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Packers file tampering charges against the Vikings (1 Viewer)

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The Packers have reportedly filed tampering charges against the Vikings for allegedly communicating with Brett Favre.

The NFL is currently collecting information. The Packers claim that Favre had "inappropriate dialogue" with Vikes offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell, his former QBs coach in Green Bay. This seemingly confirms Minnesota as Favre's preferred destination, not that GM Ted Thompson would ever let him get there. The Vikings risk losing draft picks or paying a fine.

Source: FOXSports.com

Related: Vikings

:thumbdown: I love it.

 
It would seem that the more Favre does...the harder he makes it for himself. For being a veteran with his experience, he sure doesn't seem to know how to "play the game" off the field.

 
Bevell and Favre are about the same age...if they are friends, will be tough to prove.

As a Viking fan, good for them...at least they are finally trying to better themselves.

 
The Vikings risk losing draft picks or paying a fine
We talking like a 6th round pick or 50k here? The 49ers only had to swap 3rd round picks with Chicago for tampering with Briggs.
 
July 16th, 2008 – 5:54 PM by Judd Zulgad

Minneapolis Star and Tribune

The Packers have filed tampering charges with the NFL against the Vikings for alleged communication with quarterback Brett Favre, according to the Fox Sports website.

According to the report the league has had discussions with both teams and is gathering information and talking with members of the organizations. Fox’s Jay Glazer says the Vikings were informed late last week that the allegation is that Favre had had “inappropriate dialogue” with Vikings offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell.

Bevell is good friends with Favre and served as his quarterbacks coach from 2003-05. Favre, who retired last March but now wants to return, has requested the Packers release him and the team has made it clear that won’t happen. This is in part because the Packers have no interest in seeing Favre go to a team like the Vikings or Bears and playing against them twice a season. The Packers have told Favre they have moved on and want Aaron Rodgers to be their starter.

Part of the issue is likely that Favre and Bevell have talked frequently since Bevell left the organization. NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said Wednesday evening the league would not comment on the report.

The Vikings are one team that has been named as an ideal fit for Favre. The Vikings run a version of the West Coast offense that is very similar to what Favre played in during Mike Sherman’s tenure as the Packers coach from 2000 to 2005.

The Fox story, citing league sources, said the Vikings denied any wrongdoing. Nonetheless, if the league finds the Vikings guilty the team could forfeit draft picks and/or end up being fined.

Vikings coach Brad Childress, meanwhile, said Monday that Tarvaris Jackson would be his starting quarterback in 2008. Childress has had no public comment on Favre playing for the Vikings because that would be clear violation of NFL tampering rules.

Asked about Jackson being his starter, Childress said: “I think I’ve always said that. I just think he’s right where he needs to be in terms of being a third-year quarterback. Would I have liked to see him play 16 games last year? Absolutely, I would have. But I think he’s in natural evoluation. He understands what it means to play an NFL season as a starter with all eyes on him, dissecting everything.”

Jackson, appearing today on ESPN, said Childress’ comment gave him “great confidence” but sounded like a guy who could understand a team being interested in the 38-year-old Favre. “Just the caliber of player Brett Favre is, anybody would be glad to have him.”

Jackson went 8-4 in his first season as the Vikings’ starting quarterback in 2007 — he missed three games because of injury and was benched for another — but threw three more interceptions than touchdowns (12-9). The feeling of many is that quarterback is the only position at which the Vikings have a question mark and Favre would clear that up.

In a two-part interview on Fox News Channel that concluded Tuesday night, Favre was asked about the possibility of running out of the visiting team tunnel in Lambeau Field wearing a Vikings jersey for the Sept. 8 opener. That is the game at which the Packers have been planning to retire Favre’s No. 4 jersey.

“I’ve never envisioned that,” he said. “I’ve heard all the talk like everyone else. It’s hard not to. But that’s always been our biggest rivalry, obviously with the Bears. Did I ever think of that? No. Did I ever think it would happen? Absolutely not. In my getting a release, obviously it gives you an option.”

As of right now Favre doesn’t have his release, though, and it looks as if the Vikings could be in some trouble.

