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Report: Law talking to Patriots | Subscribe

CB Ty Law, who visited the Seahawks last week, might be trying to accelerate the process of finding a new team, or returning to his original one. His agent, Carl, Poston, told the Boston Globe that he was expecting to receive an offer from the Seahawks, and that he would run any offers past the Patriots. Seahawks president Tim Ruskell does not have a long track record on such matters, but I'd be a little surprised if Seattle made a substantial offer to a player who apparently planned to use any offers as leverage.

From the Globe: "Ty Law has been having discussions directly with coach Bill Belichick on a possible return to the Patriots, according to Law's agent, Carl Poston, but the Patriots have not yet talked money. 'The talks have been on the level of Ty and Bill and nothing else,' Poston said. 'It's been more of a feeling-out process. As I receive some offers on Ty, I'll present them to the Patriots and see what they think and what they can do.' Poston said he was expecting an offer for Law from the Seattle Seahawks last night and that Law is also waiting to hear from the Tennessee Titans on a possible visit."

The Titans' interest, or lack thereof, remains difficult to quantify.
Question for Pats fans:Here is an article by a Seahawks insider that I found interesting. My question is if Law is in fact trying to leverage more money out of the Patriots, wouldn't that put him at a disadvantage? I think New England is all business with its players and might not appreciate such a ploy. The Seahawks, Titans, and whomever else might not appreciate this either. I never thought he would end up in Seattle but I think he had some leverage with them. Now I think the Pats will get him at a reduced price all thanks to some bad tactics by Law and his agent. Would you agree or disagree based on the Pats recent history and knowing Law better than the rest of us? Thanks.
The Patriots know Ty Law better than anyone, and they know that Ty Law is the ultimate mercenary - he wants the most money he can get, but once he gets it, you're getting a guy who's going all out, all the time. But you're also getting a guy who, at this point in his career, is injury-prone, he's lost a step, and the crackdown on contact in the secondary does not favor his game at all.

Law will be back in New England if, and only if, the price is right - which it most likely will not be. The Patriots planned to go on without him a couple of years ago, and they certainly are not building the secondary around him now. If he signs here, it will strictly be a bonus to the personnel that has already been assembled in the secondary.
Good post. Sums up the situation. I think Law would be an excellent addition for the Pats. He knows their system and would be an excellent compliment to the youngsters (Hobbs, Gay and Samuel). Add in Warfield and that's a very deep, physical and solid CB position. Yet, when it comes to Ty it most likely will come down to the cash. That's always been his main priority and he doesn't make any bones about it (nor do his agents...the dreaded Poston boys). He knows it's a business with a short shelf life and he's looking to maximize his earnings (which he has every right to do). Hopefully something can get done here but if history is any indicator I'm skeptical that the Pats will be the highest bidder for his services. He's on the backend of a great career and the Pats aren't the type of team to pay for past production.
 
I think the 3 main issues with Law are:

- The size of the bonus he wants (he's been talking $10 million)

- How healthy he truly is vs where he was

- When and if he moves to safety

 
Great discussion about Ty....I will be surprised if he is a Patriot. Like many said Ty is a good CB but is about the money. The Pats did not pony up before, and you will not see them do it a few years later. It is Ty's price tag why he probably has not been signed and this injury. I think it is in that order. When you read about Ty and negotiations, you have not read a lot about the concern for the injury as much as the concern about a Teams wallet.

I think you have to wait and see who the Patriots draft before Ty is considered into the Patriots formula again.

 
Patriots | More details on Seymour's deal

Thu, 13 Apr 2006 21:48:06 -0700

ESPN.com's John Clayton reports New England Patriots DE Richard Seymour will make $28 million over three years and $24 million of it is guaranteed. The strange part of his deal is that only $6 million is being paid this year. There is an $18.6 million option bonus in 2007.

 
Patriots | Team to visit with Avant

Thu, 13 Apr 2006 21:47:41 -0700

Albert Breer, of the MetroWest Daily News, reports the New England Patriots will send offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels and wide receivers coach Brian Daboll to the University of Michigan next week to visit with Michigan WR Jason Avant. The team already interviewed Avant at both the Senior Bowl and the NFL Combine. "They're very interested from the combine and Senior Bowl and that's why they're going back to visit him again," said agent Jason Hendrickson. "He fits their system perfectly, and I think they're going to be looking hard at him on the first day. He definitely fits a need they have."

More info on Avant:

Jason Avant

Height: 6-0 1/2 | Weight: 209 | 40-Time: 4.62

Strengths:

Is a very good athlete...Has good size...Is a threat in the red zone due to his size, hands and ability to go up and get the ball...Very polished with good hands...Smart, tough player with good character and top intangibles...Productive and did a very nice job of stepping up to replace Braylon Edwards as a senior.

Weaknesses:

Does not have elite speed or quickness...May have trouble gaining separation from cornerbacks at the next level...Is not much of a deep threat...Doesn't provide much in terms of running after the catch...Has been known to drop some catchable balls due to lack of concentration...May not have a whole lot of upside.

Notes:

Probably not a true #1 wide receiver in the pros but he could be a solid #2 or possession guy...What you see is what you get with him and while he may never be a star he is a very solid player who could play in the league for a long time.

 
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Patriots | More details on Seymour's deal

Thu, 13 Apr 2006 21:48:06 -0700

ESPN.com's John Clayton reports New England Patriots DE Richard Seymour will make $28 million over three years and $24 million of it is guaranteed. The strange part of his deal is that only $6 million is being paid this year. There is an $18.6 million option bonus in 2007.
That worries me now. Those type of monster years "never" get paid.
 
Patriots | Team to visit with Avant

Thu, 13 Apr 2006 21:47:41 -0700

Albert Breer, of the MetroWest Daily News, reports the New England Patriots will send offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels and wide receivers coach Brian Daboll to the University of Michigan next week to visit with Michigan WR Jason Avant. The team already interviewed Avant at both the Senior Bowl and the NFL Combine. "They're very interested from the combine and Senior Bowl and that's why they're going back to visit him again," said agent Jason Hendrickson. "He fits their system perfectly, and I think they're going to be looking hard at him on the first day. He definitely fits a need they have."
I've seen a few times where he's compared to Givens. Also, his stock appears to be dropping which could mean the Pats can get him a little later than it may have appeared a few months ago. The Pats need a WR and the two names I've seen linked to them most often are Avant and Stovall...which probably means they'll go elsewhere.
 
Patriots | Team to visit with Avant

Thu, 13 Apr 2006 21:47:41 -0700

Albert Breer, of the MetroWest Daily News, reports the New England Patriots will send offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels and wide receivers coach Brian Daboll to the University of Michigan next week to visit with Michigan WR Jason Avant. The team already interviewed Avant at both the Senior Bowl and the NFL Combine. "They're very interested from the combine and Senior Bowl and that's why they're going back to visit him again," said agent Jason Hendrickson. "He fits their system perfectly, and I think they're going to be looking hard at him on the first day. He definitely fits a need they have."
I've seen a few times where he's compared to Givens. Also, his stock appears to be dropping which could mean the Pats can get him a little later than it may have appeared a few months ago. The Pats need a WR and the two names I've seen linked to them most often are Avant and Stovall...which probably means they'll go elsewhere.
Does Groh have any good WRs in this draft? Whom are Groh's best (former)players in this draft?
 
