List some players and your level of concern or panic for them
1 is not panicked at all. 10 is totally panicked.
1 is not panicked at all. 10 is totally panicked.
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Panic Meter - 1 (not panicked) to 10 (totally panicked) (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter Joe Bryant
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I'll start:
Daniel Jones and Saquon Barkley. Both would be a 3.
Dallas defense is GOOD. And the gamscript fell apart for the Giants. Plus the weather.
Daniel Jones and Saquon Barkley. Both would be a 3.
Dallas defense is GOOD. And the gamscript fell apart for the Giants. Plus the weather.
titusbramble
Footballguy
Tee Higgins - π
Zach Charbonnet - 6.9
Zach Charbonnet - 6.9
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Tee Higgins - 0. He still had 8 targets. I’ll take that every week, and doubt it’ll ever be a zero again. Burrow missed the entire preseason & the browns defense is legit.
LJax - 2-3. Get Andrews back & we’ll see how it goes.
Pierce - I’m a 7. He played less than 50% of the snaps, and wasn’t particularly efficient.
Dionte Johnson - 8. The hammy strain is just more reason for concern.
LJax - 2-3. Get Andrews back & we’ll see how it goes.
Pierce - I’m a 7. He played less than 50% of the snaps, and wasn’t particularly efficient.
Dionte Johnson - 8. The hammy strain is just more reason for concern.
Not sure about Herbert panic. R. Johnson's touches were mostly in garbage time.
Najee I agree with. There had been rumblings all summer on Warren having a role and the door seems open for him to grab a larger piece of the pie.
I think Fields will get his points, but maybe not ascend to the top tier with Mahomes, Allen, Hurts.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
The Washington Commanders offense
5-6...depends on what piece of it you have but Jahan Dotson was unable to break loose vs the Cards, looked like a pretty slow moving offense.
5-6...depends on what piece of it you have but Jahan Dotson was unable to break loose vs the Cards, looked like a pretty slow moving offense.
TLEF316
Footballguy
In terms of the guys on my teams that stunk
Burrow and Higgins- 2. They'll almost certainly figure it out. Combo of rust and bad weather yesterday.
Akers- Have him on BOTH my teams (RB 2 on one and RB 4 on another) and I'm pretty concerned. He obviously got carries but he looked awful and was clearly the 2nd option. panic level 8
Herbert- 5 I'm a huge believer in his running ability but they seem intent on not making him the top option. And fields/the o-line looked really poor yesterday
Kirk- 7 snap count was low and Ridley was clearly the top option. I was expecting that would be the case, but I still thought he'd be viable.
Just one week, but lots of red flags on my rosters. Thank goodness for Tua.
Burrow and Higgins- 2. They'll almost certainly figure it out. Combo of rust and bad weather yesterday.
Akers- Have him on BOTH my teams (RB 2 on one and RB 4 on another) and I'm pretty concerned. He obviously got carries but he looked awful and was clearly the 2nd option. panic level 8
Herbert- 5 I'm a huge believer in his running ability but they seem intent on not making him the top option. And fields/the o-line looked really poor yesterday
Kirk- 7 snap count was low and Ridley was clearly the top option. I was expecting that would be the case, but I still thought he'd be viable.
Just one week, but lots of red flags on my rosters. Thank goodness for Tua.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
I constantly remind myself that the NFL is selling us the last week of the pre-season and branding it Week 1. Outside of injuries, I try very hard to ignore week 1 results.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Herbert-5. I think he leads the team in carries, but it appears all 3 will eat something. I own no shares but tempted to see how cheap I can get him.
Swift-7. Seems like we spend a lot of time trying to figure out Eagles RBs. I really thought his talent would take over. Maybe it still will. I own no shares, but If if I did I'd be kinda concerned. I will say his ADP was factored into this as a possibility so the investment isn't horrible.
Akers-7. What a journey Akers has had. Such a roller coaster. He's good. He's bad. He's in the doghouse. He isn't. Hard to know. His range of outcomes is so big that makes me skeptical on a positive outcome.
