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Totally disagree. Palmer sucks. He has sucked for the last 4 years. He has no arm strength.The Bengals sodomized the Raiders in that trade.
Palmer was good before his injury. After his injury, not so much.
he was still pretty good after the knee thing. ppl slammed him bc he elevated the bar so high, but his numbers are fine. schaubesque. after the elbow he has been harrington esque.
Yes, that's what I meant. After the elbow injury. I should have been more clear.
No kidding. Off the couch, almost a year of rust, a week with the team and comes in off the bench down by 21 at halftime. Timing was off. Pick 6 was a very bad decision. He also made throws that I haven't seen from a Raider QB for a long time. His arm strength may not be back to 100%, but it's a hell of a lot better than it was 2 years ago, and even much improved from last year. He stepped into a couple that he zinged right down the middle, squeezed into tight windows and were just impressive passes. His 2nd INT was also a good throw that hit "Smoothe" right in the bread basket and just bounced up, right into the defender's hands.Not saying he is or is not worth the price paid, just saying let's wait and see. Some good today. A little more bad. Bad situation to begin with.
This. First pick was horrible... but the others weren't. He threw a few nice completions into tight windows. Crap oline play, a few drops and some bad routes. D Moore looked horrible. Palmer will be fine in week 9.'Cookiemonster said:No kidding. Off the couch, almost a year of rust, a week with the team and comes in off the bench down by 21 at halftime. Timing was off. Pick 6 was a very bad decision. He also made throws that I haven't seen from a Raider QB for a long time. His arm strength may not be back to 100%, but it's a hell of a lot better than it was 2 years ago, and even much improved from last year. He stepped into a couple that he zinged right down the middle, squeezed into tight windows and were just impressive passes. His 2nd INT was also a good throw that hit "Smoothe" right in the bread basket and just bounced up, right into the defender's hands.Not saying he is or is not worth the price paid, just saying let's wait and see. Some good today. A little more bad. Bad situation to begin with.'BigTex said:
'Cookiemonster said:No kidding. Off the couch, almost a year of rust, a week with the team and comes in off the bench down by 21 at halftime. Timing was off. Pick 6 was a very bad decision. He also made throws that I haven't seen from a Raider QB for a long time. His arm strength may not be back to 100%, but it's a hell of a lot better than it was 2 years ago, and even much improved from last year. He stepped into a couple that he zinged right down the middle, squeezed into tight windows and were just impressive passes. His 2nd INT was also a good throw that hit "Smoothe" right in the bread basket and just bounced up, right into the defender's hands.Not saying he is or is not worth the price paid, just saying let's wait and see. Some good today. A little more bad. Bad situation to begin with.'BigTex said:
This was my take too. I thought Palmer looked decent, all things considered. Dude had THREE practices with his team-mates. Incidentall, he had three practices all year PERIOD!ANyone expecting production from Palmer yesterday is delu.....there's openings in a couple of my leagues! 
OK, I'll bite...what exactly looked decent?'Cookiemonster said:No kidding. Off the couch, almost a year of rust, a week with the team and comes in off the bench down by 21 at halftime. Timing was off. Pick 6 was a very bad decision. He also made throws that I haven't seen from a Raider QB for a long time. His arm strength may not be back to 100%, but it's a hell of a lot better than it was 2 years ago, and even much improved from last year. He stepped into a couple that he zinged right down the middle, squeezed into tight windows and were just impressive passes. His 2nd INT was also a good throw that hit "Smoothe" right in the bread basket and just bounced up, right into the defender's hands.Not saying he is or is not worth the price paid, just saying let's wait and see. Some good today. A little more bad. Bad situation to begin with.'BigTex said:
Yeah, I'd like to know as well. He looked exactly as we should have expected a guy to look when coming off his couch less than a week ago and only practicing 3 times. He looked awful. That isn't to say he won't improve. He most certainly will and will be fine eventually. There is a reason Oak started Boller and waited until he threw 3 picks to even put Palmer in. He wasn't ready to play.OK, I'll bite...what exactly looked decent?'Cookiemonster said:No kidding. Off the couch, almost a year of rust, a week with the team and comes in off the bench down by 21 at halftime. Timing was off. Pick 6 was a very bad decision. He also made throws that I haven't seen from a Raider QB for a long time. His arm strength may not be back to 100%, but it's a hell of a lot better than it was 2 years ago, and even much improved from last year. He stepped into a couple that he zinged right down the middle, squeezed into tight windows and were just impressive passes. His 2nd INT was also a good throw that hit "Smoothe" right in the bread basket and just bounced up, right into the defender's hands.Not saying he is or is not worth the price paid, just saying let's wait and see. Some good today. A little more bad. Bad situation to begin with.'BigTex said:
Especially waiting until after it happens. For all the people that take #### around here for consistently making bad calls, at least they have the guts to try to call it before it happens.And it should be obvious that the Raiders didn't plan on playing Palmer at all yesterday, because he wasn't ready. Boller was sucking it up, they were down 21-0, so the choice was "why the hell not?"
