Decent? Have you watched any of the games?Do decent Olines allow DEs to come around the outside and hit the RB in the backfield several times?Its one thing to have a small hole...its another to be consistenly hit at or behind the line of scrimmage.mdog1967 said:Packs O-Line has been pretty decent, in the NFL they dont open up super market lanes, they make small spaces for the RB to fit thru.
Sep. 16, 2007 - 4:17 p.m. ET Rookie RB DeShawn Wynn ran ten times for 50 yards and two touchdowns as the Packers downed the Giants 35-13 in Week 2. He had two catches for 18 yards. Wynn has always had the talent and the coaching staff is high on him, but the Packers' schedule coming up is brutal. It does appear that he is Green Bay's go-to option in goal-line situations over Brandon Jackson. Consider adding Wynn in deeper leagues, but this could turn out to be his best game all year.![]()
Well if your asking for 6 seconds of the o-line to hold your crazy, they have been at least average, god quit trying to sell Jackson he cant decide wich way to run and that more than anything else gets his butt pancacked in the backfield. Wynn, Morency whoever it aint Jackson and you ant blame his steller play on the line. If you drafted him you blew it. Man Up.spurs44 said:Sep. 16, 2007 - 4:17 p.m. ET Rookie RB DeShawn Wynn ran ten times for 50 yards and two touchdowns as the Packers downed the Giants 35-13 in Week 2. He had two catches for 18 yards. Wynn has always had the talent and the coaching staff is high on him, but the Packers' schedule coming up is brutal. It does appear that he is Green Bay's go-to option in goal-line situations over Brandon Jackson. Consider adding Wynn in deeper leagues, but this could turn out to be his best game all year.![]()
Don't know about the talent yet as it does appear as though the offensive line at least at this point seems less than adequate. However, if your in a deep dynasty league he might be worth picking up as a goaline vulture that could turn out to be more. I still think Morency will be given a shot at the starting gig based on experience and past performances once he becomes healthy.
Ron Dayne, William Green, & Curtis Enis were good in college. <_< P.S. - who's "us"?p.s. in the past i mean he ran all over us every time we played him in the SEC so i don't understand what there is not to like
RB's coach Edgar Bennett compared Grant to Dorsey Levsns. He has some explosion but only played on one screen. I [picked hm up in 2 leagues but ti will be RB/RB/RB/RB/BC UNTIL SOMEONE STEPS UP.Ok - reading through the thread - lots of interesting thoughts on GB RB:Morency - speculated that his injury may lingerJackson - not really getting much done with the carriesWynn - Goal line carries and rips off a long runGrant - GB traded for him, so they might want to see him on the field moreJackson and Morency are probably taken in deeper leagues - so this really comes up as whether or not to put eggs in Wynn's basket, Grant's basket, or just stay away. I think we all see that a player like Ward can come out of nowhere to help a fantasy team. Picking through this - Wynn might be the short term plug in - but Grant something to consider as well?Thoughts??? Personally, I'm debating whether or not to shoot for Wynn or Grant on a waiver pickup
I don't remember the exact quote, but last week Favre said that he thinks Wynn is on the same page as him because of the playground hand-off play in week 1.As a Packer fan, I can tell you that this is a complete crapshoot if you have to play any of these guys. IF Morency can ever play, I have a feeling he will at least be the third down back as he has the most experience in picking up the blitz. Jackson is not a good blocker. I almost get the feeling from reading in between the lines of both local articles and press conferences that the Packers are higher on both Wynn and Grant, but that Jackson has been in camp the whole time, uninjured and just knows more at this point.
Overall, the Packers haven't really proven they can run the ball consistently. Combine that with a potential 4-headed monster at rb, and the fact the Packers led the league in pass attempts last year and the outlook of getting solid production from any of these guys is suspect.
Personally, I feel like Wynn, in his limited time, has shown more than Jackson, but that doesn't mean much.
Noone's asking for 6 seconds but it is fair to ask the offensive line to at least block a guy until the RB has the ball. There was a couple of times in the Giants game that defensive lineman were on the RB pretty much at the same time as the handoff. Even Aikman commented about how the Giant's D line was doing that on every 3rd play or so. Week 1 Favre was running for his life the entire game. While I agree they need more talent at the running back I think their offensive line needs to step up as well.Well if your asking for 6 seconds of the o-line to hold your crazy, they have been at least average, god quit trying to sell Jackson he cant decide wich way to run and that more than anything else gets his butt pancacked in the backfield. Wynn, Morency whoever it aint Jackson and you ant blame his steller play on the line. If you drafted him you blew it. Man Up.spurs44 said:Sep. 16, 2007 - 4:17 p.m. ET Rookie RB DeShawn Wynn ran ten times for 50 yards and two touchdowns as the Packers downed the Giants 35-13 in Week 2. He had two catches for 18 yards. Wynn has always had the talent and the coaching staff is high on him, but the Packers' schedule coming up is brutal. It does appear that he is Green Bay's go-to option in goal-line situations over Brandon Jackson. Consider adding Wynn in deeper leagues, but this could turn out to be his best game all year.![]()
Don't know about the talent yet as it does appear as though the offensive line at least at this point seems less than adequate. However, if your in a deep dynasty league he might be worth picking up as a goaline vulture that could turn out to be more. I still think Morency will be given a shot at the starting gig based on experience and past performances once he becomes healthy.
