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Over-reaction Monday (1 Viewer)

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The "dress rehearsal" game is sometimes over-rated to the point where people make significant assumptions based off of one game. Let's look back at the weekend and see some examples where over-reaction on a player could potentially damage your team.

STL vs NE -- Sam Bradford. Did he look good? Yes. But don't think for a second that he isn't going to have many, many struggles this year. Now is not the time to get him. I had him as a target in an upcoming dynasty draft, but have taken him off the radar. Why? Because his value is now too high, and the owner that gets him will most assuredly trade him during the season. Why? Because he has no offensive weapons. Once real NFL defenses get ahold of him, he's going to have a tough year, considering the guys he's throwing the ball to. I still love this kid for the future, but the hype is out of control now.

Ind vs GB -- Jermichael Finley. I love this kid. But I've seen alot of hype come his way in the past few days. Guys now expect him to shatter TE records, be the number 1 TE by a mile...Back to reality a bit. Finley has undeniable talent, and it's undeniable that Rodgers looks his way. But the Packers have a ton of weapons, and so reaching on Finley, when there are 5-7 other TE's that will probably have averages with 1 ppg of Finley is a mistake. If you're in a dynasty, ppr league and you feel that you have to have this guy for the next ten years, I can't argue with that, but if you're predicting a record-breaking 2010 for Finley, I think you need to take a step back and re-analyze.

ATL vs Mia -- MIAMI OFFENSE!!!! PANIC, PANIC, PANIC -- Before you quickly ship off Marshall, Henne and Brown, remember why you have them in the first place. Yes, there are probably areas of concern for Miami, and this team is definetely not going to be an ultra-high scoring offense. But Henne is still a solid backup QB in my estimation, and Marshall is not going to continue to drop passes at this rate. The running game could potentially be an area of concern, but don't let 8 carries in a pre-season game affect your opinion of Ronnie Brown. It's just 8 carries.

NYJ vs WAS -- LT IS BACK!!! Well...I wouldn't be so sure. He has looked much better than last year, and there is no question that the Jets line is much better than the OL of San Diego. But remember it is a very long season. Also, I still saw a number of runs where I felt the LT of old would have taken it to the house. He still seems to go down far too easy. LT still has speed, and he'll still have big gains due to the immense holes the Jets' line opens up. His long run showed that he still has the speed, and he should be a nice compliment to Greene. But Greene is the guy to own in NY. Sanchez has not had a particularly strong camp, the Jets will rely on the running game, and the large number of runs that this team will call benefits the younger RB. LT is still a huge question mark to stay healthy for long periods of time, as it's rare that RB's get better at Tomlinson's age. Once the wear and tear of the season hits, expect the nagging injuries to start piling up for LT.

NO vs SD -- I can't really find anything in this matchup. Two very good offenses, and both looked pretty solid. The part of the box score that really stood out was Bush's 7 receptions for 70 yards. I think Bush's resurgence last year has firmly cemented him in a much more vital part of the Saints' gameplan, and if you're in a PPR league, you need to take notice, as this is not an aberration.

Phi vs KC -- I wouldn't panic on Kolb, I would panic on Cassell. Cassell just still doesn't look confident, and still seems to struggle with many of the same issues that plagued him last year. He still should see his numbers improve due to the weapons around him, but he's not going to turn into an excellent QB, as he's just not that good. With Kolb, first understand that if you are in a league that heavily penalizes turnovers, Kolb is going to hurt you. But he's still going to put up good numbers this year, assuming Desean Jackson stays healthy. Jackson's absence was very noticeable, and his return will keep Kolb as a solid number 2 QB. Anyone that has Kolb as their number 1 was overrating him to begin with.

Cle vs Det -- Was that Jake Delhomme? Shades of the super bowl vs Brady in this pre-season matchup. However, although Detroit's new DT, Suh, looks like a HOF'er already, I don't think Detroit's pre-season defense compares to the defenses Delhomme will see in the AFC North. Expect interceptions, and plenty of them when the regular season starts for Delhomme. Don't even think about rostering Delhomme as a number 2 QB. Leave him off of your roster.