You think they are going to throw an extra $7.5M at this chump?
I'd say a month. Bye + 2 more games before he really has his feet back under him. 3rd start should be close enough to what we can expect for the future.
Even cuter when Raidah fans start engraving rings after starting 2-0 or overpaying for a hasbeen QB.I think it is so cute when Bengals fans thump their chests.
Week 07Kansas City Chiefs
If the Raiders felt the same, that makes the acquisition price even worse.
I think they were hoping to make it to the bye on the legs of DMac against a bad Chiefs team. As it turns out, DMac got hurt early and Boller stunk it up. Down 21-0, they didn't have much to lose by throwing Palmer in there with the slim hopes that he might be able to pull a rabbit out of his hat.
Can I get a quick link to this happening? Oh wait, or were you just talking out of your ###?Even cuter when Raidah fans start engraving rings after starting 2-0 or overpaying for a hasbeen QB.I think it is so cute when Bengals fans thump their chests.
I agree with this post in general. It is most definitely not fiar to expect that in one week Palmer would be able to run the offense effectively. Most QB's get 4 weeks of exhibition and then even appear rusty in week 1.Well guess what, it's not week 1 and palmer had one week to prepare. He probably knows not much more than 10-15% of the playbook. If you have ever played the position, you would understand the difficult situation he had to deal with.I also dont know how smart it would be to expect him to blow the doors off given the last 2 years, but with that being said, he was in a poorly run organization with other players(ocho) who really did not want to be there on his offense, and another guy (TO) who tends to cause unrest in the dressing room.I'm not saying he(Palmer) is blameless, but I would think this may be a better situation overall, and he may surprise. Sometimes a change of Scenery is all a player needs to rejuvinate his career.I expect he will look better coming off the bye week. To what degree, I cannot say... but I'd guess he will know 60-80% of the playbook by that time and will have figured out a few of the audibles he will need to use to do well. I'd bet he will be good for at least 200-220 yards and a TD vs denver. I know that's not awesome, but it's not terrible either.
I'll try not to use metaphors when responding to your posts in the future.Can I get a quick link to this happening? Oh wait, or were you just talking out of your ###?Even cuter when Raidah fans start engraving rings after starting 2-0 or overpaying for a hasbeen QB.I think it is so cute when Bengals fans thump their chests.
Palmer has been a scrub ever since the elbow injury he over throws his receivers by 10 yds and almost always throws a pick six in a crucial game at a crucial timeThis. First pick was horrible... but the others weren't. He threw a few nice completions into tight windows. Crap oline play, a few drops and some bad routes. D Moore looked horrible. Palmer will be fine in week 9.No kidding. Off the couch, almost a year of rust, a week with the team and comes in off the bench down by 21 at halftime. Timing was off. Pick 6 was a very bad decision. He also made throws that I haven't seen from a Raider QB for a long time. His arm strength may not be back to 100%, but it's a hell of a lot better than it was 2 years ago, and even much improved from last year. He stepped into a couple that he zinged right down the middle, squeezed into tight windows and were just impressive passes. His 2nd INT was also a good throw that hit "Smoothe" right in the bread basket and just bounced up, right into the defender's hands.Not saying he is or is not worth the price paid, just saying let's wait and see. Some good today. A little more bad. Bad situation to begin with.
If that shot was aimed at Wadsworth, I think you may have missed your mark. My notebook has Wadsworth as a Jags fan (could be mistaken though).Even cuter when Raidah fans start engraving rings after starting 2-0 or overpaying for a hasbeen QB.I think it is so cute when Bengals fans thump their chests.
Your are not mistaken. It's all Jags, all the time in Casa de WadsworthIf that shot was aimed at Wadsworth, I think you may have missed your mark. My notebook has Wadsworth as a Jags fan (could be mistaken though).Even cuter when Raidah fans start engraving rings after starting 2-0 or overpaying for a hasbeen QB.I think it is so cute when Bengals fans thump their chests.
This is my take here too. I think the Raiders overpaid by a high margin, but this particular game played out exactly as I would have expected it to.Palmer comes in the game with 3 practices all year, down 21-0. He had no choice but to take some risks. And yes, he was rusty.The Bengals raped the Raiders in trade compensation (2012 1st, 2013 2nd) with the possibility of moving up to a 1st in 2013.However, Palmer shouldn't be getting raked over the coals for one bad performance after being out of football for almost a year. In reality, he shouldn't have even been on the field yesterday against KC.
