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Packers Scrimmage (1 Viewer)

Aaronstory

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The Packers are in major trouble at left tackle. If Clifton misses any time, the duds they are parading out there tonight will get Favre killed.

Greg Jennings is the real deal.

Samkon Gado and Noah Herron look like decent backs, but nothing special.

Gardner is trash. I'd wager (if I was a wagerin' guy ;) ) he gets cut in favor of Revell Martin.

Abdul Hodge made a wicked hit and hurt...himself.

Favre will still be throwing it up for Jesus, thank you very much.

A. J. Hawk was spookily quiet.

Greg Jennings is the real deal. Oh, did I say that already?

 
Watching the scrimmage on NFL network as well. Nothing really of note...Jennings does look good. Rodgers looks a lot more comfortable in the pocket. That's about it.

 
Gardner is trash. I'd wager (if I was a wagerin' guy ;) ) he gets cut in favor of Revell Martin.
How did Ruvell look?
As good as his press clippings.
I've seen people say he was excellent all spring. I've also seen some think he and Jennings could play significant time but then again they wind up saying Ruvell will fight for a roster spot and....that doesn't add up for me.....please elaborate
 
Gardner is trash. I'd wager (if I was a wagerin' guy ;) ) he gets cut in favor of Revell Martin.
How did Ruvell look?
As good as his press clippings.
I've seen people say he was excellent all spring. I've also seen some think he and Jennings could play significant time but then again they wind up saying Ruvell will fight for a roster spot and....that doesn't add up for me.....please elaborate
Hmmm... I haven't seen anything about Martin getting 'significant time', only that he stood out at almost every minicamp practice as one of the only WRs making any plays. If he has a preseason game or two like he did tonight, it would make it awful tough for a Packers team with losers like Ferguson and Gardner to justify keeping them over a cheap, hungry, talented player.
 
Gardner is trash. I'd wager (if I was a wagerin' guy ;) ) he gets cut in favor of Revell Martin.
How did Ruvell look?
As good as his press clippings.
I've seen people say he was excellent all spring. I've also seen some think he and Jennings could play significant time but then again they wind up saying Ruvell will fight for a roster spot and....that doesn't add up for me.....please elaborate
Hmmm... I haven't seen anything about Martin getting 'significant time', only that he stood out at almost every minicamp practice as one of the only WRs making any plays. If he has a preseason game or two like he did tonight, it would make it awful tough for a Packers team with losers like Ferguson and Gardner to justify keeping them over a cheap, hungry, talented player.
thanks
 
Gardner is trash. I'd wager (if I was a wagerin' guy ;) ) he gets cut in favor of Revell Martin.
How did Ruvell look?
As good as his press clippings.
I've seen people say he was excellent all spring. I've also seen some think he and Jennings could play significant time but then again they wind up saying Ruvell will fight for a roster spot and....that doesn't add up for me.....please elaborate
I saw Ruvell make one really nice catch and run where was pushed into an official at the end of the play. That said, I can list ten WRs every off-season who look good in practice and even preseason games and whose career highlights are hanging onto the practice squad for a couple of years. Guys like Ruvell, an UDFA, are always just fighting for a roster spot.
 
Gardner is trash. I'd wager (if I was a wagerin' guy ;) ) he gets cut in favor of Revell Martin.
How did Ruvell look?
As good as his press clippings.
I've seen people say he was excellent all spring. I've also seen some think he and Jennings could play significant time but then again they wind up saying Ruvell will fight for a roster spot and....that doesn't add up for me.....please elaborate
I saw Ruvell make one really nice catch and run where was pushed into an official at the end of the play. That said, I can list ten WRs every off-season who look good in practice and even preseason games and whose career highlights are hanging onto the practice squad for a couple of years. Guys like Ruvell, an UDFA, are always just fighting for a roster spot.
I hope he doesn't just make it and gets to play.
 
Gardner is trash. I'd wager (if I was a wagerin' guy ;) ) he gets cut in favor of Revell Martin.
How did Ruvell look?
As good as his press clippings.
I've seen people say he was excellent all spring. I've also seen some think he and Jennings could play significant time but then again they wind up saying Ruvell will fight for a roster spot and....that doesn't add up for me.....please elaborate
I saw Ruvell make one really nice catch and run where was pushed into an official at the end of the play. That said, I can list ten WRs every off-season who look good in practice and even preseason games and whose career highlights are hanging onto the practice squad for a couple of years. Guys like Ruvell, an UDFA, are always just fighting for a roster spot.
I hope he doesn't just make it and gets to play.
His first step is just to make it. The road for guys like him are filled with practice squads , special teams, injuries to veterans, no 1st round Wrs and then performing near perfectly when and if you get a chance. Not saying he can't play but any reports talking about any rookie FA playing over even mediocore at best guys like Ferguson and Gardner are premature.
 
