cantstop1999
Footballguy
p rivers got hurt last night when sacked ,he hurt his throwing shoulder and fumbled 3 times as a gates and tomlins owner im now worried.
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p.rivers time to worry. (1 Viewer)
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BoulderBob
Footballguy
As well you should be, LT is doomed with Shane Falco at QB.
PahtyTom
Footballguy
He's fine health wise. As an LT owner it shouldn't hurt at all this year. Rivers also looks at his TEs a lot, Gates just doesn't play many series this preseason so you wouldn't know it. He targets that backup TE that plays Gates role on the 2nd team offense Krause a lot though, so that bodes well for Gates. I also read that Rivers and Gates live next to each other and are the two closest guys on the team. Conclusion, I don't think Rivers will hurt Gates' or LT's value at all this year. It does appear however that McCardell, Parker, and Rivers himself may be risky starts frequently this year though.
Blackjacks
Footballguy
I've been saying it all offseason and I'm sticking to it. P. Rivers is a better option for SD than Brees was and he'll be a top 10 guy this year at his position. He'll also lead his team to the playoffs. Don't go off the preseason too much, you can't teach what this kid has inside of him. I'm a midwest guy and a rams fan so I don't really have any ties to him but he's my new favorite player. He looks so comfprtable out there, like a duck in water and the kid has the will to win. He will come through this year for the Chargers.
I see Tomlinson staying around the same and Gates actually going up.
I see Tomlinson staying around the same and Gates actually going up.
cantstop1999
Footballguy
i sure hope you guys are right, im banking on it having both.
Blackjacks
Footballguy
No need to worry, your fine
I would not worry about the fumbles.
I would worry about the pass-blocking by the offensive line. Rivers has taken some nasty hits in all three preseason games so far, despite playing less than a half of each.
His durability might be tested this year.
I would worry about the pass-blocking by the offensive line. Rivers has taken some nasty hits in all three preseason games so far, despite playing less than a half of each.
His durability might be tested this year.
It is a tad bit worrisome,but I'm not cutting him or placing him on the trading block. I own Gates too, and am not worried in the least in regards to him. Either A. Rivers will be crappy and check down to his TE alot, or B. He'll be a stud and just make Gat es all the better, as he's the best receiver on the team.
Rushmore
Footballguy
Football Jones
Footballguy
Maurile,For the sake of argument, let's say Rivers gets hurt. I realize Feeley would likely get the call, but what do you think of Whitehurst? It seems he's underrated by FFers even though he was a day-1 pick. I like him quite a bit & believe the Whitehurst pick was made solely for the purpose of providing insurance should Rivers flop.BTW, for those that didn't see it, Whitehurst's INT last night was a perfect pass that was juggled by the receiver (the ball popped up enough to allow a DB behind the play to run underneath it).
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I'm not so sure it would be Feeley. It's still an open competition for the number two job, and Whitehurst has looked better than Feeley in practice.I think, either way, the Chargers would be in trouble. Feeley is not good. Whitehurst has nice long-term potential, but he is a true rookie and is just not as comfortable in the offense yet as he'd need to be in order to be effective. I think he'd struggle for a year and would not present much value in redraft leagues.
Football Jones
Footballguy
Yeah, I agree on Whitehurst's redraft value. Like you, I also believe he's a decent dynasty prospect, though.
Blackjacks
Footballguy
What did he say?Thank god I listened to LHUCKS
gocats
Footballguy
http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...6&hl=RiversWhat did he say?Thank god I listened to LHUCKS
Despyzer
Lousy Attention Whore
1. The injury is hardly severe. It's a bruise.
2. Tomlinson gets his regardless of whatever the rest of the offense does.
3. Don't get too alarmed about fumbles in a pre-season game from a QB (some of the greatest QBs of all-time are also atop the career fumbles list, btw).
4. If something serious does happen to Rivers, it will probably doom the passing game (and the Chargers' season).
2. Tomlinson gets his regardless of whatever the rest of the offense does.
3. Don't get too alarmed about fumbles in a pre-season game from a QB (some of the greatest QBs of all-time are also atop the career fumbles list, btw).
