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Otis in the Suburbs (1 Viewer)

Otis in the Suburbs

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This sounds truly awful.

Why exactly do folks live in the suburbs?
For me it was having 2 kids and not wanting to deal with the absolute horror story #### show that educating them in the city would be. Plus there are a number of suburbs in the bay area that are quite nice, liveable, not cookie cutter, close to outdoor open spaces, have some modicum of nightlife, etc..
Such as? Don't get me wrong, I live in Oakland and not SF, so that's already a "suburb" even though Oakland has more population than the city.
We used to live in Oakland, we moved to CV to have a kid.We've been here almost 3 years and I love it. It's an easy drive or BART to Oakland or SF, and we live in a quiet neighborhood with almost no traffic. My wife and I were freaked out by the quiet the first night we slept here.

 
lawn: if you don't go with the lawn service, choose a good Honda or Toro self-propelled mower. not the ones they sell at lowes or home depot - the ones at the landscape contractor supply stores.toro examplehonda example

Snow: recommend small two-stage snow thrower, rather than red box with paddles. link.

neighbors: booze always works

patio: recommend stamped, colored concrete. not color dusted over the surface, but tinted at the plant. looks like pavers without the maintenance hassle.

slope: excessive cuts-and-fills on the property might screw up local drainage and seriously irritate your neighbors when you flood parts of their property. how about the retaining wall mentioned earlier?

steps: i'm not sure of your skills in that matter whether or not to do yourself. if you want the brick look, recommend stamped colored concrete, as with the patio.

grill: i'm a big fan of my gas weber genesis silver.

 
lawn: if you don't go with the lawn service, choose a good Honda or Toro self-propelled mower. not the ones they sell at lowes or home depot - the ones at the landscape contractor supply stores.toro examplehonda example

Snow: recommend small two-stage snow thrower, rather than red box with paddles. link.

neighbors: booze always works

patio: recommend stamped, colored concrete. not color dusted over the surface, but tinted at the plant. looks like pavers without the maintenance hassle.

slope: excessive cuts-and-fills on the property might screw up local drainage and seriously irritate your neighbors when you flood parts of their property. how about the retaining wall mentioned earlier?

steps: i'm not sure of your skills in that matter whether or not to do yourself. if you want the brick look, recommend stamped colored concrete, as with the patio.

grill: i'm a big fan of my gas weber genesis silver.
Wow. Great call on the stamped colored concrete. Seems like a pretty easy/cheap but still nice looking alternative. Tons of other great info here and in the rest of the thread already too. :thumbup;

 
Good God. Suburb living basically sounds like my personal daily hell.
It's funny but even just three years ago inwould have agreed with this. Now I absolutely cannot wait to get out there. The city is great if you're youn and single. Beyon that? Give me a little patch of land, a backyard, some space, trees, and a breezy summer day. I can't wait until we get out there and have our first drink in the yard. I'm giddy.
 
No Way on Patio work.. I do a ton of work on my house but, laying bricks is something else.

I thought about doing it and it can be done but, you have your hands full and unless you have awesome help, that project will take a while - You're gonna want a patio pronto.

Get help for the lawn as well. You are about to enter a #### storm. You don't need to be mowing a lawn right now... You can always research and buy a mower later on but, for now get a service and work on the rest of your huge list of things to do...

If you really want to go outside and drink a beer, there will be an endless list of projects outside to work on...

Costco Has some good outdoor furniture deals...

Fortunoff used to be the place a lot of people went on LI but, IMO they are way overpriced.... Harrows is ok.. I guess it goes without saying that there are great deals AFTER the season... But, my parents just got a set at Costco and love it.

I also got my Stainless Grill from Costco 7 years ago and it's still great....

I also love that stamped concrete look - I happened to know a guy who does paver patios but, not anyone who did stamped concrete so, I would up with a Paver Patio - There's a thread around here with some nice Patio pics, I think it was Jersey Tough Guy who has some awesome set up.