Why was Woodson standing around on the sidelines? Is he hurt already?

Driver looked pretty good. Agree with all the OP's points fron the 1/2 hour I saw.

 
Agreed with several of you on Jennings. He looks good. Reminds me of Darrell Jackson, don't ask my why.. DJax just popped into my head.

Not sure why everyone wants to write off Gado as just another average back.. I didn't think he looked tremendous or bad. In a scrimmage, that's about all I expected, too. I think Gado has enough skills to be a valuable back if Green/Davenport aren't up to snuff. Gado was and is hungry. Talent aside, that's one characteristic I find intriguing in a player like that. Those kind of guys are always fun to watch and more fun to own when/if they breakthrough.

 
Agreed with several of you on Jennings. He looks good. Reminds me of Darrell Jackson, don't ask my why.. DJax just popped into my head.Not sure why everyone wants to write off Gado as just another average back.. I didn't think he looked tremendous or bad. In a scrimmage, that's about all I expected, too. I think Gado has enough skills to be a valuable back if Green/Davenport aren't up to snuff. Gado was and is hungry. Talent aside, that's one characteristic I find intriguing in a player like that. Those kind of guys are always fun to watch and more fun to own when/if they breakthrough.
Agree on Jennings, disagree on Gado. He danced too much for my liking. He's a power back who needs holes (doesn't seem to have the vision). I thought the same last year (and as a Packer fan I want him to succeed). Of course it cuuld just be that horrible O-line :wall:
 
Biggest thing to me is Gado looked average/mediocre at best. Green Bay is in trouble if he is the best they have healthy again.
He's still struggling with the zone scheme and last night wa the first time they actually blocked against real defenders.Herron looked better. Ahman said he hs played in it in HS and at nebraska.Driver and Fevre looked great.Jennings to me looks like a Driver clone.
 
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Gardner is trash. I'd wager (if I was a wagerin' guy ;) ) he gets cut in favor of Revell Martin.
How did Ruvell look?
As good as his press clippings.
I've seen people say he was excellent all spring. I've also seen some think he and Jennings could play significant time but then again they wind up saying Ruvell will fight for a roster spot and....that doesn't add up for me.....please elaborate
I saw Ruvell make one really nice catch and run where was pushed into an official at the end of the play. That said, I can list ten WRs every off-season who look good in practice and even preseason games and whose career highlights are hanging onto the practice squad for a couple of years. Guys like Ruvell, an UDFA, are always just fighting for a roster spot.
I hope he doesn't just make it and gets to play.
His first step is just to make it. The road for guys like him are filled with practice squads , special teams, injuries to veterans, no 1st round Wrs and then performing near perfectly when and if you get a chance. Not saying he can't play but any reports talking about any rookie FA playing over even mediocore at best guys like Ferguson and Gardner are premature.
He's not a rookie FA
 
Agreed with several of you on Jennings. He looks good. Reminds me of Darrell Jackson, don't ask my why.. DJax just popped into my head.Not sure why everyone wants to write off Gado as just another average back.. I didn't think he looked tremendous or bad. In a scrimmage, that's about all I expected, too. I think Gado has enough skills to be a valuable back if Green/Davenport aren't up to snuff. Gado was and is hungry. Talent aside, that's one characteristic I find intriguing in a player like that. Those kind of guys are always fun to watch and more fun to own when/if they breakthrough.
Agree on Jennings, disagree on Gado. He danced too much for my liking. He's a power back who needs holes (doesn't seem to have the vision). I thought the same last year (and as a Packer fan I want him to succeed). Of course it cuuld just be that horrible O-line :wall:
Actually, outside of LT, I was pleasantly suprised by the O-line. The rookie LG looked very solid, and Wells at center looked solid as well. But again, if Clifton misses any time at all, they are screwed. (Barring some kind of move in the next few weeks...)
 
The 10 minutes I watched on NFL Network included a couple of missed FG's from 40-45 yards - by both kickers. Proceed with caution.

 
Greg Jennings is one of the safest picks in a rookie draft, IMO. He's pretty much a clone of Isaac Bruce. You can never predict a rookie WR to make an impact, but it wouldn't surprise me if he has a really nice season (for a rookie). I believe he'll be a top FF WR in '08 (if he gets decent QBing).