Patriots | Team to visit with Avant

Thu, 13 Apr 2006 21:47:41 -0700

Albert Breer, of the MetroWest Daily News, reports the New England Patriots will send offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels and wide receivers coach Brian Daboll to the University of Michigan next week to visit with Michigan WR Jason Avant. The team already interviewed Avant at both the Senior Bowl and the NFL Combine. "They're very interested from the combine and Senior Bowl and that's why they're going back to visit him again," said agent Jason Hendrickson. "He fits their system perfectly, and I think they're going to be looking hard at him on the first day. He definitely fits a need they have."
I've seen a few times where he's compared to Givens. Also, his stock appears to be dropping which could mean the Pats can get him a little later than it may have appeared a few months ago. The Pats need a WR and the two names I've seen linked to them most often are Avant and Stovall...which probably means they'll go elsewhere.
Since you mentioned Stovall....probably because of the ND connection now. :D Wide Receiver | Senior | Notre Dame Maurice Stovall

Height: 6-4 3/8 | Weight: 217 | 40-Time: 4.61

Strengths:

Has tremendous size and knows how to use his large frame...Has great body control and can make the acrobatic catch...Leaper who will go up and get the ball at its highest point...Strong and physical...Willing blocker who does a tremendous job in that area...Not afraid to go over the middle...A bit of a long strider who is deceptively fast...Came through with a huge senior season under Charlie Weis.

Weaknesses:

Lacks elite speed / quickness and may have trouble separating from DB's at the next level...Didn't really emerge and play up to his potential until recently...Needs to keep his weight in check like he did as a senior...Will not do much in terms of yards after the catch...Will have concentration lapses...Doesn't seem to have natural hands and will drop some balls...Might only be a posession receiver.

Notes:

Could potentially bulk up and become a tight end or H-Back in the pros...With his size and ability this guy can be a terror to cover in the red zone...Intriguing prospect whose stock is on the rise thanks to a breakout season in 2005.

Maybe the Pats take him and convert him into a TE? :)

 
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Patriots | More details on Seymour's deal

Thu, 13 Apr 2006 21:48:06 -0700

ESPN.com's John Clayton reports New England Patriots DE Richard Seymour will make $28 million over three years and $24 million of it is guaranteed. The strange part of his deal is that only $6 million is being paid this year. There is an $18.6 million option bonus in 2007.
That worries me now. Those type of monster years "never" get paid.
The Globe talked on this issue... (Seymour thinking long-term)Signing bonus: $5.34 million

Option bonus: $18.66 million* due in 2007 (specific date unknown)

2006 base salary: $585,000

2007 base salary: $600,000

2008 base salary: $730,000

2009 base salary: $3.685 million

* If the Patriots don't pick up the option bonus, Seymour's 2007 base salary becomes $19.26 million guaranteed. This clause is built in to essentially ensure that Seymour's option bonus is picked up.

Seymour will also receive workout bonuses of $100,000 in each season from 2006-2009.

While the deal was confirmed as a four-year extension by Seymour, it is technically a three-year extension since Seymour was under contract through 2006.

It was never a slam dunk that the extension for Seymour would get worked out, but after significant free agent losses this offseason, the Patriots wanted to dispel the notion they don't pay their players top dollar, even though in the end they came within $200,000 of matching the Indianapolis Colts' offer to free agent kicker Adam Vinatieri, according to a league source.

Thought that last line was interesting since AV lately makes it sound like the Pats did wrong by him. :rolleyes:

 
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from NFLDraftcountdown,

As anyone who follows the NFL Draft surely knows "need" now plays a major role in who teams select, even overriding talent in some instances. With that being the case here is an update to the team needs feature that takes a look at the top three most glaring weaknesses for each team, complete with expanded analysis. While it isn't exact you can bet that these are the positions teams will be looking to address very early on come April 29

1. Cornerback: This was a problem last year and they tried bringing in Duane Starks as a replacement for Ty Law, who was a major flop, so it's time that they brought in someone to solidify the position.

2. Wide Receiver: With David Givens, Andre Davis and Tim Dwight leaving as free agents, not to mention Troy Brown being on his last legs, it is time this team invests a premium draft pick on a prospect.

3. Linebacker: Age, injuries and free agency have really caught up with the team here and they need to start planning for the future and bringing in some new blood at both outside and inside spots.

 
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Was looking at a few Mock drafts and saw QB Reggie McNeal listed (one having him going to the Patriots). Some feel he could become a WR. He reads like the kind of player the Pats could go after. He has been going in the fourth round it looks like where the Pats have two picks.

Reggie McNeal

Height: 6-2 | Weight: 198 | 40-Time: 4.35

Strengths:

An amazing athlete with rare speed for any position let alone quarterback...Has a great arm and quick release...Can move outside the pocket and throw on the run...Has about a 2-to-1 TD / INT ratio the past couple of seasons...Very tough...Shows flashes of brilliance...The type of running threat that keeps defenders up at night...Has a lot of tools to work with and some major upside.

Weaknesses:

Very erratic as a passer...Struggles to read defenses...Makes bad decisions under pressure...Leadership abilities have been questioned...Stares down his intended targets...Despite his speed he is no Michael Vick when it comes to moves...Is not very tall and gets too many passes knocked down at the line...Is too cautious and worried about making the big mistake...Raw overall and will need development.

Notes:

May have to make a position change since he is a much better athlete than quarterback...Did not have the huge senior season everyone was expecting...Will more than likely get an opportunity to be a pro signal caller and in a worst-case scenario could move to wide receiver...An interesting prospect to say the least.

 
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from NFLDraftcountdown,

As anyone who follows the NFL Draft surely knows "need" now plays a major role in who teams select, even overriding talent in some instances. With that being the case here is an update to the team needs feature that takes a look at the top three most glaring weaknesses for each team, complete with expanded analysis. While it isn't exact you can bet that these are the positions teams will be looking to address very early on come April 29

1. Cornerback: This was a problem last year and they tried bringing in Duane Starks as a replacement for Ty Law, who was a major flop, so it's time that they brought in someone to solidify the position.

2. Wide Receiver: With David Givens, Andre Davis and Tim Dwight leaving as free agents, not to mention Troy Brown being on his last legs, it is time this team invests a premium draft pick on a prospect.

3. Linebacker: Age, injuries and free agency have really caught up with the team here and they need to start planning for the future and bringing in some new blood at both outside and inside spots.
IMO, one of the few things that the Pats have done this offseason is address the secondary. The few players they have brought in have been defensive backs, so I am inclined to think that they will not take a CB in the first. Similarly, I'm not sure if there's a lot of depth at WR in this draft, so unless someone falls in their lap, I doubt they go WR early either. I'm guessing RB or LB first round, but we all know that anything can happen.
 
from NFLDraftcountdown,

As anyone who follows the NFL Draft surely knows "need" now plays a major role in who teams select, even overriding talent in some instances. With that being the case here is an update to the team needs feature that takes a look at the top three most glaring weaknesses for each team, complete with expanded analysis. While it isn't exact you can bet that these are the positions teams will be looking to address very early on come April 29

1. Cornerback: This was a problem last year and they tried bringing in Duane Starks as a replacement for Ty Law, who was a major flop, so it's time that they brought in someone to solidify the position.

2. Wide Receiver: With David Givens, Andre Davis and Tim Dwight leaving as free agents, not to mention Troy Brown being on his last legs, it is time this team invests a premium draft pick on a prospect.