My 150 sq ft Pavers with stair work and a curve cost about 7k.

 
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Good God. Suburb living basically sounds like my personal daily hell.
How does the Offdee scale change in the suburbs? Everyone gets a +1?
Quite the opposite. Women move to the burbs, pop out some kids, get a mom haircut, get lazy and fat and end up only caring how her drapes look to the neighbors.
Sorry, should have worded that better. For men in the suburbs are women who would usually a 6 become a 7 (because of lack of options etc).The quality of individual women inevitably nosedives.
 
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Learn to love the hot local italian joint, Olive Garden. Oh and that new seafood place that just moved in is getting rave reviews, Red Lobster.
:lol:

Not Where Otis Lives... This is still NEW YORK.

I have at least 5 Italian joints (that I Like)with Italians off the boat within 5 miles of my house. I pick and choose which flavor sauce I'm in the mood for or what kind of crowd....

As for Seafood - YO, this is Lawn Guyland... We get the fish right off the boat and that's within 5 miles of me. (Freeport) I can either take the fish / Lobsters home or pick from over a dozen restaurants on the nautical mile just in that one town.

Hint: It's an island - you can find seafood and towns right on the water literally all around the island. :shock:

IMO, Seafood is one thing that is defintely better on Long Island that NYC unless you pay big $$$$$. I don't even bother with Seafood in the city.

Oh> and thanks to that big BBQ thread, I've been grilling my lobster which is probably the easiest thing in the world to Grill Especially the Tails!!!!!

Also - On BBQ's.. JETMORE

These guys are Weber dealers and are a great resource opposed to going to Home Depot and talking to some kid with no clue.... I've wanted a new grill yet, every time I go to Jetmore, they tell me some trick to make my old Grill work even better and tell me that my grill is fine...

I forget the other grills they sell but, they might even steer you away from the Weber. I forget what he said but, I think they sell a grill just as good but, not as "fancy".... Also they sell all the parts for Weber and whatever other products so, if anything goes wrong you go right back to them and they hook you up - Some Grills you find out, the insides rust out and you can't get parts as easy.

 
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Get a lawn service..best thing I ever did. I have an acre lot and it took me four hours to do it right. Now every Thurday four guys show up and they edge every week. I come home and it looks great and I get to enjoy my weekend.

 
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Learn to love the hot local italian joint, Olive Garden. Oh and that new seafood place that just moved in is getting rave reviews, Red Lobster.
:lol:Not Where Otis Lives... This is still NEW YORK.I have at least 5 Italian joints (that I Like)with Italians off the boat within 5 miles of my house. I pick and choose which flavor sauce I'm in the mood for or what kind of crowd....As for Seafood - YO, this is Lawn Guyland... We get the fish right off the boat and that's within 5 miles of me. (Freeport) I can either take the fish / Lobsters home or pick from over a dozen restaurants on the nautical mile just in that one town.Hint: It's an island - you can find seafood and towns right on the water literally all around the island. :shock:IMO, Seafood is one thing that is defintely better on Long Island that NYC unless you pay big $$$$$. I don't even bother with Seafood in the city.Oh> and thanks to that big BBQ thread, I've been grilling my lobster which is probably the easiest thing in the world to Grill Especially the Tails!!!!!
:goodposting:Not all suburbs are created equal.
 
