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glue traps and peanut butter
We get a mouse from time to time and use those box traps that are coated in some unbelievably sticky crap that the mice can't get out of. Catch and toss in the dumpster. Problem solved.
glue traps and peanut butter
We get a mouse from time to time and use those box traps that are coated in some unbelievably sticky crap that the mice can't get out of. Catch and toss in the dumpster. Problem solved.
See Mr. Pickles for the official tally.'the moops said:O - How much money have you dropped on this house of yours since moving in?
Finished or unfinished basement? Do you have kids?'ODoyleRules said:I'm too lazy to start a new thread, so let me ask this here:
Spotted a mouse in our basement last night. What's the hawk move for getting rid of this? We don't have a dog or cat and I'm really not concerned about being humane. D-con? Mousetrap?
How should I know? I've asked.Factoring in that backsplash savings will be pretty huge.See Mr. Pickles for the official tally.'the moops said:O - How much money have you dropped on this house of yours since moving in?
Finished basement with kids 3 and 5. (though I spotted the critter in the unfinished storage part). I'm still trying to figure out how it got in. The sump pump discharge pipe outside the house came loose earlier this week and I'm wondering it if came in Andy Dufresne style.Finished or unfinished basement? Do you have kids?'ODoyleRules said:I'm too lazy to start a new thread, so let me ask this here:
Spotted a mouse in our basement last night. What's the hawk move for getting rid of this? We don't have a dog or cat and I'm really not concerned about being humane. D-con? Mousetrap?
See Mr. Pickles for the official tally.'the moops said:O - How much money have you dropped on this house of yours since moving in?

Told ya....'Otis said:Guy came by to give us an estimate on installing a railing today. 2200 bucks. His comment to my wife, repeatedly:"I just can't believe you guys bought a house without a railing. The inspector should have caught this."Heading back to look at the inspection report to see if I can take it up with them.

Home inspection is a racket, if you haven't figured that out already. They charge, what, $400 or so, and spend about 20 minutes looking at the house. Nice gig.'Otis said:Guy came by to give us an estimate on installing a railing today. 2200 bucks. His comment to my wife, repeatedly:"I just can't believe you guys bought a house without a railing. The inspector should have caught this."Heading back to look at the inspection report to see if I can take it up with them.
Wait and see, he'll have no recourse with the inspector.Told ya....'Otis said:Guy came by to give us an estimate on installing a railing today. 2200 bucks. His comment to my wife, repeatedly:"I just can't believe you guys bought a house without a railing. The inspector should have caught this."Heading back to look at the inspection report to see if I can take it up with them.
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More then likely right...which sux the big one. I was merely agreeing with the GC's comments about the inspector should have caught it. To me, if it is such a blatant code violation, Oats should be able to go back on them for that oversight. That's negligence to me.Wait and see, he'll have no recourse with the inspector.Told ya....'Otis said:Guy came by to give us an estimate on installing a railing today. 2200 bucks. His comment to my wife, repeatedly:"I just can't believe you guys bought a house without a railing. The inspector should have caught this."Heading back to look at the inspection report to see if I can take it up with them.
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I have no idea how you can even pay for the materials with $500, unless you're just going to paint some pine 2x4s. Assuming you're installing railing on 3 sides (one side attached to the house), that's $6.66 a linear foot.'The Commish said:Guess it's just the area...we are planning a 25 x 25 ft deck and doing it in a trex like product. The railings will be about $500 total for product. I'll be installing it though.'Otis said:It's about right. I got another estimate for 2k give or take. It's around three sides of a flat roof that is about 24x15 or so).'The Commish said:How big is this area that needs a railing? That seems like a buttload to put up an railing unless it's like 300-400 sq ft.'Otis said:Guy came by to give us an estimate on installing a railing today. 2200 bucks. His comment to my wife, repeatedly:"I just can't believe you guys bought a house without a railing. The inspector should have caught this."Heading back to look at the inspection report to see if I can take it up with them.
It's two sides, not three. Two sides will be attached to the house. It's 50 total feet. $10 per linear foot plus tax.I have no idea how you can even pay for the materials with $500, unless you're just going to paint some pine 2x4s. Assuming you're installing railing on 3 sides (one side attached to the house), that's $6.66 a linear foot.'The Commish said:Guess it's just the area...we are planning a 25 x 25 ft deck and doing it in a trex like product. The railings will be about $500 total for product. I'll be installing it though.'Otis said:It's about right. I got another estimate for 2k give or take. It's around three sides of a flat roof that is about 24x15 or so).'The Commish said:How big is this area that needs a railing? That seems like a buttload to put up an railing unless it's like 300-400 sq ft.'Otis said:Guy came by to give us an estimate on installing a railing today. 2200 bucks. His comment to my wife, repeatedly:"I just can't believe you guys bought a house without a railing. The inspector should have caught this."Heading back to look at the inspection report to see if I can take it up with them.
