Patriots are now a Dynasty (1 Viewer)

[Mr. Pink]

I practically own rolling eyes in a lot of circumstances. I didn't even take offense. You're entitled to your opinion about my opinion, and I'm entitled to my opinion that your opinion about my opinion sucks. Moving on as requested...

LOL. This reminds me of that episode from Happy Days when big nose Al tries to pick a fight with Chaci's basketball recruiter:"All right, which opinion do you want? Do you want this opinion (swings right fist)? Or do you want this opinion (swings the left)?"

 

[The Ghost of Common]

Curious to see if this thread will still hold up in this day and age. Knowing what we know now

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

I've been on record saying they aren't. They aren't even moreso now.

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

 

[butcher boy]

The Niners of the 80's or the Raiders/Steelers of the 70s would own the Pats of the 2000s, cameras or no.

 

[HoTnickZ]

The Niners of the 80's or the Raiders/Steelers of the 70s would own the Pats of the 2000s, cameras or no.

This doesn't mean that they aren't a a dynasty even though... *

 

[Mr. Pink]

Good Lord,

I had to do a double take when I saw this oldie pulled up from the ashes.

I think the bottom line of this thread was it is all based on opinion. Pats fans will say they're a dynasty, Pats haters will say they aren't, the neutral voices will start to sway away from the middle in light of the recent offense, and conspiracy theorists will spend countless hours hashing through old game footage trying to support their theories.

Raider fan will continue to be disgruntled about the 'tuck rule' and will now throw sign stealing into the myriad reasons why they were robbed on that snowy night....momentarily forgetting that the Pats sideline couldn't see the Raiders sideline if they had infrared equipment.

Steeler fan and Colt fan will use this as justification as to why each were robbed of their own shot to "own the decade."

At the end of the day, it's all comes down to opinion. My opinion is I don't really care all that much about how their past is perceived. The Lombardis are not going to leave the trophy case. More to the point, should they get another one or two, none of the naysayers out there can pull the "cheating" arrow out of their quiver.

It'll be OK here and I understand that will irritate the haters. But I won't apologize for their past successes. For those who continue to take issue with the Pats, all I can say is that you have an issue you'll need to resolve on your own. This chapter is over and this Pats fan is moving on. Tail between the leg, maybe, but moving on nonetheless.

 

[Mr. Pink]

The Niners of the 80's or the Raiders/Steelers of the 70s would own the Pats of the 2000s, cameras or no.

This doesn't mean that they aren't a a dynasty even though... *

BTW, kudos to you HTZ on the asterisk. I'm surprised it had taken this long for that to come up. Nice work.

 

[HoTnickZ]

The Niners of the 80's or the Raiders/Steelers of the 70s would own the Pats of the 2000s, cameras or no.

This doesn't mean that they aren't a a dynasty even though... *

BTW, kudos to you HTZ on the asterisk. I'm surprised it had taken this long for that to come up. Nice work.

Thanks. I came up with that one myself. Feel free to increase the size as you see fit.

 

[Phlash]

Good Lord,I had to do a double take when I saw this oldie pulled up from the ashes.I think the bottom line of this thread was it is all based on opinion. Pats fans will say they're a dynasty, Pats haters will say they aren't, the neutral voices will start to sway away from the middle in light of the recent offense, and conspiracy theorists will spend countless hours hashing through old game footage trying to support their theories.Raider fan will continue to be disgruntled about the 'tuck rule' and will now throw sign stealing into the myriad reasons why they were robbed on that snowy night....momentarily forgetting that the Pats sideline couldn't see the Raiders sideline if they had infrared equipment.Steeler fan and Colt fan will use this as justification as to why each were robbed of their own shot to "own the decade."At the end of the day, it's all comes down to opinion. My opinion is I don't really care all that much about how their past is perceived. The Lombardis are not going to leave the trophy case. More to the point, should they get another one or two, none of the naysayers out there can pull the "cheating" arrow out of their quiver. It'll be OK here and I understand that will irritate the haters. But I won't apologize for their past successes. For those who continue to take issue with the Pats, all I can say is that you have an issue you'll need to resolve on your own. This chapter is over and this Pats fan is moving on. Tail between the leg, maybe, but moving on nonetheless.

Its no fun not being the lead dog in the pack.

 

[The Shizzle]

Good Lord,I had to do a double take when I saw this oldie pulled up from the ashes.I think the bottom line of this thread was it is all based on opinion. Pats fans will say they're a dynasty, Pats haters will say they aren't, the neutral voices will start to sway away from the middle in light of the recent offense, and conspiracy theorists will spend countless hours hashing through old game footage trying to support their theories.Raider fan will continue to be disgruntled about the 'tuck rule' and will now throw sign stealing into the myriad reasons why they were robbed on that snowy night....momentarily forgetting that the Pats sideline couldn't see the Raiders sideline if they had infrared equipment.Steeler fan and Colt fan will use this as justification as to why each were robbed of their own shot to "own the decade."At the end of the day, it's all comes down to opinion. My opinion is I don't really care all that much about how their past is perceived. The Lombardis are not going to leave the trophy case. More to the point, should they get another one or two, none of the naysayers out there can pull the "cheating" arrow out of their quiver. It'll be OK here and I understand that will irritate the haters. But I won't apologize for their past successes. For those who continue to take issue with the Pats, all I can say is that you have an issue you'll need to resolve on your own. This chapter is over and this Pats fan is moving on. Tail between the leg, maybe, but moving on nonetheless.

You have made some very valid points there.

 

[jurb26]

The Pats were and still are a dynasty. No doubt in my mind. I'm a Steeler fan.

 

[Workhorse]

Reposted from another board:

2001Patriots vs. Raiders1st Half: 0-72nd Half (incl. overtime): 16-6Final: 16-13Patriots vs. Steelers1st Half: 14-32nd Half: 10-14Final: 24-17Patriots vs. Rams1st Half: 14-32nd Half: 6-14Final: 20-172003Patriots vs. Titans1st Half: 14-72nd Half: 3-7Final: 17-14Patriots vs. Colts1st Half: 15-02nd Half: 9-14Final: 24-14Patriots vs. Panthers1st Half: 14-102nd Half: 18-19Final: 32-292004Patriots vs. Colts1st Half: 6-32nd Half: 14-0Final: 20-3Patriots vs. Steelers1st Half: 24-32nd Half: 17-24Final: 41-27Patriots vs. Eagles1st Half: 7-72nd Half: 17-14Final: 24-212005Patriots vs. Jaguars1st Half: 7-32nd Half: 21-0Final: 28-3Patriots vs. Broncos1st Half: 3-102nd Half: 10-17Final: 13-272006Patriots vs. Jets1st Half: 17-102nd Half: 20-6Final: 37-16Patriots vs. Chargers1st Half: 10-142nd Half: 14-7Final: 24-21Patriots vs. Colts1st Half: 21-62nd Half: 13-32Final: 34-38Total first half pointsatriots: 182Opponents: 86Total second half pointsatriots: 188Opponents: 174Total OverallPatriots: 370Opponents: 260ConclusionsThe Patriots didn’t do perform significantly better offensively in the second half of games than in the first. The theory that the Patriots gained advantage by analyzing signal tape over halftime just doesn’t hold water statistically.This is especially true when compared with the offensive output of the Patriots’ opponents in the second half. These opponents more than DOUBLED their total scoring in the second half of the game versus the first.