Learn to love the hot local italian joint, Olive Garden. Oh and that new seafood place that just moved in is getting rave reviews, Red Lobster.
:lol:Not Where Otis Lives... This is still NEW YORK.I have at least 5 Italian joints (that I Like)with Italians off the boat within 5 miles of my house. I pick and choose which flavor sauce I'm in the mood for or what kind of crowd....As for Seafood - YO, this is Lawn Guyland... We get the fish right off the boat and that's within 5 miles of me. (Freeport) I can either take the fish / Lobsters home or pick from over a dozen restaurants on the nautical mile just in that one town.Hint: It's an island - you can find seafood and towns right on the water literally all around the island. :shock:IMO, Seafood is one thing that is defintely better on Long Island that NYC unless you pay big $$$$$. I don't even bother with Seafood in the city.Oh> and thanks to that big BBQ thread, I've been grilling my lobster which is probably the easiest thing in the world to Grill Especially the Tails!!!!!
:goodposting:Not all suburbs are created equal.
I'm really shocked that Red Lobster is even in business on Long Island...My wife gets sucked into the commercials and she's from Carolina and she says' "Oh I love Red Lobster - We should go!!!"And I say "Are you ####'# Kidding me we live on an island.!!!!!!!!!!"
 
Let's get this fired up. I'll be landing in this alien world in under two months. What do I need to know here?Some topics I'd like to get through in the coming months:- BBQ -- need a hot-shot grill. What do I get? (Also -- have no idea how to BBQ, but I'll count on my GBs for that)- I need a patio set. Where/what to get?- Do we stop by the neighbors to introduce ourselves? Bring a pie? Bottle of wine?- I need to redo the patio. It looks like crap. So do the concrete front steps. Stone or brick? Can I do myself?- Lawnmowers. Whatcha got?- This pachysandra looks like crap. Pull it out and plant grass? (Beer party at Oat's place for helpers)Etc.
BBQ - Very happy with my Weber - still kicks *** after 7 years - Have easily replaced a few parts but I've taken care of it and it still looks somewhat new. Learning how to use and experimenting with different foods if fun - don't sweat this partPatio set - shop around/let the wife pick it out - I'd recommend Fortunoff but they went out of business. When you're looking at different sets ask yourself if you want it to last 5-10 years and spend accordinglyNeighbors - the less I see of them the better - Living Wall = Leyland Cypress - a fantastic quick growing sturdy bush/treeRe-doing patio/ front steps - OUTSOURCE. Stamped concrete and/or pavers are the way to go. Anything that involves moving earth/rock = OUTSOURCE. You'll have plenty to do around the house - don't ned to be busting your *** doing this.Lawnmower - Very happy with my Lawnboy/Honda engine. Biggest thing to look for is the ease of taking the bag on/off to empty cut grass. If this is an outsource option you'll spend $20-$50 per wek depending on the size of your yardPulling up unwanted grass - Outsource IMO or go to a rental type shop to rent RotoTillers/Thatchers for the day. Strongly recommend the poutsource optin here again.Other must haves - some make excellent house warming gifts from the parents.Snowblower - hands down the best house warming gift I've received - especially after this past winter. I'd recommend an Ariens model here.Need a fridge for the garage - an absolute must - new/used - dont matter - as long as it can keep a few cases of beer cold.Welcome to the burbs.
 
Learn to love the hot local italian joint, Olive Garden. Oh and that new seafood place that just moved in is getting rave reviews, Red Lobster.
:lol:

Not Where Otis Lives... This is still NEW YORK.

I have at least 5 Italian joints (that I Like)with Italians off the boat within 5 miles of my house. I pick and choose which flavor sauce I'm in the mood for or what kind of crowd....

As for Seafood - YO, this is Lawn Guyland... We get the fish right off the boat and that's within 5 miles of me. (Freeport) I can either take the fish / Lobsters home or pick from over a dozen restaurants on the nautical mile just in that one town.

Hint: It's an island - you can find seafood and towns right on the water literally all around the island. :shock:

IMO, Seafood is one thing that is defintely better on Long Island that NYC unless you pay big $$$$$. I don't even bother with Seafood in the city.

Oh> and thanks to that big BBQ thread, I've been grilling my lobster which is probably the easiest thing in the world to Grill Especially the Tails!!!!!

