Otis in the Suburbs (3 Viewers)

[Early_10]

I have pretty much the same wood ceilings and the thing I love most is you don't have to paint them.

 

[Tiger Fan]

I'm in the "Don't paint over wood camp as well"

Otis - can you post a larger picture of the room with the wood so we can get a better perspective?

 

[Tiny Dancer]

I'm in the camp of "wouldn't it have been easier to paint the ceiling without a brand new ceiling fan in the way?"

 

[Sammy3469]

I'm in the camp of "wouldn't it have been easier to paint the ceiling without a brand new ceiling fan in the way?"

I have a feeling that camp will be growing soon

 

[lumpy19]

I'm in the camp of hiring a contractor, removing the wood ceiling and slapping up some drywall and painting it white.

 

[Tiger Fan]

I'm in the camp of "wouldn't it have been easier to paint the ceiling without a brand new ceiling fan in the way?"

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

I just remember tearing off coats and coats of hideous paint to bring out lots of beautiful hardwood in the house my parents bought.

His ceiling appears to be pine. Neither beautiful, nor a hardwood.

I get not painting over quality oak, or mahogany, ect.But that looks like basic pine paneling. Painting it or ripping it out and sheet rocking it all is the way to go.

 

[ODoyleRules]

I'm in the camp of "wouldn't it have been easier to paint the ceiling without a brand new ceiling fan in the way?"

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

I'm in the camp of hiring a contractor, removing the wood ceiling and slapping up some drywall and painting it white.

lumpy is wise. And while you've got it open, drop in some speakers and recessed lighting :wired:

 

[urbanhack]

I really thought people stopped painting over wood in the 70s.

at people who think this is a good idea.

Still uber confused by this. You're on an island here, friend.

oh no he's not

 

[mr roboto]

I'm in the camp of hiring a contractor, removing the wood ceiling and slapping up some drywall and painting it white.

lumpy is wise. And while you've got it open, drop in some speakers and recessed lighting :wired:

I have spent too many thousands of dollars with the phrase in bold. And no, it's not a double entendre.This is also how contractors drum up more business. "Well, since we have gone this far." "Now that we pulled the floors up, you have a great opportunity..."

 

[mr roboto]

I really thought people stopped painting over wood in the 70s.

at people who think this is a good idea.

Still uber confused by this. You're on an island here, friend.

oh no he's not

I love that painted woodwork is considered 70's. Cause stained basic oak trim is so the 90's. I bet all you stained trim guys loved the ceiling fan Otis ripped out, and you have forest green painted somewhere else too.

I rehab houses. 9 out of 10 first-time suburban homebuyers who are looking at my flips love the painted, white trim. Especially contrasted with hardwood floors.

 

[lumpy19]

I'm in the camp of hiring a contractor, removing the wood ceiling and slapping up some drywall and painting it white.

lumpy is wise. And while you've got it open, drop in some speakers and recessed lighting :wired:

oooohhhhh

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

That may be the issue here. That's not "beautiful hardwood.". Like beaded planks and it's very blah. It will look great painted in white -- almost like a wainscoating detail on the ceiling. Then again what the hell do I know.

I guess I didn't really look at the picture that closely. Glll.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

9 out of 10 first-time suburban homebuyers who are looking at my flips love the painted, white trim. Especially contrasted with hardwood floors.

I'm guessing this might be the issue.

 

[Reaper]

That may be the issue here. That's not "beautiful hardwood.". Like beaded planks and it's very blah. It will look great painted in white -- almost like a wainscoating detail on the ceiling. Then again what the hell do I know.

I guess I didn't really look at the picture that closely. Glll. Still think it might make more sense to take it down than to paint over.

I bet that they would just put up a thin Sheetrock right over that stuff in no time.

 

[Nigel]

I love that painted woodwork is considered 70's. Cause stained basic oak trim is so the 90's.

I bet all you stained trim guys loved the ceiling fan Otis ripped out, and you have forest green painted somewhere else too.

I rehab houses. 9 out of 10 first-time suburban homebuyers who are looking at my flips love the painted, white trim. Especially contrasted with hardwood floors.

- especially the bolded. Can't stand the unpainted oak trim look, which is usually accompanied by unpainted oak doors. Awful.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

I love that painted woodwork is considered 70's. Cause stained basic oak trim is so the 90's.