 
Gardner is trash. I'd wager (if I was a wagerin' guy ;) ) he gets cut in favor of Revell Martin.
How did Ruvell look?
As good as his press clippings.
I've seen people say he was excellent all spring. I've also seen some think he and Jennings could play significant time but then again they wind up saying Ruvell will fight for a roster spot and....that doesn't add up for me.....please elaborate
I saw Ruvell make one really nice catch and run where was pushed into an official at the end of the play. That said, I can list ten WRs every off-season who look good in practice and even preseason games and whose career highlights are hanging onto the practice squad for a couple of years. Guys like Ruvell, an UDFA, are always just fighting for a roster spot.
I hope he doesn't just make it and gets to play.
His first step is just to make it. The road for guys like him are filled with practice squads , special teams, injuries to veterans, no 1st round Wrs and then performing near perfectly when and if you get a chance. Not saying he can't play but any reports talking about any rookie FA playing over even mediocore at best guys like Ferguson and Gardner are premature.
He's not a rookie FA
Okay, you are correct, but the 7 weeks on the practice squad actually plays right into the situation I just painted. Ruvell has still never made a 53 man roster and doing that is his first order business.
 
so Greg Jennings = Darrell Jackson + Isaac Bruce + Donald Driver
Something like that. ;) In all seriousness, you always have to wonder when a guy comes from a school like Western Michigan if he can make the transition. Hell, it's hard for players coming out of premier colleges. Anyway, I believe he most resembles Bruce. He's just so silky-smooth & like Bruce, he hardly loses any speed when he makes his cuts. It's simply a physical gift. In short, he may not have the ceiling of somebody like Chad Jackson (who I also like), but Jennings' floor is higher than Jackson's. If he gets decent QBing, Jennings will be a stud, IMO.
 
Greg Jennings is one of the safest picks in a rookie draft, IMO. He's pretty much a clone of Isaac Bruce. You can never predict a rookie WR to make an impact, but it wouldn't surprise me if he has a really nice season (for a rookie). I believe he'll be a top FF WR in '08 (if he gets decent QBing).
Make no mistake, Jennings is the real deal. The guy is a football player. I think he starts this season by default because Ferguson and Gardner just aren't getting it done. I wouldn't be surprised to see him somewhere around 600-700 yards and 4 or 5 touchdowns. Probably not worth consideration as anything more than a spot starter or bye week guy in redrafts, but definitely a guy to consider in dynasty situations.
 
so Greg Jennings = Darrell Jackson + Isaac Bruce + Donald Driver
Something like that. ;) In all seriousness, you always have to wonder when a guy comes from a school like Western Michigan if he can make the transition. Hell, it's hard for players coming out of premier colleges.
Really? There are several WRs that have done just fine coming from a smaller college. Donald Driver has done fine with the Packers. Not to mention Jerry Rice and Randy Moss.
 
I had Jennings on my college fantasy team the past three years and made sure to draft him in my Zealots league because I liked what I had seen from him.

He's not a burner, but he's good at getting off the line and catching the ball in traffic. He succeeded even against the tougher competition W. Michigan faced (going for over 150 yards at UVa last year).

He also seems to have a chip on his shoulder after Michigan (the team he had rooted for since he was a kid) revoked his scholarship after he verbally committed there (the revocation coming too late for him to then get a scholarship from the other Big Ten schools that had recruited him).

All that adds up to someone who should have a successful career. :thumbup:

 
so Greg Jennings = Darrell Jackson + Isaac Bruce + Donald Driver
Something like that. ;) In all seriousness, you always have to wonder when a guy comes from a school like Western Michigan if he can make the transition. Hell, it's hard for players coming out of premier colleges.
Really? There are several WRs that have done just fine coming from a smaller college. Donald Driver has done fine with the Packers. Not to mention Jerry Rice and Randy Moss.
You misunderstood me. I didn't say small college WRs couldn't do it. I simply said you always have to wonder if they can make the transition (more so than players who come from big schools, on average).
 
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Jennings is no Issac Bruce...let's quit those comparisons ASAP.
I believe he's quite comparible. Did you think Isaac Bruce was "Isaac Bruce" when he came out? Maybe you did, maybe you didn't (I did like Bruce coming out). Anyway, my point is this...we don't know for sure, but this kid has the potential to be every bit as good as Bruce, IMO. You disagree, which is fine. That said, it seems to me like you're selling Jennings short. This cat can play.

 
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so Greg Jennings = Darrell Jackson + Isaac Bruce + Donald Driver + Randy Moss + Marvin Harrison + Derrick Mason
Editted to add the other comparisons.If this keeps up, Jennings may exceed Reggie Bush as the most overhyped rookie.

That said, I do like this kid.

 
so Greg Jennings = Darrell Jackson + Isaac Bruce + Donald Driver
Something like that. ;) In all seriousness, you always have to wonder when a guy comes from a school like Western Michigan if he can make the transition. Hell, it's hard for players coming out of premier colleges.
Really? There are several WRs that have done just fine coming from a smaller college. Donald Driver has done fine with the Packers. Not to mention Jerry Rice and Randy Moss.
You misunderstood me. I didn't say small college WRs couldn't do it. I simply said you always have to wonder if they can make the transition (more so than players who come from big schools, on the average).
Then you shouldn't be worried about Jennings. He has impressed the Packers from day one of mini-camp in every aspect of the game.
 
