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CHARLEY WALTERS: Minnesota Vikings-Brett Favre deal would be a win for all sides

Pioneer Press

Article Last Updated: 07/19/2008 10:30:46 PM CDT

If Brett Favre wants to play for the Vikings, which he seems to want to do, and if the Vikings want Favre, which they seem to, there would seem to be a deal to be made, with the NFL steering it behind the scenes.

A deal for the future hall of fame quarterback could be good business for the league. Getting Favre, even though he turns 39 in October, immediately would make the Vikings' chances of getting to the Super Bowl at least as good as any NFL team's. Favre obviously knows that because he would get to play with running back Adrian Peterson and wide receiver Bernard Berrian, and have Jared Allen chasing opposing quarterbacks.

With Favre, Berrian suddenly would become a one-on-one speed receiver who might set team records for touchdown catches. It wouldn't be like last season in Minnesota when defenses loaded the box against Peterson. Favre would become the Vikings' best quarterback since hall of famer Fran Tarkenton.

There's a business component in that a Super Bowl-contending team probably could improve the Vikings' chances of public approval for a new stadium as early as next year.

The Vikings haven't refuted Green Bay's charges of tampering with Favre, who on Saturday was in Green Bay to present Frank Winters at his induction into the Packers' Hall of Fame. The NFL could suggest quietly to the Packers that a first-round draft pick — or a second-rounder that could be upgraded, depending on performance — would placate Green Bay fans.

Tampering, depending on how it's defined, is relatively common, especially at free-agent time when players end up with multimillion-dollar, multiyear deals less than 24 hours after the signing period begins. Who's kidding whom?

The tampering issue, which is difficult to prove, would go away if the Vikings and Packers could make a deal. Favre would be happy, Vikings owner Zygi Wilf would be happy because his stadium chances improve, the Packers would be happy because they no longer have a whining Favre, and they get a high draft pick for a 38-year-old quarterback, and the NFL would be happy because the deal makes money for everybody. Which is what the NFL is all about. Everybody wins; it makes business sense.

There is virtually no chance that the Packers would release Favre so he could sign freely with the Vikings. Keeping Favre could become embarrassing for the Packers if he decides to disparage them.

"Monday Night Football" opens with the Vikings at Green Bay on Sept. 8. There's no doubt that Favre leading the Vikings against the Packers would set an all-time ESPN ratings record. The NFL would love that buzz.

Remember, Bill Parcells left the New England Patriots to coach the rival New York Jets. Bill Belichick left the Jets to coach the Patriots. In both cases, the NFL quietly stepped in to mediate. The league could do the same for the Vikings and Favre and make everybody happy.

Hall of fame coach Vince Lombardi left the Packers to coach the Washington Redskins. Unthinkable? It happened.

After what has transpired, it is difficult to believe Favre will play for the Packers this year. A Vikings-Favre deal makes sense.
I don't know who this guy is but if he is a professional writer the guy is an idiot. He is living in a world all by himself. I highlighted the things that are inaccurate, untrue or just a joke but thanks for sharing.
 
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I don't know who this guy is but if he is a professional writer the guy is an idiot. He is living in a world all by himself. I highlighted the things that are inaccurate, untrue or just a joke but thanks for sharing.
Hey. Thanks for sharing your opinion on that article. I was wondering if you could elaborate your difference of opinion with the writer of that article because simply bolding things doesn't show me what you mean.
 
I don't know who this guy is but if he is a professional writer the guy is an idiot. He is living in a world all by himself. I highlighted the things that are inaccurate, untrue or just a joke but thanks for sharing.
Hey. Thanks for sharing your opinion on that article. I was wondering if you could elaborate your difference of opinion with the writer of that article because simply bolding things doesn't show me what you mean.
Saying the Packers would be happy just to get a draft pick from them and get rid of him is where it pretty much gets to be a bit of BS.Calling it a win for everyone is where it gets to be BS. Need me to go on?
 
Hall of fame coach Vince Lombardi left the Packers to coach the Washington Redskins. Unthinkable? It happened.

After what has transpired, it is difficult to believe Favre will play for the Packers this year. A Vikings-Favre deal makes sense.
I don't know who this guy is but if he is a professional writer the guy is an idiot. He is living in a world all by himself. I highlighted the things that are inaccurate, untrue or just a joke but thanks for sharing.
ORLY?I agree, BTW, that the Bernard Berrian stuff is embarrassing.