The guy I used spent 4 hours and his findings got the seller to pay almost all of our closing costs.Home inspection is a racket, if you haven't figured that out already. They charge, what, $400 or so, and spend about 20 minutes looking at the house. Nice gig.

My wife and I did this one year and almost ended up divorcing. Hired the guy that did our countertops to replace the backsplash the second time around. Best $250 I ever spent.'Otis said:Did I mention I'm going to do a tile backsplash in the kitchen myself? Old pro...![]()
Ours spent 4 hours and he cleared all the big stuff I really cared about -- structural, roofing, septic, electrical, etc. Yeah it would have been nice if he'd caught this so I could have quibbled about it and had the seller kick in and probably split the difference with us (1k), but there is still some peace of mind in the stuff he actually did inspect.But yeah, I called and e-mailed the company about it today. We'll see if we can get anything out of it.The guy I used spent 4 hours and his findings got the seller to pay almost all of our closing costs.Home inspection is a racket, if you haven't figured that out already. They charge, what, $400 or so, and spend about 20 minutes looking at the house. Nice gig.![]()
Been following this thread for the most part (have caught about 80% of the pages) and I have gone from laughing at the rookie homeowner to actually learning some stuff.In particular, thanks for the info on ThermaCELL and Homeseer. Good stuff.![]()
it's a mixed bag of awesome imomore lumber jackin', I hope. I never got to see the first video hear the Mrs. Oat giggle.OAT,
WHAT'S ON TAP FOR THIS WEEKEND???
DON't use those old fashion snap mousetrapshere's the top 5 reasons1) you get the occasional bleeder2) once in a great while you get a thrasher3) one time I even saw one dragging it around4) those things are easy to set and don't hurt much, but for some unknown reason i was always SUPER damn nervous while setting them and inevitably ended up snapping myself5) the SNAP sound when they go off is unsettling'ODoyleRules said:'Aaron Rudnicki said:glue traps and peanut butter'The Commish said:We get a mouse from time to time and use those box traps that are coated in some unbelievably sticky crap that the mice can't get out of. Catch and toss in the dumpster. Problem solved.I didn't tell the wifey, so hopefully I can't take care of this this weekend.
sealing the door would be the insta-fix.What if you just rail off a tiny fraction of the roof, like a 4'x4' area? Unless you're planning on using the roof as a major part of your lounging area, there's really no point in sinking $2K in that right now. You can revisit it when you have more time and money.
So basically you're saying that Tom & Jerry cartoon was a farce and not to be taken seriously? thanks for the tip.DON't use those old fashion snap mousetrapshere's the top 5 reasons1) you get the occasional bleeder2) once in a great while you get a thrasher3) one time I even saw one dragging it around4) those things are easy to set and don't hurt much, but for some unknown reason i was always SUPER damn nervous while setting them and inevitably ended up snapping myself5) the SNAP sound when they go off is unsettling'ODoyleRules said:'Aaron Rudnicki said:glue traps and peanut butter'The Commish said:We get a mouse from time to time and use those box traps that are coated in some unbelievably sticky crap that the mice can't get out of. Catch and toss in the dumpster. Problem solved.I didn't tell the wifey, so hopefully I can't take care of this this weekend.
Finished or drop ceiling?Finished basement with kids 3 and 5. (though I spotted the critter in the unfinished storage part). I'm still trying to figure out how it got in. The sump pump discharge pipe outside the house came loose earlier this week and I'm wondering it if came in Andy Dufresne style.Finished or unfinished basement? Do you have kids?'ODoyleRules said:I'm too lazy to start a new thread, so let me ask this here:
Spotted a mouse in our basement last night. What's the hawk move for getting rid of this? We don't have a dog or cat and I'm really not concerned about being humane. D-con? Mousetrap?
Drop ceiling. (oh man would that suck trying to find an entry point up there - I wouldn't even bother)Finished or drop ceiling?Finished basement with kids 3 and 5. (though I spotted the critter in the unfinished storage part). I'm still trying to figure out how it got in. The sump pump discharge pipe outside the house came loose earlier this week and I'm wondering it if came in Andy Dufresne style.Finished or unfinished basement? Do you have kids?'ODoyleRules said:I'm too lazy to start a new thread, so let me ask this here:
Spotted a mouse in our basement last night. What's the hawk move for getting rid of this? We don't have a dog or cat and I'm really not concerned about being humane. D-con? Mousetrap?