Cincy vs Buf -- Carson Palmer is going to have a very good year. Is his arm going to hold up? I don't know. But the addition of Terrell Owens, Jordan Shipley and Jermaine Gresham are going to make this offense look completely different this year. His numbers against Buf were legit. It still remains to be seen if his arm is going to have the strength to throw the deep ball with effectiveness anymore. But even so, Palmer is a guy who could give be a top ten QB this year. He's got too many weapons not to succeed.

Jac vs TB -- Since this has to be the worst pre-season game of the week, I'll discuss MJD. Don't overrate his knee injury. It's painfully obvious that this is a completely horrible offense without Jones-Drew. Pre-season carries mean nothing for Jones-Drew and him "shutting it down" was a great move by Jacksonville, as without him, they are toast.

NYG vs Balt-- I wouldn't put too much stock in anything Jacobs or Bradshaw does in the pre-season. Unless an injury happens, both are going to get plenty of looks this season. I think the "Bradshaw is the number 1" camp has gotten a little too much play recently. Jacobs has had some nice runs this season, and will continue to get plenty of work during the regular season.

Dal vs Hou -- Dallas is fine. Don't worry about their "offensive struggles". The games don't count! Continue to draft accordingly and don't think about downgrading Romo. Arian Foster looks like the real deal in Houston. In some of my leagues, Slaton has made it to the trash heap. If so, pick him up just in case. I'm not saying he's going to do anything..but we have no idea how durable Foster is, or what he'll do over the course of the season. I think the Foster love is legit, but I think the discarding of Slaton in general might be a bit over the top.

Sea vs Minn -- Pay no attention to Favre's numbers. As always, it's pre-season and they don't count. Berrian and Harvin will both be excellent plays, and Camarillo looks to be a nice piece of the puzzle as well. I am worried about the Vikings run-blocking though. I wasn't impressed last year, and I'm still not. Adrian Peterson rarely has holes to run through, and that's with one of the most prolific passers in NFL history playing QB. I don't know what the problem is, but as an ADP owner, I'm worried.

Tenn vs Car -- Fox and Fisher gave absolutely nothing away in this game. I don't know of a single thing you can take from this one other than this: Carolina's receivers outside of Steve Smith are abysmal. As we've thought all off-season, Matt Moore will be ok when Smith plays. Without him, he's going to be poor. Oh and one thought on Vince Young. He fumbles every single game. As a Titans fan, this worries me. The Titans ended up recovering his fumble in this one, but it's becoming a problem. He's got to hold onto the ball.

Arizona vs Chi -- Watching the "twitter feeds", I figured this one would be ugly. But when I actually watched the game, I didn't see quite the gloom in Cutler's performance as everyone else. Sure he made a bad throw or two, did people actually think that Martz is going to turn Cutler into a 30 TD 10 INT QB? Cutler will throw some int's this year. Probably 15-25. But if you think he's going to have a big year, then draft him as such, and don't let these pre-season games change your opinion. Cutler is the QB, he'll throw the ball, and he'll have some big weeks. He'll also lose a few games for Chicago as he has every season he's played. He's the definition of a "gunslinger". One thing that would concern me for Beanie Wells' owners is that it's a foregone conclusion in many people's minds that Wells is going to be the main guy. But so far this pre-season, things don't look any different than last year. I do think Wells' numbers should be better due an increased reliance on the run, but Hightower isn't going anywhere, and he'll still get a ton of PT in Arizona.

SF vs Oak -- I don't see a single thing outside the norm in this one. Murphy looks good, Dixon is an un-remarkable plodder, Campbell and Smith are steady, unspectacular guys..just don't have alot of thoughts on this game.

Pitt vs Den -- Don't overreact to the pitiful performance by Dixon and Leftwich. Whichever QB is decided upon (I would assume Leftwich), will get the benefits of a gameplan designed around them. In pre-season they are many times thrown to the wolves to see how they'll handle it. There is a considerable drop-off in Roethlisberger and the rest, obviously.. But I don't think the Steelers are on a direct path to 0-4. They'll be in the games, and Mendenhall should get a ton of work.

 
Great post idea.

I agree with most of what you mention, disagree with others. But overall I think you're pretty spot on.

