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[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Vikings | Offensive players have no respect for Brad Childress? Thu Aug 19, 09:28 AM

Many of the Minnesota Vikings players, particularly on offense, have no respect for head coach Brad Childress, according to Jason Cole, of Yahoo! Sports. One of those players is QB Brett Favre. Favre's disdain for Childress is deep, according to multiple team sources. 'Brett thinks Childress has no clue about offense,' a Vikings player said. Childress' presence, not Favre's ankle injury, was one of the biggest reasons Favre was hesitating about playing again, sources said. In early July, Favre had indicated to one player that he was likely to play. However, after Childress visited Favre July 19, Favre's desire to return declined. 'Brett just doesn't trust him,' a player said. The heart of the conflict is Childress' perceived lack of football savvy. Some players believe that most of the offensive coaching staff is made up of yes-men. Furthermore, Childress is the type of person who doesn't take outside ideas very well. 'He has his way of doing things and that's it,' a player said.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Anvx...ressvikes081810

ings coach loses cred in locker room

By Jason Cole, Yahoo! Sports

Aug 18, 8:48 pm EDT

Even as Minnesota coach Brad Childress was getting what he desperately wanted, he couldn’t help but further undermine himself in the eyes of his players.

On Tuesday, as Vikings guard Steve Hutchinson, defensive end Jared Allen and kicker Ryan Longwell were flying back and forth between Minnesota and Mississippi to bring quarterback Brett Favre back for another season, Childress tried to cover up a fact that was widely reported. Childress, who wasn’t scheduled to talk to media Tuesday, had special teams coach Brian Murphy and offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell tell reporters that the three players were actually at the team facility rather than aboard a private jet.

Murphy went so far as to say that Longwell was kicking inside the team’s indoor facility. “We were kicking inside,” Murphy said. When asked directly if Longwell was at practice, Murphy said: “He was here, he was around.”

Bevell couldn’t quite go along with the charade, pushing the explanation on Childress.

“I came out here and [Childress] told me he had the other guys inside,” Bevell said, referring to the three players. “They were in the building. I came out to practice, Coach said they were inside.”

That little bit of misdirection didn’t get much attention, but it raised a lot of eyebrows inside the Vikings’ locker room.

“Chilly can’t even tell the truth about that,” the player said. “I mean, how ridiculous is that? What’s the big deal that he has to lie? Worse, he has to tell other guys to lie for him?”

In short, even as Minnesota’s best hope to win a Super Bowl this season was rejoining the team, Childress was losing more ground with his team in the battle for respect. One of the biggest issues playing out behind the scenes in Minnesota is that many players, particularly on offense, have no respect for Childress. Among those players is Favre, who officially returned to the team Wednesday. According to multiple team sources, Favre’s disdain for Childress is deep.

“Brett thinks Childress has no clue about offense,” a Vikings player said.

Childress’ presence, not Favre’s ankle injury, was one of the biggest reasons Favre was hesitating about playing again, sources said. In early July, Favre had indicated to one player that he was likely to play. However, after Childress visited Favre on July 19, Favre’s desire to return declined.

“Brett just doesn’t trust him,” a player said.

Both Childress and Favre declined to address the issue Wednesday, but the problems run deeper than events from last season. It goes beyond the incident in the Dec. 20 game against Carolina when Favre refused to come out of an eventual loss when Childress wanted to pull him. It’s beyond the Nov. 15 win against Detroit when Childress got angry with a play Favre changed in the second half.

[Related: The seven most revealing quotes from Favre’s press conference]

One of the biggest problems in this situation is that Childress is allowed to run free within the organization. Because owner Zygi Wilf and team president Mark Wilf both live in New York, Childress doesn’t have to answer to anyone on a day-to-day basis. In the power structure between Childress, vice president of player personnel Rick Spielman and vice president of football operations Rob Brzezinski, Childress has the final say. He has taken that final say to mean that he can basically act as he pleases.

The heart of the conflict is Childress’ perceived lack of football savvy. Some players believe that most of the offensive coaching staff is made up of yes-men like Bevell. Furthermore, Childress is the type who doesn’t take outside ideas very well.

“He has his way of doing things and that’s it,” a player said.

This season, Childress almost didn’t get Favre as a result.

 

[Sabertooth]

Sweet, anything that helps the Packers reach their goals is A-OK by me.

 

[CentralPA]

And to think that they made it to the NFC Championship game and almost won. Makes you wonder if they had a coach like Rex Ryan what that team could accomplish.

 

[Happy Ragnarok]

I don't doubt for a second that Favre and Co have little respect for Childress.

But this is serial behavior for Favre. Happens every year, Childress or no Childress. Guy just wants to skip training camp, and can get away with it, because of who he is.

We can probably quit treating this like a mystery.

Some year, he won't show up. It won't be the year after he plays amazingly well.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

But this is serial behavior for Favre. Happens every year, Childress or no Childress. Guy just wants to skip training camp, and can get away with it, because of who he is.

Agree. Can't imagine this would be the issue regardless of what he may think of Childress. I can't stand the guy, but I do believe it was the ankle and him stringing it out as long as possible to see if he felt he could last the season on it. Oh, and to miss training camp.

 

[NoCheese]

I love these articles.

"A player said"

"Another player said"

"According to multiple team sources"

For all we know, this could be Jason Cole trying to throw stuff against the wall and see if it sticks. Just like the Adam Schefter "schism" article from last year.

I'm not even suggesting the article isn't true. I'm making a more modest argument that just because some writer says that "a Vikings player" or a "team source" has stated something doesn't make it true, yet people take these articles at face value.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

I love these articles."A player said""Another player said""According to multiple team sources"For all we know, this could be Jason Cole trying to throw stuff against the wall and see if it sticks. Just like the Adam Schefter "schism" article from last year.I'm not even suggesting the article isn't true. I'm making a more modest argument that just because some writer says that "a Vikings player" or a "team source" has stated something doesn't make it true, yet people take these articles at face value.

that's a lot of plagiarism you are lightly alleging... I have no reason to doubt the yahoo writer, and it makes sense why those quotes would need to be made annonymously, no?

 

[Clifford]

Like I said, 8-8.

 

[sho nuff]

Wait, I thought I was supposed to be the driving force of every anti-Favre or anti-Vikings thread and story?

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Wait, I thought I was supposed to be the driving force of every anti-Favre or anti-Vikings thread and story?

how is this either anti-favre or vikes?

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Wait, I thought I was supposed to be the driving force of every anti-Favre or anti-Vikings thread and story?

how is this either anti-favre or vikes?

 

[jon007]

Some year, he won't show up. It won't be the year after he plays amazingly well.

Good point. After whats happened over the last few days I'm beginning to believe the Vikes would be better off this year without Farve. I'm projecting more INT's than TD's this year.

 

[sho nuff]

Wait, I thought I was supposed to be the driving force of every anti-Favre or anti-Vikings thread and story?

how is this either anti-favre or vikes?

Its criticism, and no matter how valid it will be considered anti Vikings and Favre just for mentioning them.

 

[Doug B]

Wait, I thought I was supposed to be the driving force of every anti-Favre or anti-Vikings thread and story?

Well ... have you and Jason Cole ever been seen in the same room? You're not off the hook :(

 

[steelcityman]

Maybe I am over thinking it, but I am cutting Favre and not keeping any QB. Looks liek Minn might be in for a weird/bad year with Favre, Chilly and now Harvin having troubles.

it looks like Ryan, Kolb, Big Ben, Henne, McNabb, Favre and maybe Eli will be back in the draft pot, so as long I as get one of them, I should be okay.