Patriots being investigated after Colts game (4 Viewers)

[Raider Nation]

Yah they couldn't have won that AFC Championship unless they deflated the balls.... rofl

I'm sure that was the first time they did it. Just like the guy who gets caught speeding the first time he speeds.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

you indy fans got all offseason to look fwd to that pats game next year

not that I expect them to be vindictive or anything..........

 

[dschuler]

Only one of the twelve balls were under inflated. The rest were just a tick under 12.5 psi after being in freezing weather for five hours. Chris Mortensen is such a tool.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/new-report-says-only-one-patriots-football-was-seriously-deflated-165514858.html

 

[Wadsworth]

The salty haters are out in full force today Pats fans. It's us against the world. Heavy is the head that wears the crown.

What crown is that?

Hold that thought...

Bump

A well deserved bump. Grats.

 

[matuski]

Only one of the twelve balls were under inflated. The rest were just a tick under 12.5 psi after being in freezing weather for five hours. Chris Mortensen is such a tool.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/new-report-says-only-one-patriots-football-was-seriously-deflated-165514858.html

Anyone thinking this wasn't fully intentional by the NFL and larger media networks are blind sheep imo.

Full blown reality TV and this thread is 130+ pages proving people are stupid enough to fall for anything.

"I got sucked in to full blown Housewives of Atlanta drama over football air pressure." - say that out loud to yourself.

 

[The Ref]

Yah they couldn't have won that AFC Championship unless they deflated the balls.... rofl

I'm sure that was the first time they did it. Just like the guy who gets caught speeding the first time he speeds.

Did what? Play outside? I'm sure you are right about that!

 

[GoBirds]

matuski, on 02 Feb 2015 - 08:10 AM, said:

dschuler, on 02 Feb 2015 - 07:40 AM, said:Only one of the twelve balls were under inflated. The rest were just a tick under 12.5 psi after being in freezing weather for five hours. Chris Mortensen is such a tool.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/new-report-says-only-one-patriots-football-was-seriously-deflated-165514858.html

Anyone thinking this wasn't fully intentional by the NFL and larger media networks are blind sheep imo.

Full blown reality TV and this thread is 130+ pages proving people are stupid enough to fall for anything.

"I got sucked in to full blown Housewives of Atlanta drama over football air pressure." - say that out loud to yourself.

I think you are completely right but from the Pats perspective it worked out well and if they get a slap on the wrist as well as the trophy who cares you know.

 

[Anarchy99]

ESPN still driving the cloud of suspicion angle on this pretty hard.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

And now it doesn't matter.

Collinsworth in the post game said more than once, "...well I hope the NFL doesn't find anything when it completes their investigation..." Can the NFL do anything at this point, or was Collinsworth just trolling? I lean the latter.

They could fine or take picks etc but does it really matter?

 

[fruity pebbles]

This controversy is almost as stupid as Seattles play call.

 

[Boston]

I'm gonna come clean...when Kearse made that catch I turned to my buddy and said they definitely cheated because this was the way the Football Gods were getting back at them...making it as painful as possible...Butler's play now makes it very obvious that there was no cheating because the Football Gods would never allow cheaters a moment of pure joy like that...

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

N.E. was awarded the Lombardi trophy, not a silver-plated asterick. The results are final.

 

[Bossman]

Only one of the twelve balls were under inflated. The rest were just a tick under 12.5 psi after being in freezing weather for five hours. Chris Mortensen is such a tool.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/new-report-says-only-one-patriots-football-was-seriously-deflated-165514858.html

Anyone thinking this wasn't fully intentional by the NFL and larger media networks are blind sheep imo.

Full blown reality TV and this thread is 130+ pages proving people are stupid enough to fall for anything.

"I got sucked in to full blown Housewives of Atlanta drama over football air pressure." - say that out loud to yourself.

The last line of this article says it all ....

"... But it would be nice to hear the facts the NFL has instead of relying on conflicting leaks of information."

Absolutely ridiculous the way the NFL has strung this out and left all of the media to speculate ... in the direction that serves there best interest.

(scandal = more viewers / ratings).

 

[Old Smiley]

And now it doesn't matter.

Collinsworth in the post game said more than once, "...well I hope the NFL doesn't find anything when it completes their investigation..." Can the NFL do anything at this point, or was Collinsworth just trolling? I lean the latter.

They could fine or take picks etc but does it really matter?

Not to me. Not after last night. So beautiful....