3. Linebacker: Age, injuries and free agency have really caught up with the team here and they need to start planning for the future and bringing in some new blood at both outside and inside spots.
IMO, one of the few things that the Pats have done this offseason is address the secondary. The few players they have brought in have been defensive backs, so I am inclined to think that they will not take a CB in the first. Similarly, I'm not sure if there's a lot of depth at WR in this draft, so unless someone falls in their lap, I doubt they go WR early either. I'm guessing RB or LB first round, but we all know that anything can happen.
I agree with you Dave...Thinking LB unless DeAngelo Williams drops to them at #21 (which could be the case due to durability questions)...just do not seem them passing on him if he is still there. I know they also brought in Joseph Addai for a look, many feeling he will go in the second round. DeMeco Ryans has been looked at a few times, and if he is there at pick 21 and Williams is gone, I think that will be the pick. I know they were also looking at Richard Marshall for CB, but I think his stock has dropped some. WR is still a need, but I still think it will be addressed more in June. There are a few talented WRs in the draft that could slide some, but I think that pool is going to be a little dry by the end of the Third round. :2cents: I would like to see the first two rounds go DeMeco Ryans and Joseph Addai. Richard Marshall in the third would be icing on the cake. :D

 
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OK, here's what's going to happen with Seymour:

There's NO WAY the Pats will put themselves on the hook for that sized bonus in 2007. The reason the contract was structured this way (IMO) is the reports were correct that Seymour cannot restructure his 2006 deal until August (since he already reworked 2006 within the same 365 day period). SO, they write up the deal to protect Seymour and tell him how much guaranteed money he'll get no matter what, but there's almost certainly a handshake deal in place to restructure the deal come August to spread out some of that cap hit back into '06.

Just my opinion, but logic dictates this is roughly what will happen.

 
from NFLDraftcountdown,

As anyone who follows the NFL Draft surely knows "need" now plays a major role in who teams select, even overriding talent in some instances. With that being the case here is an update to the team needs feature that takes a look at the top three most glaring weaknesses for each team, complete with expanded analysis. While it isn't exact you can bet that these are the positions teams will be looking to address very early on come April 29

1. Cornerback: This was a problem last year and they tried bringing in Duane Starks as a replacement for Ty Law, who was a major flop, so it's time that they brought in someone to solidify the position.

2. Wide Receiver: With David Givens, Andre Davis and Tim Dwight leaving as free agents, not to mention Troy Brown being on his last legs, it is time this team invests a premium draft pick on a prospect.

3. Linebacker: Age, injuries and free agency have really caught up with the team here and they need to start planning for the future and bringing in some new blood at both outside and inside spots.
IMO, one of the few things that the Pats have done this offseason is address the secondary. The few players they have brought in have been defensive backs, so I am inclined to think that they will not take a CB in the first. Similarly, I'm not sure if there's a lot of depth at WR in this draft, so unless someone falls in their lap, I doubt they go WR early either. I'm guessing RB or LB first round, but we all know that anything can happen.
I agree with you Dave...Thinking LB unless DeAngelo Williams drops to them at #21 (which could be the case due to durability questions)...just do not seem them passing on him if he is still there. I know they also brought in Joseph Addai for a look, many feeling he will go in the second round. DeMeco Ryans has been looked at a few times, and if he is there at pick 21 and Williams is gone, I think that will be the pick. I know they were also looking at Richard Marshall for CB, but I think his stock has dropped some. WR is still a need, but I still think it will be addressed more in June. There are a few talented WRs in the draft that could slide some, but I think that pool is going to be a little dry by the end of the Third round. :2cents: I would like to see the first two rounds go DeMeco Ryans and Joseph Addai. Richard Marshall in the third would be icing on the cake. :D
I agree with most of what you have said. If DeAngelo Williams slips to them, I cant see passing on hiim. If he is gone, I most likely see a LB being the pick with Bobby Carpenter being at the top of the list.I think the Pats would be excited to see Richard Marshall available in the 2nd. They might even be willing to trade a 4th to move up in the 2nd if that is who they are targeting. I do not believe that Marshall would slip to the 3rd.

I see

DeAngelo Williams

Richard Marshall

Maurice Stovall

Jeremy Trueblood OL

back up plan

Bobby Carpenter

Joseph Addai

Devin Hester

Darnell Bing

 
OK, here's what's going to happen with Seymour:

There's NO WAY the Pats will put themselves on the hook for that sized bonus in 2007. The reason the contract was structured this way (IMO) is the reports were correct that Seymour cannot restructure his 2006 deal until August (since he already reworked 2006 within the same 365 day period). SO, they write up the deal to protect Seymour and tell him how much guaranteed money he'll get no matter what, but there's almost certainly a handshake deal in place to restructure the deal come August to spread out some of that cap hit back into '06.

Just my opinion, but logic dictates this is roughly what will happen.
The Pats are on the hook for $17 or $19 million (by giving him the bonus or cutting him), so either way he's going to get a small fortune unless they completely redo the deal, which given Seymour's demeanor over the years on the subject is unlikely to happen.
 
Patriots | Team conducted pre-draft visit with Carpenter

Fri, 14 Apr 2006 12:05:11 -0700

Mike Reiss, of the Boston Globe, reports the New England Patriots conducted a pre-draft visit with Ohio State LB Bobby Carpenter earlier this week, according to his agent.

Carpenter checks in

The Patriots hosted Ohio State linebacker Bobby Carpenter on a visit at Gillette Stadium earlier this week. The visit was confirmed by Carpenter’s agent.

Carpenter (6-foot-2, 256 pounds) is part of a linebacker corps that several scouts consider deeper in talent than previous years. The Pro Football Weekly draft book suggests Carpenter, an outside linebacker, might be best suited playing inside linebacker in the 3-4 defense. The Patriots run a base 3-4 defense and their need for an inside linebacker would increase should Mike Vrabel move back outside.

Carpenter started 11 games in 2005, but missed the Buckeyes’ bowl game after breaking the fibula in his right leg against Michigan at the end of the year. He totaled eight sacks on the season and is a projected first-round pick.

NFL teams can host up to 30 out-of-town NFL prospects leading up to the draft. The visits are often based on the team seeking more information on a player, either from a medical or personality standpoint.

Among the players confirmed to have pre-draft visits to New England are: cornerbacks Tye Hill (Clemson) and Richard Marshall (Fresno State); receiver Chad Jackson (Florida); running back Laurence Maroney (Minnesota); and defensive linemen Ray Edwards (Purdue) and Jeremy Mincey (Florida).

Safeties Daniel Bullocks (Nebraska) and Bernard Pollard (Purdue) are other players who were previously scheduled to visit.

Bobby Carpenter

Height: 6-2 1/2 | Weight: 256 | 40-Time: 4.66

Strengths:

Has excellent size...Is very fast and athletic...Has great instincts...Is very natural and does an excellent job in coverage...Does a nice job of filling against the run...Flies to the ball and makes plays sideline-to-sideline...Tremendous pass rusher and blitzer...Tough as nails and a true football player...Tenacious and has a great motor...Versatile player...Very productive and has a lot of experience.

Weaknesses:

Has some trouble shedding blocks...Is not the surest tackler...Was surrounded by a lot of talent which alleviated pressure and didn't allow the opposition to focus only on him...Can be too aggressive at times...Might not be quite as athletic as his computer numbers would lead you to believe...Needs to use his hands better.

Notes:

Father Rob played for the New York Giants...Saw some action at defensive end for the Buckeyes...Was overshadowed by A.J. Hawk but this guy is a top prospect in his own right...A great strongside linebacker who could also be an impact player in a 3-4 pass rushing role as well...One of the drafts most underrated players.

