco
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DocHolliday
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Ditkaless Wonders
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Some of us are men, its just that we have the body of Barbara Bush. Look closer next time.
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MAC_32
Footballguy
MAC_32
Footballguy
Yes, putting forth effort generally sounds awful to the fat and lazy then they get frustrated when the easy way out always fails.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Operation Six Pack
3 weeks in. Very happy with what I've done but it needs to be go time if I want to get close to my stated goals/averages. To make up for where I've missed out I'm going to try and reset my daily averages. Ironically enough, the area I'm closest in is the one BnB thought would be the hardest - steps. I'm going to take a day this weekend and just walk a ton after going on a long slow run to see if I can get that average up. Also, will take the other day this weekend and pump out as many squats and abs as I can. Probably Saturday for that so I can use Sunday to just do the normal sets and rest. I'm so far behind on pushups I'm not sure it's possible to catch-up but I'll try my best.
Diet-wise, I've been really clean since I got back from hiking. I've already dropped some weight - was 156.8 this morning. I've had to stop telling the wife when I lose as she thinks I've lost too much - I guess there's worst things.
Week 2
Two things to note - I intentionally took 2 days off before I left for my hike/backpacking trip and I'm not considering those for the totals above - Week 2 and 3 only have 6 days each and Overall I've only done 19 days although I'm calling yesterday day 21. I didn't want to put my trip at risk and in retrospect think I may the right call. The other thing is the squats on my hike days. I'm giving myself credit for 250 squats per day because of the stair numbers I accumulated. I didn't do any pushups or abs so giving myself 0's for those so they kind of offset each other and seems "fair" to me.
3 weeks in. Very happy with what I've done but it needs to be go time if I want to get close to my stated goals/averages. To make up for where I've missed out I'm going to try and reset my daily averages. Ironically enough, the area I'm closest in is the one BnB thought would be the hardest - steps. I'm going to take a day this weekend and just walk a ton after going on a long slow run to see if I can get that average up. Also, will take the other day this weekend and pump out as many squats and abs as I can. Probably Saturday for that so I can use Sunday to just do the normal sets and rest. I'm so far behind on pushups I'm not sure it's possible to catch-up but I'll try my best.
Diet-wise, I've been really clean since I got back from hiking. I've already dropped some weight - was 156.8 this morning. I've had to stop telling the wife when I lose as she thinks I've lost too much - I guess there's worst things.
Week 2
- Steps - 84,214 (14,036 per day)
- Pushups - 875 (146 per day)
- Squats - 1,010 (168 per day)
- Abs - 960 (160 per day)
- Steps - 152,591 (25,432 per day)
- Pushups - 370 (62 per day)
- Squats - 1,100 (183 per day)
- Abs - 400 (67 per day)
- Steps - 416,885 (21,941 per day)
- Pushups - 1,925 (101 per day)
- Squats - 3,360 (177 per day)
- Abs - 2,300 (121 per day)
Two things to note - I intentionally took 2 days off before I left for my hike/backpacking trip and I'm not considering those for the totals above - Week 2 and 3 only have 6 days each and Overall I've only done 19 days although I'm calling yesterday day 21. I didn't want to put my trip at risk and in retrospect think I may the right call. The other thing is the squats on my hike days. I'm giving myself credit for 250 squats per day because of the stair numbers I accumulated. I didn't do any pushups or abs so giving myself 0's for those so they kind of offset each other and seems "fair" to me.
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