 
I guess what prompted it was the fact that this is the first year I've used twitter and so I'm sitting there watching pre-season games, and I'm amazed at guys like Schefter, Peter King, and all the "big media NFL" guys hanging on every play like it's the final drive of the super bowl.

Cutler would throw a pick and I'd get ten tweets from reputable guys regarding how bad he's looking and how worried they are for the Bears.

I mean, I can see over-reacting a little bit...but this was just very odd to me.

What did I take away from my "twitter" experience?

Peter King would never make it in the Shark Pool.

:goodposting:

 
Great post. I'm wondering whether deciding to keep Dwyer on my roster in my dynasty squad is an overreaction.

I think Leinart v Anderson is significant. Also really curious why Nate Davis (SF) got so much run in wk2 then didn't play a snap in wk3. When I saw him go against the 1s in wk2 he looked like he easily outplayed Smith and can make throws that Smith can't make.

I think the only thing to really pay attention to is position battles (QB in ARI) and how rooks perform against the 1s when they're expected to start.

In dynasty though it's a whole different ballgame. Sometimes its the first opportunity to see guys play.

 
Aside from Foster looking good against Dallas, I think that Jacoby Jones is seriously underrated this season. I think he'll have the #2 job pretty quickly opposite Johnson, which means he's going to be single-covered in one of the best pass offenses in the league. Schaub looks to him downfield and the Texans first TD was on a play they've run three times already this preseason to get Jones behind the D.

 
Tenn vs Car -- Fox and Fisher gave absolutely nothing away in this game. I don't know of a single thing you can take from this one other than this: Carolina's receivers outside of Steve Smith are abysmal. As we've thought all off-season, Matt Moore will be ok when Smith plays. Without him, he's going to be poor. Oh and one thought on Vince Young. He fumbles every single game. As a Titans fan, this worries me. The Titans ended up recovering his fumble in this one, but it's becoming a problem. He's got to hold onto the ball.
If his limited activity in a single preseason game is any indication, Derrick Morgan is going to contend for DROY.
 
Good stuff.

I have never been one to fall for the bear trap known as the NFL pre-season. What I do look at is who is running with what sqaud...not so much the performance. Arian Foster is a perfect example. He is clearly the #1 RB in Houston right now and will be a major part of the offense. I don't think the love is over hyped. He has a chance to be a top 10 ppr back (and I am a huge Steve Slaton fan). I never worry about great or even good players in the pre-season. It get's way too much press and IMO the guppies use pre-season in making half there draft day decisions.

Pre-season mean nothing for top guys. And for Redraft leagues I only use it just to get a gauge of the depth charts.

I also use pre-season to find depth chart players for all my dynasty leagues. You find gems that way. (Willie Parker, Colston, James Jones,Davone Bess etc). That is where these guys are fighting for a roster spot and you can discover tomorrows stars in that regard. While most people are watching the first teamers I am more focused on the 3rd and 4th stringer looking to take jobs from higer priced vets and become the teams next star players. Plenty of guys (like some I mentioned) have been found that way.

 
Shader, really nice thread topic. The vibe I am getting from your OP is that you don't put a lot of stock in preseason football. Meaning if a team that was praised in the off season like Dallas suddenly turns into "Houston, we have a problem!" you are going to look the other way and fall back on what was anlyzed earlier in the Spring/Summer. Not saying there is anything wrong with that but you want to put the brakes on the hype trains and the sky is falling campaigns.

Great stuff, your last several threads have been a real pleasure to read.

 
Cincy vs Buf -- Carson Palmer is going to have a very good year. Is his arm going to hold up? I don't know. But the addition of Terrell Owens, Jordan Shipley and Jermaine Gresham are going to make this offense look completely different this year. His numbers against Buf were legit. It still remains to be seen if his arm is going to have the strength to throw the deep ball with effectiveness anymore. But even so, Palmer is a guy who could give be a top ten QB this year. He's got too many weapons not to succeed.
Any thoughts on Spiller - do you think its an RBBC by week 2 or so with Jackson and/or Lynch/ MY gut says they are better off feeding this kid as he can break any play. Though they will want to limit him touches and keep him "fresh." thoughts?
 