Keep checking back as we’ll be continue working this story.

 
It's hard to :lmao: and :blackdot: at the same time here.

This drama would have easily won a spot in the fake email update contest.

 
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I don't know why they would have to have Bevell talk to Favre about it... Favre could have just winked at the camera during his interview with Greta Van Susteran and said his new favorite color was purple and everything would be peachy.

This is just a rumor, the Vikings have vehemently denied it, the Packers have every reason to make up this story (though I am not saying they made it up, just saying they have reason too!) And. I am sure there are more excuses I can borrow from other threads around here, but these suffice for now.

I think the humor of this situation alone will make it worth the draft picks. Not really, but almost.

This has been the most interesting, entertaining offseason in a long, long time. And without even one single dead dog!

 
This is all so friggin' boring. I can't wait for training camp to open! What's next, Brad and Angelina on the cover of Footballguys; or would it be Tom and Gisele?

 
Packers gotta have SOMEONE to blame for their messy impending divorce after a 16-year marriage....might as well be the Vikings, since they hate 'em so much...almost as much as Da Bears, anyway. :lol:

 
As the Favre turns

July 17th, 2008 – 12:15 AM by Judd Zulgad

Minneapolis Star and Tribune

For those of you who were sick of hearing about Brett Favre before, well, I’ve got bad news for you. It appears as if that was just a warmup. I still don’t think Favre will ever play for the Vikings but the tampering charges the Packers filed now makes Brad Childress’ team part of this mess.

And, folks, make no mistake. This thing has become a complete mess.

With that being said, Chris Jenkins of the Associated Press, a very good reporter and someone I trust to have things right, has spoken with an interesting source. Below are some excerpts from Jenkins’ story that moved on the wire tonight.

“The Green Bay Packers have filed tampering charges against the Minnesota Vikings alleging the team made inappropriate contact with Brett Favre, a person familiar with the Packers’ complaint told the Associated Press Wednesday night.

“The person, who requested anonymity because of the sensitivity of the subject, said Packers officials have expressed their belief that interest from the Vikings was driving Favre’s sudden change of heart about playing football in 2008.

“They feel like Favre had something [in place], and that’s why he was so anxious to get his release all of a sudden, the person said.”

Later on Jenkins’ story reads: “The person said the league already has reviewed evidence provided by the Packers, and team officials believe a league examination of telephone records would indicate more than normal contact between Favre and Vikings offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell, a former Green Bay assistant. According to the person, Packers officials also believe the contact began before Favre and his agent, Bus Cook, formally asked the Packers to release him.”

This is pretty interesting stuff. Essentially, the claim is that the Vikings are the ones that have caused Favre to give calling it quits second thought. How about that? The favorite team for most of you on this blog might be the reason you have had to read so much about your least favorite player.

As far as how the NFL feels about tampering, my former colleague Kevin Seifert examines that issue on his ESPN blog. Seifert points out the NFL has increased the way it patrols this issue and uses the 49ers’ tampering with Bears linebacker Lance Briggs as an example. San Francisco had to give up a fifth-round pick and swap spots with the Bears in the third round of this year’s draft despite the fact the league essentially only had phone records as evidence.

It will be interesting to see if the Vikings make any type of statement on Thursday

 
Packers gotta have SOMEONE to blame for their messy impending divorce after a 16-year marriage....might as well be the Vikings, since they hate 'em so much...almost as much as Da Bears, anyway. :fishing:
Especially if it's true.
 
I don't know why they would have to have Bevell talk to Favre about it... Favre could have just winked at the camera during his interview with Greta Van Susteran and said his new favorite color was purple and everything would be peachy.

This is just a rumor, the Vikings have vehemently denied it, the Packers have every reason to make up this story (though I am not saying they made it up, just saying they have reason too!) And. I am sure there are more excuses I can borrow from other threads around here, but these suffice for now.

I think the humor of this situation alone will make it worth the draft picks. Not really, but almost.

This has been the most interesting, entertaining offseason in a long, long time. And without even one single dead dog!
Its a rumor?You mean the Packers did not file charges?

You might want to look up that definition again.

Its not a rumor...its an unproven accusation...the charges are facts.

