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Otis fad diet thread — yoga, fasting, and kevzilla walking on🚶‍♂️ (13 Viewers)

Maurile Tremblay said:
As far as I'm aware, the diet with the best track record, backed by data, for helping people keep weight off after the initial weight-loss period is the Rice Diet. Sixty-three percent of patients kept their weight off for a year after leaving the treatment facility, and I think about 45% regained no more than six pounds after five years (going from memory -- I'll see if I can find the actual stat). For most diets, the commonly cited statistic is that only about 5% of people are able to keep weight off in the long term, though there is some dispute about how accurate that is. In any case, 45% is really impressive.

(The rice diet is the one where people were originally allowed to eat only rice, fruit, fruit juice, and sugar. Later versions also allowed occasional fish and chicken and maybe a few other things. People were expected to eat this way only while at the facility. Once they went home, they were supposed to eat normally but sensibly.)

There are no long-term stats that I'm aware of for the potato diet or for water-only fasting, but I'd expect them to also do relatively well for the same reason as the rice diet -- namely, blandness. (As with the rice diet, people are not expected to stay on just potatoes or just water for the long term. The point is to use them to normalize appetite so that eating sensibly becomes easier going forward.)

The trick to making it easier to keep weight off in the long term is to adjust your bodyweight set-point, which would otherwise defend against fat loss by ramping up appetite. I'm only a few chapters into the Guyenet book and he hasn't touched on this yet, but I expect that he'll spend a fair number of words on it given that it's an area of his own research.

I personally recommend chemotherapy for weight loss (though I generally recommend against it in cancer-free subjects for other reasons). I've been losing weight for months despite consciously trying not to.
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From the LiveStrong website

The Rice diet is divided into three phases. All focus heavily on starches, nonfat dairy products, fruits and vegetables. Your daily menus won't contain anything other than these components in phase one, which lasts one week. In phases two and three, you'll be allowed one day a week of fish, eggs or lean meat along with the diet's basic foods. Phase two lasts as long as it takes for you to reach your weight-loss goal. Phase three, also called maintenance, is intended to be your dietary plan for the rest of your life. In all phases, you're required to prepare and consume your meals with no added salt or fat.

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I'd rather be fat than live that life

 
I was doing really well this week until I headed down for Mardi Gras yesterday. Might try an 80 proof liquid diet this evening.

 
Weigh in this morning, 269.8.  Down 2.2 for the week and down 30.6 total for 10.2%  Very pleased with those results.  Will post official results tomorrow.

 
1 naked dog, 1 naked brat and a few gin and sparkling waters.  I skipped bourbon and my white trash guilty pleasure of cinnamon whiskey.  

One month to go ladies - LET'S GO!!!

 
It is Sunday, the day of rest. 

Hardly!  It is leg day along with 30 minutes of cardio.  Get off the couch gentlemen and keep the weight loss going. 

 
Cold Dead Hands said:
The top 4 on the spreadsheet all have a shot. In reality, appears to be AAA's to lose.
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It shouldn't be too hard to do the math to figure out how far behind the top 5 are on a mass level based on %.  There's probably a pretty hard limit at this point given water weight and glycogen and all that.  

 
culdeus said:
It shouldn't be too hard to do the math to figure out how far behind the top 5 are on a mass level based on %.  There's probably a pretty hard limit at this point given water weight and glycogen and all that.  
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I agree, I think you're the best person for the task.  Let us know what you come up with.   

 
Cold Dead Hands said:
The top 4 on the spreadsheet all have a shot. In reality, appears to be AAA's to lose.
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FAKE NEWS!

BnB is right there and running a marathon this weekend (which would kill me and make me inelligible).  Also, one of you people got to my family like Michael Corleone got to Vincenzo Pentangeli.  Eating out, candy and they went out for ice cream today.  They are no doubt trying to sabotage me.

Serious note - I'm just happy how well I and others are doing - losing weight isn't easy and is important for most of us in here because we are well overweight.  I mentioned before but I was in the pre-diabetic category before starting this.  I just hope I can find the right maintenance program once I feel like I've reached where I want to be.  Still a long way to go.

 
AAABatteries said:
  I mentioned before but I was in the pre-diabetic category before starting this.  I just hope I can find the right maintenance program once I feel like I've reached where I want to be.  Still a long way to go.
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At my fattest I was diagnosed type 2 and prescribed Metformin. I was given a diet regimen that freaked me out - 5 meals a day. I just don't work that way. So I started serious calorie restriction. Dr advised me to stop. I began water fasting. Dr practically panicked. Diabetics must eat to keep sugars balanced. Well I was testing my sugars daily on the fasts and they were good. So I quit using Metformin. Still good. A few months later, after some drastic weight loss, and my monitor reporting healthy blood glucose twice a day, Dr said I'm not diabetic. This video showed up many years after that experience, but it explains it well. I forwarded it 9 minutes but the whole thing is worth a watch, slightly over simplified. I am a big fan of Dr. Fung. 

 
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@Sand

Two steps forward and one step back continues.  This weekend was ungood.  Looking forward to potatoes all week. Have a new secret weapon that may work. 

 
Cold Dead Hands said:
The top 4 on the spreadsheet all have a shot. In reality, appears to be AAA's to lose.
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Yeah, even if he just holds where he is at, I'd have to lose another 14 lbs in one month to catch him.  I'm not giving up, but second and third are much more up for grabs.

I'll be in competition for total weight lost, but this contest is percentage and I was just too damn fat to start.

 
forgot to weigh in.  Not a big loss but starting to hit my groove.   No chance of winning as I'm only down probably 5 pounds in 2 months. But just started taking it seriously :)

 
@Sand

2-27-2017:  201.8

Lost 0.6 pounds last week and 7.8 pounds total.   It is was arms day after the cardio this morning.  It is a great Monday so far. 