I think there is definitely a reason to worry about Dallas. Their offensive line has played poorly in the preseason. I could discount Romo, or the receivers struggling. I could discount problems with timing between Romo and his receivers. But I don't discount when the offensive line doesn't seem to be able to protect the QB, or open holes for the run. That is certainly cause for pause in my opinion. I'm moving all of the Dallas offensive players down a notch on my board.

I'd also say that Foster looks solid. He looks like a fairly good receiver out of the backfield, so a nice value in PPR leagues going as late as he's going. He could probably still be worth a fourth, or even a late third. Jacoby Jones may be a sneaky late pick. He has talent. If he does slide in to the #2 WR slot he could be a nice late value.

 
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I think there is definitely a reason to worry about Dallas. Their offensive line has played poorly in the preseason. I could discount Romo, or the receivers struggling. I could discount problems with timing between Romo and his receivers. But I don't discount when the offensive line doesn't seem to be able to protect the QB, or open holes for the run. That is certainly cause for pause in my opinion. I'm moving all of the Dallas offensive players down a notch on my board.I'd also say that Foster looks solid. He looks like a fairly good receiver our of the backfield, so a nice value in PPR leagues. Jacoby Jones may be a sneaky late pick. He has talent. If he does slide in to the #2 WR slot he could be a nice late value.
It's been pointed out repeatedly by knowledgeable Dallas fans that they are playing without 2 starters on the off line. Due to minor injury. They will be available in week 1 however.Might want to reconsider...
 
I think there is definitely a reason to worry about Dallas. Their offensive line has played poorly in the preseason. I could discount Romo, or the receivers struggling. I could discount problems with timing between Romo and his receivers. But I don't discount when the offensive line doesn't seem to be able to protect the QB, or open holes for the run. That is certainly cause for pause in my opinion. I'm moving all of the Dallas offensive players down a notch on my board.I'd also say that Foster looks solid. He looks like a fairly good receiver our of the backfield, so a nice value in PPR leagues. Jacoby Jones may be a sneaky late pick. He has talent. If he does slide in to the #2 WR slot he could be a nice late value.
It's been pointed out repeatedly by knowledgeable Dallas fans that they are playing without 2 starters on the off line. Due to minor injury. They will be available in week 1 however.Might want to reconsider...
Colombo will miss the start of the season. Kosier won't return until probably week five. So neither of the two missing starters will be available for the start of the regular season. Or that is the information I got. Free is already a new player. There will probably be growing pains. If your starting line won't be together until week five, that is over a third of the fantasy regular season. And when you start the season with two of your starters already injured, well that seems to be a problem to me.
 
I think there is definitely a reason to worry about Dallas. Their offensive line has played poorly in the preseason. I could discount Romo, or the receivers struggling. I could discount problems with timing between Romo and his receivers. But I don't discount when the offensive line doesn't seem to be able to protect the QB, or open holes for the run. That is certainly cause for pause in my opinion. I'm moving all of the Dallas offensive players down a notch on my board.I'd also say that Foster looks solid. He looks like a fairly good receiver our of the backfield, so a nice value in PPR leagues. Jacoby Jones may be a sneaky late pick. He has talent. If he does slide in to the #2 WR slot he could be a nice late value.
It's been pointed out repeatedly by knowledgeable Dallas fans that they are playing without 2 starters on the off line. Due to minor injury. They will be available in week 1 however.Might want to reconsider...
I do agree with getting a good feel for O lines in preseason though. I will say, that while Palmer's arm looks better, and T.O. & Gresham add to the mix, the line still can't pass block worth a lick. I will also say that Pitt's O line looks like they can pass block adequately one-on-one, but they can't diagnose a blitz or stunt to save their lives.Just to my own eyes...
 