Rachaad White-9. To be honest I was never a fan. He seemed okay I guess. Then his ADP grew so high it got silly. I know these boards like Tucker, but it's just too early for me to tell. I think of o had choose even after week 1 i guess I'd prefer Tucker.
Mattison-5. I just don't think he is good at rushing the football. Hso receiving chops help. The best thing he has going for him is the garbage behind him. I would have rate him a 9 if it wasn't for that.
Higgins -1. Dude is a monster. Zero concern other then he changes his number too much.
London-9. Has nothing to do with his ability. I just don't think Ridder can carry ANY wr to fantasy success.
Pierce-7. Ravens defense is tough. I get that. A big concern was Singletary getting so much of the work load. I thought Pierce was locked in as a ball hog. Add in that offense is gonna be bad.
Lamar Jackson-1. Just stop
Seahawks offfense-1. Way to many elite players to struggle each week.
All my opinion and I reserve the right to change my opinion at any time.
Swift-7. Seems like we spend a lot of time trying to figure out Eagles RBs. I really thought his talent would take over. Maybe it still will. I own no shares, but If if I did I'd be kinda concerned. I will say his ADP was factored into this as a possibility so the investment isn't horrible.
Akers-7. What a journey Akers has had. Such a roller coaster. He's good. He's bad. He's in the doghouse. He isn't. Hard to know. His range of outcomes is so big that makes me skeptical on a positive outcome.
Rachaad White-9. To be honest I was never a fan. He seemed okay I guess. Then his ADP grew so high it got silly. I know these boards like Tucker, but it's just too early for me to tell. I think of o had choose even after week 1 i guess I'd prefer Tucker.
Mattison-5. I just don't think he is good at rushing the football. Hso receiving chops help. The best thing he has going for him is the garbage behind him. I would have rate him a 9 if it wasn't for that.
Higgins -1. Dude is a monster. Zero concern other then he changes his number too much.
London-9. Has nothing to do with his ability. I just don't think Ridder can carry ANY wr to fantasy success.
Pierce-7. Ravens defense is tough. I get that. A big concern was Singletary getting so much of the work load. I thought Pierce was locked in as a ball hog. Add in that offense is gonna be bad.
Lamar Jackson-1. Just stop
Seahawks offfense-1. Way to many elite players to struggle each week.
All my opinion and I reserve the right to change my opinion at any time.
The Frankman
Footballguy
2 - It's the first week of the season, and panic is the result of people who don't know why their players aren't doing well/don't know how to fix it.
Jahan Dotson only got 4 points - It was a rainy day and Howell was clearly bothered by the Arizona pass rush. He'll have better days
Dameon Pierce only got me 4.7 points - again, brutal matchup vs. Baltimore and a rookie QB. As long as the line holds better days are ahead, especially if he gets more passing game work.
Chigoziem Okonwo got me a zero - He played 52/63 snaps (85%!) and 75% of the snaps in 11 personnel. Saints are a brutal matchup for TEs so he'll be fine.
Skyy Moore got a 0.40 and low overall snap share (only 69%) - I covered it in the Skyy Moore thread, but it should increase over time plus Kelce being out was a big factor.
Sometimes you just gotta take a L and move on. That's what I'm doing
Jahan Dotson only got 4 points - It was a rainy day and Howell was clearly bothered by the Arizona pass rush. He'll have better days
Dameon Pierce only got me 4.7 points - again, brutal matchup vs. Baltimore and a rookie QB. As long as the line holds better days are ahead, especially if he gets more passing game work.
Chigoziem Okonwo got me a zero - He played 52/63 snaps (85%!) and 75% of the snaps in 11 personnel. Saints are a brutal matchup for TEs so he'll be fine.
Skyy Moore got a 0.40 and low overall snap share (only 69%) - I covered it in the Skyy Moore thread, but it should increase over time plus Kelce being out was a big factor.
Sometimes you just gotta take a L and move on. That's what I'm doing
FarFromHome
Footballguy
You mean stay the course? Ha ha. Fun thread nonetheless.2 - It's the first week of the season, and panic is the result of people who don't know why their players aren't doing well/don't know how to fix it.