Also - On BBQ's.. JETMORE

These guys are Weber dealers and are a great resource opposed to going to Home Depot and talking to some kid with no clue.... I've wanted a new grill yet, every time I go to Jetmore, they tell me some trick to make my old Grill work even better and tell me that my grill is fine...

I forget the other grills they sell but, they might even steer you away from the Weber. I forget what he said but, I think they sell a grill just as good but, not as "fancy".... Also they sell all the parts for Weber and whatever other products so, if anything goes wrong you go right back to them and they hook you up - Some Grills you find out, the insides rust out and you can't get parts as easy.
I absolutely love this place on Merrick Road - very helpful.Nice selection of Chimineas and BBQ sauces as well

Is Otis really moving to L.I.? South shore or North shore?

 
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Let's get this fired up. I'll be landing in this alien world in under two months. What do I need to know here?Some topics I'd like to get through in the coming months:- BBQ -- need a hot-shot grill. What do I get? (Also -- have no idea how to BBQ, but I'll count on my GBs for that)- I need a patio set. Where/what to get?- Do we stop by the neighbors to introduce ourselves? Bring a pie? Bottle of wine?- I need to redo the patio. It looks like crap. So do the concrete front steps. Stone or brick? Can I do myself?- Lawnmowers. Whatcha got?- This pachysandra looks like crap. Pull it out and plant grass? (Beer party at Oat's place for helpers)Etc.
Patio set - shop around/let the wife pick it out - I'd recommend Fortunoff but they went out of business. When you're looking at different sets ask yourself if you want it to last 5-10 years and spend accordingly
Fortunoffs Re-Opened with only outdoor furniture....I still think they are WAY overpriced.ETA... I know "MALLS" are taboo and all for the suburbs but, The Source Mall in Westbury where Fortunoffs is rulz.... It's quiet and has a Gymboree to bring your kid as soon as the cold months come back. (Milf galore)... They have an Off-Sachs and a PF Changs, one of the few chain places I like.....They also have an indoor Carousel for the kid and is just a good place to avoid the regular Mall crowd you see at Roosevelt Field and get out of the cold...
 
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Love all the 'why would anyone live in the suburbs' outrage. Nothing worse than a bunch of highfalutin city types who think people who move to the burbs are sellouts.

Most of them do the SAME thing if/when they have kids.

 
If you have the bankroll, outsource as much as you can.

Sure it's fun and you save money by going the DIY route.

But it also takes up a lot of time. Time better spent with the wife and kids and enjoying your hobbies.

And just about everything home improvement related starts at a $1,000 and goes up from there.

 
Slopey backyard. What the hell do I do with this giant hill? I can either dig down one half or build up the other. Or get one of those professional landscape architect guys in. THIS IS AN ADVANCED TOPIC, RESERVED FOR SUMMER 2011.
We will need pics of the lawn in order to help.I agree with the others to let a pro do the steps and maybe the patio.How big is the yard? This will dictate the type of mower.For grilling, if you're new at it, I'd recommend a gas plus either a webber charcoal or a cheap vertical water smoker for when you to start experimenting with real bbq.
 
+1 on the lawn service for Otis. He's almost partner. He doesn't need to cut a lawn. Make sure it's not a studly latino boy who seduce Mrs. O whilst you are work.