 
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OK, here's what's going to happen with Seymour:

There's NO WAY the Pats will put themselves on the hook for that sized bonus in 2007.  The reason the contract was structured this way (IMO) is the reports were correct that Seymour cannot restructure his 2006 deal until August (since he already reworked 2006 within the same 365 day period).  SO, they write up the deal to protect Seymour and tell him how much guaranteed money he'll get no matter what, but there's almost certainly a handshake deal in place to restructure the deal come August to spread out some of that cap hit back into '06.

Just my opinion, but logic dictates this is roughly what will happen.
The Pats are on the hook for $17 or $19 million (by giving him the bonus or cutting him), so either way he's going to get a small fortune unless they completely redo the deal, which given Seymour's demeanor over the years on the subject is unlikely to happen.
The clause was put in so that his option is picked up. He wanted more guaranteed money up front.Patriots | More on Seymour's contract

Fri, 14 Apr 2006 12:06:44 -0700

Mike Reiss, of the Boston Globe, reports New England Patriots DE Richard Seymour's contract included a signing bonus of $5.34 million. He has an option bonus of $18.66 million due in 2007. If the Patriots don't pick up the option bonus, Seymour's 2007 base salary becomes $19.26 million guaranteed. This clause is built in to essentially ensure that Seymour's option bonus is picked up. Reiss says ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli reported that the $18.66 million option bonus is split into two parts. The first part is $6.66 million, and according to Pasquarelli can be paid any time from Aug. 4 of this year to next March. The second part is $12 million and is due next March. Seymour will also receive workout bonuses of $100,000 in each season from 2006-2009.

 
Titans | Still in the hunt for Law

Fri, 14 Apr 2006 10:59:20 -0700

Clare Farnsworth, of the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, reports while the Seattle Seahawks are expected to present an offer to free agent CB Ty Law (Jets), the Tennessee Titans are still in the running for his services.

Patriots | Still in the running for Law

Fri, 14 Apr 2006 10:58:08 -0700

Clare Farnsworth, of the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, reports while the Seattle Seahawks are expected to present an offer to free agent CB Ty Law (Jets), the New England Patriots are still in the running for his services.

Browns | Still in the running for Law

Fri, 14 Apr 2006 10:57:13 -0700

Clare Farnsworth, of the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, reports while the Seattle Seahawks are expected to present an offer to free agent CB Ty Law (Jets), the Cleveland Browns are still in the running for his services.

 
Hey Guys,

Any of you have the TV schedule for the Draft? I have not been able to locate it yet. I was disappointed last year since it was on multiple channels which I did not get. I only get ESPN. I guess I should be lucky that I get cable where we live! lol

Thanks in Advance,

 
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Patriots | B. Pollard scheduled for pre-draft visit

Fri, 14 Apr 2006 18:18:36 -0700

Mike Reiss, of the Boston Globe, reports Purdue SS Bernard Pollard was previously scheduled to visit with the New England Patriots.

Patriots | Brady hitting the weight room early

Fri, 14 Apr 2006 18:02:46 -0700

Adam Schefter, of the NFL Network, reports New England Patriots QB Tom Brady usually takes a vacation during the NFL offseason, but not this year. Brady was so steamed about the way New England's season ended that he was determined to get back into the weight room and redeem himself and the organization for its postseason loss in January to the Denver Broncos. Those who know him say Brady has been extremely motivated by the postseason loss and is determined not to have another season end with one.

 
Report: Law talking to Patriots | Subscribe

CB Ty Law, who visited the Seahawks last week, might be trying to accelerate the process of finding a new team, or returning to his original one. His agent, Carl, Poston, told the Boston Globe that he was expecting to receive an offer from the Seahawks, and that he would run any offers past the Patriots. Seahawks president Tim Ruskell does not have a long track record on such matters, but I'd be a little surprised if Seattle made a substantial offer to a player who apparently planned to use any offers as leverage.

From the Globe: "Ty Law has been having discussions directly with coach Bill Belichick on a possible return to the Patriots, according to Law's agent, Carl Poston, but the Patriots have not yet talked money. 'The talks have been on the level of Ty and Bill and nothing else,' Poston said. 'It's been more of a feeling-out process. As I receive some offers on Ty, I'll present them to the Patriots and see what they think and what they can do.' Poston said he was expecting an offer for Law from the Seattle Seahawks last night and that Law is also waiting to hear from the Tennessee Titans on a possible visit."

The Titans' interest, or lack thereof, remains difficult to quantify.
Question for Pats fans:Here is an article by a Seahawks insider that I found interesting. My question is if Law is in fact trying to leverage more money out of the Patriots, wouldn't that put him at a disadvantage? I think New England is all business with its players and might not appreciate such a ploy. The Seahawks, Titans, and whomever else might not appreciate this either. I never thought he would end up in Seattle but I think he had some leverage with them. Now I think the Pats will get him at a reduced price all thanks to some bad tactics by Law and his agent. Would you agree or disagree based on the Pats recent history and knowing Law better than the rest of us? Thanks.
The Patriots know Ty Law better than anyone, and they know that Ty Law is the ultimate mercenary - he wants the most money he can get, but once he gets it, you're getting a guy who's going all out, all the time. But you're also getting a guy who, at this point in his career, is injury-prone, he's lost a step, and the crackdown on contact in the secondary does not favor his game at all.

Law will be back in New England if, and only if, the price is right - which it most likely will not be. The Patriots planned to go on without him a couple of years ago, and they certainly are not building the secondary around him now. If he signs here, it will strictly be a bonus to the personnel that has already been assembled in the secondary.
Good post. Sums up the situation. I think Law would be an excellent addition for the Pats. He knows their system and would be an excellent compliment to the youngsters (Hobbs, Gay and Samuel). Add in Warfield and that's a very deep, physical and solid CB position. Yet, when it comes to Ty it most likely will come down to the cash. That's always been his main priority and he doesn't make any bones about it (nor do his agents...the dreaded Poston boys). He knows it's a business with a short shelf life and he's looking to maximize his earnings (which he has every right to do). Hopefully something can get done here but if history is any indicator I'm skeptical that the Pats will be the highest bidder for his services. He's on the backend of a great career and the Pats aren't the type of team to pay for past production.
:thumbup: Thanks for the analysis. That makes things a bit clearer.

I'm a Michigan fan so I'll return the favor.

Avant catches passes that no one should catch. He runs good routes and he is an average guy with above average heart. If the Pats are looking in his direction I would think they are tracking something that not many of us know. That is Jason Avant is a solid guy who plays team football. I believe in the right system he is a great #2 WR that will make some great catches in clutch situations. You could do a whole lot worse and if you spend a second round pick on him, you'll likely be pretty pleased in the long run. :2cents:

 
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Patriots | Brady hitting the weight room early

Fri, 14 Apr 2006 18:02:46 -0700

Adam Schefter, of the NFL Network, reports New England Patriots QB Tom Brady usually takes a vacation during the NFL offseason, but not this year. Brady was so steamed about the way New England's season ended that he was determined to get back into the weight room and redeem himself and the organization for its postseason loss in January to the Denver Broncos. Those who know him say Brady has been extremely motivated by the postseason loss and is determined not to have another season end with one.
The kid truly is too good to be true. Easily my favorite athlete of all time.
 