Perhaps you should look at those other threads again...

 
This just goes to show the shift of balance of power in the NFC North. Even the best players on the Packers will do everything in their power to become a Viking! :goodposting:

 
This is just a ploy to motivate Tarvaris Jackson.

The only question in my mind is why Thompson would want to do that? Oh yeah, because of his UNGOLDY EGO!

 
so can you tamper with a player that is not in the league?
He wasn't a free agent. As I'm sure you know, if he is reinstated he is due $12M+ over the next two years. So IMO it makes sense that other teams should not be free to talk to him about playing for them without the Packers' permission.
 
Putting aside that Favre has himself to blame for some of this, the Packers are really coming out like jerks in this, IMO. You can't force a guy to stay retired, regardless of how much easier it makes your life. Either release him, trade him or invite him back to camp. And if you don't have the stones to sit him on the bench, which would also show a lack of brains, then eliminate option #3 and release or trade him.

 
Obviously just a little PR move by GB to divert attention to a team that's enjoying all the Fav-ruh/Packer drama, and the disruptions it's causing.

 
The tampering charge is odd to me because Favre can never become a Viking without the Packers consent. That is, talking to him is all well and good, but we hold his rights so it has to come through us anyway so who cares?

It is all public relations efforts and poor ones at that.

They are pissed that Favre has been given any information that a team might want him, motivating him to "unretire".

But they are trying to fight this in the media, which was a mistake from the start. Sure Favre started the media ploy to try to force his release, but they are victims of Thompson's ego in playing that game.

They should have only ever said "we appreciate what Brett has done, have moved on, and welcome any trade offers that would help both teams involved." But no, Dickego prevails.

 
Putting aside that Favre has himself to blame for some of this, the Packers are really coming out like jerks in this, IMO. You can't force a guy to stay retired, regardless of how much easier it makes your life. Either release him, trade him or invite him back to camp. And if you don't have the stones to sit him on the bench, which would also show a lack of brains, then eliminate option #3 and release or trade him.
Coming out like jerks because they are trying to follow the NFL rules.They will not release him...that would not make sense from a football standpoint.He has been invited to camp. He has yet to file for reinstatement.
 
They should have only ever said "we appreciate what Brett has done, have moved on, and welcome any trade offers that would help both teams involved." But no, Dickego prevails.
You mean like their official statement?http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=771759

The Green Bay Packers are aware of the latest developments regarding Brett Favre.

Brett earned and exercised the right to retire on his terms. We wanted him to return and welcomed him back on more than one occasion.

Brett’s press conference and subsequent conversations in the following weeks illustrated his commitment to retirement.

The finality of his decision to retire was accepted by the organization. At that point, the Green Bay Packers made the commitment to move forward with our football team.

As a retired player, Brett has the option to apply for reinstatement with Commissioner (Roger) Goodell. If that were to occur, he would become an active member of the Green Bay Packers. As always, the Packers will do what’s right and in the best interest of the team.

As with all Packers greats, Brett’s legacy will always be celebrated by our fans and the organization, regardless of any change in his personal intentions.

Brett and Deanna will always be a part of the Packers family.
 
Vikings coach Brad Childress, meanwhile, said Monday that Tarvaris Jackson would be his starting quarterback in 2008.
:hot:
This is the thing that gets me right here. Over the past week it would seem that the Vikings, coaches and players alike, have gone out of their way to express their confidence and support behind Jackson to the media. All the while, we have the allegations of tampering with Favre. In regards to the Vikings, it all smells of "guilt" to me. ("Just to cover ourselves and cloak the whole thing, let's let it be known that Jackson is our guy and progressing well")I smell fish!
 
Obviously just a little PR move by GB to divert attention to a team that's enjoying all the Fav-ruh/Packer drama, and the disruptions it's causing.
bingo, they know favre and bevell talk and they jumped on it. Probably just going to piss favre off more and make this even uglier for the pack.
 
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The tampering charge is odd to me because Favre can never become a Viking without the Packers consent. That is, talking to him is all well and good, but we hold his rights so it has to come through us anyway so who cares?

It is all public relations efforts and poor ones at that.