I bet all you stained trim guys loved the ceiling fan Otis ripped out, and you have forest green painted somewhere else too.

I rehab houses. 9 out of 10 first-time suburban homebuyers who are looking at my flips love the painted, white trim. Especially contrasted with hardwood floors.

- especially the bolded.

Can't stand the unpainted oak trim look, which is usually accompanied by unpainted oak doors. Awful.

just spent a ton of money ordering oak doors for our downstairs rooms. I intend to stain them.

 

[corpcow]

I really thought people stopped painting over wood in the 70s.

at people who think this is a good idea.

Still uber confused by this. You're on an island here, friend.

oh no he's not

I love that painted woodwork is considered 70's. Cause stained basic oak trim is so the 90's. I bet all you stained trim guys loved the ceiling fan Otis ripped out, and you have forest green painted somewhere else too.

I rehab houses. 9 out of 10 first-time suburban homebuyers who are looking at my flips love the painted, white trim. Especially contrasted with hardwood floors.

We re-stained our floors with a red mahogany, and re-painted the already-white trim to an even brighter white. Trying to post a picture but can't grab them off Facebook.

 

[corpcow]

25k on furniture?

Then again, maybe we've spent 10-15k, and it sounds like our place is a bunch smaller than his.

God. That's an extremely awesome vacation. You could go to Europe for a month like a king on that dough.

It's not that much money for buying good quality furniture for an entire home. 1k - bed in a box

3k - complete bedroom set

3k - dining room set

2k - living room furniture

2k - nice sleeper sofa for den

3k - LED TV

1k - BBQ

500-1k - patio set

It goes fast.

Man, you people love to spend money. 1k for a grill and 3k for LED TV these days?

For what it's worth, I spent less than $2k on a 55" Samsung LED 3D TV (with 2 glasses, even). And I expect my grill will be int eh $500 range.But, real furniture is expensive man....

It's expensive, but if you go to a store, the prices are negotiable. This is something I learned after dropping several grand on office furniture I haven't bought anything at sticker since.

It all depends on the store. On a local store selling from a warehouse (as much office furniture dealers seem to be), maybe. (I just furnished our new offices from a local place here, and yes, it was negotiable). At Pottery Barn, Ethan Allen, et al, not so much.I know a lot of people would go down to the NC plants where this is all made and you can negotiate with them.

Oh yeah, I also forgot to include the $2k for a fridge and $1k for washer/dryer.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

I really thought people stopped painting over wood in the 70s.

at people who think this is a good idea.

Still uber confused by this. You're on an island here, friend.

oh no he's not

I love that painted woodwork is considered 70's. Cause stained basic oak trim is so the 90's. I bet all you stained trim guys loved the ceiling fan Otis ripped out, and you have forest green painted somewhere else too.

I rehab houses. 9 out of 10 first-time suburban homebuyers who are looking at my flips love the painted, white trim. Especially contrasted with hardwood floors.

We re-stained our floors with a red mahogany, and re-painted the already-white trim to an even brighter white. Trying to post a picture but can't grab them off Facebook.

open your pics pageright click on the one you want to post and click on "open in new tab"

go to new tab, right click on picture, click "view image"

you will now be able to copy the url and paste it here

 

[corpcow]

I really thought people stopped painting over wood in the 70s.

at people who think this is a good idea.

Still uber confused by this. You're on an island here, friend.

oh no he's not

I love that painted woodwork is considered 70's. Cause stained basic oak trim is so the 90's. I bet all you stained trim guys loved the ceiling fan Otis ripped out, and you have forest green painted somewhere else too.

I rehab houses. 9 out of 10 first-time suburban homebuyers who are looking at my flips love the painted, white trim. Especially contrasted with hardwood floors.

We re-stained our floors with a red mahogany, and re-painted the already-white trim to an even brighter white. Trying to post a picture but can't grab them off Facebook.

open your pics pageright click on the one you want to post and click on "open in new tab"

go to new tab, right click on picture, click "view image"

you will now be able to copy the url and paste it here

Heh... yeah, I know. I wasn't paying attention (was answering questions from one of my devs), and I guess when I inspected element I was looking at the wrong thing in the lightbox and was actually on the local file. Thought at first that FB was streaming in the lightbox. Oops.

tag down?