 
I don't know who this guy is but if he is a professional writer the guy is an idiot. He is living in a world all by himself. I highlighted the things that are inaccurate, untrue or just a joke but thanks for sharing.
Hey. Thanks for sharing your opinion on that article. I was wondering if you could elaborate your difference of opinion with the writer of that article because simply bolding things doesn't show me what you mean.
Most of this is not opion but fact. HTH1. with the NFL steering it behind the scenes. Like the NFL front office gets involved in team trades and acts as a mediator.

2. Berrian suddenly would become a one-on-one speed receiver who might set team records for touchdown catches. I don't know what the team record is but Randy Moss caught 17 TDs twice and Chris Carter did it once. If you think Berrian could catch 18 TDs with Favre I can't help you.

3. free-agent Favre is not a free agent

4. The tampering issue, which is difficult to prove, would go away if the Vikings and Packers could make a deal. There must be a new rule that states that if the tampering team trades for the player they tampered with the charges must be dropped.

5. In both cases, the NFL quietly stepped in to mediate If I remember correctly there was nothing quiet about it and I believe the NFL dictated instead of mediated.

6. Vince Lombardi left the Packers to coach the Washington Redskins He did not leave to coach Washington, he left GB and a year later he accepted the HC job with Washington.

Edit: This is in response to Tatum Bell's post above.

I forgot that he stayed on as GM but to imply that "Vince left to go to Washington" is very misleading. As far as Packer fans were concerned he was already gone. It would be the same as saying 40 years from now that "Favre left GB to go to Minnesota".

 
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Beer...you have always been known as one of the biggest...if not the biggest Favre fanboy hater on this board. Your opinion of me means nothing.

And if you have read anything I have said in the past 2 weeks on Favre...very little of it has been apologizing for him.

Never have I even insinuated that he is just some poor scmuck who the media takes advantage of. He is responsible himself for answering the questions they ask. The point is...the media will keep asking and hounding because they know it gets listened to, and read, and talked about when it comes to Brett Favre.

Again...had this been Chad Clifton that retired and wanted to come back rather than Favre...we would have a tiny fraction of the media play that Favre has had.

The media was asked not to talk about it...Favre declined as well...as did the others. It was all involved who tried to respect the event.
I fixed one part above to make it factual, Sho. And what I've read of your posts comes across like someone who worships Favre more he than holds him accountable for his actions. JMHO, though.Again, all Favre has ever had to do was say, "No comment" or "I won't speak about that" (as he did yesterday evening) when it came to certain topics and there's no story for the media to run with. Pretty simple concept, no?

 
Thank you Charley Walters for writing this. Now I know it isn't true. Other rumors he started were:

Randy Moss for Larry Fitzgerald

Antonio Winfield for Larry Fitzgerald

Bryant McKinne for Julius Peppers

 
Beer...you have always been known as one of the biggest...if not the biggest Favre fanboy hater on this board. Your opinion of me means nothing.

And if you have read anything I have said in the past 2 weeks on Favre...very little of it has been apologizing for him.

Never have I even insinuated that he is just some poor scmuck who the media takes advantage of. He is responsible himself for answering the questions they ask. The point is...the media will keep asking and hounding because they know it gets listened to, and read, and talked about when it comes to Brett Favre.

Again...had this been Chad Clifton that retired and wanted to come back rather than Favre...we would have a tiny fraction of the media play that Favre has had.

The media was asked not to talk about it...Favre declined as well...as did the others. It was all involved who tried to respect the event.
I fixed one part above to make it factual, Sho. And what I've read of your posts comes across like someone who worships Favre more he than holds him accountable for his actions. JMHO, though.Again, all Favre has ever had to do was say, "No comment" or "I won't speak about that" (as he did yesterday evening) when it came to certain topics and there's no story for the media to run with. Pretty simple concept, no?
Then you have read nothing of mine or cannot understand simple English.And no...it has not just been about the fanboys...that much is obvious to everyone with you.

 
I don't know who this guy is but if he is a professional writer the guy is an idiot. He is living in a world all by himself. I highlighted the things that are inaccurate, untrue or just a joke but thanks for sharing.
Hey. Thanks for sharing your opinion on that article. I was wondering if you could elaborate your difference of opinion with the writer of that article because simply bolding things doesn't show me what you mean.
Most of this is not opion but fact. HTH1. with the NFL steering it behind the scenes. Like the NFL front office gets involved in team trades and acts as a mediator.

2. Berrian suddenly would become a one-on-one speed receiver who might set team records for touchdown catches. I don't know what the team record is but Randy Moss caught 17 TDs twice and Chris Carter did it once. If you think Berrian could catch 18 TDs with Favre I can't help you.