OAT,WHAT'S ON TAP FOR THIS WEEKEND???
Haven't seen the official itinerary yetBoth of these options sound pretty redneck to me. I do think the railing would look nice -- again, we noticed it as an aesthetic matter that it was missing, and said that we would want to add one at some point. So I'm happy just to do it right the first time and forget about it. With all these expenses, another 2k is starting to feel like a drop in the proverbial bucket...sealing the door would be the insta-fix.What if you just rail off a tiny fraction of the roof, like a 4'x4' area? Unless you're planning on using the roof as a major part of your lounging area, there's really no point in sinking $2K in that right now. You can revisit it when you have more time and money.
OAT,
WHAT'S ON TAP FOR THIS WEEKEND???Haven't seen the official itinerary yet
- Masonry guys- two different guys are coming by tomorrow AM to give estimates. I'm learning that getting multiple estimates is a really good idea. Based on the numbers you guys have been kicking around in here, I'm sort of terrified at what the prices will be. We'll see. A new front stoop really would make the entrance a lot nicer, and a new patio, and ripping out the wood deck, needs to happen. Of course, ripping out the wood deck probably involves ripping out the attached giant wooden planter attached to it, so I'm really glad I spent last Sunday morning planting a ton of flowers in there.![]()
When's the last time you looked up there? Would be a good place to put traps/decon if you have kids.Drop ceiling. (oh man would that suck trying to find an entry point up there - I wouldn't even bother)Finished or drop ceiling?Finished basement with kids 3 and 5. (though I spotted the critter in the unfinished storage part). I'm still trying to figure out how it got in. The sump pump discharge pipe outside the house came loose earlier this week and I'm wondering it if came in Andy Dufresne style.Finished or unfinished basement? Do you have kids?'ODoyleRules said:I'm too lazy to start a new thread, so let me ask this here:
Spotted a mouse in our basement last night. What's the hawk move for getting rid of this? We don't have a dog or cat and I'm really not concerned about being humane. D-con? Mousetrap?
SuburboProTip#3.14Home Depot sells sod. Buy sod, lay sod, bare spots begone! (granted it isn't primo stuff, but it works for quick fills and isn't full of weeds in my experience).OAT,
WHAT'S ON TAP FOR THIS WEEKEND???Haven't seen the official itinerary yet
WEEKEND STATUS REPORT !111one
- Lawn - There are a few spots in the lawn that are bare, and where I'm tempted to rake the dirt a little and sprinkle in some grass seed, just to see what happens. I'm sure that'll go over well.
Also I plan to sit in my yard and drink some beers in the sun this weekend.![]()
So I just cut out a square of dirt and roll out the sod there?Damned sod part will look a whole lot nicer than the rest of the lawn. Maybe I should just wait for next season and start from square one with this lawn thing...SuburboProTip#3.14Home Depot sells sod. Buy sod, lay sod, bare spots begone! (granted it isn't primo stuff, but it works for quick fills and isn't full of weeds in my experience).OAT,
WHAT'S ON TAP FOR THIS WEEKEND???Haven't seen the official itinerary yet
WEEKEND STATUS REPORT !111one
- Lawn - There are a few spots in the lawn that are bare, and where I'm tempted to rake the dirt a little and sprinkle in some grass seed, just to see what happens. I'm sure that'll go over well.
Also I plan to sit in my yard and drink some beers in the sun this weekend.![]()
The problem is only partly my worry of a monster rat dropping out of the ceiling. The biggest problem is that 90% of the tiles are wedged in there really tight. I've replaced 4 or 5 tiles due to water spots and each was a PITA. You're right though, prolly good idea to drop some d-con up there.edit - I just laid down 2 of the HomeDefense box-type traps this afternoon. Debated on crunchy v. creamy peanut butter for bait but ultimately went with creamy.When's the last time you looked up there? Would be a good place to put traps/decon if you have kids.Drop ceiling. (oh man would that suck trying to find an entry point up there - I wouldn't even bother)Finished or drop ceiling?
