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Packers at Seahawks (2 Viewers)

I am a big Vikings fan and I couldn't think of a better way for the Packers to lose. :) (That was an interception in my opinion)

Kudos to the Packer players that came back out for the extra point. Classy way to handle it.

 
'solorca said:
I've watched the play over and over, and it's still a touchdown to me (and I don't have a dog in this fight). Jennings hadn't established possession yet (because you have to complete the catch, feet down) when Tate got his hand on the ball. I think it's clearly simultaneous possession. Obviously I'm in the minority here, but I think it was the correct call.
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I agree. Tate gets both hands on before Jennings hits the ground.
 
I've got one of the replays paused on a frame where you can see Tate's fingers of his right hand are out in space... you can see the grass behind the players between his fingers and where the ball would be. That would mean Jennings had possession with a butt on the ground and maintained possession through the act of going to the ground, while Tate didn't have possession. So, interception.

 
'sporthenry said:
And now Packers have to find their helmets and waste 10 more minutes. This is beyond hilarious.
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i picture you sitting on your couch laughing hysterically while trying to catch your breath to tell your friend that you need to tell the internet what you are doing.
 
Do you all think the regular refs are sitting and drinking some beers and laughing their asses off. Hahahah what a fn'ing joke. NFL should give them what they want and extra. This is a joke.

 
'solorca said:
I've watched the play over and over, and it's still a touchdown to me (and I don't have a dog in this fight). Jennings hadn't established possession yet (because you have to complete the catch, feet down) when Tate got his hand on the ball. I think it's clearly simultaneous possession. Obviously I'm in the minority here, but I think it was the correct call.Regardless, I'm glad it's being considered a bad call, because it may FINALLY be the thing that gets the real refs back.
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I'd say it will end up being 50/50 with people. I thought Jennings had control before Tate got any type of possession. But maybe we can change the rule that there are no joint catches, it is a fight to the "death" with whoever holding the ball last wins.
 
'Doctor Detroit said:
'Neofight said:
'Alex P Keaton said:
Seriously Seahawks fans, it's cool to be excited about a win. But there is no way you deserved this victory.
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Not a Seahawks fan but I live here and I agree. The problem is the officiating is so bad it affects the outcome of games too many times over to know who would win in a Legitimate contest. Someone in here posted that regardless of who wins it would be illegitimate. He was right. Wipe this and about half the games played thus far off the books.
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Well at the end of the season in the standings, there isn't a "deserved to win" column.
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:lmao:
 
I can understand thinking it was simultaneous possession in real time. (thought I can NOT understand missing that pass interference, the most blatant I've ever seen)But they had a chance to make it right with the replay!!! What happened!?!??
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Can't review/overturn for that
 
'solorca said:
I've watched the play over and over, and it's still a touchdown to me (and I don't have a dog in this fight). Jennings hadn't established possession yet (because you have to complete the catch, feet down) when Tate got his hand on the ball. I think it's clearly simultaneous possession. Obviously I'm in the minority here, but I think it was the correct call.Regardless, I'm glad it's being considered a bad call, because it may FINALLY be the thing that gets the real refs back.
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A hand on the ball is not possession.
 
'Alex P Keaton said:
'Fennis said:
'Alex P Keaton said:
'Neofight said:
'Alex P Keaton said:
Seriously Seahawks fans, it's cool to be excited about a win. But there is no way you deserved this victory.
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Not a Seahawks fan but I live here and I agree. The problem is the officiating is so bad it affects the outcome of games too many times over to know who would win in a Legitimate contest. Someone in here posted that regardless of who wins it would be illegitimate. He was right. Wipe this and about half the games played thus far off the books.
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No disagreement. But really, the last 5 minutes had 3 game-changing plays in favor of Seattle, and all 3 were bad calls. Absolutely brutal. The entire NFL should be embarrassed by this.
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make up call for Super Bowl XL.
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:lmao: thanks for bringing me a chuckle. :)
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:thumbup: I'm a Seahawk fan, but the way the game was called, especially in the 4th quarter, was an embarrassment.
 
'Quibbler said:
'solorca said:
I've watched the play over and over, and it's still a touchdown to me (and I don't have a dog in this fight). Jennings hadn't established possession yet (because you have to complete the catch, feet down) when Tate got his hand on the ball. I think it's clearly simultaneous possession. Obviously I'm in the minority here, but I think it was the correct call.
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I agree. Tate gets both hands on before Jennings hits the ground.
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You're so full of crack it's not even funny. When you're ready to join reality, let us know.
 