3. free-agent Favre is not a free agent

4. The tampering issue, which is difficult to prove, would go away if the Vikings and Packers could make a deal. There must be a new rule that states that if the tampering team trades for the player they tampered with the charges must be dropped.

5. In both cases, the NFL quietly stepped in to mediate If I remember correctly there was nothing quiet about it and I believe the NFL dictated instead of mediated.

6. Vince Lombardi left the Packers to coach the Washington Redskins He did not leave to coach Washington, he left GB and a year later he accepted the HC job with Washington.

Edit: This is in response to Tatum Bell's post above.

I forgot that he stayed on as GM but to imply that "Vince left to go to Washington" is very misleading. As far as Packer fans were concerned he was already gone. It would be the same as saying 40 years from now that "Favre left GB to go to Minnesota".
That's pretty much what I thought. I know it's only Charlie, I was just wondering why you would run your opinions alongside a statement against Lombardi not coaching the Skins. Kind of took you into the same territory as him.
 
Beer...you have always been known as one of the biggest...if not the biggest Favre fanboy hater on this board. Your opinion of me means nothing.

And if you have read anything I have said in the past 2 weeks on Favre...very little of it has been apologizing for him.

Never have I even insinuated that he is just some poor scmuck who the media takes advantage of. He is responsible himself for answering the questions they ask. The point is...the media will keep asking and hounding because they know it gets listened to, and read, and talked about when it comes to Brett Favre.

Again...had this been Chad Clifton that retired and wanted to come back rather than Favre...we would have a tiny fraction of the media play that Favre has had.

The media was asked not to talk about it...Favre declined as well...as did the others. It was all involved who tried to respect the event.
I fixed one part above to make it factual, Sho. And what I've read of your posts comes across like someone who worships Favre more he than holds him accountable for his actions. JMHO, though.Again, all Favre has ever had to do was say, "No comment" or "I won't speak about that" (as he did yesterday evening) when it came to certain topics and there's no story for the media to run with. Pretty simple concept, no?
Then you have read nothing of mine or cannot understand simple English.And no...it has not just been about the fanboys...that much is obvious to everyone with you.
Oh, I've read quite a bit of your "It's all just a rumor!" posts, Sho. I think I got the gist of them, really I do.....I will say I'm glad that people are finally seeing Favre for what he is: not a God who walks amongst us, but just another in a long line of athletes who think the world revolves around them. Sorry if you don't like that opinion. I can't see my POV affecting you all that much anyway unless, for some odd reason, you take what I think about Favre personally. :hifive:

 
CHARLEY WALTERS: Minnesota Vikings-Brett Favre deal would be a win for all sides

Pioneer Press

Article Last Updated: 07/19/2008 10:30:46 PM CDT

If Brett Favre wants to play for the Vikings, which he seems to want to do, and if the Vikings want Favre, which they seem to, there would seem to be a deal to be made, with the NFL steering it behind the scenes.

A deal for the future hall of fame quarterback could be good business for the league. Getting Favre, even though he turns 39 in October, immediately would make the Vikings' chances of getting to the Super Bowl at least as good as any NFL team's. Favre obviously knows that because he would get to play with running back Adrian Peterson and wide receiver Bernard Berrian, and have Jared Allen chasing opposing quarterbacks.

With Favre, Berrian suddenly would become a one-on-one speed receiver who might set team records for touchdown catches. It wouldn't be like last season in Minnesota when defenses loaded the box against Peterson. Favre would become the Vikings' best quarterback since hall of famer Fran Tarkenton.

There's a business component in that a Super Bowl-contending team probably could improve the Vikings' chances of public approval for a new stadium as early as next year.

The Vikings haven't refuted Green Bay's charges of tampering with Favre, who on Saturday was in Green Bay to present Frank Winters at his induction into the Packers' Hall of Fame. The NFL could suggest quietly to the Packers that a first-round draft pick — or a second-rounder that could be upgraded, depending on performance — would placate Green Bay fans.

Tampering, depending on how it's defined, is relatively common, especially at free-agent time when players end up with multimillion-dollar, multiyear deals less than 24 hours after the signing period begins. Who's kidding whom?

The tampering issue, which is difficult to prove, would go away if the Vikings and Packers could make a deal. Favre would be happy, Vikings owner Zygi Wilf would be happy because his stadium chances improve, the Packers would be happy because they no longer have a whining Favre, and they get a high draft pick for a 38-year-old quarterback, and the NFL would be happy because the deal makes money for everybody. Which is what the NFL is all about. Everybody wins; it makes business sense.

There is virtually no chance that the Packers would release Favre so he could sign freely with the Vikings. Keeping Favre could become embarrassing for the Packers if he decides to disparage them.