I think there is definitely a reason to worry about Dallas. Their offensive line has played poorly in the preseason. I could discount Romo, or the receivers struggling. I could discount problems with timing between Romo and his receivers. But I don't discount when the offensive line doesn't seem to be able to protect the QB, or open holes for the run. That is certainly cause for pause in my opinion. I'm moving all of the Dallas offensive players down a notch on my board.I'd also say that Foster looks solid. He looks like a fairly good receiver our of the backfield, so a nice value in PPR leagues. Jacoby Jones may be a sneaky late pick. He has talent. If he does slide in to the #2 WR slot he could be a nice late value.
It's been pointed out repeatedly by knowledgeable Dallas fans that they are playing without 2 starters on the off line. Due to minor injury. They will be available in week 1 however.Might want to reconsider...
Good point. But an even better point is that these 2 meet week 3 of the R-E-G-U-L-A-R season. I would expect Dallas wasn't showing them much of anything defensively. Not saying Foster isn't a decent back.
 
Cle vs Det -- Was that Jake Delhomme? Shades of the super bowl vs Brady in this pre-season matchup. However, although Detroit's new DT, Suh, looks like a HOF'er already, I don't think Detroit's pre-season defense compares to the defenses Delhomme will see in the AFC North. Expect interceptions, and plenty of them when the regular season starts for Delhomme. Don't even think about rostering Delhomme as a number 2 QB. Leave him off of your roster.
To me, the takeaway from this one was:Eight Wins? Have you seen the back seven?

:scared:

Actually that was a Jaimie Samuelson blog entry today. But I do think Lions fans who think 8 wins is a possibility are being slightly overoptimistic.

The offense has some serious potential with Stafford, Calvin and Best. Suh is a beast, and the D-line is clearly a strength to build upon. The LBs are really, really thin. The DBs are still awful (as long as Louis Delmas is still hurting). Those weaknesses are going to be exploited all year long.

Stafford might put up some big numbers FF wise this, because they should be in some shootouts. But I think 6 wins is a more realistic projection for the team.

 
I guess what prompted it was the fact that this is the first year I've used twitter and so I'm sitting there watching pre-season games, and I'm amazed at guys like Schefter, Peter King, and all the "big media NFL" guys hanging on every play like it's the final drive of the super bowl.Cutler would throw a pick and I'd get ten tweets from reputable guys regarding how bad he's looking and how worried they are for the Bears.I mean, I can see over-reacting a little bit...but this was just very odd to me.What did I take away from my "twitter" experience?Peter King would never make it in the Shark Pool. :lmao:
I agree that it's never wise to overrate the preseason, but shouldn't the Bears be a little concerned? Yeah, Offenses and Defenses are mostly basic, vanilla plays. But I wouldn't think anyone is skimping on pass protection in preseason. I mean, nobody ever says "We're saving all our good pass protection for the regular season". Cutler is their franchise QB and those hits are real. It's hard for me to see their offensive line suddenly stepping their game up when the bullets fly for real. If anything, it would stand to reason it might get HARDER to keep the QB safe once Defenses start going all out. You might say the same for Dallas and Minnesotta. Maybe there are injuries accounting for it, I don't know. :lmao: Good thread throw. Thanks for taking the time. :blackdot:
 
My two comments:

Carolina d is for real. I think they will be a top fantasy defense by seasons end. The dline is super fast and is racking up sacks in the preseason. Their corners are also ball hawks. I know it is preseason but no team wants the opposing defenses hitting their qb as much as the Panthers are.

Jermichael Finley is going to be really good this year. Rodgers obviously loves him and he is as fast as a wr. I totally disagree with 5-7 te's within a point of him. I think he is going to have multiple 10 catch games. He just seems so fast and fluid and is bigger then anyone trying to cover him.