They are pissed that Favre has been given any information that a team might want him, motivating him to "unretire".

But they are trying to fight this in the media, which was a mistake from the start. Sure Favre started the media ploy to try to force his release, but they are victims of Thompson's ego in playing that game.

They should have only ever said "we appreciate what Brett has done, have moved on, and welcome any trade offers that would help both teams involved." But no, Dickego prevails.
I fail to see how the tampering charge makes no sense. The same was true about Briggs -- it would have required the Bears "consent" to be a 49er. THe point is that the Vikings (or more likely his former coach/friend) may be advising Brett as to how to go about his reinstatement it so that he can end up with a team of his choice.

It is not only tampering when you try to get the player for your own team. IT can also be considered tampering if you advise the player on how he can go about getting a release from his current contractual obligation. (For example, if he were told to ask for his release and also too ask for the release to be"with no strings attached" so that he would be free to go to the VIkings or any other team).

RUMORS are flying everywhere. The Packers owe it to the organization and fans to pursue claims if there is a strong suspicion of wrongdoing. The charges may never pan out, but if the suspicion is there they should at least file the charges. I suspect, but have no proof, that there was tampering. Can it be proven, I seriously doubt it. (And even if it could, I doubt Goodell will exact a punsihment on such a public isssue -- probably it would be "hidden punishment like the Vikings cannot sign Favre).

Brett has yet to file the papers requesting his reinstatement. IF the VIkings were his choice, this certainly puts a wrench in those plans. I would think that Brett would hold off on seeking reinstatement at this point if the Vikings are his destination of choice because he could not signe with them right off the bat after being released.

 
Putting aside that Favre has himself to blame for some of this, the Packers are really coming out like jerks in this, IMO. You can't force a guy to stay retired, regardless of how much easier it makes your life. Either release him, trade him or invite him back to camp. And if you don't have the stones to sit him on the bench, which would also show a lack of brains, then eliminate option #3 and release or trade him.
:angry:
 
They should have only ever said "we appreciate what Brett has done, have moved on, and welcome any trade offers that would help both teams involved." But no, Dickego prevails.
You mean like their official statement?http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=771759

The Green Bay Packers are aware of the latest developments regarding Brett Favre.

Brett earned and exercised the right to retire on his terms. We wanted him to return and welcomed him back on more than one occasion.

Brett’s press conference and subsequent conversations in the following weeks illustrated his commitment to retirement.

The finality of his decision to retire was accepted by the organization. At that point, the Green Bay Packers made the commitment to move forward with our football team.

As a retired player, Brett has the option to apply for reinstatement with Commissioner (Roger) Goodell. If that were to occur, he would become an active member of the Green Bay Packers. As always, the Packers will do what’s right and in the best interest of the team.

As with all Packers greats, Brett’s legacy will always be celebrated by our fans and the organization, regardless of any change in his personal intentions.

Brett and Deanna will always be a part of the Packers family.
That sounds really different to me Sho. Was "welcome any trade offers that would help both teams involved" imbedded in the "he would become an active member of the Green Bay Packers. As always, the Packers will do what’s right and in the best interest of the team"?

 
They should have only ever said "we appreciate what Brett has done, have moved on, and welcome any trade offers that would help both teams involved." But no, Dickego prevails.
You mean like their official statement?http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=771759

The Green Bay Packers are aware of the latest developments regarding Brett Favre.

Brett earned and exercised the right to retire on his terms. We wanted him to return and welcomed him back on more than one occasion.

Brett’s press conference and subsequent conversations in the following weeks illustrated his commitment to retirement.

The finality of his decision to retire was accepted by the organization. At that point, the Green Bay Packers made the commitment to move forward with our football team.

As a retired player, Brett has the option to apply for reinstatement with Commissioner (Roger) Goodell. If that were to occur, he would become an active member of the Green Bay Packers. As always, the Packers will do what’s right and in the best interest of the team.

As with all Packers greats, Brett’s legacy will always be celebrated by our fans and the organization, regardless of any change in his personal intentions.