Jahan Dotson only got 4 points - It was a rainy day and Howell was clearly bothered by the Arizona pass rush. He'll have better days
Chigoziem Okonwo got me a zero - He played 52/63 snaps (85%!) and 75% of the snaps in 11 personnel. Saints are a brutal matchup for TEs so he'll be fine.
Skyy Moore got a 0.40 and low overall snap share (only 69%) - I covered it in the Skyy Moore thread, but it should increase over time plus Kelce being out was a big factor.
Sometimes you just gotta take a L and move on. That's what I'm doing
Golden Gopher
Footballguy
Cousins threw for almost 300 yards in the first half, and they had 10 points to show for it. At one point, MIN had > 300 yards in total offense, and TB had something like 35. And it was 10-3 Vikings. They simply can not put away teams that they should beat by multiple scores. Call it playing to the level of the competition or whatever you want, it's aggravating.
Yesterday's debacle came down to one thing. Pressure on Cousins. Tampa did a good job of making him uncomfortable. At times, he was able to get rid of the ball and make plays. At one point, I believe he completed about 11 or 12 passes in a row. But, the Bucs defense got to him when it mattered. Forced two fumbles, a handful of sacks, and a big INT at the goalline.
Minnesota needs to sign some interior O-Line help immediately. I'm almost afraid to watch what's going to happen on Thursday against the Eagles. They may just want to sit Cousins and save him for Week 3.
rockaction
Footballguy
Cam Akers - 8
That was discouraging seeing Kyren Williams get all those touches.
Tee Higgins - 5
I think Chase is such a factor. Higgins and Burrow were not even communicating well it seems. Don't forget, this guy didn't exactly have a monster year last year.
DK Metcalf - 5
Geno came back to earth and JSN looks to eat targets. I had to squint to see he was on the field in the second half
Khalil Herbert - 5
Those were garbage time touches, but like said upthread, the coaches seem to want to anoint "their guy" in Johnson. Also, Foreman looked darn good with his touches that game. I just am reading the coachspeak all summer and they seem to want Roschon to take over. Problem is, Roschon might be a bit of a plodder. So, a moderate worry for Herbert.
Kayshon Boutte - 5
Use was encouraging, but for a guy that got the start, he had two catches out of bounds that Romo was criticizing as catches a receiver should have in bounds. Belchick won't abide that unless he's clearly one of their better options (which he might be).
That was discouraging seeing Kyren Williams get all those touches.
Tee Higgins - 5
I think Chase is such a factor. Higgins and Burrow were not even communicating well it seems. Don't forget, this guy didn't exactly have a monster year last year.
DK Metcalf - 5
Geno came back to earth and JSN looks to eat targets. I had to squint to see he was on the field in the second half
Khalil Herbert - 5
Those were garbage time touches, but like said upthread, the coaches seem to want to anoint "their guy" in Johnson. Also, Foreman looked darn good with his touches that game. I just am reading the coachspeak all summer and they seem to want Roschon to take over. Problem is, Roschon might be a bit of a plodder. So, a moderate worry for Herbert.
Kayshon Boutte - 5
Use was encouraging, but for a guy that got the start, he had two catches out of bounds that Romo was criticizing as catches a receiver should have in bounds. Belchick won't abide that unless he's clearly one of their better options (which he might be).
LawFitz
Footballguy
Kenny Pickett and by extension all Steelers - 7.5
It was against the Niners, who overwhelmed them from go, otherwise this would be a 9.5. He looked mediocre at best yesterday.
Eagles RBs - 10. Self-explanatory. Can't trust 'em.
Seahawks Offense: 8. OL lost two starting OTs, did they? Geno going back into pumpkin mode would derail so much potential here.
It was against the Niners, who overwhelmed them from go, otherwise this would be a 9.5. He looked mediocre at best yesterday.
Eagles RBs - 10. Self-explanatory. Can't trust 'em.
Seahawks Offense: 8. OL lost two starting OTs, did they? Geno going back into pumpkin mode would derail so much potential here.