'solorca said:
I've watched the play over and over, and it's still a touchdown to me (and I don't have a dog in this fight). Jennings hadn't established possession yet (because you have to complete the catch, feet down) when Tate got his hand on the ball. I think it's clearly simultaneous possession. Obviously I'm in the minority here, but I think it was the correct call.Regardless, I'm glad it's being considered a bad call, because it may FINALLY be the thing that gets the real refs back.
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I'm fairly sure Jennings doesn't have to get his feet down (to establish prior control rather than simultaneous control), and I'm also fairly sure that getting a hand on the ball doesn't constitute possession.Jennings had control of the ball while Tate just had a hand on it. I don't think that qualifies as simultaneous possession.I do think, however, that it was a difficult call to make on the field without the help of replay.
 
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'Quibbler said:
'solorca said:
I've watched the play over and over, and it's still a touchdown to me (and I don't have a dog in this fight). Jennings hadn't established possession yet (because you have to complete the catch, feet down) when Tate got his hand on the ball. I think it's clearly simultaneous possession. Obviously I'm in the minority here, but I think it was the correct call.
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I agree. Tate gets both hands on before Jennings hits the ground.
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Even if you're right, which you're not, there is still the flagrant missed PI.
 
'MIMN said:
I am a big Vikings fan and I couldn't think of a better way for the Packers to lose. :) (That was an interception in my opinion)Kudos to the Packer players that came back out for the extra point. Classy way to handle it.
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I don't think they had much of a choice.
 
'Todem said:
'Prince Myshkin said:
i love how everybody assumes that the real refs would have made a different call.
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Was waiting for shlock post like this. They were not even the proper position to make the call....they are a joke.Please man.
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i agree these guys are a joke, but everybody acts now like the old refs were gods that never screwed up and will never screw up in the future...give them whatever they want to get them back on the field. remember the calvin johnson td from a couple of years back? sure they spun it into some "well according to the rule", but the guy obviously caught the ball and was celebrating the td when he dropped it. they will do the same thing with this one. some league exec will get on tv saying it was the right call and they will spin it into a rule change or something like that. it has happened before and it will happen again, regardless of real officials or not.mike tirico just said basically the same thing..."if you have regular officials out there, that's a really hard call"
 
'CrazyFox said:
Do you all think the regular refs are sitting and drinking some beers and laughing their asses off. Hahahah what a fn'ing joke. NFL should give them what they want and extra. This is a joke.
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First thing that popped into my mind when I saw that replay.
 
There may have been plenty of places through the course of the game that had to do with the replacement refs. But the final play says nothing at all about the officiating. Regular crew of refs could have called it either way, including 2 refs calling it differently. And I doubt they'd overturn regardless of the call on the field.

 
Does simultaneous possession count when the defender has two hands on the ball against his chest and the offensive player has one arm tangled in with him?

Not to mention the terrible calls all the way down field on the drive. The Shields PI call was an absolute joke.

The NFL is a travelling circus right now.

 
'Greg Russell said:
There may have been plenty of places through the course of the game that had to do with the replacement refs. But the final play says nothing at all about the officiating. Regular crew of refs could have called it either way, including 2 refs calling it differently. And I doubt they'd overturn regardless of the call on the field.
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You're assuming the real refs would have made the same call. They wouldn't have. that was a clear PI on Tate and an interception by Jennings.
 
'Greg Russell said:
There may have been plenty of places through the course of the game that had to do with the replacement refs. But the final play says nothing at all about the officiating. Regular crew of refs could have called it either way, including 2 refs calling it differently. And I doubt they'd overturn regardless of the call on the field.
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I highly doubt the real refs miss Tate shoving Shields down prior to the ball arriving regardless of the ridiculousness of them missing the INT.
 
'MaxThreshold said:
'Quibbler said:
'solorca said:
I've watched the play over and over, and it's still a touchdown to me (and I don't have a dog in this fight). Jennings hadn't established possession yet (because you have to complete the catch, feet down) when Tate got his hand on the ball. I think it's clearly simultaneous possession. Obviously I'm in the minority here, but I think it was the correct call.
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I agree. Tate gets both hands on before Jennings hits the ground.
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You're so full of crack it's not even funny. When you're ready to join reality, let us know.
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Um, I'm watching the slow-mo, and that's what I see. Jennings catches the ball. Tate has one hand on the ball. As they go down, he puts his second hand on the ball. By the time Jennings hits the ground, Tate has two hands on the ball.
 
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