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Otis in the Suburbs (2 Viewers)

Otis in the Suburbs

  • Yes

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  • Right-O

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  • You betcha

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3. The prior owners let this place go to hell. There hasn't been any trimming or gardening in millenia. I can't wait this weekend to hit up the home depot and get some shovels and hedge clippers and a chainsaw. Multiple trees are coming down, multiple bushes are being dug up.
There is zero chance you are going to take down multiple trees and dig up multiple bushes in one weekend.My bet is it is sometime in July before both of these things happen.Good luck though. :banned:
Inviting brother in law and cousins over to assist. Captioned the e-mail "Taming the Wild Party." We'll drink a few cold ones, dig up a couple bushes (one guy said he'd bring his truck and we'd hook a chain up around the bushes and to his tow hook and yank em out), and use the chainsaw to take down 3-5 thin trees. (A foot or two thick). Seems totally doable to me. :shrug:
The trees are 1 - 2 feet in diameter? I know there is a lot of joking in here, but if there is the SLIGHTEST chance that one of these could fall on/in something (like a house) get someone out there to do this for you. I've cut down my share of trees, but I get scared at 8-9 inches in diameter, especially if they have leaves (that act like a sail). You'll also need a substantial saw to cut through something that large.
:goodposting: A foot? Errr... not unless there's a clear (and I mean clear) path to fall, and no chance of it hitting anything if things go wrong. Two feet... forget it. That's a big tree.And then removing them... they weigh a LOT more than you think.Do-able if your friends have a truck and one of them really "knows" how to cut down trees.
 
3. The prior owners let this place go to hell. There hasn't been any trimming or gardening in millenia. I can't wait this weekend to hit up the home depot and get some shovels and hedge clippers and a chainsaw. Multiple trees are coming down, multiple bushes are being dug up.
There is zero chance you are going to take down multiple trees and dig up multiple bushes in one weekend.My bet is it is sometime in July before both of these things happen.Good luck though. :banned:
Inviting brother in law and cousins over to assist. Captioned the e-mail "Taming the Wild Party." We'll drink a few cold ones, dig up a couple bushes (one guy said he'd bring his truck and we'd hook a chain up around the bushes and to his tow hook and yank em out), and use the chainsaw to take down 3-5 thin trees. (A foot or two thick). Seems totally doable to me. :shrug:
This is an absolutely terrible idea. Isn't it like 1/3 of an acre? How are you possibly not going to hit something or seriously injure someone?
 
3. The prior owners let this place go to hell. There hasn't been any trimming or gardening in millenia. I can't wait this weekend to hit up the home depot and get some shovels and hedge clippers and a chainsaw. Multiple trees are coming down, multiple bushes are being dug up.
There is zero chance you are going to take down multiple trees and dig up multiple bushes in one weekend.My bet is it is sometime in July before both of these things happen.Good luck though. :banned:
Inviting brother in law and cousins over to assist. Captioned the e-mail "Taming the Wild Party." We'll drink a few cold ones, dig up a couple bushes (one guy said he'd bring his truck and we'd hook a chain up around the bushes and to his tow hook and yank em out), and use the chainsaw to take down 3-5 thin trees. (A foot or two thick). Seems totally doable to me. :shrug:
This is an absolutely terrible idea. Isn't it like 1/3 of an acre? How are you possibly not going to hit something or seriously injure someone?
Dynamite.
 
3. The prior owners let this place go to hell. There hasn't been any trimming or gardening in millenia. I can't wait this weekend to hit up the home depot and get some shovels and hedge clippers and a chainsaw. Multiple trees are coming down, multiple bushes are being dug up.
There is zero chance you are going to take down multiple trees and dig up multiple bushes in one weekend.My bet is it is sometime in July before both of these things happen.

Good luck though. :banned:
Inviting brother in law and cousins over to assist. Captioned the e-mail "Taming the Wild Party." We'll drink a few cold ones, dig up a couple bushes (one guy said he'd bring his truck and we'd hook a chain up around the bushes and to his tow hook and yank em out), and use the chainsaw to take down 3-5 thin trees. (A foot or two thick). Seems totally doable to me. :shrug:
Thin trees!!?? A foot or two thick!? :lmao:
AxMen - Strong Island Style™

We need us some before :pics: ... To be followed by after :pics: of course. :yes:
and video during

 
'Rohn Jambo said:
'KGB said:
This thread is kinda like inducing the myans to fire. :popcorn:New houseNew lifestylenew wifenew kidGood luck :thumbup:
I have been wondering, and it's hard to tell with everything happening so closely together, is it getting married, having a kid, or moving out of the city that turned Otis into the Suburban Woz?
Yes.
 