 

[General Tso]

I'm gonna come clean...when Kearse made that catch I turned to my buddy and said they definitely cheated because this was the way the Football Gods were getting back at them...making it as painful as possible...Butler's play now makes it very obvious that there was no cheating because the Football Gods would never allow cheaters a moment of pure joy like that...

Karma is a fickle #####. The Pats had a lot of it coming their way after the BS of the last few weeks.

 

[Old Smiley]

Brady's dad: "The drip, drip, drip way that things have come out," he said, referring to leaks during the investigation. "It's a conniving way to do business. ... There was no sting? B.S. They've never gauged footballs at halftime. He got screwed the past two weeks."

 

[az_prof]

N.E. was awarded the Lombardi trophy, not a silver-plated asterick. The results are final.

It will always be an asterick both for the AFC championship game and for their dynasty. If you want to root for cheaters, enjoy yourself. In my experience, cheaters usually cheat much more often than they are caught. NE has been caught twice now. The NFL doesn't want to punish them because then they look bad for permitting the cheating in the first place and all they care about is viewers and money. Most people are lemmings and don't care so the NFL will sweep this under the rug along with the deleted Bellicheat tapes.

 

[shader]

Screw the NFL. Horrible job of handling this, but they come out smelling like a rose again, because they are in charge of a fantastic product.

 

[johnnycakes]

N.E. was awarded the Lombardi trophy, not a silver-plated asterick. The results are final.

It will always be an asterick both for the AFC championship game and for their dynasty. If you want to root for cheaters, enjoy yourself. In my experience, cheaters usually cheat much more often than they are caught. NE has been caught twice now. The NFL doesn't want to punish them because then they look bad for permitting the cheating in the first place and all they care about is viewers and money. Most people are lemmings and don't care so the NFL will sweep this under the rug along with the deleted Bellicheat tapes.

Please be sure to read the latest conspiracy theory regarding that last play of the game. It makes more sense than your theory. http://m.thenation.com/blog/196697-conspiracy-theory-surrounding-seahawks-last-play

 

[General Tso]

Brady's dad: "The drip, drip, drip way that things have come out," he said, referring to leaks during the investigation. "It's a conniving way to do business. ... There was no sting? B.S. They've never gauged footballs at halftime. He got screwed the past two weeks."

Brady's sister was even more dramatic after the game. The family was very upset, and rightfully so.

 

[General Tso]

N.E. was awarded the Lombardi trophy, not a silver-plated asterick. The results are final.

It will always be an asterick both for the AFC championship game and for their dynasty. If you want to root for cheaters, enjoy yourself. In my experience, cheaters usually cheat much more often than they are caught. NE has been caught twice now. The NFL doesn't want to punish them because then they look bad for permitting the cheating in the first place and all they care about is viewers and money. Most people are lemmings and don't care so the NFL will sweep this under the rug along with the deleted Bellicheat tapes.

Oh please. Get a life dude. And a clue.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

N.E. was awarded the Lombardi trophy, not a silver-plated asterick. The results are final.

It will always be an asterick both for the AFC championship game and for their dynasty. If you want to root for cheaters, enjoy yourself. In my experience, cheaters usually cheat much more often than they are caught. NE has been caught twice now. The NFL doesn't want to punish them because then they look bad for permitting the cheating in the first place and all they care about is viewers and money. Most people are lemmings and don't care so the NFL will sweep this under the rug along with the deleted Bellicheat tapes.

I do not root for the Patriots. I do not like cheating, not of any stripe, and I do not condone it if it happens. I also, however, have not concluded that there was wrongdoing in the deflate-gate matter. I think much of the impetus for the investigation and surrounding side show was trying to even out past luck, team conduct, and the desire to give some obnoxious fans (not all, just some) a comeuppance. That's not what I am about.

 

[espnespn]

N.E. was awarded the Lombardi trophy, not a silver-plated asterick. The results are final.

It will always be an asterick both for the AFC championship game and for their dynasty. If you want to root for cheaters, enjoy yourself. In my experience, cheaters usually cheat much more often than they are caught. NE has been caught twice now. The NFL doesn't want to punish them because then they look bad for permitting the cheating in the first place and all they care about is viewers and money. Most people are lemmings and don't care so the NFL will sweep this under the rug along with the deleted Bellicheat tapes.

NE was punished 1x for Spygate. When were they caught again for cheating? The NFL cleared them of other cheating allegations like illegal formations vs. Baltimore. Only delusional, salty haters like you assume they deflated footballs, when basic science explains the deflation.