"Monday Night Football" opens with the Vikings at Green Bay on Sept. 8. There's no doubt that Favre leading the Vikings against the Packers would set an all-time ESPN ratings record. The NFL would love that buzz.

Remember, Bill Parcells left the New England Patriots to coach the rival New York Jets. Bill Belichick left the Jets to coach the Patriots. In both cases, the NFL quietly stepped in to mediate. The league could do the same for the Vikings and Favre and make everybody happy.

Hall of fame coach Vince Lombardi left the Packers to coach the Washington Redskins. Unthinkable? It happened.

After what has transpired, it is difficult to believe Favre will play for the Packers this year. A Vikings-Favre deal makes sense.
I don't know who this guy is but if he is a professional writer the guy is an idiot. He is living in a world all by himself. I highlighted the things that are inaccurate, untrue or just a joke but thanks for sharing.
he is a terrible reporter who works for the pioneer press. Really he is, he just makes stuff up all the time...
 
Beer...you have always been known as one of the biggest...if not the biggest Favre fanboy hater on this board. Your opinion of me means nothing.

And if you have read anything I have said in the past 2 weeks on Favre...very little of it has been apologizing for him.

Never have I even insinuated that he is just some poor scmuck who the media takes advantage of. He is responsible himself for answering the questions they ask. The point is...the media will keep asking and hounding because they know it gets listened to, and read, and talked about when it comes to Brett Favre.

Again...had this been Chad Clifton that retired and wanted to come back rather than Favre...we would have a tiny fraction of the media play that Favre has had.

The media was asked not to talk about it...Favre declined as well...as did the others. It was all involved who tried to respect the event.
I fixed one part above to make it factual, Sho. And what I've read of your posts comes across like someone who worships Favre more he than holds him accountable for his actions. JMHO, though.Again, all Favre has ever had to do was say, "No comment" or "I won't speak about that" (as he did yesterday evening) when it came to certain topics and there's no story for the media to run with. Pretty simple concept, no?
Then you have read nothing of mine or cannot understand simple English.And no...it has not just been about the fanboys...that much is obvious to everyone with you.
Oh, I've read quite a bit of your "It's all just a rumor!" posts, Sho. I think I got the gist of them, really I do.....I will say I'm glad that people are finally seeing Favre for what he is: not a God who walks amongst us, but just another in a long line of athletes who think the world revolves around them. Sorry if you don't like that opinion. I can't see my POV affecting you all that much anyway unless, for some odd reason, you take what I think about Favre personally. :thumbup:
By your posts in this thread...I don't think you read anything...other than this ongoing "rumor" crap that a few have decided to take and run with.Don't worry, I don't take your opinion of Favre or the Packers to mean anything given your history on this board.

 
CHARLEY WALTERS: Minnesota Vikings-Brett Favre deal would be a win for all sides

Pioneer Press

Article Last Updated: 07/19/2008 10:30:46 PM CDT

If Brett Favre wants to play for the Vikings, which he seems to want to do, and if the Vikings want Favre, which they seem to, there would seem to be a deal to be made, with the NFL steering it behind the scenes.

A deal for the future hall of fame quarterback could be good business for the league. Getting Favre, even though he turns 39 in October, immediately would make the Vikings' chances of getting to the Super Bowl at least as good as any NFL team's. Favre obviously knows that because he would get to play with running back Adrian Peterson and wide receiver Bernard Berrian, and have Jared Allen chasing opposing quarterbacks.

With Favre, Berrian suddenly would become a one-on-one speed receiver who might set team records for touchdown catches. It wouldn't be like last season in Minnesota when defenses loaded the box against Peterson. Favre would become the Vikings' best quarterback since hall of famer Fran Tarkenton.

There's a business component in that a Super Bowl-contending team probably could improve the Vikings' chances of public approval for a new stadium as early as next year.

The Vikings haven't refuted Green Bay's charges of tampering with Favre, who on Saturday was in Green Bay to present Frank Winters at his induction into the Packers' Hall of Fame. The NFL could suggest quietly to the Packers that a first-round draft pick — or a second-rounder that could be upgraded, depending on performance — would placate Green Bay fans.

Tampering, depending on how it's defined, is relatively common, especially at free-agent time when players end up with multimillion-dollar, multiyear deals less than 24 hours after the signing period begins. Who's kidding whom?

The tampering issue, which is difficult to prove, would go away if the Vikings and Packers could make a deal. Favre would be happy, Vikings owner Zygi Wilf would be happy because his stadium chances improve, the Packers would be happy because they no longer have a whining Favre, and they get a high draft pick for a 38-year-old quarterback, and the NFL would be happy because the deal makes money for everybody. Which is what the NFL is all about. Everybody wins; it makes business sense.