'DA RAIDERS said:
This is all kinds of awesome. Put a Chain around the bushes and rip them out???? :lmao: :lmao:
Given the age of the home, them bushes have probably been in the ground some 40-50 years... :lmao:
 
'Koya said:
You sure it's legal to go willy nilly cutting down forests in O'ville? Me thinks you may need a permit.Welcome to suburbia.
Local village ordinances on this are pretty strict. You need a permit to take down a tree that is more than 20inches in circumference when measured 3 feet above the ground. Anything smaller than that, go nuts. We've probably got 5 trees on the property that are within safe distance, and maybe a couple more where I will need to do some measuring to confirm. Bottom line is there are a LOT of trees on the property and as a result it's mostly shade but we would love a little less shade and a little more opportunity to grow grass and things other than weeds.:vroom vroom:
 
'DA RAIDERS said:
This is all kinds of awesome.

Put a Chain around the bushes and rip them out???? :lmao: :lmao:
Given the age of the home, them bushes have probably been in the ground some 40-50 years... :lmao:
What's up? Never heard of this?

I don't think anyone is assuming Otis is just going to put a chain around a bush and Gun it...

Of course you dig around the bush a ton, cut the roots as you go and go slowly but, this is a pretty common way to get the job done.

LET R RIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
'glock said:
'Koya said:
'glock said:
'Otis said:
'the moops said:
'Otis said:
3. The prior owners let this place go to hell. There hasn't been any trimming or gardening in millenia. I can't wait this weekend to hit up the home depot and get some shovels and hedge clippers and a chainsaw. Multiple trees are coming down, multiple bushes are being dug up.
There is zero chance you are going to take down multiple trees and dig up multiple bushes in one weekend.My bet is it is sometime in July before both of these things happen.

Good luck though. :banned:
Will document with pics. Our big chop down day is scheduled for Saturday, so I'll post some pics of these things during the week.Inviting brother in law and cousins over to assist. Captioned the e-mail "Taming the Wild Party." We'll drink a few cold ones, dig up a couple bushes (one guy said he'd bring his truck and we'd hook a chain up around the bushes and to his tow hook and yank em out), and use the chainsaw to take down 3-5 thin trees. (A foot or two thick). Seems totally doable to me. :shrug:
Thin trees!!?? A foot or two thick!? :lmao:
AxMen - Strong Island Style

We need us some before :pics: ... To be followed by after :pics: of course. :yes:
I will document for sure. We'll be doing this Saturday so I will post some before pics this week. Also maybe I'll take a vid or two of my big Paul Bunyan moment.
 
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meh, taking down trees isn't that hard. i've done a few in my day. just gotta remember to cut on the right side of the tree, get the proper angle and don't stand in its way when it falls.

 
'Koya said:
You sure it's legal to go willy nilly cutting down forests in O'ville? Me thinks you may need a permit.Welcome to suburbia.
Local village ordinances on this are pretty strict. You need a permit to take down a tree that is more than 20inches in circumference when measured 3 feet above the ground. Anything smaller than that, go nuts. We've probably got 5 trees on the property that are within safe distance, and maybe a couple more where I will need to do some measuring to confirm. Bottom line is there are a LOT of trees on the property and as a result it's mostly shade but we would love a little less shade and a little more opportunity to grow grass and things other than weeds.:vroom vroom:
You described the trees as "1-2 feet in diameter." If they are really that size, every one will require you to get a permit. Circumference = diameter x pi.
 