 
My two comments:Carolina d is for real. I think they will be a top fantasy defense by seasons end. The dline is super fast and is racking up sacks in the preseason. Their corners are also ball hawks. I know it is preseason but no team wants the opposing defenses hitting their qb as much as the Panthers are.Jermichael Finley is going to be really good this year. Rodgers obviously loves him and he is as fast as a wr. I totally disagree with 5-7 te's within a point of him. I think he is going to have multiple 10 catch games. He just seems so fast and fluid and is bigger then anyone trying to cover him.
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Shader, really nice thread topic. The vibe I am getting from your OP is that you don't put a lot of stock in preseason football. Meaning if a team that was praised in the off season like Dallas suddenly turns into "Houston, we have a problem!" you are going to look the other way and fall back on what was anlyzed earlier in the Spring/Summer. Not saying there is anything wrong with that but you want to put the brakes on the hype trains and the sky is falling campaigns. Great stuff, your last several threads have been a real pleasure to read.
Thanks for the kind words.I do put stock in pre-season, don't get me wrong..But knowing what matters and what doesn't is very difficult to decipher, and I'm sure I'm wrong in some instances.I like using pre-season to evaluate young talent that doesn't have much/any NFL experience.I don't USUALLY like using pre-season to evaluate guys who have already played in the league for a number of years. For instance, Jay Cutler's performance in pre-season doesn't change my opinion of him one bit. I know what Jay Cutler is. Perhaps Martz can get him to throw less int's and design a prolific offense. It's certainly possible. Cutler can throw for big yards, he's proven that. But don't freak out when he throws 2 int's in a pre-season game. We know he throws int's, and he'll throw int's this year. What's the big deal?But when I see Mathews look good against a 1st string Saints defense, that does tell me something..because all I have is tape of Mathews playing in a bad college conference, so seeing him do it against NFL'ers is big.
 
Cincy vs Buf -- Carson Palmer is going to have a very good year. Is his arm going to hold up? I don't know. But the addition of Terrell Owens, Jordan Shipley and Jermaine Gresham are going to make this offense look completely different this year. His numbers against Buf were legit. It still remains to be seen if his arm is going to have the strength to throw the deep ball with effectiveness anymore. But even so, Palmer is a guy who could give be a top ten QB this year. He's got too many weapons not to succeed.
Any thoughts on Spiller - do you think its an RBBC by week 2 or so with Jackson and/or Lynch/ MY gut says they are better off feeding this kid as he can break any play. Though they will want to limit him touches and keep him "fresh." thoughts?
I think Jackson and Lynch will receive PT, especially Jackson. The Bills aren't going anywhere this year, and so there is no need to feed him the ball 20-25 times a game.The Titans used Chris Johnson sparingly in year 1, limiting him to right around 15 carries in most games.Now Spiller does have a chance to "take over", in that Lynch and Jackson are both hurt. If Spiller explodes in week 1, and the Bills win..and if this continues happening, and the Bills legitimately challenge for a playoff spot, then who knows? But considering that the above is very unlikely, I would look for Spiller to be in an RBBC with Fred Jackson, and take over "full-time" in 2011, if he plays great this year.
 
I think there is definitely a reason to worry about Dallas. Their offensive line has played poorly in the preseason. I could discount Romo, or the receivers struggling. I could discount problems with timing between Romo and his receivers. But I don't discount when the offensive line doesn't seem to be able to protect the QB, or open holes for the run. That is certainly cause for pause in my opinion. I'm moving all of the Dallas offensive players down a notch on my board.I'd also say that Foster looks solid. He looks like a fairly good receiver our of the backfield, so a nice value in PPR leagues. Jacoby Jones may be a sneaky late pick. He has talent. If he does slide in to the #2 WR slot he could be a nice late value.
It's been pointed out repeatedly by knowledgeable Dallas fans that they are playing without 2 starters on the off line. Due to minor injury. They will be available in week 1 however.Might want to reconsider...
;) I expect Dallas to score 30+ points week one.
 
I guess what prompted it was the fact that this is the first year I've used twitter and so I'm sitting there watching pre-season games, and I'm amazed at guys like Schefter, Peter King, and all the "big media NFL" guys hanging on every play like it's the final drive of the super bowl.Cutler would throw a pick and I'd get ten tweets from reputable guys regarding how bad he's looking and how worried they are for the Bears.I mean, I can see over-reacting a little bit...but this was just very odd to me.What did I take away from my "twitter" experience?Peter King would never make it in the Shark Pool. :)
I agree that it's never wise to overrate the preseason, but shouldn't the Bears be a little concerned? Yeah, Offenses and Defenses are mostly basic, vanilla plays. But I wouldn't think anyone is skimping on pass protection in preseason. I mean, nobody ever says "We're saving all our good pass protection for the regular season". Cutler is their franchise QB and those hits are real. It's hard for me to see their offensive line suddenly stepping their game up when the bullets fly for real. If anything, it would stand to reason it might get HARDER to keep the QB safe once Defenses start going all out. You might say the same for Dallas and Minnesotta. Maybe there are injuries accounting for it, I don't know. :unsure: Good thread throw. Thanks for taking the time. ;)
Well yes the Bears should be concerned. They aren't a great team.But people that go crazy when Cutler throws a pre-season INT just aren't using their head. Did they watch him last year? He was horrible in many of the games. There is no reason to think he's going to stop throwing INT's and become a great QB, so the preseason int's are just demonstrating what people should have known anyway.
 