There is virtually no chance that the Packers would release Favre so he could sign freely with the Vikings. Keeping Favre could become embarrassing for the Packers if he decides to disparage them.

"Monday Night Football" opens with the Vikings at Green Bay on Sept. 8. There's no doubt that Favre leading the Vikings against the Packers would set an all-time ESPN ratings record. The NFL would love that buzz.

Remember, Bill Parcells left the New England Patriots to coach the rival New York Jets. Bill Belichick left the Jets to coach the Patriots. In both cases, the NFL quietly stepped in to mediate. The league could do the same for the Vikings and Favre and make everybody happy.

Hall of fame coach Vince Lombardi left the Packers to coach the Washington Redskins. Unthinkable? It happened.

After what has transpired, it is difficult to believe Favre will play for the Packers this year. A Vikings-Favre deal makes sense.
I don't know who this guy is but if he is a professional writer the guy is an idiot. He is living in a world all by himself. I highlighted the things that are inaccurate, untrue or just a joke but thanks for sharing.
he is a terrible reporter who works for the pioneer press. Really he is, he just makes stuff up all the time...
What is your opinion? I seem to have missed it. Perhaps you could be a little more forceful or persistent in sharing it then I would not have to ask.
 
Beer...you have always been known as one of the biggest...if not the biggest Favre fanboy hater on this board. Your opinion of me means nothing.

And if you have read anything I have said in the past 2 weeks on Favre...very little of it has been apologizing for him.

Never have I even insinuated that he is just some poor scmuck who the media takes advantage of. He is responsible himself for answering the questions they ask. The point is...the media will keep asking and hounding because they know it gets listened to, and read, and talked about when it comes to Brett Favre.

Again...had this been Chad Clifton that retired and wanted to come back rather than Favre...we would have a tiny fraction of the media play that Favre has had.

The media was asked not to talk about it...Favre declined as well...as did the others. It was all involved who tried to respect the event.
I fixed one part above to make it factual, Sho. And what I've read of your posts comes across like someone who worships Favre more he than holds him accountable for his actions. JMHO, though.Again, all Favre has ever had to do was say, "No comment" or "I won't speak about that" (as he did yesterday evening) when it came to certain topics and there's no story for the media to run with. Pretty simple concept, no?
Then you have read nothing of mine or cannot understand simple English.And no...it has not just been about the fanboys...that much is obvious to everyone with you.
Oh, I've read quite a bit of your "It's all just a rumor!" posts, Sho. I think I got the gist of them, really I do.....I will say I'm glad that people are finally seeing Favre for what he is: not a God who walks amongst us, but just another in a long line of athletes who think the world revolves around them. Sorry if you don't like that opinion. I can't see my POV affecting you all that much anyway unless, for some odd reason, you take what I think about Favre personally. :mellow:
By your posts in this thread...I don't think you read anything...other than this ongoing "rumor" crap that a few have decided to take and run with.Don't worry, I don't take your opinion of Favre or the Packers to mean anything given your history on this board.
Well, that's good to hear! Perhaps going forward you won't rush to rebut every single post of mine when I don't throw verbal bouquets at the feet of Favre then, eh? :lmao:
 
This seems to be getting worse for Favre each day...

Rotoworld:

The Packers reportedly have Brett Favre's phone records that included "repeated calls" from Favre's Packers-issued cellular phone to Vikings coach Brad Childress and offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell.

It's unbelievable Favre was brazen enough not to consider this biting him in the ###. He's either out of touch with reality or thought the Packers would be more loyal to him (even if it helps their division rivals). If this proves true, the Packers may pick up a draft pick from the NFL. Jul. 22 - 5:49 pm et

Source: Minneapolis Star-Tribune

Link Star Tribune

 
Rotoworld:The Packers reportedly have Brett Favre's phone records that included "repeated calls" from Favre's Packers-issued cellular phone to Vikings coach Brad Childress and offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell.
If that is true, it is unbelievably arrogant and/or stupid on Favre's part.
 
Is it standard for the teams to issue mobile phones to their players?
Just to add another turd to this pile of crap this has turned into. If this is a packer issued phone paid for by the packers and is used for personal use, doesnt' that cost have to be added in the players contract and used against the salary cap? I maybe wrong but I was under the impression the team isn't allowed to give gifts to the players unless the cost was part of the salary and goes against the cap. Use of a cell phone for personal use, I would think it would be a gift. I am just playing devil's advocate here.
 