The ONLY things I got from the Pack scrimmage is that ... the NFL is HUGE and they should thank their lucky stars for Fantasy Football ... AMEN!

 
cr8f said:
Biggest thing to me is Gado looked average/mediocre at best. Green Bay is in trouble if he is the best they have healthy again.
He's still struggling with the zone scheme and last night wa the first time they actually blocked against real defenders.Herron looked better. Ahman said he hs played in it in HS and at nebraska.Driver and Fevre looked great.Jennings to me looks like a Driver clone.
Guess we were watching a different game. Gado was hitting the holes quick, Heron looked like garbage besides his one nice run with a hole that I could have drove a big rig through. Gados TD was sweet. :thumbup:
 
I watched a replay of this scrimmage this morning around 3am.

Nothing excited me too much, other than I realize that Cheeseheads are NUTS about their packers.

62,000+ for a friggin practice? OMFG.....

Anyway, whoever said Gado didn't look impressive must be an LT and LJ owner.

I thought he had power and speed, and ran some tough yards, especially on the TD run.

I do believe Green will not make it this season and Gado could be a steal in the late rounds.

JMO..... :hey:

 
The ONLY things I got from the Pack scrimmage is that ... the NFL is HUGE and they should thank their lucky stars for Fantasy Football ... AMEN!
While I agree that the NFL is huge and FF as made it that way...that has nothing to do with the Pack selling out their scrimmage. It happened last year too, but there is no way that any other team could do that IMO.
 
The ONLY things I got from the Pack scrimmage is that ... the NFL is HUGE and they should thank their lucky stars for Fantasy Football ... AMEN!
While I agree that the NFL is huge and FF as made it that way...that has nothing to do with the Pack selling out their scrimmage. It happened last year too, but there is no way that any other team could do that IMO.
If you two are attributing fantasy football to the growth of the NFL, I hope you half-heartedly mean it. While fantasy football has allowed the game, from a personal stand point, to grow, I doubt it has caused the exponential growth of the NFL these past 10-15 years.
 
The ONLY things I got from the Pack scrimmage is that ... the NFL is HUGE and they should thank their lucky stars for Fantasy Football ... AMEN!
While I agree that the NFL is huge and FF as made it that way...that has nothing to do with the Pack selling out their scrimmage. It happened last year too, but there is no way that any other team could do that IMO.
If you two are attributing fantasy football to the growth of the NFL, I hope you half-heartedly mean it. While fantasy football has allowed the game, from a personal stand point, to grow, I doubt it has caused the exponential growth of the NFL these past 10-15 years.
I certainly am not saying that FF has made the NFL what it is today. I'm just saying that FF has grabbed a market that previously wasn't there. Casual fans who maybe watched a game or two are now hard core(if they got into FF) and are watching as many games as possible. Before I got into FF, I watched the Packers, maybe part of the late game, MNF...now I have DirecTV...watch as many games as possible, and sometimes even listen to some games on the radio while I'm watching another(Yes, I know I'm sick!) I'm sure the NFL website has grown quite a bit also with FF.
 
cr8f said:
Biggest thing to me is Gado looked average/mediocre at best. Green Bay is in trouble if he is the best they have healthy again.
He's still struggling with the zone scheme and last night wa the first time they actually blocked against real defenders.Herron looked better. Ahman said he hs played in it in HS and at nebraska.Driver and Fevre looked great.Jennings to me looks like a Driver clone.
Guess we were watching a different game. Gado was hitting the holes quick, Heron looked like garbage besides his one nice run with a hole that I could have drove a big rig through. Gados TD was sweet. :thumbup:
Gado's TD run was nice. He showed a good combo of quickness and power there, but I didn't think he looked that quick or powerful on a few of his other carries. Some of his bad runs there was just no hole, so there was little he could have done, but overall I thought he was decent, nothing too exciting though. As the Oline and Gado get a better hang of the system it should get better, but for now I don't see him worthy of all the hype he gets from some. Not yet.Herron impressed me. Maybe it was because I wasn't expecting much from him, but I thought he looked a lot quicker. Him and Gado are two different style backs and together I think they could be OK. I do feel a little better about Green Bay's RB situation now if Green cannot make it back and Davenport doesn't either or gets hurt again.
 
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too early to draw any conclusions from the action on Saturday.

it was a practice. it's a new offense. not everyone is healthy and playing.

way too soon to get wound up about anyone. or get down on anyone.

 

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