Where is the beach? 

 
OFFICIAL WEEK 8 WEIGH-IN:



Starting Weight: 335.6

Last Week: 313.4

Current Weight: 314.2

Lost: Up 0.8 lbs

Total Lost: 21.4 lbs

Total % Lost: 6.38%

@Sand

Feel like I'm stuck in neutral.  Past week to 10 days I've hovered between 312.8 and 314.6 lbs.  Been under 2,000 calories everyday and riding my exercise bike almost everyday (12 of the last 14 days and I'm up to 45 minutes at a time).  Really need to figure out something to kick start my progress again.  

On the good side, my blood sugar is really well controlled.  It's been averaging 108 for the past 30 days and daily averages in the low 90's and high 80's the past week, so I've got that going for me.  I'm assuming the increase in exercise is having a net positive impact on my blood sugar even if my weight loss had slowed. 

Keep up the good work gents, it's still helping inspire me to reform my ways.

Thanks

Cheeseypoof, or maybe it's low fat sugar free Cheeseypoof now?

 
Not losing any weight here but finished my marathon this weekend which included chugging a Shock Top at mile 25.  Also pressed 225 5 times which was a new ground for me.  I may not win this contest but my combine numbers are looking good enough that the Browns may have me on their draft sheet.

 
BassNBrew said:
Not losing any weight here but finished my marathon this weekend which included chugging a Shock Top at mile 25.  Also pressed 225 5 times which was a new ground for me.  I may not win this contest but my combine numbers are looking good enough that the Browns may have me on their draft sheet.
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I hear they need a QB.  You should definitely throw your name in there.

I'm stuck at 187.0.  Unlike previous travel weeks (like every week these days) I was able to go myself and drove.  So, I took my bike.  Got in 140 miles this week.  Was awesome.  I may be stuck at 187, but it's a damn tired, sore 187.  Just like it should be.

 
Chaos Commish said:
At my fattest I was diagnosed type 2 and prescribed Metformin. I was given a diet regimen that freaked me out - 5 meals a day. I just don't work that way. So I started serious calorie restriction. Dr advised me to stop. I began water fasting. Dr practically panicked. Diabetics must eat to keep sugars balanced. Well I was testing my sugars daily on the fasts and they were good. So I quit using Metformin. Still good. A few months later, after some drastic weight loss, and my monitor reporting healthy blood glucose twice a day, Dr said I'm not diabetic. This video showed up many years after that experience, but it explains it well. I forwarded it 9 minutes but the whole thing is worth a watch, slightly over simplified. I am a big fan of Dr. Fung. 
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http://www.nhs.uk/news/2017/02February/Pages/Fasting-diet-may-help-regenerate-diabetic-pancreas.aspx

 
cheeseypoof said:
OFFICIAL WEEK 8 WEIGH-IN:



Starting Weight: 335.6

Last Week: 313.4

Current Weight: 314.2

Lost: Up 0.8 lbs

Total Lost: 21.4 lbs

Total % Lost: 6.38%

@Sand

Feel like I'm stuck in neutral.  Past week to 10 days I've hovered between 312.8 and 314.6 lbs.  Been under 2,000 calories everyday and riding my exercise bike almost everyday (12 of the last 14 days and I'm up to 45 minutes at a time).  Really need to figure out something to kick start my progress again.  

On the good side, my blood sugar is really well controlled.  It's been averaging 108 for the past 30 days and daily averages in the low 90's and high 80's the past week, so I've got that going for me.  I'm assuming the increase in exercise is having a net positive impact on my blood sugar even if my weight loss had slowed. 

Keep up the good work gents, it's still helping inspire me to reform my ways.

Thanks

Cheeseypoof, or maybe it's low fat sugar free Cheeseypoof now?
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I've hit those times before.  Seems like you are doing all the right things but the scale does nothing.  It's possible your exercise is gaining muscle so you are losing some fat, but just not seeing results on the scale.  Do you track your eating?  I've tracked in myfitnesspal every single thing I eat.  I've found that when I've hit a plateau sometimes, I need to go back and be absolutely sure I am tracking everything and that includes portion sizes.  Just a small difference each day will fool you into thinking your calorie count is lower than it actually is.  Keep at it.

 
203.4

@Sand

My sixth week in a row travelling, and it's not stopping. NY this week and Detroit next week. I'm thankful I'm holding steady, but would really like to get into the 100's again soon...

 
The sum total of losses here is getting fairly impressive as a group.  If there was 100% participation could have probably gotten in the ballpark of a ton.  

 
OFFICIAL WEEK 7 WEIGH-IN



Starting Weight: 292.8

Last Week: 266.2

Current Weight: 264.2

Lost: 2

Total Lost: 28.6

Total % Lost- 9.2% 

@Sand

 
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rick6668 said:
I've hit those times before.  Seems like you are doing all the right things but the scale does nothing.  It's possible your exercise is gaining muscle so you are losing some fat, but just not seeing results on the scale.  Do you track your eating?  I've tracked in myfitnesspal every single thing I eat.  I've found that when I've hit a plateau sometimes, I need to go back and be absolutely sure I am tracking everything and that includes portion sizes.  Just a small difference each day will fool you into thinking your calorie count is lower than it actually is.  Keep at it.
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Yes I track everything using MyFitnessPal.  I try to be as thorough as I can but sometimes I have to make educated guesses if what I'm eating isn't listed.  Usually happens if I eat out at mom and pop type place as most chains dishes are listed in some fashion.

Regardless, it's still better than what I was doing beforehand.

 
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