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Otis fad diet thread — yoga, fasting, and kevzilla walking on🚶‍♂️ (3 Viewers)

Still following the thread.  Doing alright diet wise.  Fell off the exercise wagon.  I still have a little GAF left, cause it’s concerning me.  Need to get back on the wagon.  Overall, weight has been stable without the exercise.

 
Still following the thread.  Doing alright diet wise.  Fell off the exercise wagon.  I still have a little GAF left, cause it’s concerning me.  Need to get back on the wagon.  Overall, weight has been stable without the exercise.
Stable is good considering where you started. It means you're making long term changes, because you used to be gaining. Studies show you need to take weight off and keep it off about a year for it to really be a permanent change. 

If you're struggling with GAF, try mixing things up. I'm not usually a fan of weight lifting for weight loss. It doesn't burn calories as fast as cardio, and you can actually gain weight if you lift hard so it can be demotivating. But you've got a long term plan and sometimes you need to do something different to keep your motivation. 

So maybe you keep eating well, but instead of tracking minutes of activity, just try to add in some kind of strength or flexibility training. You aren't trying to get jacked, just think of it as an investment - you add muscle today, and it burns calories tomorrow and every day in the future. But it's also good for a couple other reasons.

Strength - especially core strength - can make a huge difference in quality of life. A strong core can help with back pain, ability to walk or run or do other sporty things, and tightening up your appearance. 

You're struggling with motivation and changing things up keeps it fun. You seem to respond well to challenges so maybe try three or four days a week of weights, or try 30 days of yoga with Adriene on YouTube like a couple of us are doing. You don't  need to make a huge daily time commitment, just pick something that moves you forward towards your goals without requiring too much GAF.

And then the other reason is that you have mentioned a goal of losing a large amount, and that often means extra skin. A zig zag down might actually be helpful in letting your skin reshape itself to your new size after some weight loss, and muscle helps with that too. How cool would it be to not only get healthy but get hot. 

You can do this dude. If you need help or motivation then make sure you keep posting here because we are all rooting for you. 

Reminder that I am not a doctor and this is not medical advice. Talk to your doctor before beginning this or any diet or exercise plan. 

 
@bostonfred     Day 7 of yoga with Adrienne was much more of a struggle for me than Day 6.  It might have been a mental thing as she bumped it up to 30 minutes (as opposed to the usual which is under 20).  

 
@bostonfred     Day 7 of yoga with Adrienne was much more of a struggle for me than Day 6.  It might have been a mental thing as she bumped it up to 30 minutes (as opposed to the usual which is under 20).  
My favorite part of day 7 was when she said your abs might still be sore from yesterday and I was like yes she understands. It was tough though and that left knee to your elbow then up then other elbow and up now to center then back up now collapse was tough. The 25-30 minute length is the norm now but not every time. And a lot less explanation of each pose. The good news is that she still gives you a rest period between the difficult poses especially the balancing ones. I'm doing day 18 in a little bit, over halfway there and havent skipped a day yet, and I definitely see improvement in some of my poses and my overall strength and flexibility. This has been awesome for me. 

 
Round of disc golf at 4 followed by dinner then a mile walk with the dogs and finished with 5000m row in 27:00
I didn’t get much sleep last night so I had no energy all day long.  Typically I would have called it a day after a few holes of DG and walking  the dogs.
This thread inspired  me to row when all I wanted to do was sit on the couch.   :thanks:  

 
I broke down this afternoon and ate a bag of M&Ms for snack (once I started I just couldn't stop).  Didn't get out of hand with my meals and walked a fair bit (more than usual given that my job has me in meetings like 5-7 hours a day).  About to start Yoga with Adriene Day 8 and then 30 minutes of Body Pump.  No booze but may sneak in half a cupcake.    :oldunsure:

 
No row tonight but KZd around the nearby lake (~2 miles) lugging the boy in one of the toddler hiking carrier things. Extra 35 pounds of resistance helped make it a decent workout. Wife is back on weight watchers with a vengeance so I am eating better. 

All in an effort to flatten the curve

 
Dale's Pale Ale, second-hand smoke, and Amylu's chicken andouille sausage.  The bad, the ugly, and the good.

And The Silverjews (I'm the only "Ten I See").  Indeed.

 
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Dale's Pale Ale, second-hand smoke, and Amylu's chicken andouille sausage.  The bad, the ugly, and the good.

And The Silverjews (I'm the only "Ten I See").  Indeed.
Big fan of the sausage :) .   A link, baked potato and some veggies is one of my go to meals.  They go well with pasta and raos.   