Heh, gotta love this one paragraph in the Yahoo article about it. From http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_...l?urn=nfl,95401

Brett Favre might want to invest in his own cell phone

By MJD

It's not as poetically idiotic as Chris Henry getting arrested while wearing his own jersey, but this one's in the same neighborhood.

Remember those tampering charges that the Packers filed against the Vikings? And remember how I thought it would be difficult for the Packers to prove that Favre had made inappropriate contact with the Vikings?

Well, that assumed that Brett Favre wasn't using a Packers-issued cell phone to make those calls to the Vikings. As it turns out, Favre may have done exactly that.

From the Minneapolis Star-Tribune:

...Bob McGinn of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel had an interesting bit of information in a piece he wrote about the quarterback today.

McGinn writes that a source said Favre had continued to use a Packers-issued cell phone and that when the team checked the phone records it found “repeated calls to coach Brad Childress and offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell.”

The possibility of Favre having used a phone issued by the Packers had been speculated on last week after the Associated Press reported that Green Bay informed the NFL it felt “an investigation of the phone records would show more than ‘normal contact’ between the Vikings and Favre, even before he formally asked for his release to play for another team.”

In fairness to Favre, it should be mentioned that any phone calls he made to the Vikings were made in a gunslinging fashion, and through the entire conversation, he looked like a kid out there, just having fun.

Say this turns out to be true, and tampering by the Vikings can be proved. And say that the Packers do what they're expected to do, and block Favre from playing for the Vikings. Favre could end up costing the Vikings draft picks and fines while never playing a down for them, while also putting the Packers in this miserable position.

Give him a couple more weeks, and he might just find a way to tear down the entire NFC North.
 
Heh, gotta love this one paragraph in the Yahoo article about it. From http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_...l?urn=nfl,95401

Brett Favre might want to invest in his own cell phone

By MJD

It's not as poetically idiotic as Chris Henry getting arrested while wearing his own jersey, but this one's in the same neighborhood.

Remember those tampering charges that the Packers filed against the Vikings? And remember how I thought it would be difficult for the Packers to prove that Favre had made inappropriate contact with the Vikings?

Well, that assumed that Brett Favre wasn't using a Packers-issued cell phone to make those calls to the Vikings. As it turns out, Favre may have done exactly that.

From the Minneapolis Star-Tribune:

...Bob McGinn of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel had an interesting bit of information in a piece he wrote about the quarterback today.

McGinn writes that a source said Favre had continued to use a Packers-issued cell phone and that when the team checked the phone records it found “repeated calls to coach Brad Childress and offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell.”

The possibility of Favre having used a phone issued by the Packers had been speculated on last week after the Associated Press reported that Green Bay informed the NFL it felt “an investigation of the phone records would show more than ‘normal contact’ between the Vikings and Favre, even before he formally asked for his release to play for another team.”

In fairness to Favre, it should be mentioned that any phone calls he made to the Vikings were made in a gunslinging fashion, and through the entire conversation, he looked like a kid out there, just having fun.

Say this turns out to be true, and tampering by the Vikings can be proved. And say that the Packers do what they're expected to do, and block Favre from playing for the Vikings. Favre could end up costing the Vikings draft picks and fines while never playing a down for them, while also putting the Packers in this miserable position.

Give him a couple more weeks, and he might just find a way to tear down the entire NFC North.
I love the caption in the photo too. If this is true, then Favre was just being plain stupid.

 
The NFL had members of its security department at Winter Park on Tuesday to interview Vikings officials regarding the tampering charges the Green Bay Packers filed against Minnesota for "inappropriate dialogue" with quarterback Brett Favre, according to people with knowledge of the situation.

While the sources did not know exactly with whom NFL officials spoke, it's believed that Vikings coach Brad Childress and offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell were questioned. The fact the Vikings were asked for their side of the story a day before the team was to report to training camp and less than two weeks after the Packers filed the charges could be an indication the league is hoping to resolve the issue quickly.

It marked the latest twist in the Favre-Packers summer soap opera that now involves Green Bay's NFL neighbors to the west. ESPN reported Tuesday night that Favre -- who retired in March, then decided he wanted to unretire -- "clearly prefers to play for the Vikings."
While the Packers won't release Favre, the NFL Network reported Tuesday that the team has talked to multiple clubs about what it would be willing to offer in a trade and that calls have been made to franchises in both conferences.