Report: Law talking to Patriots | Subscribe

CB Ty Law, who visited the Seahawks last week, might be trying to accelerate the process of finding a new team, or returning to his original one. His agent, Carl, Poston, told the Boston Globe that he was expecting to receive an offer from the Seahawks, and that he would run any offers past the Patriots. Seahawks president Tim Ruskell does not have a long track record on such matters, but I'd be a little surprised if Seattle made a substantial offer to a player who apparently planned to use any offers as leverage.

From the Globe: "Ty Law has been having discussions directly with coach Bill Belichick on a possible return to the Patriots, according to Law's agent, Carl Poston, but the Patriots have not yet talked money. 'The talks have been on the level of Ty and Bill and nothing else,' Poston said. 'It's been more of a feeling-out process. As I receive some offers on Ty, I'll present them to the Patriots and see what they think and what they can do.' Poston said he was expecting an offer for Law from the Seattle Seahawks last night and that Law is also waiting to hear from the Tennessee Titans on a possible visit."

The Titans' interest, or lack thereof, remains difficult to quantify.
Question for Pats fans:Here is an article by a Seahawks insider that I found interesting. My question is if Law is in fact trying to leverage more money out of the Patriots, wouldn't that put him at a disadvantage? I think New England is all business with its players and might not appreciate such a ploy. The Seahawks, Titans, and whomever else might not appreciate this either. I never thought he would end up in Seattle but I think he had some leverage with them. Now I think the Pats will get him at a reduced price all thanks to some bad tactics by Law and his agent. Would you agree or disagree based on the Pats recent history and knowing Law better than the rest of us? Thanks.
The Patriots know Ty Law better than anyone, and they know that Ty Law is the ultimate mercenary - he wants the most money he can get, but once he gets it, you're getting a guy who's going all out, all the time. But you're also getting a guy who, at this point in his career, is injury-prone, he's lost a step, and the crackdown on contact in the secondary does not favor his game at all.

Law will be back in New England if, and only if, the price is right - which it most likely will not be. The Patriots planned to go on without him a couple of years ago, and they certainly are not building the secondary around him now. If he signs here, it will strictly be a bonus to the personnel that has already been assembled in the secondary.
Good post. Sums up the situation. I think Law would be an excellent addition for the Pats. He knows their system and would be an excellent compliment to the youngsters (Hobbs, Gay and Samuel). Add in Warfield and that's a very deep, physical and solid CB position. Yet, when it comes to Ty it most likely will come down to the cash. That's always been his main priority and he doesn't make any bones about it (nor do his agents...the dreaded Poston boys). He knows it's a business with a short shelf life and he's looking to maximize his earnings (which he has every right to do). Hopefully something can get done here but if history is any indicator I'm skeptical that the Pats will be the highest bidder for his services. He's on the backend of a great career and the Pats aren't the type of team to pay for past production.
:thumbup: Thanks for the analysis. That makes things a bit clearer.

I'm a Michigan fan so I'll return the favor.

Avant catches passes that no one should catch. He runs good routes and he is an average guy with above average heart. If the Pats are looking in his direction I would think they are tracking something that not many of us know. That is Jason Avant is a solid guy who plays team football. I believe in the right system he is a great #2 WR that will make some great catches in clutch situations. You could do a whole lot worse and if you spend a second round pick on him, you'll likely be pretty pleased in the long run. :2cents:
Your scouting report reeks of a Patriot. They definetly need WR help do we'll see what happens here.
 


Patriots | Brady hitting the weight room early

Fri, 14 Apr 2006 18:02:46 -0700

Adam Schefter, of the NFL Network, reports New England Patriots QB Tom Brady usually takes a vacation during the NFL offseason, but not this year. Brady was so steamed about the way New England's season ended that he was determined to get back into the weight room and redeem himself and the organization for its postseason loss in January to the Denver Broncos. Those who know him say Brady has been extremely motivated by the postseason loss and is determined not to have another season end with one.
The kid truly is too good to be true. Easily my favorite athlete of all time.
I think the real reason he's hitting the weights so hard is so that when he finally meets up with that scheister Vinatieri, he'll be ready to pay him back..... ;) Seriously, I saw Brady play in a Michael Jordan sponsored charity event back in February, I think it was. It was only a couple weeks after the Broncos game, and he was apparently playing with a tweaked groin, and I was wondering what the hell he was doing out there, semi-hurt and Im sure still pissed about giving that game away. He and Jordan won the tourney that weekend despite probably having alot on his mind. He and MJ teamed up was something to see.... a couple of the most driven characters youll ever see. Those guys were 2 friggin' peas in a pod on the links. And I couldnt help but think....."right, thats my guy....that crazy character is gonna come back and win another friggin' ring next year....". mark it down.

 


Patriots | Brady hitting the weight room early

Fri, 14 Apr 2006 18:02:46 -0700

Adam Schefter, of the NFL Network, reports New England Patriots QB Tom Brady usually takes a vacation during the NFL offseason, but not this year. Brady was so steamed about the way New England's season ended that he was determined to get back into the weight room and redeem himself and the organization for its postseason loss in January to the Denver Broncos. Those who know him say Brady has been extremely motivated by the postseason loss and is determined not to have another season end with one.
The kid truly is too good to be true. Easily my favorite athlete of all time.
I think the real reason he's hitting the weights so hard is so that when he finally meets up with that scheister Vinatieri, he'll be ready to pay him back..... ;) Seriously, I saw Brady play in a Michael Jordan sponsored charity event back in February, I think it was. It was only a couple weeks after the Broncos game, and he was apparently playing with a tweaked groin, and I was wondering what the hell he was doing out there, semi-hurt and Im sure still pissed about giving that game away. He and Jordan won the tourney that weekend despite probably having alot on his mind. He and MJ teamed up was something to see.... a couple of the most driven characters youll ever see. Those guys were 2 friggin' peas in a pod on the links. And I couldnt help but think....."right, thats my guy....that crazy character is gonna come back and win another friggin' ring next year....". mark it down.
:thumbup: Now let's get the boy a few more targets to throw at, and he will be money! I think the Pats will draft a WR, but I just do not see it in the first two rounds. Have to get a list of third and fourth round prospects (since they have four picks during that time).

 
Patriots | O. Hoyte impresses Pees

Fri, 14 Apr 2006 21:50:59 -0700

Albert Breer, of the MetroWest Daily News, reports North Carolina State LB Oliver Hoyte impressed New England Patriots defensive coordinator Dean Pees during a private workout. Pees started drawing up plays and showed him the 3-4, and Hoyte knew the ins and outs without ever playing in one. Hoyte's agent, Philip Wickstrom, said, "Dean asked him, 'How do you know that?' He said, 'I study it." Hoyte added, "I just have a knack for picking up schemes. (Pees) drew a basic defense on the board and said, 'If this guy's doing this what should he be doing?' And I said, 'He's gotta being doing that.' He was really shocked." Hoyte believes he would fit the team well and Pees said the same thing.

 
Patriots | O. Hoyte impresses Pees

Fri, 14 Apr 2006 21:50:59 -0700

Albert Breer, of the MetroWest Daily News, reports North Carolina State LB Oliver Hoyte impressed New England Patriots defensive coordinator Dean Pees during a private workout. Pees started drawing up plays and showed him the 3-4, and Hoyte knew the ins and outs without ever playing in one. Hoyte's agent, Philip Wickstrom, said, "Dean asked him, 'How do you know that?' He said, 'I study it." Hoyte added, "I just have a knack for picking up schemes. (Pees) drew a basic defense on the board and said, 'If this guy's doing this what should he be doing?' And I said, 'He's gotta being doing that.' He was really shocked." Hoyte believes he would fit the team well and Pees said the same thing.