 
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Drinking now. :banned:

it was a run
Hey Oats,

If you had a heart attack tomorrow, recovered completely, but doctors told you that you needed to lose weight and significantly cut out drinking or else you'd likely have another one within a couple years, think you could do it? How would your family feel about that happening to you?

Every day you blow it off and joke about it here is another day closer to something like that happening. Just saying. It's one thing to be/feel invincible when you're in your 20s or even 30s. But you're doing yourself and your family a disservice.

You should look at this and figure out your current risk.

 
Hey Oats,

If you had a heart attack tomorrow, recovered completely, but doctors told you that you needed to lose weight and significantly cut out drinking or else you'd likely have another one within a couple years, think you could do it? How would your family feel about that happening to you?

Every day you blow it off and joke about it here is another day closer to something like that happening. Just saying. It's one thing to be/feel invincible when you're in your 20s or even 30s. But you're doing yourself and your family a disservice.

You should look at this and figure out your current risk.
Done!  My 30 year risk of heart disease is 25%. It says if I work on it and take some corrective health measures I could get that down to..... 20%. 
 

“Honey, pour me another.”

 
Done!  My 30 year risk of heart disease is 25%. It says if I work on it and take some corrective health measures I could get that down to..... 20%. 
 

“Honey, pour me another.”
I'm curious how you got to that number:

Here are the parameters I entered:

Age - 42

Height - 5'7

Weight - 150 lbs

No prior heart condition

No family history

Non smoker

No diabetes

Total cholesterol/HDL Cholesterol = 195/55

BP.  120/80

BP Meds - Yes

> 75 minutes physical activity

2-4 servings fruits/vegetables

0-1 servings saturated fat

30 Year Cardiovascular Risk = 29%

ETA - Interesting that booze consumption isn't accounted for in the calculation.

 
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I'm curious how you got to that number:

Here are the parameters I entered:

Age - 42

Height - 5'7

Weight - 150 lbs

No prior heart condition

No family history

Non smoker

No diabetes

Total cholesterol/HDL Cholesterol = 195/55

BP.  120/80

BP Meds - Yes

> 75 minutes physical activity

2-4 servings fruits/vegetables

0-1 servings saturated fat

30 Year Cardiovascular Risk = 29%

ETA - Interesting that booze consumption isn't accounted for in the calculation.
I just put in all my parameters.  Maybe I screwed it up.

 
I'm curious how you got to that number:

Here are the parameters I entered:

Age - 42

Height - 5'7

Weight - 150 lbs

No prior heart condition

No family history

Non smoker

No diabetes

Total cholesterol/HDL Cholesterol = 195/55

BP.  120/80

BP Meds - Yes

> 75 minutes physical activity

2-4 servings fruits/vegetables

0-1 servings saturated fat

30 Year Cardiovascular Risk = 29%

ETA - Interesting that booze consumption isn't accounted for in the calculation.
@gianmarco    This actually seems a little odd to me.  According to those parameters, I'm fairly healthy with the exception that I'm on BP meds.  My biggest downfall is booze consumption (which I'm working on) but that wasn't even accounted for in the calculation.  29% risk just seems really high.  What is the biggest thing that I need to work on?

On another note, why isn't this type of calculation a standard output when people visit their GP?  I feel like seeing a number like 29% would be fairly motivational in changing someone's behaviors.  

 
I filled mine out and I'm 22% with little to no excercise or vegetables!!;
15% here.  No veggies is really the only negative I think I have.  BP is a little on the high end of the normal range.  HDL cholesterol is pretty good, given all the running I do.

 
My 30-year risk of cardiovascular disease is 57%.  :oldunsure:

Actually, if I could get 30 good years and then croak, I would take that deal. Quality seems more important than quantity on my birthday. I possessed little GAF when I woke up this morning, and considered giving myself the day off. Then I looked and sure enough, I'm still a fat tub of goo. Performed like one as well, with an 18:52 pace. But the point is, I dragged my carcass around for 48 minutes with an elevated heart rate.

No birthday treats planned, though I'll probably have one stiff drink because nightcap has no plural.

 
15% here.  No veggies is really the only negative I think I have.  BP is a little on the high end of the normal range.  HDL cholesterol is pretty good, given all the running I do.
So I learned I can stay 30-40 pounds over weight and not workout!!!

 
Love that tool.  Otis, you’re all good continuing to not exercise and eat no vegetables.  You could do those things if you want, but it’ll only improve your chances of avoiding heart attack by 5%.  So, live it up, youngish man.

 
I’m about to do an exercise that’s less pleasant than launching myself in front of a moving train and that dumb tool is telling me it won’t make a lick of difference because there is a decent chance I’m still dead in 30 years.     :lmao:  

 
There are 3 poison skittles in this bowl that has 100 skittles in it. How many skittles do you want?