'Britney Spears said:
'Otis said:
'the moops said:
'Otis said:
3. The prior owners let this place go to hell. There hasn't been any trimming or gardening in millenia. I can't wait this weekend to hit up the home depot and get some shovels and hedge clippers and a chainsaw. Multiple trees are coming down, multiple bushes are being dug up.
There is zero chance you are going to take down multiple trees and dig up multiple bushes in one weekend.My bet is it is sometime in July before both of these things happen.Good luck though. :banned:
Inviting brother in law and cousins over to assist. Captioned the e-mail "Taming the Wild Party." We'll drink a few cold ones, dig up a couple bushes (one guy said he'd bring his truck and we'd hook a chain up around the bushes and to his tow hook and yank em out), and use the chainsaw to take down 3-5 thin trees. (A foot or two thick). Seems totally doable to me. :shrug:
This is an absolutely terrible idea. Isn't it like 1/3 of an acre? How are you possibly not going to hit something or seriously injure someone?
These trees I'm talking about here aren't that tall. And a foot or two in circumference is VERY different from a foot or two in diameter. Buncha MOPs in here.
 
These trees I'm talking about here aren't that tall. And a foot or two in circumference is VERY different from a foot or two in diameter. Buncha MOPs in here.
Re-reading, I see that you said "a foot or two thick." Most people would assume you meant diameter, not circumference.
 
Who the #### measures the thickness of a tree by the circumference?
:shrug:By the way, which way does a tree fall -- in the direction of the side you cut on, or the opposite way? I feel like I know this from cartoons but I'm not sure those are accurate.
 
If a tree falls on a house with no other FBG's are around to hear it- does it make a sound? :shrug:

 
Who the #### measures the thickness of a tree by the circumference?
:shrug:By the way, which way does a tree fall -- in the direction of the side you cut on, or the opposite way? I feel like I know this from cartoons but I'm not sure those are accurate.
BTW- this question was just enough to make me want to pack up my lawn chair, a 12 pack and my camera and come on over Saturday... :popcorn:
 
Otis, it's a virtual certainty that there will be poison ivy in that brush. Be sure to cover up and wash thoroughly when you are done.

 
Kill joy post

Warning: Good sense spoken here. :angry:

I climb, prune and remove trees for a living and this looks like a disaster. You would be better off hiring someone unless you have extensive knowledge of the different fiber strengths of different species. Nearly every week I hear about another home owner who thinks they can do this safely and ends up dead, cutting off an arm or leg (or someone else's), or dropping a tree on a car or house. I work with a chainsaw daily and it never ceases to amaze me the lack of respect that people have for these tools. Chainsaws are not something to joke about and can cut your face in half before you know what is going on. Google chainsaw accidents, go buy some chaps, hearing protection, safety glasses, boots, and gloves. Use the saw for cutting up fire wood, I strongly urge you to not attempt felling trees.
 
'DA RAIDERS said:
This is all kinds of awesome.

Put a Chain around the bushes and rip them out???? :lmao: :lmao:
Given the age of the home, them bushes have probably been in the ground some 40-50 years... :lmao:
What's up? Never heard of this?

I don't think anyone is assuming Otis is just going to put a chain around a bush and Gun it...

Of course you dig around the bush a ton, cut the roots as you go and go slowly but, this is a pretty common way to get the job done.

Well it's normally with a small back hoe, or front end loader...But I can't wait for the call to the plumber when he rip out the plumbing that the roots are wrapped around :hophead:

 
Kill joy post

Warning: Good sense spoken here. :angry:

I climb, prune and remove trees for a living and this looks like a disaster. You would be better off hiring someone unless you have extensive knowledge of the different fiber strengths of different species. Nearly every week I hear about another home owner who thinks they can do this safely and ends up dead, cutting off an arm or leg (or someone else's), or dropping a tree on a car or house. I work with a chainsaw daily and it never ceases to amaze me the lack of respect that people have for these tools. Chainsaws are not something to joke about and can cut your face in half before you know what is going on. Google chainsaw accidents, go buy some chaps, hearing protection, safety glasses, boots, and gloves. Use the saw for cutting up fire wood, I strongly urge you to not attempt felling trees.
Killjoy Post II

Since I moved to my house 6 years ago, not that far from Otis, I have spent upwards of 4k on Tree removal and Trimming....

It costs $800-$1000 to remove a nice size, maybe 3 ft diameter tree with nice height around here.. And that's "Cheap Charlies"

It so hard to part with money for this ####.

 
'DA RAIDERS said:
This is all kinds of awesome.

Put a Chain around the bushes and rip them out???? :lmao: :lmao:
Given the age of the home, them bushes have probably been in the ground some 40-50 years... :lmao:
What's up? Never heard of this?

I don't think anyone is assuming Otis is just going to put a chain around a bush and Gun it...