ESPN reported later Tuesday that sources from the NFL and its players union said Packers General Manager Ted Thompson started making calls to other teams "after being encouraged by NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell to resolve the controversy surrounding Favre before they begin training camp Sunday."
Minneapolis Star Tribune
 
Is it standard for the teams to issue mobile phones to their players?
Good question!"I'm not signing that contract until you throw in a cell phone! How do you expect someone to live on only $12 million?"
It's hilarious. I know a lot of pros still get a per diem on the road, to pay for food.
One of the sports radio guys was discussing this yesterday.Saying that most of the athletes he knew were cheap.They would hold onto any freebie until the team pried it out of their hands.Sure they will spend money on things they want...but you give them something free...you better be willing to go get it back if you need it.
 
I thought I heard something on NFL Network that Favre said he didn't have a team issued phone, and that someone from the MJS started that one.

 
datonn said:
So, in their zeal to put the screws to Minnesota, did they step on their collective crank and open a different can of worms here? And does the charge now become more of a, "Well, we think they talked to Bretty, but we, uh, don't have any specific proof. Can you check their phone records based on this hunch we have?" type thing?
I would bet that's exactly what happened. They had someone in the organization whisper to someone at the MJC that he had a Packers cell phone, then they realized that would be a violation so they now are saying that he doesn't have one. Favre certainly is the most at fault in this, but the Green Bay organization is looking pretty stupid as well.

 
datonn said:
So, in their zeal to put the screws to Minnesota, did they step on their collective crank and open a different can of worms here? And does the charge now become more of a, "Well, we think they talked to Bretty, but we, uh, don't have any specific proof. Can you check their phone records based on this hunch we have?" type thing?
I would bet that's exactly what happened. They had someone in the organization whisper to someone at the MJC that he had a Packers cell phone, then they realized that would be a violation so they now are saying that he doesn't have one. Favre certainly is the most at fault in this, but the Green Bay organization is looking pretty stupid as well.
There was a guy from the Press Gazette on the radio yesterday trying to explain the situation. The cell phone in question wasn't issued or paid for by the Packers but was offered to Favre (and the rest of the players) by the cell phone company (Verizon) at special rates because the Packers have Verizon as their provider and have so many cell phones. Much like any other large company. He also said Favre had several cell phones, one for each vehicle. That way he didn't have to carry his phone around in his pockets. Not sure how this plays into the "having phone records" angle though.
 
datonn said:
So, in their zeal to put the screws to Minnesota, did they step on their collective crank and open a different can of worms here? And does the charge now become more of a, "Well, we think they talked to Bretty, but we, uh, don't have any specific proof. Can you check their phone records based on this hunch we have?" type thing?
Or for once you actually hold the media accountable rather than just trying to bash the team.Im sure they do have specific evidence and have apparently handed it over to the NFL...who has sent people to Minny to interview people and investigate.

So...apparently the team had more than just "we think they talked to him".

From the linked article...

At least two media reports recently said the Packers’ evidence for those calls are records they have from a phone the team gave Favre.
Not the Packers...but 2 media reports.
 
datonn said:
So, in their zeal to put the screws to Minnesota, did they step on their collective crank and open a different can of worms here? And does the charge now become more of a, "Well, we think they talked to Bretty, but we, uh, don't have any specific proof. Can you check their phone records based on this hunch we have?" type thing?
Or for once you actually hold the media accountable rather than just trying to bash the team.Im sure they do have specific evidence and have apparently handed it over to the NFL...who has sent people to Minny to interview people and investigate.

So...apparently the team had more than just "we think they talked to him".

From the linked article...

At least two media reports recently said the Packers’ evidence for those calls are records they have from a phone the team gave Favre.
Not the Packers...but 2 media reports.
The local news in Minneapolis is reporting that the "alledged" phone calls were not made on a Packer issued phone.
 
datonn said:
So, in their zeal to put the screws to Minnesota, did they step on their collective crank and open a different can of worms here? And does the charge now become more of a, "Well, we think they talked to Bretty, but we, uh, don't have any specific proof. Can you check their phone records based on this hunch we have?" type thing?
Get a grip man. The NFL wouldn't take such a claim seriously.

 
datonn said:
So, in their zeal to put the screws to Minnesota, did they step on their collective crank and open a different can of worms here? And does the charge now become more of a, "Well, we think they talked to Bretty, but we, uh, don't have any specific proof. Can you check their phone records based on this hunch we have?" type thing?
Or for once you actually hold the media accountable rather than just trying to bash the team.Im sure they do have specific evidence and have apparently handed it over to the NFL...who has sent people to Minny to interview people and investigate.

So...apparently the team had more than just "we think they talked to him".

From the linked article...