Cincy vs Buf -- Carson Palmer is going to have a very good year. Is his arm going to hold up? I don't know. But the addition of Terrell Owens, Jordan Shipley and Jermaine Gresham are going to make this offense look completely different this year. His numbers against Buf were legit. It still remains to be seen if his arm is going to have the strength to throw the deep ball with effectiveness anymore. But even so, Palmer is a guy who could give be a top ten QB this year. He's got too many weapons not to succeed.
Any thoughts on Spiller - do you think its an RBBC by week 2 or so with Jackson and/or Lynch/ MY gut says they are better off feeding this kid as he can break any play. Though they will want to limit him touches and keep him "fresh." thoughts?
I think Jackson and Lynch will receive PT, especially Jackson. The Bills aren't going anywhere this year, and so there is no need to feed him the ball 20-25 times a game.The Titans used Chris Johnson sparingly in year 1, limiting him to right around 15 carries in most games.Now Spiller does have a chance to "take over", in that Lynch and Jackson are both hurt. If Spiller explodes in week 1, and the Bills win..and if this continues happening, and the Bills legitimately challenge for a playoff spot, then who knows? But considering that the above is very unlikely, I would look for Spiller to be in an RBBC with Fred Jackson, and take over "full-time" in 2011, if he plays great this year.
Agree with this 100%. Although it looks like Lynch and Jackson are both back at practice today and will play in week 1, limiting Spillers opportunity to explode and render the other 2 backs as immaterial. I think spiller is probably going to get about 12-15 touches a game. I think Buffalo will (and should if they're smart) keep Spiller as a mostly complementary back this year. No need to run him into the ground in a year where they have almost 0 playoff hopes. I'd imagine they let Lynch/Jackson do most of the dirty running, allowing Spiller the opportunity to work more in space.
 
Shader, really nice thread topic. The vibe I am getting from your OP is that you don't put a lot of stock in preseason football. Meaning if a team that was praised in the off season like Dallas suddenly turns into "Houston, we have a problem!" you are going to look the other way and fall back on what was anlyzed earlier in the Spring/Summer. Not saying there is anything wrong with that but you want to put the brakes on the hype trains and the sky is falling campaigns. Great stuff, your last several threads have been a real pleasure to read.
Thanks for the kind words.I do put stock in pre-season, don't get me wrong..But knowing what matters and what doesn't is very difficult to decipher, and I'm sure I'm wrong in some instances.I like using pre-season to evaluate young talent that doesn't have much/any NFL experience.I don't USUALLY like using pre-season to evaluate guys who have already played in the league for a number of years. For instance, Jay Cutler's performance in pre-season doesn't change my opinion of him one bit. I know what Jay Cutler is. Perhaps Martz can get him to throw less int's and design a prolific offense. It's certainly possible. Cutler can throw for big yards, he's proven that. But don't freak out when he throws 2 int's in a pre-season game. We know he throws int's, and he'll throw int's this year. What's the big deal?But when I see Mathews look good against a 1st string Saints defense, that does tell me something..because all I have is tape of Mathews playing in a bad college conference, so seeing him do it against NFL'ers is big.
:confused: and I agree completely. I could care less about established players like Romo, Cutler, Chris Johnson, Rodgers, etc. but what I do look for is a guy like Foster and not necessarily that he evens runs for 100 yards or breaks big runs but the burst, vision, etc. that is needed, does it look like he belongs? K. Kolb how is he looking, the Leinart situation and the potential impact on their offense as a whole, how does LT look behind a much better line, etc. Even that is not fool proof due to the vanilla offenses and limited touches it's a bit of an indication.
 

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