Brett and Deanna will always be a part of the Packers family.
That sounds really different to me Sho. Was "welcome any trade offers that would help both teams involved" imbedded in the "he would become an active member of the Green Bay Packers. As always, the Packers will do what’s right and in the best interest of the team"?
Why would they want to "help both teams".Sure...it is a bit different...but he is welcome to report for camp if he files for reinstatement. They have said they have moved on...they have said they would field trade offers (in other reports not this one).

I agree that they have gone too far in the media...by they I mean both Favre and Thompson.

 
They should have only ever said "we appreciate what Brett has done, have moved on, and welcome any trade offers that would help both teams involved.
I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I fail to see any culpability on TT or the Packers part in this mess.All they have requested of Favre is that he make a decision about retirement in a timely manner and then abide by it.Favre has held his impending retirement over the Packers head for at least two seasons now, and if memory serves a third in 06.In fact, it seems like the GB FO has bent over backwards to accommodate Favre's prima donna act. He was hired to play QB, not GM.As far as the above quoted statement goes it seems like that is exactly what they have done. For the deal to help both teams though, Favre has to go to an AFC team the Packers don't face this season and that is all but assured of not making the playoffs. The media spectacle otherwise would not be in the Packers interest. Miami or Baltimore maybe?And if one of their chief rivals is manipulating the situation, they absolutely should file tampering charges.I just don't see the negative spin on the team's side.Favre is the one coming across as an immature schmuck doing his best to tarnish an incredible legacy.
 
I think "moved on" and "the finality of his decision to retire was accepted by the organization" suggests that "doing what is best for the team" does not involve playing him. Doing what is "right" is anyone's guess.

 
For the deal to help both teams though, Favre has to go to an AFC team the Packers don't face this season and that is all but assured of not making the playoffs.
Actually, for the deal to help both teams it just needs to represent good value to each. This could be an NFC team outside the North (e.g., Bucs) as long as the compensation is worth it . It coud be the Vikings if they got enough (e.g., 2 first round picks, which I know would never happen).There is no evidence the Packers have actively sought out trade options for Favre. The opposite appears to be true.
 
Why would they want to "help both teams".

They shouldn't. They should be worried about their own team and perhaps Favre's interest as well (arguable).

"help both teams" just sounds nice because no teams trade unless they think it helps them.

 
They should have only ever said "we appreciate what Brett has done, have moved on, and welcome any trade offers that would help both teams involved.
I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I fail to see any culpability on TT or the Packers part in this mess.All they have requested of Favre is that he make a decision about retirement in a timely manner and then abide by it.Favre has held his impending retirement over the Packers head for at least two seasons now, and if memory serves a third in 06.In fact, it seems like the GB FO has bent over backwards to accommodate Favre's prima donna act. He was hired to play QB, not GM.Favre is the one coming across as an immature schmuck doing his best to tarnish an incredible legacy.
:lol: I'm with you on this my friend. But be advised you'll be called a 'looney' for bringing up Ted Thompson....
 
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For the deal to help both teams though, Favre has to go to an AFC team the Packers don't face this season and that is all but assured of not making the playoffs.
Actually, for the deal to help both teams it just needs to represent good value to each. This could be an NFC team outside the North (e.g., Bucs) as long as the compensation is worth it . It coud be the Vikings if they got enough (e.g., 2 first round picks, which I know would never happen).There is no evidence the Packers have actively sought out trade options for Favre. The opposite appears to be true.
The opposite appears true?That they are not taking offers?LINK?They will take them...but it does not look like people are sending any in.Part may be because Favre is yet to commit to anything. He is still being wishy washy about returning or not.
 
For the deal to help both teams though, Favre has to go to an AFC team the Packers don't face this season and that is all but assured of not making the playoffs.
Actually, for the deal to help both teams it just needs to represent good value to each. This could be an NFC team outside the North (e.g., Bucs) as long as the compensation is worth it . It coud be the Vikings if they got enough (e.g., 2 first round picks, which I know would never happen).There is no evidence the Packers have actively sought out trade options for Favre. The opposite appears to be true.
The opposite appears true?That they are not taking offers?

LINK?

They will take them...but it does not look like people are sending any in.