This is absolutally correct. Wynn's number are inflated because of this. Give Jackson some time. I remember being frustrated as all heck with Ahman Green early on too, and he turned out to be on of the best backs Green Bay ever had. BTW, he was also a 2nd round pick out of Nebraska.The past 2 weeks the only time I've seen a decent run from the Packers is when its 3rd and long and the defense is obviously playing the pass. It just so happens the RB that gets that hand off in that situation is Wynn.![]()
Yeah I have seen that too....sounds way different than going on IR.From last night's Wisconsin State Journal
McCarthy said halfback Vernand Morency will again practice hard on Wednesday and then be re-examined on Thursday, just as he was last week. ``He has to get through a full day and not have that soreness, because (the doctors) just don't want (him) to go backwards,'' McCarthy said.
Um there's a rumor out there that he could be done for the year. It's just a rumor but there is concern in Packer camp because everytime he tries to practice it ends up bothering him again. Even if this is false I can't imagine him being anywhere near 100% anytime soon since he's missed the entire preseason and hasn't been practicing.Why is anyone screwing around. Go out and acquire Morency while his value is low. The job is his. I dont think there was ever a question.
1. Wynn has ran better than Jackson.2. GB reached to take Jackson in the second round. Many scouts had Jackson going in the late 3rd to 4th round. Jackson has been fodder so far.This is absolutally correct. Wynn's number are inflated because of this. Give Jackson some time. I remember being frustrated as all heck with Ahman Green early on too, and he turned out to be on of the best backs Green Bay ever had. BTW, he was also a 2nd round pick out of Nebraska.The past 2 weeks the only time I've seen a decent run from the Packers is when its 3rd and long and the defense is obviously playing the pass. It just so happens the RB that gets that hand off in that situation is Wynn.![]()
I'd agree with what you've got here.I'm scratching Morency because of the knee.I'm scratching Jackson because of the ineffectiveness.Wynn and Grant are on the radar. If there was only one or the other in the picture, I'd be all over it. But since both are legit contenders, they kinda cancel each other out. And then there's the line play to consider.My gut says Grant might be the guy to take the flyer on, if you're going to take the plunge. But ask me again n 5 minutes, and I'll probably say Wynn.Ok - reading through the thread - lots of interesting thoughts on GB RB:Morency - speculated that his injury may lingerJackson - not really getting much done with the carriesWynn - Goal line carries and rips off a long runGrant - GB traded for him, so they might want to see him on the field moreJackson and Morency are probably taken in deeper leagues - so this really comes up as whether or not to put eggs in Wynn's basket, Grant's basket, or just stay away. I think we all see that a player like Ward can come out of nowhere to help a fantasy team. Picking through this - Wynn might be the short term plug in - but Grant something to consider as well?Thoughts??? Personally, I'm debating whether or not to shoot for Wynn or Grant on a waiver pickup
Grant isn't nearly as big as Wynn, so he is more likely to, at best, become the main runner between the 20's. From the looks of the GB rushing attack, that will mean 20 carries for 50 yards as a typical game. Wynn as the 3rd down back and goal line back is more likely to end up tallying more fantasy points than Grant even if Grant became the primary ballcarrier. I think between the two Wynn is the easy choice. His ceiling is getting the carries between the 20's AND at the goal line. Hard to imagine Grant earning that big of a role.I'd agree with what you've got here.I'm scratching Morency because of the knee.I'm scratching Jackson because of the ineffectiveness.Wynn and Grant are on the radar. If there was only one or the other in the picture, I'd be all over it. But since both are legit contenders, they kinda cancel each other out. And then there's the line play to consider.My gut says Grant might be the guy to take the flyer on, if you're going to take the plunge. But ask me again n 5 minutes, and I'll probably say Wynn.Ok - reading through the thread - lots of interesting thoughts on GB RB:Morency - speculated that his injury may lingerJackson - not really getting much done with the carriesWynn - Goal line carries and rips off a long runGrant - GB traded for him, so they might want to see him on the field moreJackson and Morency are probably taken in deeper leagues - so this really comes up as whether or not to put eggs in Wynn's basket, Grant's basket, or just stay away. I think we all see that a player like Ward can come out of nowhere to help a fantasy team. Picking through this - Wynn might be the short term plug in - but Grant something to consider as well?Thoughts??? Personally, I'm debating whether or not to shoot for Wynn or Grant on a waiver pickup![]()
LinkRunning back Vernand Morency also did not practice today and seems likely to miss another game because of the knee injury he suffered the first day of camp.