When dealing with grass, you'll want to do it in the fall if at all possible. Are the bare spots in the sun or the shade?So I just cut out a square of dirt and roll out the sod there?Damned sod part will look a whole lot nicer than the rest of the lawn. Maybe I should just wait for next season and start from square one with this lawn thing...SuburboProTip#3.14Home Depot sells sod. Buy sod, lay sod, bare spots begone! (granted it isn't primo stuff, but it works for quick fills and isn't full of weeds in my experience).OAT,
WHAT'S ON TAP FOR THIS WEEKEND???Haven't seen the official itinerary yet
WEEKEND STATUS REPORT !111one
- Lawn - There are a few spots in the lawn that are bare, and where I'm tempted to rake the dirt a little and sprinkle in some grass seed, just to see what happens. I'm sure that'll go over well.
Also I plan to sit in my yard and drink some beers in the sun this weekend.![]()
Where does one get this?Make sure to use a 10% coupon at HD and cardpool typically has 8% off cards.
Nice.Got the quote back from the contractor. For ripping up the garbage floors in the kitchen and bathroom, refinishing both, installing new fixtures in the bathroom, a new window, a fan, and new moldings along the floor (his guy thought the walls themselves looked fine, just need paint), he is charging us $2500. (We supply the toilet, sink, and fan).Seems like a pretty decent deal to me. He'll get it done next week.For a 1/2 bath, I'd be fine with a hardwood floor. We have hardwood in a bath with a tub in it, though there is a tile surround around the tub and it works fine. We also have hardwood in our kitchen. You need to be reasonably vigilant about cleaning up spilled water, but it's not that hard. 10 years later we don't have any noticeable damage on the floor in either room.
NOTE: I was originally thinking a "gut renovation" in this room -- i.e., new walls too -- but if they look OK, does it matter? 
Post office change of address kit? I think Home Depot will honor Lowe's coupon if you only have that. Wouldn't hurt to ask.Where does one get this?Make sure to use a 10% coupon at HD and cardpool typically has 8% off cards.
I get mine from ebay. Usually can get 2 for a buck or two. I'm too lazy to drive to the post office. Probably cost more in gas.Where does one get this?Make sure to use a 10% coupon at HD and cardpool typically has 8% off cards.
Just bought a couple. Pretty sweet. Between the savings on the countertop and on the toilet and sink, this could be $$$$$$$$.I get mine from ebay. Usually can get 2 for a buck or two. I'm too lazy to drive to the post office. Probably cost more in gas.Where does one get this?Make sure to use a 10% coupon at HD and cardpool typically has 8% off cards.
You could have had them for free.Just bought a couple. Pretty sweet. Between the savings on the countertop and on the toilet and sink, this could be $$$$$$$$.I get mine from ebay. Usually can get 2 for a buck or two. I'm too lazy to drive to the post office. Probably cost more in gas.Where does one get this?Make sure to use a 10% coupon at HD and cardpool typically has 8% off cards.
Yeah, between the 10% off coupons and the 8% off store credit you can get from cardpool, 18% off is a huge chunk of change for the bigger ticket items. I wish i knew about both when I was renovating my house.Just bought a couple. Pretty sweet. Between the savings on the countertop and on the toilet and sink, this could be $$$$$$$$.I get mine from ebay. Usually can get 2 for a buck or two. I'm too lazy to drive to the post office. Probably cost more in gas.Where does one get this?Make sure to use a 10% coupon at HD and cardpool typically has 8% off cards.

seems like a pretty good deal imoNice.Got the quote back from the contractor. For ripping up the garbage floors in the kitchen and bathroom, refinishing both, installing new fixtures in the bathroom, a new window, a fan, and new moldings along the floor (his guy thought the walls themselves looked fine, just need paint), he is charging us $2500. (We supply the toilet, sink, and fan).Seems like a pretty decent deal to me. He'll get it done next week.For a 1/2 bath, I'd be fine with a hardwood floor. We have hardwood in a bath with a tub in it, though there is a tile surround around the tub and it works fine. We also have hardwood in our kitchen. You need to be reasonably vigilant about cleaning up spilled water, but it's not that hard. 10 years later we don't have any noticeable damage on the floor in either room.NOTE: I was originally thinking a "gut renovation" in this room -- i.e., new walls too -- but if they look OK, does it matter?
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1, 2, 3 & 5 are what make them so awesome.DON't use those old fashion snap mousetrapshere's the top 5 reasons1) you get the occasional bleeder2) once in a great while you get a thrasher3) one time I even saw one dragging it around4) those things are easy to set and don't hurt much, but for some unknown reason i was always SUPER damn nervous while setting them and inevitably ended up snapping myself5) the SNAP sound when they go off is unsettling'ODoyleRules said:'Aaron Rudnicki said:glue traps and peanut butter'The Commish said:We get a mouse from time to time and use those box traps that are coated in some unbelievably sticky crap that the mice can't get out of. Catch and toss in the dumpster. Problem solved.I didn't tell the wifey, so hopefully I can't take care of this this weekend.