Golden Gopher
Footballguy
Long-term, I'm not too worried about Burrow and Higgins. Short-term, though, I'm at like a 6-7. As in they had better get it together ASAP because my lineup can't take another 2.5 pts combined from the two of them. 
One guy I'm relatively worried about long-term is Christian Kirk. I was prepared for Ridley to possibly move ahead of him on the target share totem pole. I did not, however, expect Kirk to be out-targeted by Zay Jones 7-3. Not good for the leagues where I grabbed Kirk as my WR2.
One guy I'm relatively worried about long-term is Christian Kirk. I was prepared for Ridley to possibly move ahead of him on the target share totem pole. I did not, however, expect Kirk to be out-targeted by Zay Jones 7-3. Not good for the leagues where I grabbed Kirk as my WR2.
Dameon Pierce=3, it was always a bad matchup, and Singletary's work was in garbage time. If he lays an egg against Indy, I'll start to be concerned.
Justin Fields=5, I think there is a strong disconnect between the OC and the talent on the team. Still should be solid for fantasy though, just maybe not the ceiling people were hoping for.
Diontae Johnson=3 if the hammy is ok, 6 if its gonna be a few weeks. Its clear Pickens isn't a threat to be the #1 to me.
Bengals offense=1, no concerns. Bad weather, Burrow just getting back, and they always suck in week 1, remember Burrow's 5 turnovers against Pitt last year?
Deebo Samuel/George Kittle=1, no concerns. Steelers play man coverage, that's Aiyuk/CMC spike weeks, against zone teams, its Deebo/Kittle.
Christian Kirk=7, he's clearly well behind Ridley (as expected) but could also be behind or at least equal to Zay. Might only be room for Ridley to be a reliable fantasy starter.
Giants offense=4, yes the matchup sucked, but so did the gameplan. Feels possible the league may have caught on to Daboll's smoke and mirrors with Jones. If they don't bounce back big against Arizona, this will jump up.
Seahawks offense=5, losing both OTs hurt, but Geno sure looked a lot like non-2022 Geno.
Najee Harris=8, he's simply not the better RB, people drafting him in round 3/4 were nuts.
DJ Moore=8, again, people drafting him in round 3/4 were nuts. He's a WR3, who will be very boom/bust.
Justin Fields=5, I think there is a strong disconnect between the OC and the talent on the team. Still should be solid for fantasy though, just maybe not the ceiling people were hoping for.
Diontae Johnson=3 if the hammy is ok, 6 if its gonna be a few weeks. Its clear Pickens isn't a threat to be the #1 to me.
Bengals offense=1, no concerns. Bad weather, Burrow just getting back, and they always suck in week 1, remember Burrow's 5 turnovers against Pitt last year?
Deebo Samuel/George Kittle=1, no concerns. Steelers play man coverage, that's Aiyuk/CMC spike weeks, against zone teams, its Deebo/Kittle.
Christian Kirk=7, he's clearly well behind Ridley (as expected) but could also be behind or at least equal to Zay. Might only be room for Ridley to be a reliable fantasy starter.
Giants offense=4, yes the matchup sucked, but so did the gameplan. Feels possible the league may have caught on to Daboll's smoke and mirrors with Jones. If they don't bounce back big against Arizona, this will jump up.
Seahawks offense=5, losing both OTs hurt, but Geno sure looked a lot like non-2022 Geno.
Najee Harris=8, he's simply not the better RB, people drafting him in round 3/4 were nuts.
DJ Moore=8, again, people drafting him in round 3/4 were nuts. He's a WR3, who will be very boom/bust.
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SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
The Philly game ended up being a "that which doesn't kill me makes me stronger" game for Pats fans.
New England Fans panic levels after 1 quarter: 8/10 (tipped pass in the rain and zeke elliott fumble -> 16-0)
New England Fans panic levels after 4 quarters: 1/10.
New England Haters panic levels before Boutte's second foot was confirmed out of bounds: 11/10 (this CAN'T be happening!!!).