Of course you dig around the bush a ton, cut the roots as you go and go slowly but, this is a pretty common way to get the job done.

First off- these fools needed one of these. :yes:
 
'Otis said:
INITIAL REPORT AND FINDINGS1. Moving sucks. Moving with a one month old is HORRIBLE. It turns out if you give a moving company the responsibility of packing your stuff, they will pack ALL your stuff, including the stray toothpicks on the bottom of the drawer and the couple ounces of milk left. Everything will be wrapped in tons of paper. It will easily double the cost of materials you were estimated and double the overall total cost of the move, and they will start at 9am and won't leave your new house until 10pm. Eff moving.2. Met the first neighbor. We had a neighborly chat. I enjoyed it.3. The prior owners let this place go to hell. There hasn't been any trimming or gardening in millenia. I can't wait this weekend to hit up the home depot and get some shovels and hedge clippers and a chainsaw. Multiple trees are coming down, multiple bushes are being dug up. A gate was hanging half-cocked off the front fence, tied there with ziptie, and in a fit of rage yesterday I stormed out front, tore it out, and set it in the back with the enormous stack of trash and boxes leftover from the move.4. Craigslist is amazing. You can convince dozens of people to e-mail you to come pick up the horrendous eyesore that is the enormous wooden playset on your FRONT lawn, and they will fight over who will get there first. Dude supposed to show in an hour to disassemble that monster and cart it off. Score 1 for the city slicker.5. There is a ####ing cat door in my door to the basement. I assume that's what it is. It's a tiny little door at the bottom of a real door. What the hell.6. Old houses are scary. Unfinished scary basements and attics. And when the heat came on yesterday the knocking and banging in the pipes was so bad it sounded like someone was dropping grand pianos on our house. I got a quick tutorial from the guy who was here today installing the new kitchen appliances and he tells me we need "bleeders" on all the radiators, which should stop the knocking.7. This house is like the money pit. It's smaller and dirtier and needs more work than we remember. Total and complete neglect from the prior homeowners. I'm amazed people live like that. Getting a painter in next week to coat the first floor. All the walls are covered in dirt. 8. Kids are amazing. I have my one month old sitting in this seat with a spinning mobile above her and she is ENCHANTED by those stupid green ducks and yellow moons.9. It was cool that the Verizon guy finally got here and installed our FioS. I'm not sure about his design choice when he ran a white cable up the side of our house and into the upstairs bedroom.10. Old creaky floors sort of make me want to poke my eyes out. On the upside, if we ever have an intruder I'll know exactly where the SOB is.11. There's no garbage chute here. Chatted up the garbage men this morning when they hauled off just half the crap I left at the curb. Gave 'em a tip, introduced ourselves as the new owners, and apologized for putting a zillion things out. 12. HOLY CRAP it is quiet out here. We sat on our stoop drinking wine and smoking cigarettes and it was dead silence. Very cool and relaxing, but creepy as hell.13. Bugs. Ants, bees, flies, mosquitoes. We didn't have these in our apartment. But if we leave the doors open here for more than 4 seconds, it's like the whole ####### insect kingdom. I guess I need fly swatters.We're a good month from being able to host a barbecue. This #### is hard work.
ool awesome
 
This is all kinds of awesome.

Put a Chain around the bushes and rip them out???? :lmao: :lmao:
Given the age of the home, them bushes have probably been in the ground some 40-50 years... :lmao:
What's up? Never heard of this?

I don't think anyone is assuming Otis is just going to put a chain around a bush and Gun it...

Of course you dig around the bush a ton, cut the roots as you go and go slowly but, this is a pretty common way to get the job done.

And the body shop when the chain snaps and nails the truck. :thumbup:
 
Kill joy post

Warning: Good sense spoken here. :angry:

I climb, prune and remove trees for a living and this looks like a disaster. You would be better off hiring someone unless you have extensive knowledge of the different fiber strengths of different species. Nearly every week I hear about another home owner who thinks they can do this safely and ends up dead, cutting off an arm or leg (or someone else's), or dropping a tree on a car or house. I work with a chainsaw daily and it never ceases to amaze me the lack of respect that people have for these tools. Chainsaws are not something to joke about and can cut your face in half before you know what is going on. Google chainsaw accidents, go buy some chaps, hearing protection, safety glasses, boots, and gloves. Use the saw for cutting up fire wood, I strongly urge you to not attempt felling trees.
Killjoy Post II

Since I moved to my house 6 years ago, not that far from Otis, I have spent upwards of 4k on Tree removal and Trimming....

