mitchh1124
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/virginia-community-teacher-fired-lesson-islam-article-1.2468683
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Parents want a teacher fired over homework assignment (1 Viewer)
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IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
I can't believe a second school district thought this was a good idea after seeing how this turned out for the first one.
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
Alhonda Akbar
mitchh1124
Footballguy
am i missing why a world religion class is getting punished over learning about religions of the world?
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Where would we be without your uncanny ability to break news from 96 hours ago, Mitch?
mitchh1124
Footballguy
trying to start up a conversation..
didnt know it had to be on topic #### bro.
there is a hitler thread for christ sakes.
how long ago was that news, limp?
didnt know it had to be on topic #### bro.
there is a hitler thread for christ sakes.
how long ago was that news, limp?
Because a teacher is requesting students to copy a declaratory statement which is blasphemy to their beliefs. It is really not hard to understand why people are pissed over this. It is a dumb assignment.
mitchh1124
Footballguy
if that bothers your belief, you must not believe very strongly.
In elementary school, we sang songs for jewish holidays.
It didn't bother christians
nor did the christian songs bother the jewish people in the crowd.
In elementary school, we sang songs for jewish holidays.
It didn't bother christians
nor did the christian songs bother the jewish people in the crowd.
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mitchh1124
Footballguy
We are singing songs about religions we don't believe in..? Write the statement that they had to write....
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Speaking of Hitler, jon seems to feel the need to battle this on two fronts
Not even remotely close to similar. But you know that. It is a pointless discussion
Binky The Doormat
Footballguy
Just another psycho trouble maker posting weirdo ####.
Muslims Successful in BANNING CHRISTMAS in Maryland Schools, Because it Is Offensive
Read more: http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/muslims-successful-in-banning-christmas-in-maryland-schools-because-offensive/#ixzz3v1AREI24
Read more: http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/muslims-successful-in-banning-christmas-in-maryland-schools-because-offensive/#ixzz3v1AREI24
timschochet
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But local Muslim families in Montgomery County, Maryland weren’t happy with that. They wanted the end of Ramadan (the Eid) added to the list of religious holidays, just like Christmas or Rosh Hashanah. But instead of adjusting the calendar, the school board caved to pressure and made their holiday schedule “religion neutral.”
So in other words, the school board, rather than have to add a Muslim holiday, decided to remove all holidays.
Zow
Footballguy
Yeah that's not what happened homie.
timschochet
Footballguy
How exactly would you have worded it? What message were you trying to impart by posting that story?
Officer Pete Malloy
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I find it wrong that one school determines they can't refer to Christian holidays and here a teacher asks students to write a phrase that denouncies their religious beliefs in favor of another one. Things are out of whack. One thing for certain is this assignment was wrong. At least the school said they would fix it in the future, but that statement is not enough to quiet the masses.
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Tom Skerritt
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It is good to learn about other cultures. Playing with their toys is a positive experience. Writing a phrase which is accepting their religion and conversely is denouncing your own is just wrong on every level. It belittles both Muslims and Christians. Of course you are smart enough to understand this, but you feign ignorance to be a jackass. It seems to be a recurring theme.
3C's
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This is just a case of a loony squeaky wheel and the story got traction on conservative radio. Many in the community and surrounding areas support the teacher. Last paragraph in this article should be what's important. http://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2015/12/19/an-arabic-lesson-in-virginia-school_ap.html
fatness
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He's having a stern talk with his post-writer now. Very stern.
She probably is a good teacher, but that doesn't change that she made a mistake here. She shouldn't lose her job, but the correct move is to admit the mistake and move on. Ignoring it or passing it off as over-reaction by the right will get her fired. She stepped on a land mine and needs to recognize that. She has already waited to long and the backlash is going to build if she fights it.
I linked to an article using its title on my iPhone. If I was on a computer I would have editedHe's having a stern talk with his post-writer now. Very stern.
Ditkaless Wonders
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Language has meaning. Did the students write that they are denouncing their beliefs? Did they write that they personally believe that there is only one true god, Allah, and that Mohammed is his only messenger, and were they asked to do so sentiently after disclosure and consideration, or did they copy down what Muslims believe when they declare their faith?