 
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:banned: The sites I use for my Rookie information do not rank what rounds they think the WRs will go in. I looked at the mocks they did, and they have four to six WR going in the first two rounds, three to five going in the third (with the Pats grabbing Jeff Webb in that round), and two in the fourth round. Looks like the Third round is the round to make a move on WRs.

Here are the top 15...Will any of them be a New England Patriot??? :)

1. Santonio Holmes Ohio St. 5-10 5/8 179 4.34

2. Chad Jackson Florida 6-0 7/8 213 4.32

3. Sinorice Moss Miami (FL) 5-8 185 4.38

4. Derek Hagan Arizona St. 6-1 3/4 208 4.42

5. Demetrius Williams Oregon 6-1 3/4 197 4.46

6. Martin Nance Miami (OH) 6-4 1/4 213 4.55

7. Maurice Stovall Notre Dame 6-4 3/8 217 4.61

8. Jason Avant Michigan 6-0 1/2 209 4.62

9. Greg Lee Pittsburgh 6-1 5/8 201 4.60

10. Greg Jennings Western Michigan 5-11 1/8 197 4.48

11. Ben Obomanu Auburn 6-1 205 4.45

12. Devin Aromashodu Auburn 6-2 1/2 201 4.35

13. Hank Baskett New Mexico 6-2 7/8 224 4.49

14. Mike Hass Oregon St. 6-0 5/8 208 4.63

15. Jeff Webb San Diego St. 6-2 1/8 211 4.40

 
from Patriots.com NFL draft prospects on the decline: running backs

Snipits:

Running back is a position the Patriots will likely look at in the draft. Here are a few backs that are on the decline and may not be a good fit in New England.

LenDale White, USC – White has very good vision in the hole and was a touchdown-scoring machine at USC but he does come with some baggage. He had some trouble with academics in college and his weight and attitude are also a concern.

I know a lot of people would like to see White in New England and while I wouldn’t scream and yell if they took him, just remember the old phrase “Buyer Beware.” If I had to go on record right now, I would say White’s career is going to resemble that of Curtis Enis more than it will Corey Dillon.

Joseph Addai, LSU – I think my good friend Andy Hart put it best while we were watching Addai on tape. He said, “Joseph Addai is just a guy.” That is exactly right. Addai is a good player and someone you would like to have on your team but he’s not going to be a feature back in the NFL.

Addai does a lot of things well but nothing great. He has impressive straight-line speed but he isn’t very elusive or quick. He can catch the ball well out of the backfield but he doesn’t have great moves in the open field. He runs well inside but he doesn’t break a lot of tackles. In other words, Addai is a perfect situational back but to say he’s worthy of a late first-early second round draft pick is stretching it.

I think Addai is going to have a good NFL career. He’ll be a nice compliment to a team because he can do so many different things. However, I don’t think Addai is ever going to be an every-down running back at the pro level so drafting him high is a risky proposition in my opinion. Think of him as a faster, more talented Patrick Pass

Brian Calhoun, Wisconsin – In my opinion, Calhoun is one of those guys who is going to end up being a better college player than he will be in the pros. Wisconsin has a track record over the past decade of having great college runners who don’t do as well in the NFL and I think Calhoun is going to follow in those

footsteps.

I’ll give him credit, he shows good vision and patience on tape but I’m worried about him being able to run inside at the next level. Calhoun bounced a lot of plays outside in college but in the NFL, that’s hard to do over and over again because of the speed difference in the pros. I just don’t think he’s a strong runner between the tackles. I compare him to William Green. I felt the same way about him coming out of Boston College. Instead of running hard inside, Green would often bounce runs to the outside for no reason. That kind of running style can get you in trouble in the NFL and I see a lot of that out of Calhoun when I watch him.

Mike Bell, Arizona – Going into the Combine there were the big four at running back and then a bunch of other backs all bunched in together. We all knew that in the next two months some backs would rise up draft boards and others would fall. Bell was in that group but no other back has seen their stock drop more since the Combine than he has.

Bell had a terrible outing in Indianapolis. He didn’t fair well in the position drills and ran in the 4.6-4.8 range. Bell told the media before he ran that scouts had questions about his speed and he didn’t do anything to calm their fears. Not only did Bell not run good times in the 40, he looked very slow in the change of direction drills as well.

As far as playing running back in the NFL, Bell doesn’t have the speed, vision, quickness or feel for the position. If you are looking for a mid-round prospect at running back for the Patriots, cross Bell off your list. He just doesn’t have the physical tools to succeed at the NFL level.

Leon Washington, Florida State – Out of all the backs I saw on film, Washington was the one I liked the least. I saw very little in him from watching Florida State games to breaking him down on film that would make me believe Washington can even make an NFL roster.

Washington’s only hope to stick with an NFL team is as a kick returner and third-down back. However, his lack of physical skills and instincts as a runner will limit what he can do as a running back in the pros. There are other backs in this class similar to Washington who are much more talented and because of that, I expect the former Seminole won’t hear his name called until the later rounds of the draft. He’ll have a tough time making an NFL roster in my opinion.

 
Happy Easter All... :thumbup:

I thought the Pats might look at Reggie McNeal in this same manner...I could not find Marques Hagans profile on the drafting sites I look at....not sure if that is a good thing or not. Here is what I did find: Marques Hagans

Patriots | Team worked out Hagans

Sat, 15 Apr 2006 22:15:41 -0700

Albert Breer, of the MetroWest Daily News, reports the New England Patriots traveled to Charlottesville, Va. to conduct a private workout with Virginia QB Marques Hagans, who projects to be either a wide receiver or third-down back in the NFL. "Different teams are looking at him different ways," said agent Vance Malinovic. "A lot of them are looking at him in the Randle El (WR Antwaan) capacity, and I can see how they would."

WORTH NOTING: Two-year starter at quarterback (2004-05) ... played a multitude of roles throughout his career in addition to quarterback ... spent two seasons at wide receiver and punt returner, while also lining up at tailback periodically ... played in all 51 games in his career, tying a school record for most games played ... started the final 24 games of his career at quarterback, the longest streak by a UVa QB since at least 1950 ...started 26 games in his career at quarterback, including at least one each year to join Scott Gardner (1972-75) as the only quarterbacks in school history to start at least one game in four different seasons ... finished his career in the top five in virtually every quarterback category in school history ...second in the UVa record book in completion percentage (.623), third in completions (408), fourth in attempts (655) and total offense (5779), fifth in yards (4877), and seventh in touchdown passes (27) ...11 200-yard passing games in his career are fourth... completed at least 60 percent of his passes in 15 of 26 starts ... his 902 career rushing yards are third all-time by a Cavalier quarterback ...finished 17th in ACC history in pass efficiency ... led the team to eight wins as a junior in 2004, tied for the most by a first-time UVa starting quarterback ...Scott Secules also did it in 1987 ... was Virginia's leading punt returner in 2002 and 2003 ...sixth in UVa history with 58 career punt returns and ninth with 531 punt return yards ... received his degree in anthropology in May 2005 and played as a graduate student during the 2005 season. :thumbup:

 
Patriots | Team visited with K. Jennings

Sat, 15 Apr 2006 17:49:30 -0700

Miami CB Kelly Jennings said in his NFL.com NFL Draft diary New England Patriots head coach Bill Belichick visited with him in Florida. "We watched film for about an hour, and then we went outside to do drills for about an hour. Talking with Coach Belichick was a great experience. All you've heard about him is true," Jennings wrote.