 
Learn to love the hot local italian joint, Olive Garden. Oh and that new seafood place that just moved in is getting rave reviews, Red Lobster.
:lol:Not Where Otis Lives... This is still NEW YORK.I have at least 5 Italian joints (that I Like)with Italians off the boat within 5 miles of my house. I pick and choose which flavor sauce I'm in the mood for or what kind of crowd....As for Seafood - YO, this is Lawn Guyland... We get the fish right off the boat and that's within 5 miles of me. (Freeport) I can either take the fish / Lobsters home or pick from over a dozen restaurants on the nautical mile just in that one town.Hint: It's an island - you can find seafood and towns right on the water literally all around the island. :shock:IMO, Seafood is one thing that is defintely better on Long Island that NYC unless you pay big $$$$$. I don't even bother with Seafood in the city.Oh> and thanks to that big BBQ thread, I've been grilling my lobster which is probably the easiest thing in the world to Grill Especially the Tails!!!!!
:goodposting:Not all suburbs are created equal.
:goodposting:I will say that the town we are moving to seems pretty awesome. We have a quiet little block with tons of trees and a big pond just down the road (you have a nice view of it from our house up on the hill), and yet we are two blocks from a main street that has just about everything you could want -- some great programs for kids, but far more importantly a bunch of fantastic restaurants. There is a clam bar right on the docks that's a walk from our house -- we had lunch there last week out on the deck when it was nice, and it was awesome. Great italian place nearby (my italian food guru/food snob friend swears it's his favorite italian place anywhere, period). We even ate at an Indian place a few blocks away and it was as good as anything I've ever had on indian row here in the east village of NYC (except it had views of water from all sides and I didn't feel packed like sardines into a dungeon).There are some really ho-hum suburbs in the world, but we tried really hard to find one that had some life to it, and I think we found it.
 
You people are all clowns. Along with Otis. His questions are beyond ridiculous.
I've got this one guys. AE, In warmer climates, plants can grow outside during the year. Most people grow a blade shaped plant on the area around their house called "grass", and use a machine called a "lawnmower" to clip it back. Sometimes they even spend time on their "lawn" or even set aside an outdoor area called a "patio", with furniture that allows people to spend outside. "Summer" is a season, much like yours, except that the sun actually sets at night and then comes back up in the morning.
You are so ignorant it's pathetic. It's 7:30pm right now and still sunny. Summers in Fairbanks get into the 90s. But you go ahead and stroke Otis some more and recommend a patio chair to the sad city slicker. :thumbup:
http://wikipedia.org/summer+in+fairbanks"Yes, Summers in Fairbanks (also known as August 14th) are beautiful, but homeowners beware: they can melt the attic clear off your igloo."
AE is right. Some serious misunderstanding going on here. The summers in Anchorage are beautiful. It sits on the coast with a warm water current. Winters in Anchorage are actually warmer than Detroit on average. And you can roast in Fairbanks. Really sucks sometimes as it sits in a valley and the air gets stagnant which makes it very hot.
 
Property is 0.37 acres or so.
Just get a self-propelled push mower. Don't overdo it. Just get something with a Briggs and Stratton engine for about $350.
Here's the catch -- the front yard is all pachysandra, which just looks like weeds to me and which I want to pull out. But it may be there because (1) it's on a steep incline, and (2) there are lots of trees, so maybe it doesn't get much light for grass to grow. So because it's not a square/flat lawn like I grew up with, I wonder if I may be better off rolling with the advice in here and just having the gardening service take care of it all for now.I'll need to post some pics. The house needs a ton of work, but we'll get there...
 
Property is 0.37 acres or so. The hicks here shouldn't get too carried away with the ride-on stuff. Also the sellers mentioned they have a service, pretty cheap, whereby a bunch of illegals come by and cut the grass cheap each weekend. I may roll that way. I always wanted to have a lawn to mow, like when I was a kid, but I figure I can find other chores.
It isn't as much fun as you remember. You're going to have enough problems to deal with - get the service.
For .4 acres? :lmao:
 
Learn to go with the flow. There's almost nothing worse than living near people you cannot stand / having hostilities with neighbors. You may live near each other for years... even decades. So don't sweat the small stuff, and accept that we all do things that likely annoy someone else. In a neighborhood, you will constantly see/hear/smell (yea, smell) the people right around you. One guy doesn't clean up his leaves, and they blow on your lawn. The other guy gets out the blower daily, even in the spring. Another guy only cleans up the dog poop once a week, which can get pretty noticable certain July days. Someone else has a kid with the new speakers in his car who just has to let everyone know. Someone else has the smokiest grill ever. Etc etc. Go with the flow, and try to get along w/ everyone, at least on a head-nod basis.
And GUARANTEED that the family you can't stand will end up having a kid who is best friends with your kid. NEVER fails!
 