New England Haters panic levels after Boutte's second foot was confirmed out of bounds: 4/10 (crap...NE's offense is not going to be a joke this year)
Combined Score, Q2-Q4: NE 20 PHI 9
For the game....(2 of 5 starting o linemen and starting WR2 Parker did not play)....
Yards Gained: NE 382 PHI 251
Pass 1st downs: NE 18 PHI 6
Hurts stat line: 22 / 33 / 170 / 1 / 0, 9 / 37 / 0.
Mac Jones' stats vs PHI one year after Matt Patricia / Mike Judge experiment: 35 / 54 / 316 / 3 / 1.
"You tell 'em I'm coming; and I'm bringing hell with me." - Wyatt Erp, Tombstone.
Look at the bright side....somebody has to punk Dallas in the superbowl.
New England Fans panic levels after 1 quarter: 8/10 (tipped pass in the rain and zeke elliott fumble -> 16-0)
New England Fans panic levels after 4 quarters: 1/10.
New England Haters panic levels before Boutte's second foot was confirmed out of bounds: 11/10 (this CAN'T be happening!!!).
New England Haters panic levels after Boutte's second foot was confirmed out of bounds: 4/10 (crap...NE's offense is not going to be a joke this year)
Combined Score, Q2-Q4: NE 20 PHI 9
For the game....(2 of 5 starting o linemen and starting WR2 Parker did not play)....
Yards Gained: NE 382 PHI 251
Pass 1st downs: NE 18 PHI 6
Hurts stat line: 22 / 33 / 170 / 1 / 0, 9 / 37 / 0.
Mac Jones' stats vs PHI one year after Matt Patricia / Mike Judge experiment: 35 / 54 / 316 / 3 / 1.
"You tell 'em I'm coming; and I'm bringing hell with me." - Wyatt Erp, Tombstone.
Look at the bright side....somebody has to punk Dallas in the superbowl.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I don’t buy this narrative at all. I’ve seen it often but the fact remains that week 1 counts.
It is very real that some teams are 0-1, and in a sport with just 17 games, teams cannot afford to give away ~6% of their season.
Quite a few teams were missing key cogs on offense (Kelce, Jeudy, Andrews, some OL issues, etc) and others had key players who didn’t play at all in the preseason (Burrow). Some are implementing offensive schemes as well.
So while week 1 might feel like a preseason game, any team treating it as such is tantamount to coaching malpractice.
shadrap
Footballguy
This is just so correct on every level.
Largent
Footballguy
Skyy - 4: nuts, but first game and barely looked at is concerning
Swift - 3: no Stichen a bigger problem for Philly then expected but dont think Gainwell is the bell cow. Swift needs to get the ball in his hands and they will see what the diff is.
Lamar - 1 : first game in a long time, new OC, no Andrews
Waddle - 3 : 45 pass attempts with 5 targets...wtf
Swift - 3: no Stichen a bigger problem for Philly then expected but dont think Gainwell is the bell cow. Swift needs to get the ball in his hands and they will see what the diff is.
Lamar - 1 : first game in a long time, new OC, no Andrews
Waddle - 3 : 45 pass attempts with 5 targets...wtf
Jacob's Ladder
Footballguy
Charbonnet 10
Swift 10
London 9
Burrow 0
Chase 0
Swift 10
London 9
Burrow 0
Chase 0
shadrap
Footballguy
Coaches are so afraid of injuries anymore that pre-season is more like a scrimmage & studs maybe play 1/2 of a football gsme in the entire pre-season. game one is a gutter fest full of offsides and a bunch of other mental mistakes. QB play yesterday was an abomination except for a few standouts. just garbage football to start the year. yes, it's week one & does COUNT, but with the expanded schedule I don't think the coaches place much importance on it like years past. IMHO
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Yeah, imma give Akers a 10
Just so many 0 or 1 yard runs. Or negative runs when trying to salt the game away.
McVay is gonna hate watching that film.
So many red flags. Miracle he even scored.
I don't think his hammy is ok but if it was why have any concern? He looked like the best player on the offense before he got hurt, the major bright spot.
shadrap
Footballguy
the score was a gift from the coach. this baffles me. Akers finishes the season as a top back. all indications he is good to go & after two carries the coach yanks him. I don't understand at all. no warning in pre-season. nothing.