At least two media reports recently said the Packers’ evidence for those calls are records they have from a phone the team gave Favre.
Not the Packers...but 2 media reports.
The local news in Minneapolis is reporting that the "alledged" phone calls were not made on a Packer issued phone.
We already knew that...hence the article above.
 
datonn said:
So, in their zeal to put the screws to Minnesota, did they step on their collective crank and open a different can of worms here? And does the charge now become more of a, "Well, we think they talked to Bretty, but we, uh, don't have any specific proof. Can you check their phone records based on this hunch we have?" type thing?
Or for once you actually hold the media accountable rather than just trying to bash the team.Im sure they do have specific evidence and have apparently handed it over to the NFL...who has sent people to Minny to interview people and investigate.

So...apparently the team had more than just "we think they talked to him".

From the linked article...

At least two media reports recently said the Packers’ evidence for those calls are records they have from a phone the team gave Favre.
Not the Packers...but 2 media reports.
The local news in Minneapolis is reporting that the "alledged" phone calls were not made on a Packer issued phone.
We already knew that...hence the article above.
Sorry, didn't read the article...I hope you can get back the time you spent reading my time consuming post.
 
datonn said:
So, in their zeal to put the screws to Minnesota, did they step on their collective crank and open a different can of worms here? And does the charge now become more of a, "Well, we think they talked to Bretty, but we, uh, don't have any specific proof. Can you check their phone records based on this hunch we have?" type thing?
Or for once you actually hold the media accountable rather than just trying to bash the team.Im sure they do have specific evidence and have apparently handed it over to the NFL...who has sent people to Minny to interview people and investigate.

So...apparently the team had more than just "we think they talked to him".

From the linked article...

At least two media reports recently said the Packers’ evidence for those calls are records they have from a phone the team gave Favre.
Not the Packers...but 2 media reports.
I would wait until the sources are named before I took it as gospel. Just to clarify.
 
datonn said:
So, in their zeal to put the screws to Minnesota, did they step on their collective crank and open a different can of worms here? And does the charge now become more of a, "Well, we think they talked to Bretty, but we, uh, don't have any specific proof. Can you check their phone records based on this hunch we have?" type thing?
Or for once you actually hold the media accountable rather than just trying to bash the team.Im sure they do have specific evidence and have apparently handed it over to the NFL...who has sent people to Minny to interview people and investigate.

So...apparently the team had more than just "we think they talked to him".

From the linked article...

At least two media reports recently said the Packers’ evidence for those calls are records they have from a phone the team gave Favre.
Not the Packers...but 2 media reports.
I would wait until the sources are named before I took it as gospel. Just to clarify.
Agreed...just clarifying that automatically assuming it was the Packers who stated it was a Packers cell phone when the article only mentions 2 media sources is a bit out there.But this is proving there is no telling what has really gone on in this.

You have reports of it was a Packers cell phone...then its not.

You have reports he may just stay retired...then that he may file within 72 hours.

You have reports that they are shopping him but have not talked to the Bucs....then the Bucs have apparently contacted them...

You have reports he will be traded soon...then those that say there is nothing on table.

 
datonn said:
So, in their zeal to put the screws to Minnesota, did they step on their collective crank and open a different can of worms here? And does the charge now become more of a, "Well, we think they talked to Bretty, but we, uh, don't have any specific proof. Can you check their phone records based on this hunch we have?" type thing?
Or for once you actually hold the media accountable rather than just trying to bash the team.Im sure they do have specific evidence and have apparently handed it over to the NFL...who has sent people to Minny to interview people and investigate.

So...apparently the team had more than just "we think they talked to him".

From the linked article...

At least two media reports recently said the Packers’ evidence for those calls are records they have from a phone the team gave Favre.
Not the Packers...but 2 media reports.
I would wait until the sources are named before I took it as gospel. Just to clarify.
Agreed...just clarifying that automatically assuming it was the Packers who stated it was a Packers cell phone when the article only mentions 2 media sources is a bit out there.But this is proving there is no telling what has really gone on in this.

You have reports of it was a Packers cell phone...then its not.

You have reports he may just stay retired...then that he may file within 72 hours.

You have reports that they are shopping him but have not talked to the Bucs....then the Bucs have apparently contacted them...

You have reports he will be traded soon...then those that say there is nothing on table.
Yeah it's pretty weird. I am assuming, and I know it's dangerous to assume, that by the start of Packers camp this weekend we'll all have a clearer view of exactly what's going to happen. I think more things are happening behind the scenes that we aren't hearing about. Atleast with Favre's playing, at any rate. The tampering issue will probably be cleared up before long as well.
 
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