Zero. I want zero skittles please.

What? Don't you like skittles? It's only a 3 percent chance.

No, seriously, I don't want any skittles. 

 
There are 3 poison skittles in this bowl that has 100 skittles in it. How many skittles do you want?

Zero. I want zero skittles please.

What? Don't you like skittles? It's only a 3 percent chance.

No, seriously, I don't want any skittles. 
Weird. A couple weeks ago, I passed by a fellow on the street corner who was reciting pretty much this exact same monologue, nearly word for word.

 
No no no.

There are 25 poison skittles out of 100 and you have to pick 1.

If you do all this extra stuff, will swap out 5 poison with 5 regular

 
There are 3 poison skittles in this bowl that has 100 skittles in it. How many skittles do you want?

Zero. I want zero skittles please.

What? Don't you like skittles? It's only a 3 percent chance.

No, seriously, I don't want any skittles. 
When was the last time I had a skittle?

 
Seriously I’m defeated.  Between being chained to a desk all day working in my attic and just drinking a few glasses of wine and stuffing whatever in my cake hole, I am completely lost. No motivation. No physical activity. This is an awful way to live. I’ll sort it out. I’ll find my way to a new routine that works. But man, this COVID thing is a girl dog. 

 
Seriously I’m defeated.  Between being chained to a desk all day working in my attic and just drinking a few glasses of wine and stuffing whatever in my cake hole, I am completely lost. No motivation. No physical activity. This is an awful way to live. I’ll sort it out. I’ll find my way to a new routine that works. But man, this COVID thing is a girl dog. 
Sitting on my rower as I type this. Just finished 30:00 and 7073m - 146 avg HR. 

I know you’ve been a morning guy - but any thought to trying out a night rowing routine? I find though it’s hard to motivate to head downstairs after a long day A) it’s easier for me than waking up early, B) it helps stave off the ‘eat everything in sight’ nightly routine, and C) generally just caps off the day nicely  

Give it a shot!

 
Seriously I’m defeated.  Between being chained to a desk all day working in my attic and just drinking a few glasses of wine and stuffing whatever in my cake hole, I am completely lost. No motivation. No physical activity. This is an awful way to live. I’ll sort it out. I’ll find my way to a new routine that works. But man, this COVID thing is a girl dog. 
I feel similarly. I saw a thirty horse and I led it to water but it didn't want to drink. So I tried to convince a horse to drink water. You can't do that. You can lead a horse to water, sure, but you can't make him drink.  I feel badly for the time I wasted for you and for myself. But I also feel bad for responding publicly when you clear.y weren't committed to improving your life. My sincere apologies for trying to motivate you in a direction you clearly don't want to go. Rooting for you, but done lecturing.  Glll p

 
Otis, I think you're going to need to address the stress issue first, before you can tackle the rest, nutrition, and exercise dimensions. Pandemic or not, life will continue throwing curveballs at us, and you need a toolbox they don't sell at the hardware store.

 
Sitting on my rower as I type this. Just finished 30:00 and 7073m - 146 avg HR. 

I know you’ve been a morning guy - but any thought to trying out a night rowing routine? I find though it’s hard to motivate to head downstairs after a long day A) it’s easier for me than waking up early, B) it helps stave off the ‘eat everything in sight’ nightly routine, and C) generally just caps off the day nicely  

Give it a shot!
Yup all my workouts are typically after 9:30 pm. After showering, I barely have enough time to drink and eat.

 
Sitting on my rower as I type this. Just finished 30:00 and 7073m - 146 avg HR. 

I know you’ve been a morning guy - but any thought to trying out a night rowing routine? I find though it’s hard to motivate to head downstairs after a long day A) it’s easier for me than waking up early, B) it helps stave off the ‘eat everything in sight’ nightly routine, and C) generally just caps off the day nicely  

Give it a shot!
Oh man, I just can’t see doing evenings. I’m so shot. Gotta be morning. 
 

I think I just need some more balance in my life. No fad diets, just a little bit of everything.  No overdoing it with alcohol. A little exercise each day even if it’s a walk. A little time away from work to clear my mind and spend some more time with the fam. A little more “me time,” and just better balance.  In the end I think that’s the solution. 