Kelly Jennings

Height: 5-10 7/8 | Weight: 178 | 40-Time: 4.39

Strengths:

Very smooth with great athletic ability...Has good height and the frame to get bigger...Very quick with excellent speed and a burst...Has fluid hips and good feet...Changes direction and recovers well...Has pretty good ball skills and will pick off some passes...Has a lot of experience...Will stick with receivers step-for-step in man coverage...Smart and instinctive...Hard worker with top intangibles.

Weaknesses:

Lacks the bulk you look for and really needs to add some weight...Needs to get stronger...Is not very physical...Doesn't support the run well...With his slight frame will he hold up physically at the next level?...Won't fit in every scheme.

Notes:

The latest Hurricane cornerback who will make his way to the NFL...Similar in a lot of ways to former 1st round pick Philip Buchanon...Pure cover corner who has just about everything you look for in terms of height, speed and athleticism.

 
Hagans seems to be a New England kindof guy. He's not as tall as Givens, but he's an exQB with big speed, running ability and alot of smarts. He could be a replacement for someone....possibly Troy Brown eventually. The Pats really need to make their WR picks carefully though, so if theyre looking at Hagans as a receiver, theyd better be sure. Im sure he could return punts, play special teams...do basically whatever's asked. Hagans should fall to some team before the end of the 3rd round. I think that's a bit early for him personally, but if he goes on the 2nd day somewhere, Id love for it to be New England.

 
Hagans seems to be a New England kindof guy. He's not as tall as Givens, but he's an exQB with big speed, running ability and alot of smarts. He could be a replacement for someone....possibly Troy Brown eventually. The Pats really need to make their WR picks carefully though, so if theyre looking at Hagans as a receiver, theyd better be sure. Im sure he could return punts, play special teams...do basically whatever's asked. Hagans should fall to some team before the end of the 3rd round. I think that's a bit early for him personally, but if he goes on the 2nd day somewhere, Id love for it to be New England.
I would agree here. Since I could not find him anywhere on the draft lists, I checked a few mocks...I could not find him drafted in them. Am I missing something here?
 
Anyone know what happened to "Mr. Irrelevant" from last years draft? :D

He was drafted by the Patriots, but now plays for the Arizona Cardinals...I am assuming practice squad or something. At least he had some fun being Mr. Irrelevant: William Penn's Stokes taken No. 255 by Patriots

# 0 Andy Stokes

Position: TE

Height: 6-4

Weight: 257

Born: 06/02/1981

College: William Penn

NFL Experience: Rookie

 
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Hagans seems to be a New England kindof guy.  He's not as tall as Givens, but he's an exQB with big speed, running ability and alot of smarts.  He could be a replacement for someone....possibly Troy Brown eventually.  The Pats really need to make their WR picks carefully though, so if theyre looking at Hagans as a receiver, theyd better be sure.  Im sure he could return punts, play special teams...do basically whatever's asked.  Hagans should fall to some team before the end of the 3rd round.  I think that's a bit early for him personally, but if he goes on the 2nd day somewhere, Id love for it to be New England.
I would agree here. Since I could not find him anywhere on the draft lists, I checked a few mocks...I could not find him drafted in them. Am I missing something here?
hopefully alot of people are missing something here with Hagans. The guy can do anything. Hagans did alot of good at UVA, and while he wasnt nessecarily the greatest Q VA has ever produced, they have produced alot of solid NFL players with a history of contibution or potential. Hagans doesnt have a defined position as of yet, though WR/ST will be his niche. He's not quite a good enough runner to play back, but he could be utilized in the backfield on occasion for certain calls. He has literally done it all there. He's compared most with Randle-El. Ran a great 40 at the combine and is just a good athlete, but he's only about 5'10ish 200lbish. Not terribly undersized for a receiver. Like I said, Id love to see him fall to the 4th, but I have a feeling he'll go in the 3rd to one of the 'smarter' teams that knows a winner when they see one.
 
Kicker in focus (from Boston.com)

(Continuing look at some of the draft-eligible kickers who the Patriots might bring in to compete with Martin Gramatica.)

The NFL invited only two kickers to the NFL Combine in February -- Ohio State’s Josh Huston and Missouri State’s Jon Scifres -- meaning they are considered the top prospects at the position.

Scifres might have had a leg up because his brother, Chargers punter Mike Scifres, prepared him for what NFL teams might ask.

“He gave me a heads up on everything, so there were no surprises,” said Scifres, who was 10-of-14 on field goal attempts as a senior. “He’s helped me out tremendously.”

Like many kickers, Scifres was surprised last month when he learned that Adam Vinatieri signed a free-agent contract with the Colts.

“He’s one of the premier kickers in the NFL, if not the best,” said the 6-foot, 224-pound Scifres. “Those are big shoes to fill. Expectations would be high, but the only thing you can do is know that you’re not him, and try to come in and do something to help the team as much as possible.”

Scifres began kicking and punting when he was sophomore in high school. He handled only the kicking duties at Missouri State as a freshman (3-of-6) and sophomore (11-of-20), before adding punting responsibilities his final two seasons. Scifres’ best season kicking field goals came as a junior, when he was 15-of-15.

In addition to attending the NFL Combine, Scifres kicked in two college All-Star games, giving NFL scouts a chance to see him in action.

Scifres said he enjoys pressure situations. As for which NFL kickers he particularly enjoys watching, Mike Vanderjagt tops the list.

“He’s a confident guy, consistent,” he said.

 
Patriots | Flutie still deciding

Sun, 16 Apr 2006 06:58:27 -0700

Nick Cafardo, of the Boston Globe, reports free agent QB Doug Flutie (Patriots) continues to explore broadcasting opportunities. His agent, Kristen Kuliga, said something regarding either a broadcasting job or another year with the New England Patriots should develop after the NFL Draft. Flutie has said he would likely not play for anyone other than the Patriots because of the proximity to his home.

 
EDIT: Just for clarity if you did not read the article first, this is not a top 10 list in order...I just cut and pasted the names so you would know who was in the article. I have added what round the article thinks each player will go in.



Drafting a top 10 list for the Patriots

1. Bobby Carpenter, LB, Ohio State (article thinks a first rounder)

2. Anthony Smith, S, Syracuse (first-day pick but would be a steal in the third or fourth round)

3. Tye Hill, CB, Clemson (article thinks a first rounder)

4. LenDale White, RB, USC (article thinks a first rounder)

5. Cedric Griffin, CB, Texas (might be available in the third round)

6. Chad Greenway, LB, Iowa (article thinks a first rounder)

7. Maurice Stovall, WR, Notre Dame (Late second or maybe early third round)

8. Will Blackmon, CB/WR, Boston College (He goes in the first day)

9. Manny Lawson, LB/DE, N.C. State (should be a first-round pick)

10. Sinorice Moss, WR, Miami (first, second round pick)

 
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Drafting a top 10 list for the Patriots

1. Bobby Carpenter, LB, Ohio State

2. Anthony Smith, S, Syracuse

3. Tye Hill, CB, Clemson

4. LenDale White, RB, USC

5. Cedric Griffin, CB, Texas

6. Chad Greenway, LB, Iowa

7. Maurice Stovall, WR, Notre Dame

8. Will Blackmon, CB/WR, Boston College

9. Manny Lawson, LB/DE, N.C. State

10. Sinorice Moss, WR, Miami
I'm not sure where you are coming from with your top 10 list. Some of those guys arent even projected to be 1st round picks let alone the 21st pick. (such as Anthony Smith, Cedric Griffin, Maurice Stovall, and Will Blackmon).In actuality, the Pats could get 3 of the guys from this list.