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/216493_768729717430_10911337_39379540_6102886_n.jpg

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/216512_768729522820_10911337_39379534_4220650_n.jpg

 

[Nigel]

Heh... yeah, I know. I wasn't paying attention (was answering questions from one of my devs), and I guess when I inspected element I was looking at the wrong thing in the lightbox and was actually on the local file. Thought at first that FB was streaming in the lightbox. Oops.

tag down?

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/216493_768729717430_10911337_39379540_6102886_n.jpg

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/216512_768729522820_10911337_39379534_4220650_n.jpg

very nice

 

[corpcow]

I really thought people stopped painting over wood in the 70s.

at people who think this is a good idea.

Still uber confused by this. You're on an island here, friend.

oh no he's not

I love that painted woodwork is considered 70's. Cause stained basic oak trim is so the 90's. I bet all you stained trim guys loved the ceiling fan Otis ripped out, and you have forest green painted somewhere else too.

I rehab houses. 9 out of 10 first-time suburban homebuyers who are looking at my flips love the painted, white trim. Especially contrasted with hardwood floors.

We re-stained our floors with a red mahogany, and re-painted the already-white trim to an even brighter white. Trying to post a picture but can't grab them off Facebook.

open your pics pageright click on the one you want to post and click on "open in new tab"

go to new tab, right click on picture, click "view image"

you will now be able to copy the url and paste it here

Heh... yeah, I know. I wasn't paying attention (was answering questions from one of my devs), and I guess I inspected element and ended up opening the local file, thinking at first that maybe they were streaming the data to the AJAX lightbox. Oops.Some of the after pictures are a little older, but they show what I'm talking about. The darker floors + whiter trim (plus darker than original paint) makes a BIG difference IMO.

BEFORE:

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/167982_709558242540_10911337_39060544_3368914_n.jpg

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/168774_709557878270_10911337_39060540_6618721_n.jpg

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/167162_709557898230_10911337_39060541_516816_n.jpg

AFTER

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/181906_709554884270_10911337_39060492_4072725_n.jpg

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/216493_768729717430_10911337_39379540_6102886_n.jpg

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/183991_712729008300_10911337_39116657_1169026_n.jpg

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/216512_768729522820_10911337_39379534_4220650_n.jpg

Oh yeah, and that ugly ### fan is gone too

 

[Otis]

I'm in the camp of "wouldn't it have been easier to paint the ceiling without a brand new ceiling fan in the way?"

The painter's problem, not mine

 

[Otis]

I love that painted woodwork is considered 70's. Cause stained basic oak trim is so the 90's.

I bet all you stained trim guys loved the ceiling fan Otis ripped out, and you have forest green painted somewhere else too.

I rehab houses. 9 out of 10 first-time suburban homebuyers who are looking at my flips love the painted, white trim. Especially contrasted with hardwood floors.

- especially the bolded. Can't stand the unpainted oak trim look, which is usually accompanied by unpainted oak doors. Awful.

 

[Otis]

Heh... yeah, I know. I wasn't paying attention (was answering questions from one of my devs), and I guess when I inspected element I was looking at the wrong thing in the lightbox and was actually on the local file. Thought at first that FB was streaming in the lightbox. Oops.

tag down?

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/216493_768729717430_10911337_39379540_6102886_n.jpg

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/216512_768729522820_10911337_39379534_4220650_n.jpg

very nice

This. :jealous:

 

[glock]

I really thought people stopped painting over wood in the 70s.

at people who think this is a good idea.

Still uber confused by this. You're on an island here, friend.

Uh, nope. Wood = good. Painted wood = ugly as ####.Wife and I bid on a house 2 years ago....the brochure had a living room with gorgeous woodwork, wood beams in the ceiling. We walked in and the whole ####### room was white. I asked our realtor what happened...."well, they thought the room was too dark so they painted it over." Me: "who suggested that?" Realtor: "um, the seller's realtor suggested it." Me: "Tell the seller's realtor that I want it written into the contract that they will have the wood stripped and re-finished....but here is the kicker....I want the ####### realtor to be the one who strips the wood personally."

 

[Tiny Dancer]

I'm in the camp of "wouldn't it have been easier to paint the ceiling without a brand new ceiling fan in the way?"