It costs $800-$1000 to remove a nice size, maybe 3 ft diameter tree with nice height around here.. And that's "Cheap Charlies"

It so hard to part with money for this ####.
I had three 40+ foot pines and assorted weed trees taken down by a pro a couple of years ago. Each of the big ones within 15 feet of my house, there was no way in hell I was tackling them on my own. :moneybag:
 
'Otis said:
INITIAL REPORT AND FINDINGS1. Moving sucks. Moving with a one month old is HORRIBLE. It turns out if you give a moving company the responsibility of packing your stuff, they will pack ALL your stuff, including the stray toothpicks on the bottom of the drawer and the couple ounces of milk left. Everything will be wrapped in tons of paper. It will easily double the cost of materials you were estimated and double the overall total cost of the move, and they will start at 9am and won't leave your new house until 10pm. Eff moving.2. Met the first neighbor. We had a neighborly chat. I enjoyed it.3. The prior owners let this place go to hell. There hasn't been any trimming or gardening in millenia. I can't wait this weekend to hit up the home depot and get some shovels and hedge clippers and a chainsaw. Multiple trees are coming down, multiple bushes are being dug up. A gate was hanging half-cocked off the front fence, tied there with ziptie, and in a fit of rage yesterday I stormed out front, tore it out, and set it in the back with the enormous stack of trash and boxes leftover from the move.4. Craigslist is amazing. You can convince dozens of people to e-mail you to come pick up the horrendous eyesore that is the enormous wooden playset on your FRONT lawn, and they will fight over who will get there first. Dude supposed to show in an hour to disassemble that monster and cart it off. Score 1 for the city slicker.5. There is a ####ing cat door in my door to the basement. I assume that's what it is. It's a tiny little door at the bottom of a real door. What the hell.6. Old houses are scary. Unfinished scary basements and attics. And when the heat came on yesterday the knocking and banging in the pipes was so bad it sounded like someone was dropping grand pianos on our house. I got a quick tutorial from the guy who was here today installing the new kitchen appliances and he tells me we need "bleeders" on all the radiators, which should stop the knocking.7. This house is like the money pit. It's smaller and dirtier and needs more work than we remember. Total and complete neglect from the prior homeowners. I'm amazed people live like that. Getting a painter in next week to coat the first floor. All the walls are covered in dirt. 8. Kids are amazing. I have my one month old sitting in this seat with a spinning mobile above her and she is ENCHANTED by those stupid green ducks and yellow moons.9. It was cool that the Verizon guy finally got here and installed our FioS. I'm not sure about his design choice when he ran a white cable up the side of our house and into the upstairs bedroom.10. Old creaky floors sort of make me want to poke my eyes out. On the upside, if we ever have an intruder I'll know exactly where the SOB is.11. There's no garbage chute here. Chatted up the garbage men this morning when they hauled off just half the crap I left at the curb. Gave 'em a tip, introduced ourselves as the new owners, and apologized for putting a zillion things out. 12. HOLY CRAP it is quiet out here. We sat on our stoop drinking wine and smoking cigarettes and it was dead silence. Very cool and relaxing, but creepy as hell.13. Bugs. Ants, bees, flies, mosquitoes. We didn't have these in our apartment. But if we leave the doors open here for more than 4 seconds, it's like the whole ####### insect kingdom. I guess I need fly swatters.We're a good month from being able to host a barbecue. This #### is hard work.
ool awesome
:lmao: ...no garbage chute huh, and flies and mosquitos too...imagine that...
 
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Who the #### measures the thickness of a tree by the circumference?
:shrug:By the way, which way does a tree fall -- in the direction of the side you cut on, or the opposite way? I feel like I know this from cartoons but I'm not sure those are accurate.
side you cut on
Or the heavy side, or the downwind side, or the rotten side, or the side that's not tied in by vines.
right. don't cut on the uphill side, or the healthy side or the side tied in by vines.or the side that faces your house, car, kids, wife, etc.
 
This is all kinds of awesome.

Put a Chain around the bushes and rip them out???? :lmao: :lmao:
Given the age of the home, them bushes have probably been in the ground some 40-50 years... :lmao:
What's up? Never heard of this?I don't think anyone is assuming Otis is just going to put a chain around a bush and Gun it...