4. If something serious does happen to Rivers, it will probably doom the passing game (and the Chargers' season).
Keys Myaths
Pokerguy
gregjcross
Footballguy
there is a lot of wisdom in LHUCKS statement about not trusting first year QBs, but Rivers is loooking like the exception here because he has a great arm and a lot around him. I would draft him late with another good potential guy and think there was a lot of value in doing so.
Thank god I listened to LHUCKS
Keys Myaths
Pokerguy
I don't trust him either.If you're drafting him EXPECTING him to carry your team to the championship, you have something else coming.If you're drafting him because of his upside, and his value, THAT'S the good reason.there is a lot of wisdom in LHUCKS statement about not trusting first year QBs, but Rivers is loooking like the exception here because he has a great arm and a lot around him. I would draft him late with another good potential guy and think there was a lot of value in doing so.
Thank god I listened to LHUCKS
JayMan
Footballguy
Interesting take... we all know 1st year QB starters don't usually fare well - I'm pointing to my Freelance Article (called: Dynasty Study - on the site's homepage) that looks at the correlation between 3 factors: NFL Draft rank / NFL Experience / FF eliteness - just to show that Rivers will certainly have a great NFL career (1st round draft) but that you don't want to rely on him prior to '07 to help your FF team(Sorry - I know: shameless publicity)I don't trust him either.If you're drafting him EXPECTING him to carry your team to the championship, you have something else coming.there is a lot of wisdom in LHUCKS statement about not trusting first year QBs, but Rivers is loooking like the exception here because he has a great arm and a lot around him.
I would draft him late with another good potential guy and think there was a lot of value in doing so.
Thank god I listened to LHUCKS
If you're drafting him because of his upside, and his value, THAT'S the good reason.
mcjc4
Footballguy
What if Rivers SUCKS? What if he has a fumbling problem? What if the offense does not flow like it did under Brees?
You are telling me LT and Gates will still be the premier players at their positions? San Diego down by 10 to 14 points in the 2nd half of games does not project well for LT to get his touches. If Rivers can not keep defenses honest, LT will pay the price.
You are telling me LT and Gates will still be the premier players at their positions? San Diego down by 10 to 14 points in the 2nd half of games does not project well for LT to get his touches. If Rivers can not keep defenses honest, LT will pay the price.
Riffraff
Footballguy
Have problems sleeping at night? Get agitated easily? Ever feel like the world is caving in around you?Well, we have some drugs designed especially for you. Here at spishak...Chill brother, nobody said Rivers should be your #1 QB. You draft him as your #2 for his upside. Same as any of his youthful peers.
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Despyzer
Lousy Attention Whore
San Diego's record in 2003: 4-12Tomlinson's production: 1645 rushing, 100 catches for 725, 19 TDsSan Diego's record in 2002: 8-8Tomlinson's production: 1683 rushing, 79 catches for 489, 16 TDsSan Diego's record in 2001: 5-11Tomlinson's production: 1236 rushing, 59 catches for 367, 11 TDsTomlinson racks up great numbers whether or not the rest of the team is any good. Barring injuries, he's the surest thing in the NFL right now.
Feeley is cut.Somewhat surprising, but if Whitehurst earned the number two, I guess Feeley doesn't provide anything to the team. Brett Elliot will be number three, I guess.
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Weapon of Mass Instruction
Watch my feet!
Speculation around here is Volek to SD for Donnie Edwards. May be no truth to it but you doubt if SD is content to go into the season with an unproven Rivers and just Whitehurst. On the other hand, I think the Titans need a DT/OG more.
I would hate that trade. Volek has no long-term potential as a Charger since Whitehurst will be the long-term backup. Volek would just be a stop-gap backup QB for this year. But Donnie Edwards would add more to the Chargers for just a single year than Volek is likely to. If the Chargers are looking at someone to help them for just 2006, they ought to keep Edwards.If they trade Edwards, I'd like it to be for a good offensive lineman or for a draft pick. The latter seems more likely. I think the Saints have two 2007 third-rounders now (or is it three?), and they're still interested in Edwards. Maybe they'll part with one of them.Weapon of Mass Instruction said:
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