The painter's problem, not mine

Not that the fan is a big deal, but as a general rule, you probably want to make things easier for people you hire, because then they will quote you lower prices. So, like, chopping down a bunch of trees and leaving on your lawn for the landscaper to clean up or putting up a ceiling fan for the painter to work around could potentially be costing you extra money.

 

[Garrett]

I always just assumed builders/owners used the painted white woodwork because it was cheaper in materials and labor; not that it was ever actually the preferred option.



Much lower grade wood and the paint hides mistakes in craftsmanship. For example, I think earlier in this thread someone asked about potential crown molding and if you were going to paint it you would probably be OK to DIY, since the paint would help hide any mistakes. I guess it certainly does look much different and I would imagine some people prefer the way it looks. I am not trying to knock either opinion; it is just really interesting to hear what is normal or preferred in different parts of the country.

 

[Chaos Commish]

My mom's home was built in 72. It has open beam ceilings. The wood was stained olive/army green by the original builder. I bleached them in her master bedroom and with a ton of work was eventually able to get a decent colored wood stain. It was too much work though, so we primed the green in the rest of the house to light gray then finished them in bright white. She now likes the painted beams better than the stained ones because while looking at several multimillion dollar homes for sale in Beverly Hills she noticed over and over again that the beams have been painted white.

She wasn't home shopping in BH, just getting ideas for a remodel...

 

[belljr]

I really thought people stopped painting over wood in the 70s.

at people who think this is a good idea.

Still uber confused by this. You're on an island here, friend.

oh no he's not

I love that painted woodwork is considered 70's. Cause stained basic oak trim is so the 90's. I bet all you stained trim guys loved the ceiling fan Otis ripped out, and you have forest green painted somewhere else too.

I rehab houses. 9 out of 10 first-time suburban homebuyers who are looking at my flips love the painted, white trim. Especially contrasted with hardwood floors.

We re-stained our floors with a red mahogany, and re-painted the already-white trim to an even brighter white. Trying to post a picture but can't grab them off Facebook.

open your pics pageright click on the one you want to post and click on "open in new tab"

go to new tab, right click on picture, click "view image"

you will now be able to copy the url and paste it here

Heh... yeah, I know. I wasn't paying attention (was answering questions from one of my devs), and I guess I inspected element and ended up opening the local file, thinking at first that maybe they were streaming the data to the AJAX lightbox. Oops.Some of the after pictures are a little older, but they show what I'm talking about. The darker floors + whiter trim (plus darker than original paint) makes a BIG difference IMO.

BEFORE:

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/167982_709558242540_10911337_39060544_3368914_n.jpg

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/168774_709557878270_10911337_39060540_6618721_n.jpg

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/167162_709557898230_10911337_39060541_516816_n.jpg

AFTER

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/181906_709554884270_10911337_39060492_4072725_n.jpg

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/216493_768729717430_10911337_39379540_6102886_n.jpg

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/183991_712729008300_10911337_39116657_1169026_n.jpg

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/216512_768729522820_10911337_39379534_4220650_n.jpg

Oh yeah, and that ugly ### fan is gone too

Did you use a stripper on the exisiting wood work...

 

[urbanhack]

We painted the trim the same color as the walls with hardwood floors.

 

[Sconch]

You know what would look good on that natural wood? Wallpaper.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

That may be the issue here. That's not "beautiful hardwood.". Like beaded planks and it's very blah. It will look great painted in white -- almost like a wainscoating detail on the ceiling. Then again what the hell do I know.

I guess I didn't really look at the picture that closely. Glll. Still think it might make more sense to take it down than to paint over.

I bet that they would just put up a thin Sheetrock right over that stuff in no time.

Hell, oat could do that. Working around the fan will be a pain in the ### though.

 

[Otis]

I'm in the camp of "wouldn't it have been easier to paint the ceiling without a brand new ceiling fan in the way?"

The painter's problem, not mine

Not that the fan is a big deal, but as a general rule, you probably want to make things easier for people you hire, because then they will quote you lower prices. So, like, chopping down a bunch of trees and leaving on your lawn for the landscaper to clean up or putting up a ceiling fan for the painter to work around could potentially be costing you extra money.

There was already a ceiling fan there when he gave us the quote.