Property is 0.37 acres or so. The hicks here shouldn't get too carried away with the ride-on stuff. Also the sellers mentioned they have a service, pretty cheap, whereby a bunch of illegals come by and cut the grass cheap each weekend. I may roll that way. I always wanted to have a lawn to mow, like when I was a kid, but I figure I can find other chores.
It isn't as much fun as you remember. You're going to have enough problems to deal with - get the service.
For .4 acres? :lmao:
I wish I had .4 acres to mow myself. That hour outside by myself would be awesome every Saturday. No way I'd pay someone for that.
 
There are some really ho-hum suburbs in the world, but we tried really hard to find one that had some life to it, and I think we found it.
:yes: Diversity is key. Find a fairly densely populated suburb with various types of ethnic backgrounds and you'll have more (and better) options than the urban areas of 2nd and 3rd tier cities.
 
I wish I had .4 acres to mow myself. That hour outside by myself would be awesome every Saturday. No way I'd pay someone for that.
That only works if you get to decide the hour for mowing the lawn. I doubt if Otis has that kind of clout in the house. When the kid's screaming its head off, and the wife is talking about all her issues, and his blackberry is going off from work, and somebody has to go to the grocery store, Otis isn't gonna be able to just say "gotta go mow the lawn" and leave it all behind. His wife will expect him to squeeze that mowing into one of the incredibly scarce hours where he has nothing much else to do. Like, you know, during football games or during the time that he imagines himself lying outside in a hammock drinking a beer.
 
Ok, like I said, the house needs work, and I don't have great pics because we haven't moved in yet, but here's what I've got.

It's an odd layout -- the house is situated on a pretty hilly lot, and is almost sideways to the street (the street actually proceeds up directly towards it and then around the side). Here's an overhead view from Bing. It's hard to see elevations, but as that street curls around the side of the house, it's a grade upwards. The entire picture slopes down from top to bottom. So the driveway is on a steep grade up to the garage, which is at basement level, and then from the front there is a long series of concrete steps (which I'd love to redo with brick, stone, something) leading up to the front door. The immediate yard behind the house is small -- there is a short 8" tall wood deck there which serves as the patio. I'd love to redo all that. Then to the back left of the picture, behind that long curving white fence, is a decent sized chunk of backyard, but it's on a slope. At some point I think we need to level it out and do a retaining wall there to make it flat and useable. Immediately to the right of the house there is small patch of flat lawn, which then rolls down towards the front of the house where all the trees, bushes, and pachysandra are. There are retaining walls all around the front of the house, and then one behind the house separating us from the neighbor up above us. (Along that retaining wall, and all around the back of our yard, I'd love to install tall thick shrubs for privacy. I know we could have all of this done professionally if money were no object, but given that we in the past two years paid for a ring/wedding/house and have a baby on the way, and we're having the kitchen gut renovated, we'll have to either wait on a lot of these projects or I'll have to start sniping off one-at-a-time the projects I can potentially handle myself.

Again, I know the picture sucks, I'll see if I can do better.

Here is a pic of the front of the house, from the top of the driveway looking up at the front of it, and below that the very back of the house(you can see the gravel patio along with the corner of a short wood "deck."

Note that we can't wait until we can re-side it with white siding and black shutters, and put a small portaco at the front entrance. But it doesn't look terrible for now either.

Here's a Google earth angle from the front. You can see the driving heading around to the left, but in the middle you can also sort of make out the concrete steps/walkway up to the front door/house level. The steps are just plain concrete and are cracking in some places -- structurally they are fine, but they are not very nice looking at all. We'll need to do something about that too. To the right is the shrubs/pachysandra, with the lawn just up above that.