Btw, as a Viking fan, I hope you recognize your hypocrisy: Vikings were caught cheating on camera, by tampering with footballs this year.

http://espn.go.com/blog/minnesota-vikings/post/_/id/11218/nfl-aware-of-game-ball-incident-during-panthers-vikings

 

[mbuehner]

I missed the game, how many times did the Patriots fumble with regulation balls, 4? 5?

 

[BroadwayG]

So one ball was gronked and the other 11 were naturally a hair short of spec?

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

rappaport said one ball 2 lbs under, 3 or 4 a half pound under, and the rest just a tick under.

Now ask yourself: which is better, a uniform set of ball pressures or an assortment?

The clue bird is hovering nearby kids.

 

[mbuehner]

*the ball that was 2lbs under was the one the Colts had ahold of.

If we're going to apply the same scrutiny that the Patriots have been dealing with, shouldn't we demand to know from the Colts how its possible the ball in their possession they presented to the refs as evidence of cheating was over 1.5psi lower than all the other Patriots balls? Until they manage to conclusively explain that, I assume we all consider the Colts cheaters and this whole thing a frame up.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

I missed the game, how many times did the Patriots fumble with regulation balls, 4? 5?

Seattle appeared to be the ones worried about a fumble.

 

[Bossman]

Report: NFL Investigating If ATL Used Fake Crowd Noise

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2349940-falcons-crowd-noise-investigation-latest-details-possible-penalties-and-more?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=nfl

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Who cares ... unless it was the Patriots.

How many pages in the Shark Pool do you think this topic would generate?

If true, wouldn't false crowd noise be more of a competitive advantage than a "slightly" deflated football"?

Proves people in here are only hating on the Patriots out of jealousy.

 

[stbugs]

Only one of the twelve balls were under inflated. The rest were just a tick under 12.5 psi after being in freezing weather for five hours. Chris Mortensen is such a tool.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/new-report-says-only-one-patriots-football-was-seriously-deflated-165514858.html

Anyone thinking this wasn't fully intentional by the NFL and larger media networks are blind sheep imo.

Full blown reality TV and this thread is 130+ pages proving people are stupid enough to fall for anything.

"I got sucked in to full blown Housewives of Atlanta drama over football air pressure." - say that out loud to yourself.

The last line of this article says it all ....

"... But it would be nice to hear the facts the NFL has instead of relying on conflicting leaks of information."

Absolutely ridiculous the way the NFL has strung this out and left all of the media to speculate ... in the direction that serves there best interest.

(scandal = more viewers / ratings).

Duh, pretty much why ESPN is still jumping all over it. Nothing to talk about until the draft for football, so gotta keep the ratings going somehow. That is why early on, I didn't care what Bettis and Brunnell said, the more ratings they get, the better their next contract. There is no integrity in sports journalism anymore, it is all about being first and getting more eyeballs in social media.

 

[stbugs]

N.E. was awarded the Lombardi trophy, not a silver-plated asterick. The results are final.

It will always be an asterick both for the AFC championship game and for their dynasty. If you want to root for cheaters, enjoy yourself. In my experience, cheaters usually cheat much more often than they are caught. NE has been caught twice now. The NFL doesn't want to punish them because then they look bad for permitting the cheating in the first place and all they care about is viewers and money. Most people are lemmings and don't care so the NFL will sweep this under the rug along with the deleted Bellicheat tapes.

Oh please. Get a life dude. And a clue.

We talk about what the media is now (reality TV, trying to get ratings with made up scandals), but posts like that make you realize why they do it. There are enough stupid people out there that believe everything they are handed. Funny how he calls other people lemmings, but still believes all the speculation he was force fed. Sad commentary on today's society.

 

[ROCKET]

Somehow this thread seems meaningless after last night. I'm onto the next one.

 

[GoBirds]

rappaport said one ball 2 lbs under, 3 or 4 a half pound under, and the rest just a tick under.

Now ask yourself: which is better, a uniform set of ball pressures or an assortment?

The clue bird is hovering nearby kids.

If you are a QB, just because they allow 12 game balls, why would you use them all? Wouldn't you pick one you like and go with it? If you aren't playing well maybe try another....but all 12?

 

[GoBirds]

Report: NFL Investigating If ATL Used Fake Crowd Noise

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2349940-falcons-crowd-noise-investigation-latest-details-possible-penalties-and-more?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=nfl

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Who cares ... unless it was the Patriots.