1st Bobby Carpenter

2nd Maurice Stovall

3rd Will Blackmon

 


Drafting a top 10 list for the Patriots

1. Bobby Carpenter, LB, Ohio State

2. Anthony Smith, S, Syracuse

3. Tye Hill, CB, Clemson

4. LenDale White, RB, USC

5. Cedric Griffin, CB, Texas

6. Chad Greenway, LB, Iowa

7. Maurice Stovall, WR, Notre Dame

8. Will Blackmon, CB/WR, Boston College

9. Manny Lawson, LB/DE, N.C. State

10. Sinorice Moss, WR, Miami
Sorry, I see you were just mimicking the article from Cafardo. I guess he didnt put them in an order of preferance or anything. Kind of silly to number them if they are not listed in a particular order.
 
Patriots | O. Hoyte impresses Pees

Fri, 14 Apr 2006 21:50:59 -0700

Albert Breer, of the MetroWest Daily News, reports North Carolina State LB Oliver Hoyte impressed New England Patriots defensive coordinator Dean Pees during a private workout. Pees started drawing up plays and showed him the 3-4, and Hoyte knew the ins and outs without ever playing in one. Hoyte's agent, Philip Wickstrom, said, "Dean asked him, 'How do you know that?' He said, 'I study it." Hoyte added, "I just have a knack for picking up schemes. (Pees) drew a basic defense on the board and said, 'If this guy's doing this what should he be doing?' And I said, 'He's gotta being doing that.' He was really shocked." Hoyte believes he would fit the team well and Pees said the same thing.
Hmm, this is real interesting. Sounds like he def. is on NE's radar.
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Height: 6-2 5/8 | Weight: 245 | 40-Time: 5.03Official Bio	Strengths:Has excellent size and sturdy frame...A superb run stopper...Big hitter who can lay the lumber...Solid tackler...Tough with good strength...Has a top motor...Smart with solid instincts...Has top intangibles...Experienced and was very productive.Weaknesses:Does not have great speed...Lacks agility and quickness...Does not have good range...Really struggles in coverage...Is not very versatile and will be limited to the middle...Has durability concerns...Lacks upside and may be a situational guy.Notes:Nickname is "Ollie"...A classic two-down thumper in the middle...Played outside linebacker in college...Could play a role for some team in the right circumstances but probably won't be anything more than a backup at the professional level.
Nfldraftcountdown has him as a late round guy. But he looks to haev the size that BB likes in his LBs. Seems like he would be a great ILB in the 3-4.
 


Drafting a top 10 list for the Patriots

Drafting a top 10 list for the Patriots

1. Bobby Carpenter, LB, Ohio State (article thinks a first rounder)

2. Anthony Smith, S, Syracuse (first-day pick but would be a steal in the third or fourth round)

3. Tye Hill, CB, Clemson (article thinks a first rounder)

4. LenDale White, RB, USC (article thinks a first rounder)

5. Cedric Griffin, CB, Texas (might be available in the third round)

6. Chad Greenway, LB, Iowa (article thinks a first rounder)

7. Maurice Stovall, WR, Notre Dame (Late second or maybe early third round)

8. Will Blackmon, CB/WR, Boston College (He goes in the first day)

9. Manny Lawson, LB/DE, N.C. State (should be a first-round pick)

10. Sinorice Moss, WR, Miami (first, second round pick)
Sorry, I see you were just mimicking the article from Cafardo. I guess he didnt put them in an order of preferance or anything. Kind of silly to number them if they are not listed in a particular order.
Thanks for noticing...hate for my Patriot Brothers here to think that was my top 10 list! :D I was going to just cut and paste the whole article, but it was a long one so I only took the names that were listed. The article tells more about what rounds each might go in. I added it to the original post for clarity.I am thinking for the first pick it will be more like this:

1. BOBBY CARPENTER

2. DEANGELO WILLIAMS (I think if he is there, but not sure based on durability)

3. DEMECO RYANS

 
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Drafting a top 10 list for the Patriots

Drafting a top 10 list for the Patriots

1. Bobby Carpenter, LB, Ohio State (article thinks a first rounder)

2. Anthony Smith, S, Syracuse (first-day pick but would be a steal in the third or fourth round)

3. Tye Hill, CB, Clemson (article thinks a first rounder)

4. LenDale White, RB, USC (article thinks a first rounder)

5. Cedric Griffin, CB, Texas (might be available in the third round)

6. Chad Greenway, LB, Iowa (article thinks a first rounder)

7. Maurice Stovall, WR, Notre Dame (Late second or maybe early third round)

8. Will Blackmon, CB/WR, Boston College (He goes in the first day)

9. Manny Lawson, LB/DE, N.C. State (should be a first-round pick)

10. Sinorice Moss, WR, Miami (first, second round pick)
Sorry, I see you were just mimicking the article from Cafardo. I guess he didnt put them in an order of preferance or anything. Kind of silly to number them if they are not listed in a particular order.
Thanks for noticing...hate for my Patriot Brothers here to think that was my top 10 list! :D I was going to just cut and paste the whole article, but it was a long one so I only took the names that were listed. The article tells more about what rounds each might go in. I added it to the original post for clarity.I am thinking for the first pick it will be more like this:

1. BOBBY CARPENTER

2. DEANGELO WILLIAMS (I think if he is there, but not sure based on durability)

3. DEMECO RYANS
Those are three names that often get linked to the Pats. Since they are the Pats you just know it won't be that easy and they'll end up selecting a guy no one had thought of like a Thomas Howard.
 
Patriots | Team has six remaining free agents

Sun, 16 Apr 2006 21:56:13 -0700

The New England Patriots have six remaining free agents; one unrestricted, two exclusive-rights and three players released earlier. Unrestricted free agent QB Doug Flutie heads the list of remaining free agents.

Is Beisel The Answer At Inside Linebacker?

 
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April 14, 2006 on 2:51 pm

NFL Europe update

A couple of players allocated by the Patriots are playing pretty well in NFL Europe for the Rhein Fire. Wide receiver Zuriel Smith caught a pair of touchdowns from Drew Henson in the Fire’s most recent victory, a 31-21 win over the Hamburg Sea Devils.

Smith caught TDs of six and eight yards, giving him three scores on the season, good for third in the league.

April 13, 2006 on 10:53 pm

“Tell me everything will be OK …”

With the Blue Jays in town to face the Red Sox for the last three days, there was no shortage of Patriots talk in the visiting clubhouse. Toronto third base coach Brian Butterfield, a native of Orono, Maine, is one of the most maniacal Pats fans on earth, never missing a game with a home theater setup that includes two TVs for as much football as possible.

Butterfield, like most Patriots fans, was concerned after the team lost David Givens, Willie McGinest and Adam Vinatieri to free agency. So when he ran into Patriots player personnel czar Scott Pioli recently, he had but one question.

“I walked right up to him and said, ‘Please tell me everything’s going to be OK,’” Butterfield pleaded with manic intensity. “He laughed just like you’re laughing now.”

Pioli’s response?

“Everything’s going to be OK,” he assured Butterfield. “Every year at this time me and Bill (Belichick) are a couple of (expletives). We’ll be fine.” :thumbup:

Said Butterfield: “That was all I needed to hear. That’s good enough for me.”

:popcorn:

 

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