Part may be because Favre is yet to commit to anything. He is still being wishy washy about returning or not.
That's just rumor.
 
Putting aside that Favre has himself to blame for some of this, the Packers are really coming out like jerks in this, IMO. You can't force a guy to stay retired, regardless of how much easier it makes your life. Either release him, trade him or invite him back to camp. And if you don't have the stones to sit him on the bench, which would also show a lack of brains, then eliminate option #3 and release or trade him.
Coming out like jerks because they are trying to follow the NFL rules.They will not release him...that would not make sense from a football standpoint.

He has been invited to camp. He has yet to file for reinstatement.
:whistle: You're being pretty naive.

 
Tatum Bell said:
sho nuff said:
ookook said:
treat88 said:
For the deal to help both teams though, Favre has to go to an AFC team the Packers don't face this season and that is all but assured of not making the playoffs.
Actually, for the deal to help both teams it just needs to represent good value to each. This could be an NFC team outside the North (e.g., Bucs) as long as the compensation is worth it . It coud be the Vikings if they got enough (e.g., 2 first round picks, which I know would never happen).There is no evidence the Packers have actively sought out trade options for Favre. The opposite appears to be true.
The opposite appears true?That they are not taking offers?

LINK?

They will take them...but it does not look like people are sending any in.

Part may be because Favre is yet to commit to anything. He is still being wishy washy about returning or not.
That's just rumor.
Yawn...this idiotic schtick is getting old.No...its not rumor...its from Favre himself. He is saying he is unsure what he will do.

Grow up.

 
ConstruxBoy said:
sho nuff said:
ConstruxBoy said:
Putting aside that Favre has himself to blame for some of this, the Packers are really coming out like jerks in this, IMO. You can't force a guy to stay retired, regardless of how much easier it makes your life. Either release him, trade him or invite him back to camp. And if you don't have the stones to sit him on the bench, which would also show a lack of brains, then eliminate option #3 and release or trade him.
Coming out like jerks because they are trying to follow the NFL rules.They will not release him...that would not make sense from a football standpoint.

He has been invited to camp. He has yet to file for reinstatement.
:whistle: You're being pretty naive.
Not at all.They are trying to follow the rules (I am not saying there are not other motivations behind it)...but I fail to see them looking like jerks for protecting their best interest.

 
ConstruxBoy said:
sho nuff said:
ConstruxBoy said:
Putting aside that Favre has himself to blame for some of this, the Packers are really coming out like jerks in this, IMO. You can't force a guy to stay retired, regardless of how much easier it makes your life. Either release him, trade him or invite him back to camp. And if you don't have the stones to sit him on the bench, which would also show a lack of brains, then eliminate option #3 and release or trade him.
Coming out like jerks because they are trying to follow the NFL rules.They will not release him...that would not make sense from a football standpoint.

He has been invited to camp. He has yet to file for reinstatement.
:popcorn: You're being pretty naive.
Not at all.They are trying to follow the rules (I am not saying there are not other motivations behind it)...but I fail to see them looking like jerks for protecting their best interest.
I think they look like jerks.Trade him, release him, or start him. But just don't just sit on your hands and hope he stays retired. If the Packers have "moved on" then move on.

 
Tatum Bell said:
sho nuff said:
ookook said:
treat88 said:
For the deal to help both teams though, Favre has to go to an AFC team the Packers don't face this season and that is all but assured of not making the playoffs.
Actually, for the deal to help both teams it just needs to represent good value to each. This could be an NFC team outside the North (e.g., Bucs) as long as the compensation is worth it . It coud be the Vikings if they got enough (e.g., 2 first round picks, which I know would never happen).There is no evidence the Packers have actively sought out trade options for Favre. The opposite appears to be true.
The opposite appears true?That they are not taking offers?

LINK?

They will take them...but it does not look like people are sending any in.

Part may be because Favre is yet to commit to anything. He is still being wishy washy about returning or not.
That's just rumor.
Yawn...this idiotic schtick is getting old.No...its not rumor...its from Favre himself. He is saying he is unsure what he will do.

Grow up.
Nope. He's made clear he wants to come back. Please remain your normal oversensitive self though. It's getting me through a slow July.

 

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