 

[Otis]

***GRILL ACQUIRED***

Local hardware store delivered one of these and set it up in my backyard today:

http://www.weber.com/explore/grills/genesis-series/genesis-s-330



Also, the patio set is in. Otis just needs to put it together.

 

[Mopap]

I'm in the camp of hiring a contractor, removing the wood ceiling and slapping up some drywall and painting it white.

+1 Going to be a PITA to paint between those slats.

Otis, I know you plan to hire a painter, this time. But you might find yourself doing this job in a few years. Having a drywall ceilling will make the job much easier going forward.

 

[urbanhack]

***GRILL ACQUIRED***

Local hardware store delivered one of these and set it up in my backyard today:

http://www.weber.com/explore/grills/genesis-series/genesis-s-330



Also, the patio set is in. Otis just needs to put it together.

What do you mean they "set it up?"

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

***GRILL ACQUIRED***

Local hardware store delivered one of these and set it up in my backyard today:

http://www.weber.com/explore/grills/genesis-series/genesis-s-330



Also, the patio set is in. Otis just needs to put it together.

What do you mean they "set it up?"

I've heard that putting together a gas grill can be a pain.

 

[Nigel]

***GRILL ACQUIRED***

Local hardware store delivered one of these and set it up in my backyard today:

http://www.weber.com/explore/grills/genesis-series/genesis-s-330



Also, the patio set is in. Otis just needs to put it together.

What do you mean they "set it up?"

I've heard that putting together a gas grill can be a pain.

yes it is - well worth the extra $20 or whatever it is to have them do it.

 

[urbanhack]

just curious if it was just screwing on the lid or putting the entire thing together.

 

[corpcow]

***GRILL ACQUIRED***

Local hardware store delivered one of these and set it up in my backyard today:

http://www.weber.com/explore/grills/genesis-series/genesis-s-330



Also, the patio set is in. Otis just needs to put it together.

What do you mean they "set it up?"

I've heard that putting together a gas grill can be a pain.

yes it is - well worth the extra $20 or whatever it is to have them do it.

Having just done this for my inlaws for a grill we got them for Xmas, I can confirm it is. Sears offers free setup.

 

[ODoyleRules]

My Weber gas grill took about 30 minutes to set up myself.

Also I endorse the spare propane tank idea that was brought up earlier.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

***GRILL ACQUIRED***Local hardware store delivered one of these and set it up in my backyard today:http://www.weber.com/explore/grills/genesis-series/genesis-s-330Also, the patio set is in. Otis just needs to put it together.

ProBurb Tip #11092: Start seasoning those grates. scrape before and after, and olive oil before and after.

 

[Otis]

***GRILL ACQUIRED***

Local hardware store delivered one of these and set it up in my backyard today:

http://www.weber.com/explore/grills/genesis-series/genesis-s-330



Also, the patio set is in. Otis just needs to put it together.

What do you mean they "set it up?"

I've heard that putting together a gas grill can be a pain.

yes it is - well worth the extra $20 or whatever it is to have them do it.

Free of charge I ended up paying more than I would have if I bought online, but those places promise delivery in 6 weeks, and I'd rather support the local mom and pop hardware store and local commerce generally, even if it does cost a few extra bucks. :goodcitizen:

Also, they said they will send someone over every year for a seasonal cleaning, free of charge.

 

[Otis]

Also I endorse the spare propane tank idea that was brought up earlier.

Bought it with a cover and two propane tanks, all delivered today Now I just have to figure out how to work it. I remember once as a kid I nearly blew my face off when my dad asked me to go outside and warm up the grill, and so I turned on the gas with the lid closed, took a few seconds to figure out how to light it, and by the time I clicked the ignition switch, the whole thing jumped about a foot off the ground and blew out a giant fireball at me.

 

[Otis]

***GRILL ACQUIRED***Local hardware store delivered one of these and set it up in my backyard today:http://www.weber.com/explore/grills/genesis-series/genesis-s-330Also, the patio set is in. Otis just needs to put it together.

ProBurb Tip #11092: Start seasoning those grates. scrape before and after, and olive oil before and after.

Who the what now?

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

spending $1000 on a grill you don't even know how to light is pretty good shtick.

 

[Chaos Commish]

Nice Grill and good job using the local store.

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