Of course you dig around the bush a ton, cut the roots as you go and go slowly but, this is a pretty common way to get the job done.

I was attempting to pull some guy out of a snow bank using f my front hook and watched my chain snap. It sailed right over my windshield and barely scratched my hood. :shock:

 
I was attempting to pull some guy out of a snow bank using f my front hook and watched my chain snap. It sailed right over my windshield and barely scratched my hood. :shock:
And that is why you use straps, not chains (for vehicle recovery/4 wheeling)... and no hooks attached to the the ends of the straps either.
 
The walk to the train this morning was the most grueling 13 minute uphill walk of my life. I can't believe I have to do that every day.

 
I was attempting to pull some guy out of a snow bank using f my front hook and watched my chain snap. It sailed right over my windshield and barely scratched my hood. :shock:
And that is why you use straps, not chains (for vehicle recovery/4 wheeling)... and no hooks attached to the the ends of the straps either.
True. And it was actually a strap with a hook IIRC. His. :loco:
 
The walk to the train this morning was the most grueling 13 minute uphill walk of my life. I can't believe I have to do that every day.
That will only help, considering that Mrs O is one "baddass cook." ;)
 
Kill joy post

Warning: Good sense spoken here. :angry:

I climb, prune and remove trees for a living and this looks like a disaster. You would be better off hiring someone unless you have extensive knowledge of the different fiber strengths of different species. Nearly every week I hear about another home owner who thinks they can do this safely and ends up dead, cutting off an arm or leg (or someone else's), or dropping a tree on a car or house. I work with a chainsaw daily and it never ceases to amaze me the lack of respect that people have for these tools. Chainsaws are not something to joke about and can cut your face in half before you know what is going on. Google chainsaw accidents, go buy some chaps, hearing protection, safety glasses, boots, and gloves. Use the saw for cutting up fire wood, I strongly urge you to not attempt felling trees.
:lol: I used to work for a tree service in college. We took out massive trees. It was perilous work. That quote applies to them. What Otis wants to do is doable enough for anyone with a chain saw, determined and not stupid. His trees sound small enough.A tree or branch straight cut will fall in the combined direction of it's weight distribution and gravity. I've seen trees leaning left that you would guarantee would fall that way, but because heavy branches were growing back to the right it fell that way or some way inbetween.

A good home owner approach is to deternine the lay (place to drop tree) and cut off branches from the other side of the tree, leaving the heaviest branches in the direction of the lay. You start to choose which way it is going to fall before cutting. Then I wrap a rope around a couple remaining branches and get someone to pull the tree in that direction while I cut the tree. It is possible to do this alone tying off the rope with good tension to something in the right direction but this not a great idea sometimes.

Three cuts fell a tree. Two face cuts and the back cut. The first face cut is hip high on the side of the tree in the direction you want it to fall - horizontal, a quarter into the trunk, deeper for bigger trees. The second is diagonal down from above the first cut to make a wedge -- a 33 degree angle is fine for most smaller trees. Screwing up this cut is often the reason people accidentally take out power lines and stuff. The back cut can be horizontal or slightly angled down. It should meet the face cuts an inch or so above the first horizontal cut. When the tree moves, pull away and stand back. It is a very big mistake to just straignt cut a trunk. It is okay for some branches but never the trunk. The tree can and often will pinch the saw with all it's weight and nothing good happens after that. Three cuts on the trunk, please.

Otis, if you're taking the trees out of the ground, stump, root ball and all, you generally want to top the tree, trimming branches until left with just the trunk fairly high for leverage. Then you dig a moat around the tree cutting roots as you find them. Then with the truck and chains you can usually pull the thing out of the ground. A couple of these is a long hard days work. I've done several Italian Cypresses over the last couple weeks and they come out with ropes and a couple men pulling, but they're especially easy.

If you're leaving the stumps still fell the tree from hip high then take the stump down to the ground. You can poison the stump so it rots in a year of so, or you can rent a stump grinder and get it down a foot beneath the soil. This what I generally do. You can plant grass right over it even if it is only 6" below the surface. Stump grinders are great one day rentals. I've prepped gardens with them, made irrigation trenches, dug out a huge hole for my basketball hoop post, etc. One of the truly great unsung power tools.

 

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