 
Otis, I think you're going to need to address the stress issue first, before you can tackle the rest, nutrition, and exercise dimensions. Pandemic or not, life will continue throwing curveballs at us, and you need a toolbox they don't sell at the hardware store.
I think this is right. The stress and anxiety will do me in before the Oreos ever get their chance. 

 
neither gained, nor lost, any weight on vacation.  drank many beers, ate everything.  including crap i never eat. i had a double chocolate, klondike bar??!!  (daughter's 14th bday)  however, was moderately active at 8000+ feet for 4 days.  we had a 3 story house, LAM!, and i was occasionally winded, going up all 3 flights.   :lmao:   love that altitude! 

@Otis  you were on the right track, with "earning"  the tacos/wine/whatever.  as long as you put in the work, you can eat what you want.  within reason.  as i've mentioned before, i have to "pay the piper" after over doing it.  i'll be paying him tomorrow.  6 hour car ride today, with a stop at mcdonalds, for the girls.  few beers when i got home.  5 plus miles tomorrow, will suffice.  GLGB!

also, you're a tad vain.  it was nice to not be embarassed.  or embarrass my 14 year old daughter, in front of her friends, when we all went swimming.  food for thought.   :coffee:   

 
Hey Oats,

If you had a heart attack tomorrow, recovered completely, but doctors told you that you needed to lose weight and significantly cut out drinking or else you'd likely have another one within a couple years, think you could do it? How would your family feel about that happening to you?

Every day you blow it off and joke about it here is another day closer to something like that happening. Just saying. It's one thing to be/feel invincible when you're in your 20s or even 30s. But you're doing yourself and your family a disservice.

You should look at this and figure out your current risk.
I can speak to this personally. In October I was having cocktails with Gianmarco in Portugal and in December I had a widow maker heart attack. I’m 58. Even as I turned 50 my blood pressure was always perfect. -120/78 like. Now even after diet and exercise plus 3 meds it’s hard to control.  Stuff changes as you age. Multiple other friends have stents. Put the odds in your favor the best you can. 

 
I think this is right. The stress and anxiety will do me in before the Oreos ever get their chance. 
The hardest part is I seem to eat better than 90% of my friends, work out, etc. I thought I handled stress well but maybe I don’t. I don’t know if it’s really 5-10 pounds, drinking (love a good cocktail and some wine) or stress.  Regarding the latter maybe it’s time to open up a jet ski/snow cone shack in Cabo but for now I carry the number for a publicly traded company. Stressful.  

 
Booze as an issue?  I certainly think it is for us in stressful jobs like you, Oats, me.  Not meant as an excuse but as a signal that we have to be particularly conscious of this.

Otis, I know we're just all throwing #### at the wall right now, but I have to reiterate that there has not once been a time when I worked out and then regretted it afterwards.  The problem I have is starting the damn thing.  You seem to be a good morning person.  And now you also have a doggo.  Can you just get yourself out every morning - I mean every damn morning! - for a good walk/jog with the pup and beyond what the pup needs?  Again it's just the "getting started" part I find hard, but once I drag myself out it's almost immediately that I am happy I'm there and wanting to push myself further and further.  Maybe you'd feel the same.

 
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Booze as an issue?  I certainly think it is for us in stressful jobs like you, Oats, me.  Not meant as an excuse but as a signal that we have to be particularly conscious of this.

Otis, I know we're just all throwing #### at the wall right now, but I have to reiterate that there has not once been a time when I worked out and then regretted it afterwards.  The problem I have is starting the damn thing.  You seem to be a good morning person.  And now you also have a doggo.  Can you just get yourself out every morning - I mean every damn morning! - for a good walk/jog with the pup and beyond what the pup needs?  Again it's just the "getting started" part I find hard, but once I drag myself out it's almost immediately that I am happy I'm there and wanting to push myself further and further.  Maybe you'd feel the same.
Great points k4. Maybe a long walk with doggo in the morning is a good first step and will lead to other steps. Need to make that work. Maybe I can ask Mrs O to start getting up with me to tend to the he two smaller kids while I do that.  Because the mornings at the moment are a mixture right now of feeding those two, getting the dishwasher unloaded, feeding and just quickly taking doggo out back, all while I power through it emails and stress about getting started on all the work crap I need to get to that day. But maybe I need to tap the brakes on that part and just get out for a long walk and air with doggo. 
 

I like this thought. 

 
Yesterday my wife did a super cool thing and came up around 12:30 to hand me a vegetable pizza she had delivered. It was one of those smaller pizzas and I ate the whole thing I at least got some veggies for the day (I could eat my hand if you put it on a pizza). I just kept typing as I scarfed it down. Nice surprise and I think it’s the first time she came up to my office in the attic during the pandemic because she looked around and saw my whiteboard and was like “wow you have a serious setup up here.”  But I still couldn’t help feeling like Sloth I’m Goonies chained to a wall and someone coming in to throw my lunch at me. 

 
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