How many pages in the Shark Pool do you think this topic would generate?

If true, wouldn't false crowd noise be more of a competitive advantage than a "slightly" deflated football"?

Proves people in here are only hating on the Patriots out of jealousy.

True, probably because they are so bad and even trying to get an unfair advantage they still don't compete. Similar to baseball and steroids.....they went after the bug names that were setting records, who cares about the guy struggling to stay in the majors.

 

[General Tso]

Report: NFL Investigating If ATL Used Fake Crowd Noise

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2349940-falcons-crowd-noise-investigation-latest-details-possible-penalties-and-more?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=nfl

Who cares ... unless it was the Patriots.

How many pages in the Shark Pool do you think this topic would generate?

If true, wouldn't false crowd noise be more of a competitive advantage than a "slightly" deflated football"?

Proves people in here are only hating on the Patriots out of jealousy.

How ironic that the other team accused of piping in crowd noise over the years is the Colts - in the 2006 AFC Championship Game against the Patriots! This whole cheating meme is just dripping with irony.

 

[HobbesAB]

Report: NFL Investigating If ATL Used Fake Crowd Noise

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2349940-falcons-crowd-noise-investigation-latest-details-possible-penalties-and-more?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=nfl

.

Who cares ... unless it was the Patriots.

How many pages in the Shark Pool do you think this topic would generate?

If true, wouldn't false crowd noise be more of a competitive advantage than a "slightly" deflated football"?

Proves people in here are only hating on the Patriots out of jealousy.

I wonder how long before it will come back around to the Patriots. Pioli is there and he helped instill the Falcons "culture of cheating" he learned while in NE.

 

[devouredbychaos]

N.E. was awarded the Lombardi trophy, not a silver-plated asterick. The results are final.

It will always be an asterick both for the AFC championship game and for their dynasty. If you want to root for cheaters, enjoy yourself. In my experience, cheaters usually cheat much more often than they are caught. NE has been caught twice now. The NFL doesn't want to punish them because then they look bad for permitting the cheating in the first place and all they care about is viewers and money. Most people are lemmings and don't care so the NFL will sweep this under the rug along with the deleted Bellicheat tapes.

Dat salt! Kiss the 4 RINGS #####!!!

 

[Road Warriors]

rappaport said one ball 2 lbs under, 3 or 4 a half pound under, and the rest just a tick under.

Now ask yourself: which is better, a uniform set of ball pressures or an assortment?

The clue bird is hovering nearby kids.

If you are a QB, just because they allow 12 game balls, why would you use them all? Wouldn't you pick one you like and go with it? If you aren't playing well maybe try another....but all 12?

You realize the ball boys hand the refs the balls to get put in play. The ball in play is rotating all the time. And in the AFC title game, the ball would be changed out even more frequently due to rain.

 

[GoBirds]

rappaport said one ball 2 lbs under, 3 or 4 a half pound under, and the rest just a tick under.

Now ask yourself: which is better, a uniform set of ball pressures or an assortment?

The clue bird is hovering nearby kids.

If you are a QB, just because they allow 12 game balls, why would you use them all? Wouldn't you pick one you like and go with it? If you aren't playing well maybe try another....but all 12?

You realize the ball boys hand the refs the balls to get put in play. The ball in play is rotating all the time. And in the AFC title game, the ball would be changed out even more frequently due to rain.

So you think all 12 really get used? How often do they rotate them and is there a rule for this or just up to the ball boy on each team?

 

[Old Smiley]

rappaport said one ball 2 lbs under, 3 or 4 a half pound under, and the rest just a tick under.

Now ask yourself: which is better, a uniform set of ball pressures or an assortment?

The clue bird is hovering nearby kids.

If you are a QB, just because they allow 12 game balls, why would you use them all? Wouldn't you pick one you like and go with it? If you aren't playing well maybe try another....but all 12?

You realize the ball boys hand the refs the balls to get put in play. The ball in play is rotating all the time. And in the AFC title game, the ball would be changed out even more frequently due to rain.

So you think all 12 really get used? How often do they rotate them and is there a rule for this or just up to the ball boy on each team?

You know, I'm so glad the Pats won for so many reasons, but one of them is definitely because I can read this and just think "I. don't. care." I don't even know what you said. I don't care.

 

[Road Warriors]

rappaport said one ball 2 lbs under, 3 or 4 a half pound under, and the rest just a tick under.