Seems like a steep price for leylands. You can get them at like around 5 ft for 30 bucks at costco or you could even splurge on the big one's they have that are around 80 IIRC. Rent an HD truck for 30, 210 gets you 7 (560 for the big ones and they're really big) and go hire a day laborer for the day for another 80 to do the planting for a total price of 320 (670 for the big ones). Those are some of the fastest growing evergreens so as long as you give them plenty of water, they'll grow 3 ft per year easily.Got a quote from the landscaper to finish out the run of Leyland Cypress trees we have in the back. He thinks we need 6 or 7 more to complete the incomplete run the people before us started, at around 200 a pop for ones that are 5-7 feet tall. He'll also fix/bring back to life the ones that were previously improperly planted nearly a foot too deep (thus depriving the roots of the nutrients/moisture they need, which is why they are thin and look like crap). So we're looking at about another 2 grand.By the way, if any of you guys want a check for 2 grand, I'm pretty much just writing them daily and giving them out to everyone, so come on by. Owning a house in the suburbs is awesome.
Your price seems low -- I saw craisglist "uber cheap" prices for them to be installed at about 100 bucks each in these sizes. I'm not surprised my local "legit" guy is charging double. But youre right, this seems on the high end. Maybe I will try and negotiate down and see where it goes. I jut can't see myself taking the time to plant these, and I'm sure I would kill them all. I do actually plan to run these around the rest of the yard one day, but that is much less important in terms of privacy, and my plan is to eventually buy a bunch of three footers for the rest of the yard cheap and plant myself.Seems like a steep price for leylands. You can get them at like around 5 ft for 30 bucks at costco or you could even splurge on the big one's they have that are around 80 IIRC. Rent an HD truck for 30, 210 gets you 7 (560 for the big ones and they're really big) and go hire a day laborer for the day for another 80 to do the planting for a total price of 320 (670 for the big ones). Those are some of the fastest growing evergreens so as long as you give them plenty of water, they'll grow 3 ft per year easily.Got a quote from the landscaper to finish out the run of Leyland Cypress trees we have in the back. He thinks we need 6 or 7 more to complete the incomplete run the people before us started, at around 200 a pop for ones that are 5-7 feet tall. He'll also fix/bring back to life the ones that were previously improperly planted nearly a foot too deep (thus depriving the roots of the nutrients/moisture they need, which is why they are thin and look like crap). So we're looking at about another 2 grand.By the way, if any of you guys want a check for 2 grand, I'm pretty much just writing them daily and giving them out to everyone, so come on by. Owning a house in the suburbs is awesome.
Those are costco prices. I live at that place so I know. Never do manual labor when there's illegals willing to do it for you. For ~700, you'll have 7 really nice leylands. Regardless of who does it you're going to have to do the watering unless you do what I did and run drip irrigation but thats another project in itself.Your price seems low -- I saw craisglist "uber cheap" prices for them to be installed at about 100 bucks each in these sizes. I'm not surprised my local "legit" guy is charging double. But youre right, this seems on the high end. Maybe I will try and negotiate down and see where it goes. I jut can't see myself taking the time to plant these, and I'm sure I would kill them all. I do actually plan to run these around the rest of the yard one day, but that is much less important in terms of privacy, and my plan is to eventually buy a bunch of three footers for the rest of the yard cheap and plant myself.Seems like a steep price for leylands. You can get them at like around 5 ft for 30 bucks at costco or you could even splurge on the big one's they have that are around 80 IIRC. Rent an HD truck for 30, 210 gets you 7 (560 for the big ones and they're really big) and go hire a day laborer for the day for another 80 to do the planting for a total price of 320 (670 for the big ones). Those are some of the fastest growing evergreens so as long as you give them plenty of water, they'll grow 3 ft per year easily.Got a quote from the landscaper to finish out the run of Leyland Cypress trees we have in the back. He thinks we need 6 or 7 more to complete the incomplete run the people before us started, at around 200 a pop for ones that are 5-7 feet tall. He'll also fix/bring back to life the ones that were previously improperly planted nearly a foot too deep (thus depriving the roots of the nutrients/moisture they need, which is why they are thin and look like crap). So we're looking at about another 2 grand.By the way, if any of you guys want a check for 2 grand, I'm pretty much just writing them daily and giving them out to everyone, so come on by. Owning a house in the suburbs is awesome.