3C's
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Yeah no. She is a good teacher according to her students and admin. She won't lose her job. Even if it was a mistake she shouldn't have to apologize because a handful of irrational people are up in arms about it. This will die down. Certainly the squeaky wheels should practice a little forgiveness which is the tenet of their faith. It's obvious that loon Herndon won't though. http://www.newsleader.com/story/news/local/2015/12/17/riverheads-high-school-follow-up/77483594/
3C's
Footballguy
It was an assignment from a teacher workbook. The assignment was on world religions. It was a religious symbol. Guess you didn't bother to read the info in the link:
LaPorte's lesson was part of a survey of different religions. When students study a different part of the world, they also learn about that region's culture, religion and political systems. Students had studied Christianity and Judaism then had moved on to Islam. They will also learn about Hinduism and Buddhism. Comparative religions is part of every world geography students' required standards for Standards of Learning tests.
They were asked to copy down a phrase and not even told what the phrase says. In that context, it has the appearance of a spiteful act against Christian students. It is kind of like an English teacher having spanishing speaking student repeat the phrase, "I am a illegal alien who should be deported". Oh sure it is educational and something maybe Donald Trump would say, but it is highly offensive having them repeat it. Maybe a funny gag in a movie, but in real life very offensive and not appropriate for public school.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
No one is questions the goals and benefits of learning about other religion. But it really blows my mind you do not comprehend how offensive this is. You must not really understand or respect people with religious beliefs
LaPorte's lesson was part of a survey of different religions. When students study a different part of the world, they also learn about that region's culture, religion and political systems. Students had studied Christianity and Judaism then had moved on to Islam. They will also learn about Hinduism and Buddhism. Comparative religions is part of every world geography students' required standards for Standards of Learning tests.
mitchh1124
Footballguy
Oh god I wrote the phrase...*waits* nope not Muslim.
The phrase one God named allah..you know Arabic bibles use the word Allah too. It's basically saying there is monotheism Allah is the same God Christians praise. Spartans had multiple gods. That phrase says the latter is false.
The phrase one God named allah..you know Arabic bibles use the word Allah too. It's basically saying there is monotheism Allah is the same God Christians praise. Spartans had multiple gods. That phrase says the latter is false.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
This is a Shark Pool moment. Take a moment to remind the OP there's already a threa about this?
timschochet
Footballguy
With regard to the story you posted, the school didn't determine they couldn't refer to Christian holidays, they chose to do so rather than have to refer to a Muslim holiday as well. Thr school board IMO is acting out of ignorance, fear, and bigotry, and you are behaving as if they are victims.
mitchh1124
Footballguy
If I'm anything..I am like the people from the 1700s and 1800s
Thomas Jefferson
George Washington
Edison
Ben Franklin
But probably not that either
I tend not to believe fairy tales
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
I'm tired of all this political correctness these days. Crybabies like you are what's wrong with this country IMO.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
3C's
Footballguy
It's not any more "offensive" than if I and my kids were atheists and they were asked in a class about world religions to draw a crucifix. It's a class on religious studies. The adult thing to do would be to sit with your kids and talk about what they learned, share you beliefs and allow them to grow from it. Instead, this loon went down the "indoctrination" route, you won't be sharing world views with my kids, "not in my town".No one is questions the goals and benefits of learning about other religion. But it really blows my mind you do not comprehend how offensive this is. You must not really understand or respect people with religious beliefs
LaPorte's lesson was part of a survey of different religions. When students study a different part of the world, they also learn about that region's culture, religion and political systems. Students had studied Christianity and Judaism then had moved on to Islam. They will also learn about Hinduism and Buddhism. Comparative religions is part of every world geography students' required standards for Standards of Learning tests.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
If Mitch is like Jefferson, Washington, Edison and Franklin, I'm thinking that tim has a glaring omission on his top 100 Americans list
avoiding injuries
Footballguy
I see everyone is participating in opposite day again today.
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
Just wait until the parents find out what style of numbers the teacher has been making the students use all year.
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