Now ask yourself: which is better, a uniform set of ball pressures or an assortment?

The clue bird is hovering nearby kids.

If you are a QB, just because they allow 12 game balls, why would you use them all? Wouldn't you pick one you like and go with it? If you aren't playing well maybe try another....but all 12?

You realize the ball boys hand the refs the balls to get put in play. The ball in play is rotating all the time. And in the AFC title game, the ball would be changed out even more frequently due to rain.

So you think all 12 really get used? How often do they rotate them and is there a rule for this or just up to the ball boy on each team?

I have no idea. A throw goes out of bounds, ball boy hands a ball to the side judge. Rainy game, they have a toweled off ball ready to go. I do know the QB doesn't get to go choose a ball. Maybe it's just time you just let this go.

 

[mbuehner]

rappaport said one ball 2 lbs under, 3 or 4 a half pound under, and the rest just a tick under.

Now ask yourself: which is better, a uniform set of ball pressures or an assortment?

The clue bird is hovering nearby kids.

If you are a QB, just because they allow 12 game balls, why would you use them all? Wouldn't you pick one you like and go with it? If you aren't playing well maybe try another....but all 12?

You realize the ball boys hand the refs the balls to get put in play. The ball in play is rotating all the time. And in the AFC title game, the ball would be changed out even more frequently due to rain.

So you think all 12 really get used? How often do they rotate them and is there a rule for this or just up to the ball boy on each team?

I have no idea. A throw goes out of bounds, ball boy hands a ball to the side judge. Rainy game, they have a toweled off ball ready to go. I do know the QB doesn't get to go choose a ball. Maybe it's just time you just let this go.

Seriously. Has this guy ever seen a football game, much less one in the rain? A better question is... why the hell would sneak into a mens room to only let the air out of one ball? And hope it doesnt end up in the crowd? This is just abject idiocy at this point.

 

[Raider Nation]

Wells should wrap up his exhaustive investigation shortly. Look for the Pats to forfeit a timeout in the first preseason game.

 

[GoBirds]

mbuehner, on 02 Feb 2015 - 11:53 PM, said:

Road Warriors, on 02 Feb 2015 - 8:53 PM, said:

GoBirds, on 02 Feb 2015 - 8:23 PM, said:

Road Warriors, on 02 Feb 2015 - 7:06 PM, said:

GoBirds, on 02 Feb 2015 - 1:24 PM, said:

SeniorVBDStudent, on 02 Feb 2015 - 12:44 PM, said:rappaport said one ball 2 lbs under, 3 or 4 a half pound under, and the rest just a tick under.

Now ask yourself: which is better, a uniform set of ball pressures or an assortment?

The clue bird is hovering nearby kids.

If you are a QB, just because they allow 12 game balls, why would you use them all? Wouldn't you pick one you like and go with it? If you aren't playing well maybe try another....but all 12?

You realize the ball boys hand the refs the balls to get put in play. The ball in play is rotating all the time. And in the AFC title game, the ball would be changed out even more frequently due to rain.

So you think all 12 really get used? How often do they rotate them and is there a rule for this or just up to the ball boy on each team?

I have no idea. A throw goes out of bounds, ball boy hands a ball to the side judge. Rainy game, they have a toweled off ball ready to go. I do know the QB doesn't get to go choose a ball. Maybe it's just time you just let this go.

Seriously. Has this guy ever seen a football game, much less one in the rain? A better question is... why the hell would sneak into a mens room to only let the air out of one ball? And hope it doesnt end up in the crowd? This is just abject idiocy at this point.

Obviously you don't have an objective opinion on this, I was just asking the question. At this point it doesn't really matter if the Pats were breaking rules again they won the big one so who cares. OH the NFL might take a 5th round pick and fine them $100k......anyone would take that for a Superbowl win. Just makes the NFL look clueless for the 10th time this year.

 

[matuski]

mbuehner, on 02 Feb 2015 - 11:53 PM, said:

Road Warriors, on 02 Feb 2015 - 8:53 PM, said:

GoBirds, on 02 Feb 2015 - 8:23 PM, said:

Road Warriors, on 02 Feb 2015 - 7:06 PM, said:

GoBirds, on 02 Feb 2015 - 1:24 PM, said:

SeniorVBDStudent, on 02 Feb 2015 - 12:44 PM, said:rappaport said one ball 2 lbs under, 3 or 4 a half pound under, and the rest just a tick under.

Now ask yourself: which is better, a uniform set of ball pressures or an assortment?