Seeing how Richardson was playing relative to how Hurts looked it was hard to not have this thought yesterday.
shadrap
Footballguy
saw the play. he reached for his hammy immediately & was in a lot of pain.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Disagree. Cost/Benefit for opting to feel things out in week one far outweighs hitting all cylinders out of the gate. Adding an extra week to the regular season incentivized this result.
EDIT: as did adding two more playoff slots.
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pollardsvision
Footballguy
Call me crazy, but I think they'll be fine.I know you asked about players, but my panic for the Steelers is 100
Some games the matchup and game script just makes it look far worse than it is. Opponent gets on a roll and you just go on tilt.
See: The Bengals this year and last year.
Remember that? Steelers absolutely dominated the defending AFC Champs. Not as bad as the Browns dominated them this year. But it worked out and will for the Bengals.
2nd year QB ran into an historically great defense, and things went to hell.
Here's how the NFL works. Steelers will destroy the Browns next week. Bengals will destroy the Ravens. You know this.
I hear you. Talk more about Harris. What do you think there?
Pigskin Fanatic
Footballguy
I see Kirk mentioned a few times and I agree with the panic, gotta be 7-8 right now. I had posted somwhere that I thought he could see WR1 targets and I think that's still a remote possibility, but all else equal it'll be Ridley WR1 target share and then a spread between he, Jones and Engram based on matchups throughout the year. So, without injuries, not sure any of these receivers other than Ridley will be startable.
Please let's not do those types of trolling posts here. Thanks.
There are a lot of smart people here and this can be a good thread.
zoonation
Footballguy
And KW got all of the meaningful snaps and touches.
That's a fun point.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
I don't think we can read much into what happened with him yesterday. The weather was terrible, the NE defense played very well and the Eagles struggled to move the ball except on the first two drives, one of which was very short due to Elliott's fumble. Several times Goedert was open and Hurts didn't see him or had already made up his mind to go elsewhere. And Sirianni said after the game that he wants to get Goedert (and Swift) more involved.
Brown always gets his, but sometimes one of Smith or Goedert doesn't. That's what happened yesterday.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Counterpoint: being 1-0 is like playing with house money since there’s an extra game. Drop a game down the stretch? S’ok, you got week 1 in your back pocket.
No one wants to be 0-1. Especially in division games. Look at Cinci. Lost to the Browns, makes week 2 a must-win since they’re playing another division rival.
There’s no cost/benefit analysis that would convince me that starting 0-1 inside the division to start the season is a net positive.
zoonation
Footballguy
I'm all in on KW for waivers this week. I saw what I saw.
They also lost their center (Bradbury) to an injury early. That may have led to some of the pressure issues and lack of running the ball. The three turnovers really was the difference. Take those away and they likely win fairly easily. One fluke turnover (lineman knocked it out of Cousins hands when he was pulling for a run) and one pick that could have been a TD if Osborne played it better or the throw was slightly better. I am not panicked about the offense. The bigger deal is the defense not able to get a stop when needed on Baker and the poor TB offense.Cousins threw for almost 300 yards in the first half, and they had 10 points to show for it. At one point, MIN had > 300 yards in total offense, and TB had something like 35. And it was 10-3 Vikings. They simply can not put away teams that they should beat by multiple scores. Call it playing to the level of the competition or whatever you want, it's aggravating.
Yesterday's debacle came down to one thing. Pressure on Cousins. Tampa did a good job of making him uncomfortable. At times, he was able to get rid of the ball and make plays. At one point, I believe he completed about 11 or 12 passes in a row. But, the Bucs defense got to him when it mattered. Forced two fumbles, a handful of sacks, and a big INT at the goalline.
Minnesota needs to sign some interior O-Line help immediately. I'm almost afraid to watch what's going to happen on Thursday against the Eagles. They may just want to sit Cousins and save him for Week 3.
For sure it counts. I'm just saying it's tough to predict.
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