 
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Property is 0.37 acres or so. The hicks here shouldn't get too carried away with the ride-on stuff. Also the sellers mentioned they have a service, pretty cheap, whereby a bunch of illegals come by and cut the grass cheap each weekend. I may roll that way. I always wanted to have a lawn to mow, like when I was a kid, but I figure I can find other chores.
It isn't as much fun as you remember. You're going to have enough problems to deal with - get the service.
For .4 acres? :lmao:
I wish I had .4 acres to mow myself. That hour outside by myself would be awesome every Saturday. No way I'd pay someone for that.
:goodposting: Have a little over .5 acres and make sure to milk it for all its worth.Get done, make some noise like Im cleaning things up in the garage as I grab a couple of beers from the outside fridge. Its a nice little spring afternoon.
 
There are some really ho-hum suburbs in the world, but we tried really hard to find one that had some life to it, and I think we found it.
:yes: Diversity is key. Find a fairly densely populated suburb with various types of ethnic backgrounds and you'll have more (and better) options than the urban areas of 2nd and 3rd tier cities.
Yup, this was high on our list too. We didn't want a homogeneous crowd, and our area is also pretty diverse (ethnically and economically).
 
Property is 0.37 acres or so. The hicks here shouldn't get too carried away with the ride-on stuff. Also the sellers mentioned they have a service, pretty cheap, whereby a bunch of illegals come by and cut the grass cheap each weekend. I may roll that way. I always wanted to have a lawn to mow, like when I was a kid, but I figure I can find other chores.
It isn't as much fun as you remember. You're going to have enough problems to deal with - get the service.
For .4 acres? :lmao:
I wish I had .4 acres to mow myself. That hour outside by myself would be awesome every Saturday. No way I'd pay someone for that.
:goodposting: Have a little over .5 acres and make sure to milk it for all its worth.Get done, make some noise like Im cleaning things up in the garage as I grab a couple of beers from the outside fridge. Its a nice little spring afternoon.
See, this does sound kind of awesome.
 
Good God. Suburb living basically sounds like my personal daily hell.
It's funny but even just three years ago inwould have agreed with this. Now I absolutely cannot wait to get out there. The city is great if you're youn and single. Beyon that? Give me a little patch of land, a backyard, some space, trees, and a breezy summer day. I can't wait until we get out there and have our first drink in the yard. I'm giddy.
You should be giddy. In all seriousness, this is really, really nice. One of the best parts of owning a home.
 
Here's a Google earth angle from the front. You can see the driving heading around to the left, but in the middle you can also sort of make out the concrete steps/walkway up to the front door/house level. The steps are just plain concrete and are cracking in some places -- structurally they are fine, but they are not very nice looking at all. We'll need to do something about that too. To the right is the shrubs/pachysandra, with the lawn just up above that.
I'd leave the pachysandra there. That area looks like it'll be tough to grow good grass in, no matter if the grass seed says it's for "shade". Pachysandra, on the other hand, is great ground cover for shady areas.Looks like a really nice house. Grats.

 
I wish I had .4 acres to mow myself. That hour outside by myself would be awesome every Saturday. No way I'd pay someone for that.
That only works if you get to decide the hour for mowing the lawn. I doubt if Otis has that kind of clout in the house. When the kid's screaming its head off, and the wife is talking about all her issues, and his blackberry is going off from work, and somebody has to go to the grocery store, Otis isn't gonna be able to just say "gotta go mow the lawn" and leave it all behind. His wife will expect him to squeeze that mowing into one of the incredibly scarce hours where he has nothing much else to do. Like, you know, during football games or during the time that he imagines himself lying outside in a hammock drinking a beer.
:goodposting: I love mowing the lawn. And working on house projects. And golfing. And lying in a hammock drinking beer. But I have a 3 year old and a 1 year old. A long commute to work and the weekends get booked up with family plans and other stuff.Time is scarce. Outsoure, outsource, outsource.
 

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