The clue bird is hovering nearby kids.

If you are a QB, just because they allow 12 game balls, why would you use them all? Wouldn't you pick one you like and go with it? If you aren't playing well maybe try another....but all 12?

You realize the ball boys hand the refs the balls to get put in play. The ball in play is rotating all the time. And in the AFC title game, the ball would be changed out even more frequently due to rain.

So you think all 12 really get used? How often do they rotate them and is there a rule for this or just up to the ball boy on each team?

I have no idea. A throw goes out of bounds, ball boy hands a ball to the side judge. Rainy game, they have a toweled off ball ready to go. I do know the QB doesn't get to go choose a ball. Maybe it's just time you just let this go.

Seriously. Has this guy ever seen a football game, much less one in the rain? A better question is... why the hell would sneak into a mens room to only let the air out of one ball? And hope it doesnt end up in the crowd? This is just abject idiocy at this point.

Obviously you don't have an objective opinion on this, I was just asking the question. At this point it doesn't really matter if the Pats were breaking rules again they won the big one so who cares. OH the NFL might take a 5th round pick and fine them $100k......anyone would take that for a Superbowl win. Just makes the NFL look clueless for the 10th time this year.

Objectively - show us an instance where you have seen a QB pick which ball is brought in each play.

You chose a poor angle to argue here, and you keep digging deeper.

 

[GoBirds]

mbuehner, on 02 Feb 2015 - 11:53 PM, said:

Road Warriors, on 02 Feb 2015 - 8:53 PM, said:

GoBirds, on 02 Feb 2015 - 8:23 PM, said:

Road Warriors, on 02 Feb 2015 - 7:06 PM, said:

GoBirds, on 02 Feb 2015 - 1:24 PM, said:

SeniorVBDStudent, on 02 Feb 2015 - 12:44 PM, said:

rappaport said one ball 2 lbs under, 3 or 4 a half pound under, and the rest just a tick under.

Now ask yourself: which is better, a uniform set of ball pressures or an assortment?

The clue bird is hovering nearby kids.

If you are a QB, just because they allow 12 game balls, why would you use them all? Wouldn't you pick one you like and go with it? If you aren't playing well maybe try another....but all 12?

You realize the ball boys hand the refs the balls to get put in play. The ball in play is rotating all the time. And in the AFC title game, the ball would be changed out even more frequently due to rain.

So you think all 12 really get used? How often do they rotate them and is there a rule for this or just up to the ball boy on each team?

I have no idea. A throw goes out of bounds, ball boy hands a ball to the side judge. Rainy game, they have a toweled off ball ready to go. I do know the QB doesn't get to go choose a ball. Maybe it's just time you just let this go.

Seriously. Has this guy ever seen a football game, much less one in the rain? A better question is... why the hell would sneak into a mens room to only let the air out of one ball? And hope it doesnt end up in the crowd? This is just abject idiocy at this point.

Obviously you don't have an objective opinion on this, I was just asking the question. At this point it doesn't really matter if the Pats were breaking rules again they won the big one so who cares. OH the NFL might take a 5th round pick and fine them $100k......anyone would take that for a Superbowl win. Just makes the NFL look clueless for the 10th time this year.

Objectively - show us an instance where you have seen a QB pick which ball is brought in each play.

You chose a poor angle to argue here, and you keep digging deeper.

I've never focused on the ballboy during a game that's why I was asking. My assumption would be a few get used but doubt all 12 are needed. Please confirm if you have know for fact what their process is.

 

[[icon]]

I'm assuming we've found that smoking gun by now right? Or are we donning the tinfoil hats and crying conspiracy/coverup again?

Just getting up to speed on what stage we're at.

 

[BroadwayG]

I'm assuming we've found that smoking gun by now right? Or are we donning the tinfoil hats and crying conspiracy/coverup again?

Just getting up to speed on what stage we're at.

We're at the stage where the media and general populace continue to cry foul even after all evidence points to the contrary.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Colts GM Ryan Grigson has been revealed as the league's source in the "Deflategate" scandal.

According to NFL executive Troy Vincent, Grigson brought the issue to the league's attention "some time during the second quarter" of the AFC Championship Game. The balls, as you've probably heard by now, were then inspected at halftime. The NFL's investigation into the apparent scandal of the century remains ongoing.

So it doesn't seem like it was a sting operation.

 

[Old Smiley]

"According to NFL executive Troy Vincent,..."

OMG WTF!!1 A named source!!!